Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another CHBMP space. Please give us a few minutes to get situated, and we will get started. Lisa, you should have a cohost invite. Please look for that. Jenny, you should also have a cohost invite. Please try to accept that. It can be a little buggy if you don't see it or can't accept it. Let me know. Cece, Gail, and Andy are all traveling today. Gail and Andy went to, an event in Oklahoma. So, Jenny and Lisa will be co hosting with me tonight. Hey, Jenny and Lisa. How are you doing? Speaker 2: Great. How are you doing? Speaker 1: Really good. Good to see you. Same here. Same here. Speaker 3: Good evening, guys. Glad to be here. Speaker 1: Absolutely. Glad you could come on and help cohost. I really appreciate it. Speaker 2: No problem. No problem. They're busy. They're busy. I I think they were in the, Oklahoma today. Right? They were Speaker 1: Yeah. Protesting at the State Capitol Building. I I'm hoping, one of them is gonna be able to come on and give us an update about that tonight. I'm not sure. They're all traveling and probably, you know, meeting other victims and busy, but, I'm hoping they'll drop by and and keep us up to date on what they're doing. Have you heard anything about it? Speaker 2: I have not. I've been looking all day because I know there was a lot of, big speakers that were gonna be there. I saw Dustin was posting about it, but I have not specifically seen video or anything as of yet. Just just that one post. I've I was looking on Mick Meows that can start to continue to to see, and I haven't seen anything as of yet. Speaker 3: Me too. I've been looking on Facebook and Twitter, hoping to see something on there. And like you, Lisa, I've seen Dustin post a couple of things. I see doctor, doctor Bowden, Mary Bowden posted something on there on her Twitter earlier. And then Harry, the EMT, guy, I've I saw him post something on Twitter earlier today as well. So I am hoping that one of them will be able to hop on later on this evening and give us an update and let us know how everything went because I am excited to hear how everything went today. Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's a a huge huge, option for everybody to be there. It's just a a nice big event for them to say what they need to say and bring more light to what's going on. So that's another big blessing. Speaker 3: Absolutely. And I I do know that Gail did, tell us earlier this evening that she did meet some of our Twitter listeners. So that right there was amazing. I'm stealing your word, Lisa. I'm learning. I'm learning. I really thought that that was just amazing to to know that we did have some Twitter followers and listeners show up in Oklahoma today, so I'm excited about that. Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think that's amazing too. You know, that's that's the whole point of this, right, is to have outreach to where we can connect with others who maybe don't know what exactly happened or or where or, need support. And that's the whole point is just to bring recognition to it so Absolutely. They don't feel alone. Right? And so it's gonna bring more attention, and it's gonna actually reach others. So and I it's just like you I second what you said. It's amazing when we see movement happen and, you know, unfortunately, we we find new people with the same circumstances, but, you know Speaker 3: Yes. I agree. It you know, the things that we are doing is to, you know, help raise awareness and and just let people know that, you know, who have fallen victim to either, losing a loved one due to the hospital protocol or even those who were, injured because of the COVID vaccine that they are It didn't just happen to them. They are not alone. There are so many of us who, are have fallen victims to to this. So I'm so glad that we were able to put together this event in Oklahoma, and I look forward to all the other events and rallies that we will put together in the future and hope that we can, you know, all just come together and and be an advocate, be the voice for those who are no longer with us so that we can share their stories, and and, you know, again, raise awareness and just let people know that this this is happening. It's still happening today, and it needs to stop. Speaker 1: Exactly. And it's really it's it's one thing to to talk online and to to have our meetings. We have almost daily meetings and to to know everybody online, but when when you go to one of these in person protests or rallies or or movements, like, it is it is so amazing and heartening to to actually connect with the people you've been you've been talking to and get to know the people behind the the username and the avatar. It it's really amazing. Speaker 3: I agree, and I hope and look forward to meeting people in person versus just, you know, meeting them here in our, space tonight. So Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm looking forward to this event. I think it's gonna be happening in May in Texas that we're gonna be having. That's gonna be really exciting. Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. June 1 is when well, there's gonna be a mixer the night before, so May 31. And, the location that was found is is beautiful. It's pretty large. And what I found actually pretty amazing was that they actually, have funded or have given funding to the holocaust as well. So, they're they're very supportive of our organization and why we're there, which is, you know, a nice plus to have somebody on the same team, you know, bringing light to the situation. So Speaker 3: I think finding that that venue is not a coincidence. Speaker 2: Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. It was starting to become a little bit of a challenge. We'd we'd reached out to many people and and followed up, but, you know, it just depends, you know, availability and stuff. So, and being the summer, a lot of people's kids are in school and stuff, so it was being a little bit of challenge. But we didn't quit, and I believe the right one was chosen. So, you know, I'm excited. It's gonna be great. You were talking about earlier about getting to meet people in person and how amazing that is, and I just wanted to speak a little bit about that when, I met with some of the people on our group at the Children's Health Defense bus because they're going around and they are, interviewing victims and survivors and, vaccine injured, you know, like, all over The United States. So that was one of the most heartfelt things as well as you know, it's just like you were saying earlier. You know, seeing people on the Monday night calls and other interactions and hearing their voice, it's completely different when you meet them in person. And then I I had the privilege of being able to tell my husband's story on the bus, and that in itself is such a tribute to everybody who has lost a loved one or passed away or is injured. And just seeing that, Yeah. I've seen pictures of it, but when you actually see it in person, it is completely different, and it's very emotional. Speaker 1: For those who don't know, could you could you elaborate on the CHD bus and what they're doing? Speaker 2: Sure. The Children's Health Defense bus, it's a bus that's going around. They do have a website. They're they've been to Texas twice, I believe, now, but they go to many states. They when I talked to the cohost, Pauley, she said they had been to 18 states. So, what they're doing is they're documenting stories of people who were vaccine injured or who got the hospital protocol, you know, may have lost a loved one, and they're going around and documenting their stories. In addition to that, they're they're selling books and stuff with information. And when they do the interviews and, again, I was one of the one who was, got to do an interview. They they stream it live, so not only do the people that, follow Children's Health Defense get to see it live, it's also archived on their on their, website for later use. So, again, it's another form of awareness and reaching out to other people. And it's it's just amazing how involved they are and how much of an audience they have to reach other people who may have not heard of our organization. And, what's what I found very emotional is that the bus you know, walking around the bus, you see all these numbers and names. Right? And then it sets in that these are all the people that have been injured, and this is their actual second bus. So the first one, they had to retire it. So this is her second bus, and, my husband's number was 996 on the bus. So that just that just it's so impactful when you write that. And, Paulie and her her cohorts and her driver and all the people with her organization, they're very polite, very kind, very considerate. And, on the inside of the bus, they actually take up tape up pictures of lost loved ones. So, again, you know, seeing names on the outside of the bus, but when you step in and you see face after face after face, and that's what got me, is that I know those people. I've you know, I know their fam I don't know them personally, but I know their family. I've heard their stories being told. You know, I've seen the devastation and the tragedy and the impact of all that has has happened due to their losses. And, that just puts a whole another level of emotion and sadness. But then again, it just demonstrates, you know, that their family wants their story to be told. They they're hoping that it's gonna reach somebody else, educate somebody else, make somebody else aware, and, you know, let people know about medical freedoms and options and and all of those things, you know, for educational purposes. So that is Speaker 3: Yeah. And it and it connects it connects people. I mean, you know, you were there with me, Lisa, you know, to show support for those of us who were going to go on the CHD bus, in my area to share our stories of, you know, of me losing my mom from the hospital protocol. And, you know, we we met a young lady that that day, who lost her mom the same day that I lost my mom at the same hospital. So, you know, it that bus also connects people and, you know, we were able to share our information, and our contact information, and now she is, you know, a part of our CHBMP group. And so I I applaud Polly and everyone on the the CHD bus for traveling, you know, throughout The US and documenting our stories, as you say, raising awareness, but also making a connection for for us. Speaker 2: And you can just see the passion that they all have and making awareness to everything that's happened. You can just see their heart through all of it. Absolutely. I greatly applaud them for that because, you know, even though people are sharing such tragic stories, you know, I guess there's a little sense of family, unspoken family a little bit by how they approach with, taking your interviews and such. Speaker 3: Yes. And it and they get very emotional as well. You know, I have my sister and a good friend of mine who came on the bus with me to share my mom's story. And, you know, towards the very end, I got emotional, and I just started crying. My sister was crying, and I looked over and one of Polly's, you know, crew members was just she had to turn around and she was just balling with us. So it's it's also very emotional for them, and I know that they've heard so many stories, but I feel like they are so involved, and they feel our emotions. They connect with us, and, you know, so it yeah. They're they're very passionate about what they do. Very passionate. Speaker 1: Sherry Martin pinned she posted your, your vaxxed, unvaxxed bus story in the purple pill, and I have pinned that to the nest. So anyone who hasn't seen that should check that out. We kind of jumped right into it. Now that we have a good few people here, Lisa, do you wanna go over the the rules and we'll get started? I mean, we're already started, but go over that so people know how to press the mic to request to speak and all that. Thank you so much. No problem. Speaker 2: Okay. Bear with me. It's loading on my computer here. Okay. 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It's just really a casual conversation to give a platform for the victims to speak out about what's happened to you. So if you have anything to say, please tap that mic, and, and we'd love to hear what you have to say. We do have a couple people in the queue, coerced nurse and Miriam. Go ahead whenever you're ready. Speaker 4: Wasn't sure who you wanted to go first. Speaker 1: If you're if you're ready to speak, go right ahead, Miriam. Thank you. Speaker 4: Okay. I'll give it a shot. I usually roll into the conversation and try to fit with what's going, but I'll just take off with it here. I'm probably gonna put a couple of things into the chat. I usually talk about, what I've written about recently and what's going on. The things that I have from today, I'm trying to get it pulled up here. Sorry, guys. I didn't expect to, quite get here. Hang on. I do have a couple of things I do want to post. One of them is, I have, recent article I just did today about, the reason why you shouldn't trust the the the pseudoscience. Basically, it's going to basically show, reveal what doctors were taught about in their medical training about vaccines in medical school, which is essentially nothing. They get an hours course that basically tells them that there's a vaccine schedule, that it's safe. Give it to your patients. And there's a video in there with real live docs basically stating this fact. So it's a really interesting article, and, basically, I added in there in case anybody hasn't seen it in the or inside the article. I don't know if anybody's aware, but, Blue Cross Blue Shield, had a policy during the peak of the vaccine push in late twenty twenty one into 2022 that nobody knew about until somebody got ahold of an internal document, basically documenting how much docs would get paid if they got certain percentages of their patient population COVID vaccinated. One example is, like, if they get seventy five percent of their their anthem members of their patient population, and some Blue Cross Blue Shield vaccinated, it's $250 bonus per newly vaccinated member at that point. So, you know, if they had even a 100 members that they got vaccinated or patient members of Blue Cross Blue Shield, that would be a $25,000 bonus for them. So a lot of people, you know, would say, well, why, you know, why why would doctors push it? Why would they, you know, be so gung ho about it if if they knew anything about what was happening? And that's why there is a big financial incentive. So the big problem was they were incentivized. The second problem was that they they don't know anything about vaccines. And even some of the doctors in the video that is included in the thing that I'm going to include in the chat would we're literally saying, hey. And we don't do our own research. So, and if you remember, there's also several things of I think one was Jimmy Kimmel saying, don't do your own research. The doctors know. You don't need to do your own research. This so, basically, what we were being told was they're safe and effective because the doctors say so, but the doctors don't know. So, isn't that interesting? And then the other part of it is, I'm sure you may have seen this. I think it was even Mary Talley Bowden, doctor Bowden, event I went to pulled out an actual insert and showed the blank insert. All of the inserts in the COVID vaccines were literally left intentionally blank. So, anyway, that was one thing that I addressed today, with a sub stack, and I'll put that in there for anybody to see and share that they would like. The second thing is and I'm sorry. I'm having to find it. I'm not as prepared as I would like to be here. The second thing I want to include is, there is a post that I'm gonna put in that has some critical information for everyone since we know that they are, pushing for more vaccines to address the coming supposed disease x. There's a doctor who joined one of our recent spaces. It may have been the last one that we had last week, doctor Margaret Aranda. She actually has some great articles on her substat for ways to actually make your own, hydroxychloroquine, believe it or not. And she also has where you can make things that act the same as ivermectin. There's a she's got several nice articles that I'm gonna post. And, that's all I have. Thank you, guys. Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Appreciate the information. Speaker 6: Hi, guys. I'm not gonna have much to say. I just can't breathe today. I just wanted come up and tell you. I'm thinking about you. I love you. I'm gonna listen now tonight, but I appreciate you. I love you. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm so, so sorry for all you're going through, and I hope you know we're all we're all in your corner. We're all rooting for you, and I'm I'm really grateful you came on to say hi. Speaker 6: Hi. Yeah. Oh, I so feel the love, and I appreciate it. And I adore you guys too. We're all been so affected, and it's so important to stay together. Speaker 1: Thank you. For those who don't know, the coerced nurse was, as her screen name indicates, she was coerced to take the experimental injections, and you can hear in her voice what it's done to her. And if that doesn't just break your heart Laives, go ahead. Speaker 8: It is, but thank you. I just wanted to come on here and share my own personal experience. I believe I was, COVID jab injured. I cannot prove it, like, probably millions of other people. But I got the first Moderna jab in March '21. I got the second one in April '21. I've not gotten any other booster since then. But about eleven months after my second jab, I developed a very serious, horrible rash over my whole body from my neck down to my ankles, down to my wrists. It blistered like bad sunburns blister and peeled and everything else just like if you had a bad sunburn. I went to my doctor, and my doctor said, oh, it's it's an allergy to a medication you're taking. Well, I'm like, well, I've been taking this medication for two years. And all of a sudden, now I'm having an allergic reaction to it? What what the hell? And, anyway, I could never prove that that's what it was. But since then, I found and and seen, you know, studies or reports about what it's doing to people's immune systems. And I've also seen that others have developed the same rash. In fact, at the same time I developed it, an acquaintance of mine, he's about 10 year I was 59 at the time. He was around late sixties, early seventies. But he had gotten the jab at the same time I did, and he developed the same rash at the same time I did. And then I'm like I said, I'm seeing things all around the Internet, and I've seen pictures of it. And I'm like, that's that's exactly what I had. So it to me, it's the amount of injuries. Now after I changed medications, it went away after about four or five weeks, thankfully. But what made me allergic to that medication all of a sudden? So it's injuries that are happening not just within four hours or a day or a week afterwards. It's it's way even sometimes way after that that we have to be cognizant of. And I just wanna tell my story, and I'll land it there. Thank you. Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on. I don't know have you ever heard of there's a how bad is my batch? I know that there's a place where you can put, the batch of the vaccine that you received, and it will Speaker 8: I can post that. I have it in my, records. I can post how bad is my batch for him. Thank you very much. You know what? I have seen that. I've seen and I saw that quite some time ago, and my batch was a bad batch. Speaker 2: Okay. Because I know I know for some who have endured, that they were looking on there, and it would kinda give commonalities for lack of another word. But it would share with you what other people may have experienced from that vaccine, and so Speaker 8: that would maybe be a good resource for you. I need to go back and look at I need to go back and look at that. I think I looked at that when that probably first came out, and it was just saying, you know, this particular batch could be bad or that batch wasn't so bad. You know, that that kind of thing. It didn't give any other information. So I will go back and look at that. Thank you. Yes, sir. Maybe that'll help you out some. Speaker 2: Jojo, I believe you're next. Hi. Speaker 11: Thanks so much for having me. I'm hoping to get your opinion on something. I went to my daughter's first, she's an adult, her first, gynecological appointment. And while we were waiting for the doctor to come in, I noticed there was a poster pushing the vaccine to pregnant women and talking about how safe it was. And my daughter was furious. I was furious. We're not vaccinated. And, the doctor came in and I stood up and I was putting my coat on and she said, are you cold? And I said, no. We're leaving. And I pointed to the the the poster, and I said, this is a lie. This is not safe, and it's not and it's not effective. And and I I said, you know, my niece's son was born with birth defects. You know, an 11 year boy who's paralyzed. And I just kept going on about the people that I know that are vaxx injured and people that have had miscarriages, and she never defended it. She would say after each time I told her I think I went through six examples. She would say, oh, that's terrible. And she never defended it. And even in the end, when I said to her, I will pray for your soul, because, you know, I think it's murder that they're giving these people, pregnant women, you know, the vaccine. I mean, when I was pregnant, I couldn't eat I mean, I didn't even eat chocolate because there was caffeine in it. You know? And I wouldn't never mind saying, oh, yeah. Give me this shot. So even when I left, we let you know, I kept trying I was waiting for a fight because every time I try to talk to a doctor, they they argue with me. She didn't argue at all. She was even when we were leaving, she was very, very pleasant. To me, that indicates she knows. I'm wondering if the poster is up because it has to be up and that she's not really pushing it on people pregnant people. And I'm just wondering what you guys think of that. Like, if you think is is that what I experienced, or do you think something else was going on? Speaker 2: I I would like to chime in on that, Jojo. I know that there's a doctor on Twitter, doctor Thorpe. He's a, gynecologist as well. He's done many, many births and stuff, and he's speaking about that as well about how he he personally, from his perspective, he doesn't support that with, pregnancy and the impact that it's had and, you know, deliveries and, you know, smaller births or unusual things with the, the baby and and and challenges along the way. So I know he's spoken about it before. He's one of one one of a a few that I've read about. So if I would say if if, you know, personally, I I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't support it. I don't recommend it, from my perspective. And I think for you for you to stand up for what you believe in because you don't support it and walk out, you know, I I feel that you're doing the right what's in the best interest for your family and for your daughter. So, there's actually a movie too, called shot dead with doctor Thorpe that's out. I I think it's on Twitter too, but, Heidi, you wanna chime in on that? You can jump in if you'd like. Speaker 12: Hear me? Yes, ma'am. Yes. Doctor Thorpe and Michelle Gershman, have been featured in the movie Shot Dead. I highly recommend, you know, that that she watches that movie and it'll explain a lot. But, yes, there is a skyrocketing number of babies being born dead due to the COVID vaccine. And the OB GYNs are getting paid money to push the vaccine on pregnant women, which is outrageous because, two years ago, you couldn't even, have a glass of wine, but now they're gonna be pushing experimental gene therapy death jab to pregnant women. It just makes no sense. Speaker 2: Additionally, I know Mary, Talon Boden, she is pushing on Twitter as well. She is firmly interacting with people for, the elections, and she's and she's reaching out to different individuals who are supporting the removal of the COVID vaccine. So I think the last I saw her tally of, removing or people that are supporting the removal of the vaccine, I think it was over a 115 candidates or something. And it's in all over different states because she too supports, you know, the the removal of the vaccine as well. So, I don't know specifically what state you're in, Jojo, but that may help you decide, you know, when you express your voting rights, you know, who you may wanna support or not support, you know, that would would be possibly a tool for you to look at as well. Speaker 4: If I may just interject, if anybody's, wanting to read about doctor James Thorpe, I posted an article in the chat just now. Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Speaker 1: I will pin that to the nest. I also pinned, an article that Brianna wrote about Michelle Gershman's experience. So, check that out in the nest. Yeah. There is no one in the queue, so if anyone just wants to speak off the cuff, go ahead. Speaker 12: Yeah. Michelle Gershman, she's a national hero. She's the Speaker 1: Oh, you cut out after national hero. I can't hear you. That happens sometimes. Spaces is kind of buggy. You might have to leave and come back again. I'm here too, Chelsea. Can you hear me? Yeah. I do. Can you, speak about that article I just mentioned that is pinned there? Speaker 5: Hi. I can try. I can tell anybody who hasn't read it how horrifying some of the things that Michelle talks about. The changes in the placentas, they're normally glossy and transparent. And in vaccinated moms, the placentas are now bluish gray and kind of dry looking and not real pliable. Babies are underweight. They have those are the ones that survive. There is a huge amount of reports, and here's where this gets even more frightening, is that hospitals, nurses are being coerced, and I'm sorry, I'm hitting on coerced nurse on that one, but they're being threatened actually not to discuss the the losses that they're seeing, as far as the fetal demise. And, they're just it it's like they're not allowed to write anything up so that anybody can see it. They're not allowed to talk about it. And the they're we really are going through a lower birth rate right now due to what? What's changed in the last two years? So there's been a lot of miscarriages, babies not being carried full to term. None of us know what the end result will be from the babies that are born. How long does the mRNA products stay within the the late the the mother's body or does the father pass something along if the mother's not vaccinated? We don't know what the genetics will be from now on. For those families that are trying to work through their health problems as far as, birth and obstetrics, We don't know what's going to end up happening as far as the health of the children, what will be passed on. It's almost like we're going through thalidomide all over again. Speaker 1: I hope I hope we're not. That is just the worst case scenario, isn't it? But Speaker 5: But I mean, we're we're living in the unknown. We don't know. We have no idea. And they didn't really test it on pregnant women. They just said it was safe. Speaker 1: And And the the fear Florida surgeon general has said everyone should stop getting it because there are safety concerns regarding the discovery of billions of DNA fragments found per dose. That's per injection, billions of like random DNA fragments. And that's not even, you know, factoring in the the switch case glitch or whatever it is that's Frameshift. Frame shift glitch that is causing causing the body to just pump out random proteins. Yeah. Random gibberish proteins, and nobody knows what the impact of that will be. And the CDC recommended that pregnant women go get this and said they said explicitly, you don't need to talk to your doctor before you get your COVID vaccine if you're pregnant because experts say it's probably safe. That was their actual advice. Speaker 5: Adam may be able to clarify this a little bit if I get this wrong, but my understanding is that there has always been a potential for some DNA in pretty much anything. But when it's on any other previous vaccine, the body would have a way of dealing with it. It would just find this random piece of garbage in the body and go, you're out of here. But because this DNA is encapsulated in the liquid nanoparticles, that actually gives it the, kind of the doorman into the cells so that DNA actually enters the cells now where it never could do that before. Now if I'm wrong, he's probably got a better example of that. But that's the way I understand it, that because the delivery method of the mRNA is the liquid nanoparticle, it's kind of, you know, the little greasy ball, and it just takes everything right into the cell. And now this DNA that is not supposed to be there, because of the way they manufactured it, being that apparently when the FDA approved it, approved the whole mRNA platform for this vaccine, they were using a different, growing method. And when the approval came through, they suddenly had to ramp things up even more, and they switched to an E. Coli base to grow the mRNA faster, or the whatever the protein is, to grow it faster. And then they couldn't clean it all out. That's where the DNA is coming from. It's coming from these plasmids that are still mixed in because you can't really, like, bathe them good enough to get all the particles off like a muddy dog. Speaker 1: And that's And the the DNA is actually mixing with the RNA. So it's just Mhmm. It's a mess. Yep. Yeah. He said you're you're basically spot on it. He's it's lipid nanoparticles. But but, yeah, you're right. Sunny and then Heidi and then Cheryl. Go ahead. Speaker 9: Oh, hi. Thanks for letting me, speak. I just dropped a, a little, information in the, pill. Just recently did a foyer and, from the VA. Actually got a little intel from some folks in the military accountability and just did this foyer real quick. They said, hey. Look. Check out, the the VA database for hospitalizations just in general within six months of the COVID nineteen shots for the veterans. Right? Comes out, get the foyer back. It's, like, close to 400,000. Obviously, that's not anything conclusive, but, you know, it's enough to, like, push them for a, for a transparent review. Obviously, four hundred thousand veterans, you know, having to be hospitalized within six months of, COVID nineteen shots. Kind of significant, you know, and needs to be looked into. Just wanted to point that out to everybody. Just kinda, like, you know, spread that around, please. And, just talking about the, you know, I remember my wife, when she was pregnant, and, her nurse, you know, when she came back for her appointments, it was, like, right during the COVID nineteen pandemic. And I remember her coming back. And every time, it was, you know, her being pressured to take the vaccine and her me talking to her saying, hey. Like, you know, let's wait. Let's hold on. And, they keep they were increasingly pressure every time. And I remember one day she came back, she said my, my nurse or whatever, told me that, she would take the vaccine, and the the shot in eyeball rather than not take it while she was pregnant. Yeah. Just an interesting story. But, anyway, I'll I'll go on with it. Speaker 1: In the eyeball, that is one I haven't heard before. I'm afraid you you kinda broke off after that, Sunny. Speaker 9: Yeah. Sorry about that. I was just saying that was a kinda just a shocking, level of coercion that was going on. You know? I forget who her provider was, but, you know, Chapel Hill, North Carolina. But, anyway, it was it was just pretty pretty intense, the level that they, pushed, you know, pregnant women to take these shots, you know, that were completely unproven and and and, you know, subjecting them to so much risk, and we're just so glad we didn't do it. But, I I just wanted to that always will ring in my mind. I always remember her coming back and telling me, hey. My nurse just told me that that, you know, I should take it, and she would take it in the eyeball if she had to to take it. And I was like, well, that's that's not coercive or anything. But, anyway, I'll just wanted to bring that up. Wow. Speaker 2: I wanted I wanted to chime in on that a little bit because what Sunny just said brought something up to me. I know the children's health defense, they talk about all the vaccines and the schedules and how over the years, the number of vaccines for children haven't has increased so much. But with that, challenges have become more and more apparent like, you know, ADHD, ODD, you know, autism. So I I I find that pretty enlightening that they're trying to also show data on that that says, you know, with the progressive changes, they've seen health challenges too with children. So if you're maybe wanting to see more about that, go to, Children's Health Defense because I know they have information on that there too. Speaker 12: Yes. Can you hear me now? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Yes. So circling back, you know, to the OBGYNs pressuring, you know, these young innocent mothers to take the COVID vaccine, there there was an email that went out in, the community hospital system here locally that Michelle Gershman exposed. And normally, there would be, statistically speaking, one, baby born dead by natural causes. But after the vaccine was rolled out, they had, like, twenty in one month, and that number has not, slowed down. So I think, you know, the nurses and doctors who are witnessing this crime against humanity need to speak up and and tell the world what they're witnessing. So the OBGYNs don't push this deadly vaccine anymore on these innocent mothers. Speaker 1: Absolutely. I couldn't agree with that more. Speaker 6: Yeah. Speaker 12: The birth rate is down two million this year, and, you know, the number's not, you know, slowing down anytime soon. We need to realize that this is, you know, a bioweapon, you know, created to, you know, cause harm and to pull it off the market completely. Speaker 1: Yep. Heidi, Cheryl, and then Tracy. Go ahead. Speaker 12: Heidi, are you there? Yes. I'm here. Can you can you hear still hear me? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Did you want to switch subjects a little bit and talk about the hospital COVID protocols, or did you want me to stay on the subject, you know, of the the experimental gene therapy that that job that they're pushing on these innocent pregnant mothers? Speaker 1: It it's all related. I I think speak to what you know. And if you wanna toggle to protocols because we have been talking a lot about vaxx injury, I think it's important to remember that it's all related. The vaxx injury, the protocols, the mandates, these are all intertwined. So, go ahead. Speaker 12: Yeah. Yes. It is. So yes. So my best friend, Lupe Espinosa, was murdered in Clovis Community Hospital in Clovis, California. She was tortured for fifty seven days, which she fought for her life while her young son watched from outside a hospital window. They gave her toxic and deadly drugs such as remdesivir, varsenidib, metazolam, high levels of morphine and fentanyl for months for over a month period of time continuously. It was so bad that her eyes were bleeding. COVID does not make your eyes bleed, but the toxic drugs that they have meant that the HHS, CDC, FDA, NIH, these guidelines that have been been created, the hospital COVID protocol, These alphabet agencies are pushing it to the hospital administrators who were pushing it to the doctors. And I have a friend who vents people at Clovis Community. She said in the beginning of the pandemic that they were using hydroxychloroquine, and fourteen out of sixteen people survived the vent. Once remdesivir was mandated to be used and hydroxychloroquine was banned, People were dying in mass, and that is continuing to happen today because the hospital COVID protocol has not changed. So I think the doctors and nurses really need to speak out and share what they have been witnessing because it will save so many lives. And for anybody out there who thinks they are immune to this, we all are one car accident away from ending up in a hospital. Just a month ago, one of my really good friends had a father who fell and one of his neighbors talked him into riding the ambulance in, you know, to the hospital, same hospital that murdered Lupe. Upon arrival, he was feeling better, and he wanted to leave. They 51 fiftied him, tied him down, hooked him up to remdesivir. By the time his family found out, it was in the evening, he received one dose, and they got a lawyer involved, and they were able to get him out within twenty four hours. That is, you know, best case scenario because most people, number one, do not know that our hospitals have, you know, turned into the moderate concentration camps. And, you know, we we just have to really get the word out and be be because our only option at this point because we've called police, we've called sheriff, we've called local DAs. Nobody is going to do anything. We're two years in. So the only form of saving lives that just the everyday citizen could do at this point is just to spread awareness, tell the stories, share what you've been witnessing, and, just, yeah, spread the word and help others, you know, understand that there's currently a hospital holocaust throughout the entire United States Of America. Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't have said it better. Thank you so much. Cheryl, go ahead, and then Tracy. Speaker 13: Good evening, everyone. I just wanted to to touch on I I I mean, I've been on here every week talking about my sister-in-law. She wasn't vaccine injured. She actually got turbo cancer and died, and I've been on here talking about my husband being medically murdered by remdesivir in the hospital. But I just wanted to touch on, you know, money is the root of all evil, my dad used to tell me, and that's exactly what's going on here besides depopulation and sterilization. So, my son and his fiance, they have three boys and a girl. My three grandsons from the vaccines that they've children's vaccines that they have received, all three of them are autistic. Both Zach and Braden are nonverbal autistic, and Max is actually the flip side. I believe they call it Asperger's. So he's a highly functional autistic child. My granddaughter, absolutely nothing wrong with her. She's completely normal. So I don't know if those vaccines have something to do with the male genes and not the female genes. Anyway, long story short, a a friend of mine, her two children received, COVID vaccines, two of them. Her son ended up getting noncancerous testicular tumors, And then her daughter, on the on the other side, she had received after receiving her vaccine, she was having heart palpitations. She's constantly getting UTIs. She's right now needing prayer. She's in the hospital. Her she was in kidney failure. Both of her kidneys were failing. She's gained a a lot of weight from, I believe it's part of the side effect from these vaccines. But, you know, when you have a government that don't care about the people, and then you see what happens when, you know, these what I mean, these vaccines, what are they doing to these babies that these pregnant women are taking? Or is it going to cause them to be sterile so they won't be able to have children? I mean, I'm concerned too. My daughter didn't discuss with me, but she ended up getting two of the vaccines. She didn't get any boosters, but I'm concerned that, you know, is has she become sterilized also, because I believe that that's the end game here. That's you know, it's depopulation, whether they're killing us in hospitals or they're sterilizing us so we can't have children anymore. You know, every day, it's just, a battle, and I every day, I I pray to God that something will change. And, you know, the cards will flip, and somebody's gonna listen to us. And but in the meantime, we have to keep getting this information out, stop people from going to hospitals, find, holistic doctors to take care of us instead of, the physicians that only give a shit about a paycheck, you know, about getting their kickbacks. You know, I I talk to people all the time. Oh, well, you know what? You're just a conspiracy theorist. Okay. Well, I'm done with you. I'm not gonna try to save you if you think I'm crazy because I'm not crazy. This happened to my husband. It happened to my grandchildren, and this this happened to my sister-in-law. And I'm not crazy. I was there. I seen it. I I, you know, I always just say, we have to save the people that want to be saved, to the people that want to listen, and keep that armor of God on every day. Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's all we can do. Tell everyone you meet. Tell them what's going on if they don't know, and and keep keep doing that. And people eventually will reach a critical mass, and everyone will know. And I think I mean, everyone I see knows, so I think we're succeeding in that. Tracy and then Nooni. Go ahead. Speaker 15: Hi, Chelsea. Hello, everyone. I just had a quick comment, about the conversation about the COVID shots for the pregnant women, how they were saying that, you know, don't even ask your your OB GYN. Don't ask your GP. Just get it. No big deal. It's probably safe. And I find that to be, like, the most egregious thing in the world when not long ago, the three letter organizations, probably the FDA, I don't remember who it was in addition, came out with this study and telling women not to take Tylenol during pregnancy. And if you took Tylenol, you could enter a class action lawsuit for possible damages. And this is a drug that's, you know, obviously been used, for a long time, and, they obviously didn't study the effect on the fetus. But the fact that they're taking, an experimental gene therapy shot and recommending it across the board for pregnant women, and it hasn't been studied it was studied on eight mice. No humans. No humans. Not one. And, also, it was a it's a vaccine, as we all know, that was developed during the initial infection Speaker 16: of the population, Speaker 15: which has never been done. Typically, a vaccine is developed after. So it's just the craziest thing. Like, when you look at it in perspective that Speaker 6: they could, without reserve, Speaker 15: recommend this to pregnant women. I I I I will never forgive them for that. And any baby who has been damaged or or lost as a result, they have blood on their hands. They do. Speaker 1: It's the saddest thing, and it's it's been just flabbergasting to me from the very beginning. And you you saw a campaign rollout along with the the shots that that was protect pregnant women with science, not from science. And that just floored me. They're, you know, they're they're shifting the whole paradigm to where, you know, pregnant women can be experimented on. And by the way, Nuremberg conventions don't apply because you don't really need informed consent if our experts say it's mostly safe and effective. You know, what? All of this is it's just so bizarre. So yeah. Absolutely, Tracy. Thank you. Speaker 4: If I might just briefly interject. The I think it's the reason it's so hard to wrap our heads around is it's hard to believe that someone would really someone or a group of people would intentionally do this. But, if you look at UN agenda 21, they really do actually want us dead. I mean, if you look at if you look at, some of their goals, you can see that. So, I posted an article in the chat that you can read more about agenda twenty one and also see their goal is to basically reduce 7,200,000,000 people off of the planet currently living. They want to bring it down to about half a 500,000,000 people. So the article's in the chat. Speaker 1: And it sounds like crazy conspiracy talk until you listen to them at their own events say this in their own words. So they are not shy about it. This is all documented out loud. It's conspiracy in plain sight. Noonie and then coerced nurse. Go ahead. Speaker 17: Yeah. Thanks for giving me the mic. And you know about the Nuremberg thing, what if those experts were bribed? You know, the OGBYN were all fucking bribed. Right? You know that they were given incentives that if they had, you know, forty percent, fifty percent, seventy percent of their clients vaccinated, they would get huge payouts. Okay. It's called bribery. I think that has to be factored into this Nuremberg thing. Because unless people like me who actually understand the the amount of people who will die from this and suffer greatly, you know, Unless we see a reckoning that there is no like, you guys are doing it really nice. I really appreciate that. But, there will be a reckoning because that's the only way you're gonna get reconciliation, period. We're gonna have whole Indian tribes disappear from North America. Do you think I'm gonna shut up? Are you kidding me? I I mean, this is an act of war. The fact that we're, you know, we're waiting patiently for, you know, the the wheels of justice to turn shows a great deal of tolerance and nothing more. But unless we see, you know, people being held accountable up and down the chain, and I don't know why other people aren't pursuing, like, just doing it through a you could do it through a military tribunal because all of these companies, you know, were contracted to the DOD and thus fall under their, their code of justice, whatever. But no one ever talks about that, but oh, well. The thing is, it's an information war right now, and I'm really sorry that that gentleman who came up here earlier in the cowboy hat's not here. But, please, when people say when these vaccine injured come in and they say that, you know, we can't tell, yes, there is a test. It's called the nucleocapsid test. It's all over House Lindsay's profile. She's the the the the, vaccine injured nurse who does the, vaccine injured lounge. And, yes, there's a test for that. There's also information in the red pill starter pack, which covers where they can find a doctor, you know, the, how bad is my batch is is in there. There's, treatments, protocols, all sorts of practical practical information as well as, you know, the the the various causes of harm and and shit like that as well as the legal cases. It's over a thousand links on four pages. And, it's a handy dandy little tool. Like, Cheryl, when you were talking to some of those people, you could just say, hey. Check this out, then get back to me. You know? And I've used it because it can generate a a QR code where people just scan the QR code on my phone, and then they got the link, And they could pass it on and pass it on. Because a lot of it is information people would know if we were not censored at all. And, it's free. It's not monetized. But the app, like any app, is gonna try to make you buy the app on some devices, I've been told. But there's a free version. You know? And I think it depends on what device you're viewing the website on, but it's it's clunky. I know it's a pain in the ass little app, but it does not collect user data nor sell it, which is why it was chosen for privacy. But there's information in there that people need to hear that there are tests that they can do. I put in, a couple links to my go to doc.com, and that's doctor Saeed. And he's, written some Substacks on various tests people can do. I thought I put it in here. Oh my god. I'll I'll check again. But if it's not in the, in the purple supplement, I'll, stick it in there. I thought I put it there. I must have just retweeted it. But it is, a listing of the various tests that you would need to show how badly you're injured if you suspect you have an injury. A lot of the damage won't manifest till later because the damage is cumulative over time. So it's tick tock. How soon can they get to a diagnosis and a proper doctor who understand this? And you have to remember, the majority of doctors are still under the delusion that there was a pandemic and under the delusion that the vaccine saves lives. It didn't. It's bioweapon intended to kill people. And, the, I think the the national board of OB GYNs, they were taken under as as lot as well as a lot of other hospitals where they took money, where if they didn't tow the line, they'd have to pay that money back, and they're in no position to do so. So they took the bribe, and basically continue to kill people. Waiting for these, you know, what do you call them, whistle blowers. And I think the stuff that the California chapter did today was just fabulous, and hopefully, you'll get some. And that's what you're gonna need. Excuse me. Speaker 1: For for anyone who doesn't know or hasn't seen the red pill starter pack, it is pinned in the nest, so definitely check that out. There is a lot of good information in there. Speaker 13: Noony, I just had had a quick question. You know, I had heard down the line when I was doing a lot of research on, COVID and treatment of COVID, remdesivir, and all that. And for the most of the information that I was reading and looking at, it took out males more than females, but it also took out people that are of ethnic backgrounds. Like, my husband's, you know, American Indian and, you know, Mexican and Puerto Rican and African American. Is that true? It, you know, it, like, goes towards those, you know, the the those those races, those different races, or no? Speaker 17: I have not heard anything about that, but I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it, but I have not seen the verification. Speaker 4: I might be able to speak with to that. I have my own personal, understanding of, physiology from my background as a physical therapist. We treated ethnic patients many times for burn injuries. And the way that that plays into this is when you're burned or injured in your soft tissues, you create, something called fibrin, which is a precursor to scarring. And what we have seen from the spike protein being produced in the body, what it causes is the body to produce fibrin, which is a precursor to the clotting cascade that happens. And we all know that clotting is a common problem with, the vaccines. It was one of the first things identified with the, J and J vaccine. So, what my own personal theory is is that people who have attendants tendency to hypertrophic scarring, which means really fibrous, overactive scarring, and people with dark skins and ethnic people have that known tendency. I was taught that in 1985 when I had my classes in PT school because we treated burns. So I'm what I'm saying to you is I believe that the spike protein, because it is known to cause the fibrin as part of the clotting cascade, because you can do a you can do a d dimer and you can do a fibrinogen test and see that in people. So I believe what's happening to the ethnic people is because they have a tendency already to produce excess scarring and fibrin, I believe that they are particularly at risk from the bioweapon. So that's my take on it. Speaker 1: For what it's worth, my husband, the virologist, think it thinks it's probably has something to do with ACE two and, different people having different levels of ACE two depending on their various ethnicity. So for for what that's worth. Speaker 4: Yes. The ACE two is, is where the virus itself attaches to make entry into the cell. So, yes, that is a big factor as far as how much of the the virus that has the spike protein attached to it gets into the body, which then then the spike protein produces the response that causes the fibrin. So, yes, the two are definitely linked. Speaker 13: And then the other thing I just had was, you know, I I was talking to a couple people pertaining to the vaccines and, you know, family and friends and stuff, and they're like, well, I got vaccinated, but I'm not having any issues. But from what I heard with that is sometimes it takes up to three years to start having health issues or even five or even sometimes ten years before you start to get any type of side effects to these vaccines. Speaker 4: Yes. That would make sense because it depends on how efficient your body is at producing the spike protein that your body is programmed to do when you take the bioweapon. Absolutely. Some people are gonna be much better at it, and some people aren't going to accumulate at the same rate. It's just like anything else. Some you know, any other pharmaceutical product, everybody has a different response and may have a different timeline to the response. But, yeah, makes sense. Speaker 17: And that's what I mean by cumulative over time because, if the edit is made into their DNA, they will produce their own spike protein for the rest of their lives. And so it accumulates in the body and it keeps accumulating, and it depends on how many shots they had, what batches they had. There's so many variable causes. So unless they actually go to a doctor and get those panels done, they're just guessing. And if they go to a mainstream doctor, I just bring up the fact that many professional athletes who are multimillion dollar assets to sports corporations are signed off to go play on the field by their medical team before they go play. And we've all seen how many professional athletes have dropped dead on the field. Yeah. Their doctor said they were fine. They felt fine. They dropped dead because they weren't running the correct tests. They're not gonna find what they're not looking for. So there are tests out there, and I'll put that doctor Said post in the, supplemental supplement right now. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah. Doctor Said is great. Coerced nurse, if you wanted to say something, go ahead, and then Rochelle. Speaker 6: I don't yeah. I lied. I said I wasn't gonna say much, but just hearing, talking about the protocols and medications and high distance just irritates me. Has, I've practiced for seventeen years, and I practice with a team that employed measures to ensure that people weren't over medicated, that used those hydrating, and actually listened to the patient. If we were able to pull somebody out of the hospital that had a, quote, unquote, terminal diagnosis of the COVID and they were brought on into hospice, I think we maybe had one or two, the whole pandemic that passed away. The rest were, like, discharged because they had a holistic health care approach, and their medications were revamped. So that way, they were not overmedicated. So the the whole premise of everybody died of COVID is crap. Yes. There were people, had comorbid, and COVID, unfortunately, did take their life. But people that were young and healthy that went into the hospital, there was more nefarious issues than COVID. And it just breaks my heart when I hear it because of practicing and knowing what hospice can be when you have a good hospice team. People need to know that it is okay to find doctors and to say no and to pull people out of the hospital and look at alternative therapies. If you have a loved one that is recommended to hospice and you feel that it's appropriate, ensure that you are getting a team that is certified in hospice and palliative care because that team knows and is educated in how to administer medications versus some doctor that believes they know what they are doing. I went back and forth with a doctor who said on the on the ex said, essentially, not breathing is an accepted side effect of medications in a hospice patient of adverse events. That's that word that she used, and that is absolutely not acceptable in any situation. Hospice isn't meant to hasten death. Hospice is meant to improve quality of life. And if anybody ever has any questions about it, please don't hesitate to reach out. It just breaks my heart that people have such a bad view of hospice because of doctors like that. And I am more than happy even though I can't practice now because of what's happened to me. I sure can type like a mother. So that's what I wanted to say, and I am oh, I can't breathe. I'm so sorry for everybody. I really just am. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and I think that's a really good point. One of one of our victims, Dwayne, brought to our attention in another space that hospice actually has support groups and and support offerings. And if you don't know what else to do, you can go to your local hospice, and they might actually be able to help you. So I think that's that's a really important thing to know and something I wouldn't have known if he if he hadn't told me. Speaker 6: My particular hospice, we required every employee that touched a patient, doctors, nurses, aids to be certified in hospice and dalliative care to ensure that they were getting the utmost care. Now, obviously, they don't treat their employees very well as, you know, as my case, that's why I've got a trial against them. However, I respect them for ensuring that people know what is going on and what hospice is really about. It is not hastening death in anyone that ever says that, and that says that adverse side effects from these medications is acceptable. It is not a hospice concept. Speaker 1: That is really good to know. Very important information. Thank you so much. Rochelle, go ahead. Speaker 19: Hi. I just wanted to jump in. For those that don't know, I lost two brothers to COVID eight months apart. And I just wanted to jump in on the the question, that was asked about or or talking about the different ethnophist ethnicities, and those kind of things and just say what I saw when I was, standing in my brother's ICU ward, the day he passed away, my second brother. It it was in Greeley, Colorado, very large hospital. Several ICU rooms, every single one of them were middle aged men. It it was very odd to me. I did not see one woman in there, and I'm not saying that, obviously, I know that that that there's women that this is attacked, but it seemed more so men. My sister and I were talking about it today. We were my sister received the cookbook, which is fantastic. And a lot of that is men as well and it it just makes me wonder, like, what the heck? Like, what was that plan? Like, because, again, I I was flabbergasted to see that day that I was at at my brother's, in my brother's hospital wing, the entire ICU, which was was a very large ICU wing, and all of them, every single one of them, because I made a point to look. Like, I was I I was looking and, they were all men, and it it shocked me. And, obviously, I lost two brothers and two two men. So I I just don't know. I just don't understand the correlation, I guess. And is there a correlation? Like, what what the heck? I you know, I just am so floored by all of it that I'm just legitimately curious what other people think about that. I appreciate the answer on the on the ethnicity part of it. That that was fantastic. And then the next thing, I just wanna say to course nurse, you have you have blessed our souls. I'm telling you. Like, God bless you, and thank you so much for for speaking today and and continuing to fight. And you have, you have all my respect in the world. Thank you so much for everything you've done, and we we're gonna continue to pray. Speaker 6: I really appreciate it. And, you know, if we don't speak out about what we have seen and what we have witnessed and what we have know, Where are we at and what happened to Maya? I may be dying, but I'll be damned if I go to I'm not talking about it. Speaker 19: Amen to you. Amen. Speaker 1: And thank you so much. Keep speaking out. Never stop. We we are so so grateful for your voice. Cheryl, go ahead and jump in if you had something else you wanted to add. Speaker 13: Yeah. You know, the comment that Rochelle made, you know, I have talked to I believe we have, four I we have 14 widows, I believe, in the state of Wisconsin, due to hospital protocol. And, you know, when you think about it, like, when I was a kid, my parents had six children, and my dad was the provider. My mom took stayed home and took care of the house, you know, back then. But now, I mean, you can't function. You can't, you know, run a a home without the two incomes. And I think they I think they more or less went after the men, to get them out of the way, to kill them and get them out of the way. And and, and I think I that that has a lot to do with maybe this protocol with them hoping and praying that, you know, the widows the widows that were here, you know, left with all of all of the financial strain and all of the stress and all that. I mean, I had gotten to the point where I contemplated killing myself and I will admit that a couple times. And God, thank God, Family, friends, and the Lord up above, you know, he stopped me. But, you know, the the the thing is is that I I that's what I believe with with what they did with with the men. The one thing is is having the support, you know, of everybody from CHBMP and especially Patty, and Peggy because when Chris first passed away, if it wasn't for Patty and Peggy, I probably really wouldn't be here. But I think that that was that was part of the plan. You know, they wanted us to get so damn depressed we killed ourselves. And instead, we put on our armor of God and we said, screw you, buddies. We're coming at you. January 6 is gonna be just the playground. That that's just gonna be a little playground, once these people start realizing what's going on and we all rise up and we all fight against our government. Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely. Sherry, I think if you wanted to have something to say to that, you could accept Mike. I've sent an invite. Charlene, go ahead. Speaker 20: Oh, hi. Hi, everybody. So, last night, you know, a couple of us went to an event, and there was an attorney speaking. And, you know, everybody was talking about what's going on with the shot, and, you know, then, you know, people are speaking up about what's going on in the hospital. And the attorney who you know, god bless him, he has been a champion here in New Jersey, you know, with the mandates and, you know, helping people get religious exemptions and and everything. But, see, here's the thing. Right? He's an attorney, a constitutional attorney. Right? And so, you know, maybe in our arena, he's not, you know, in that field where he could, you know, take over cases and all of that, but still. I mean, we have attorneys that are doing it anyway. Right? But he you know, the the thing that I gotta say is so in New Jersey, I just feel so blessed because, you know, we got Laurie Keith who's doing, like, our website and, you know, I mean, she's doing a lot of things, the the brochures and, you know, her and I have been doing, you know, the logo and all this. And Stephanie Stephanie has been doing a lot of research. And although I don't wanna really go into a lot of what we've discovered just yet, we found some gems, and I would say to, you know, my my hospital protocol friends, my family that, you know, Stephanie's reading everything out there, and it's a lot of work. And, you know, we're keeping it. We're we're so I guess what my point is is that the attorneys are not. They're not reading it. They're not researching it. They're not and I'm not saying all attorneys because we do have our good good group, right, that are working their butts off. What I'm saying is these other ones who won't step up because they wanna wait and see, you know, what everybody if, you know, if is there a win or, you know, strategy, whatever. They don't wanna take the time, but, man, if they would really just research it, they would they would find a way, like, in our state and Steph found a lot of jewel you know, a lot of jewels in there. And, you know, we're we're fighting, and we're we're not gonna give up. For myself, personally, I feel, you know, scared because it's not in my wheelhouse. Right? This whole thing is new, and and it's sort of nerve wracking. You know? I mean, we're all gonna we're all stressed and everything, but it's like we're entering new territory. And, so, you know, the thing is, you know, we're such a good team together, and we're supportive. And, you know, we know we have each other, and I I just I and even, you know, with our group, former feds and, you know, this project, I mean, it's we're family. I mean, we're all always there for each other, and, and that's the thing that that that gets me through it too is, you know, not knowing you're alone, which we all know that. But when you're in your own state and you're trying to fight this, and every state is different, I would just say, you know, read. Read everything. See what they've been doing, like, the the last, you know, four years because there's things in there that you you haven't seen. I would almost guarantee it. You're gonna have your own jewels in your state. So, you know, just keep Jersey in your prayers. We had a hearing, last week, and I'm happy to say that we're still on the field. And we got, like, four weeks until the next play. But we're keeping keeping ourselves and figuring out how to stay in the game over here. And, thank you for all for listen. God bless. Speaker 1: You are just killing it in New Jersey, Charlene. Thank you so much. Speaker 20: Thank you. We're we're all doing it. It's amazing work. Right? Speaker 1: It really is. And what what strikes me is how, you know, none of us could do what we're doing alone. It's only in coming together and we all bring our unique skills to the table and we can all take one thing and run with it. And between us, you know, we're we're a force to be reckoned with. So it's it's amazing to see and it's really great that it's all coming together and that we're actually getting stuff done. Speaker 20: We are. We are gonna get it done. These are some of these attorneys don't think it's possible, but we're gonna prove them wrong. I guarantee it. We are. We're gonna prove them wrong, and we're already I mean, when you look at from last year to where we are today, I mean, it feels slow, but I would say it's not slow. I would say it's it's moving at a good pace. It's just not fast enough for us, I think, My opinion. Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, when you when you see what you perceive as a literal genocide taking place in front of your eyes, nothing short of stopping it in its tracks immediately is good enough. Right? But it's these these baby steps we're taking every day. And so long as we keep making progress every day, there's no way that we we can't succeed in my mind. Coerce Nurse, did you wanna jump in here? Speaker 6: Yeah. I I, pursue for the people that have been, insured by the vaccinations. And, also, we've included COVID, and it's hopefully opened the door for people that have been, of course, mandated at work. And we've been through, I think, two rounds of attorneys and have fired them because of their lack of the knowledge, in the arenas. And now Warner, Amanda Hall's gonna be my head attorney. Patrick Hollingsworth is going to be co counsel. We had to put my case on hold. We'll be reopening it in March. I have already been awarded trial by jury, a jury in civil court, so they'll decide my ability to participate in the workers' compensation program. So I think more people that take action with their situations, the more that we can do. So I appreciate everybody that is trying to do something. It's really, really needed, and any door that opens up will help all of us as a door and a win. Speaker 1: I am so glad that Warner Mendenhall is working with you to to get some kind of justice. That is it's about time. Speaker 6: Warner's actually very good friends, and, he had made referrals for me, and knowing that it just happened, gotten to where it needed to be, he said he would absolutely take over my case. So, our biggest hurdle is going to be expert witnesses, so we'll probably start crowdfunding, soon so we can be able to cover the expert witnesses. He has donated so much to everybody, you know, that he is financially drained himself. So we don't expect him to cover those things, but we also can't afford it either. But we're gonna get there. Speaker 1: You know, I don't know exactly what you need in the way of expert witnesses, but it strikes me that there are a lot of medical professionals on our side of this, whatever you wanna call it, who would be really happy to, volunteer their time to speak, at your trial. So, I I I don't know, what kind of experts you need, but but we should explore that. Speaker 6: We are looking at the type of experts now. Certainly, doctors, neurology, virologists, epidemiologists, any any of those are going to help our case. When we talked to some of high profile on our side of this. They're wanting some extraordinary amounts of pay, and, that's why we're gonna have to raise money. We have not, really found, but one or two that are willing to volunteer their time if we cover travel. But, otherwise, we've not had much luck, without having the money to pay them. Speaker 1: Yeah. I I I really hope so, and we'll support you in that in any way we can. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Hippie dippie and then Deborah. Go ahead. Speaker 7: Alright. I just wanted to I'm not feeling great myself either. I've been passing out a lot and, having to use my oxygen when it I thought I was almost weaned off of. But, I just wanted to thank you guys, for just continuing to be here every single week, because, you know, it just means a lot knowing that there's others out out here that are, looking out for us. I'm trying to piece together what happened, to me. So I'm not really quite ready to tell my story, but, I just I can't tell you guys enough how much I appreciate you and and how much I love you, daddy. She knows that. Thank you so much. Speaker 1: Thank you for the very kind words. We're we're so grateful that you're you're with us. We really appreciate it. Who is next? Deborah and then Sherry Martin. Speaker 21: Hi, everyone. Just I wanna kinda piggyback on Coherst nurse. First of all, I want you to know how much I admire you, and I'm praying for you. And, as a a long time hospice nurse old hospice nurse, I should say, My husband was killed by the hospital protocol. My brother was killed by, I'm convinced, vaccine injured. But I wanted to talk about kinda piggyback on what she was saying about hospice because it back in the day, we were we went through a lot of cert not just a little bit of certification for it. You had to do a lot. And the hospices that I dealt with with my brother, I was as a hospice nurse. It it was just what I saw as nurse and what what and what he was dealing with, a lot of it was they were not nurses for very long, which, you know, back when when I became one, you would you were a nurse for quite a long time before you even decided to go into that field. And I what I experienced with him was young young nurses, you know, I'm talking six, seven years total, and watched medical error, as far as, medication, the way just numerous errors after errors, and I had three different hospices that dealt with him. And it was just heart wrenching to see something that I even at me as trying to be his advocate and and a nurse, try to stand up for him and get nowhere. It seemed like everywhere I went, it was a somewhere, it was getting stopped at at the dock or whatever. But I just wanted to say, you know, the experience that there what she was saying is I think there is awesome hospices out there, and I think through some of this, it's gonna get a very bad name because of what's going on. And, and, you know, as a sister, I was very it broke my heart to watch my brother suffer. I'm sorry. And I'll be first of all, when my husband died, I was so educated on the vaccinations and stuff, and I just didn't know anything about the protocol. And I feel so guilty that I didn't know enough to save him, and that's still dealing with my brother at the time. I was already I was taking care of him when my husband got sick. And no. I'm sorry. I just I I gotta stop first. I'm sorry. I just want you to know I'm praying for you, and I just I love your courage. And as I hope as a collective body of people right now that we lift you and that God just gives you a miracle because you're an awesome person. Speaker 4: Yeah, Deborah. We are we are all rooting for you. Speaker 6: I appreciate that, and thank you so much. I'm so sorry for your loss. I know it's easier said than done, but please don't feel guilty. We all went up against something that we didn't know the potentials and as much knowledge that we acquired over the years in nursing. There's no knowledge that we're ever taught about vaccinations and and what it really can do to you and others. I think that because of what has happened to us, all we feel guilty and that we're the reason why our families suffer, and it's hard not to feel that way. So I I feel Speaker 1: That was really part of it, wasn't it? It was dividing are families and breaking families apart. Speaker 6: And it's not your fault. Speaker 1: Miriam, go ahead. Sorry. Sherry Martin, go ahead. Speaker 5: Can you hear me? Yes. We can. Well, this is a miracle. Wow. This is a tough evening. So I'm gonna kinda go back to Rochelle and Cheryl's comments earlier because, and and you guys are just gonna have to forgive me. It took me a while to get my tinfoil hat nice and adjusted. The discussion about the number of men that was seen or, you know, seen in the in the ICUs, and you can look at the database for CHBMP, and there is no doubt, yes, we lost women. But predominantly, we lost men. And, yeah, I do believe that there is a reason, and that's why I had to get my tinfoil hat ready. And I don't know whether this is related, but it seems kind of like, you know, nowadays, do you really ignore coincidences? In 2018 or 2019, '23 and me, I believe, decided to sell its database. And I know that the CCP was interested in very interested in it. Now according to the published reports that I can find, they did not win the bid. That doesn't mean they didn't come back and buy from the second company or they didn't buy another company. But if they had that company, they'd have a lot of data to go on if they were looking for weaknesses in genetics that would give them a choice of who they could take out. So let's say they did. That's how they picked it. They had some metric that they went by. Look at the number in our database alone, the number of people who come to our support meetings, and we're hearing widow after widow talk about how their house is in foreclosure. They can't feed their children. They have to eliminate thirty, forty, fifty years of possessions that they gather with their husbands and and try to figure out a way to make it, maybe try to get a job. And maybe at their age, they can't really get a good paying job. So who takes care of them? The government, because that's the last thing that's left. And then they are subservient to the government. I know that sounds crazy, but I really it's it in my mind, it's all about control. I'm waiting for the day that they make the announcement that and if you're if you're on Social Security or you are, you know, reliant on Medicare or Medicaid, that you're going to be forced into the vaccination programs if you wanna continue to have these, quote, unquote, benefits. That's just me. And I'm trying to remember what the other things were that that that I wanted to talk about, but I'm gonna switch gears completely now because I want everyone to know we all heard when when you talk to people about remdesivir and you tell them that kidney failure, for COVID is not COVID. It's from remdesivir, and they say, no. That's COVID that causes kidney failure. I'm gonna tell you a brief bit of a story about a couple that I met, and, they live not far from me. And, I've got my back window on my truck lettered letting people know that, you know, if you had a COVID death in the hospital, it might not be COVID. And the wife saw me driving through the Walmart parking lot, and she and her daughter and her daughter's friend chased me down. And, so I sat down with the with the wife and the husband because he is a survivor. And one of the things that happened in his illness was he went into the local hospital, and he knew or they knew because they she was out of town when he initially went in the hospital. But they knew not to not to accept remdesivir. And he refused, and it was a battle. He was pressured heavily. And she was pressured to talk him into it, which she would not do. Now she and in in this particular instance, this was in the it was in January '22. And she was allowed in the hospital, which was a good thing because she could help take care of him. If I remember correctly, she was taking, foods, you know, healthy nutritional things in for him and helping him. And he did end up on the vent. And after a couple weeks, weeks on the vent, the hospital decided that in order for him to come off the vent, he would have to go to a rehab hospital. So they shipped him out to another hospital. Well, in the last day or so of him being in the first hospital, the wife is getting messages from the nurses on a regular basis as she visits him. Wow. He's got the best kidneys. It's so unusual to see kidneys as strong as his at this point in this illness. It's amazing how strong. He's got such great kidneys. He never had remdesivir. Do you think that after two weeks on the vent, he would have kidneys that strong if he'd been on remdesivir? Now he went to a much bigger hospital. When you think that he's going to rehab, he went to a much bigger hospital as far as that goes. And it took a little bit. They he went into one section of the hospital, and if I recall correctly, he was actually shifted to another section that was more specialized. And he ended up having to have a double lung transplant. And he did go on ECMO. And that's when he got some kidney damage, but it was after he was on ECMO. And he's I mean, they're still together, but he shouldn't have survived all that. And I don't believe that he would have if he'd gotten remdesivir. So when people tell you remdesivir doesn't hurt kidneys or remdesivir is safe or remdesivir saved me, I've seen a few people say that on Twitter, and I even know someone. Okay. But it doesn't necessarily save everybody else. And if you look at John Beaudoin's, statistics, he points out that in 2020, of course, Anthony Fauci named Remdesivir the standard of care. I believe it was 04/29/2020. He was sitting on the couch with doctor Birx right next to him and president Trump sitting in the background. They were in the Oval Office, and he extolled the virtues of remdesivir in this new study they had just done, which when you go back and you look at it, it was very flawed and or corrupted. So they began using remdesivir, but not not everybody was using it. Some people in in Florida, they were using hydroxychloroquine. That's what nurse Erin said when she got to New York. She was horrified at what was going on in the hospitals because they were saving people in Florida. But when they changed to remdesivir, everybody went to remdesivir. But when they got to November 2020 and the CARES Act money kicked in, kidney injuries and failures skyrocketed off the charts immediately because that's when the money started paying for them to use it. And it wasn't just recommended anymore. It was paid for with big bucks. So there's a little history. Speaker 1: Right. These protocols were incentivized with our tax dollars. Speaker 6: So that Yep. A lot of yep. Speaker 5: A lot of people don't realize how much money was going out. I've seen lots of numbers, and that's I've got some digging to do to get all that in front of me so that I can say, okay. According to this and according to this and according to that. One of the things that makes it so hard is the entire thing is so convoluted. If you look at the protocols, they kept updating the protocol so that it would change every few weeks. And you almost have to go back to when your loved one passed and see what was what was in force at that time. As of right now or let me rephrase that. As of about six weeks ago, I can still see them. But, Michael Hamilton is is is an attorney that some of us know, and he's been very vocal about reminding everyone that when you go to the hospital, they give you the free PCR. By the way, for anybody who's listening who hasn't been in the hospital, if you are awake when you are taken to the hospital right now, you tell them if they're gonna send that PCR off to have it tested. They're gonna use their own DNA because you're not gonna be getting that stick up your nose. It's gonna go up their nose. Do not take another test because it's BS from the very beginning. And if you do a little bit of studying, you'll find that all out because it can be a matter of the cold you had three weeks ago is what they're coming up with. If you don't have any symptoms, and if you do, you don't know if it's flu or pneumonia, and they come up with COVID. And then they have an excuse to throw you on the COVID ward, and then that's where it begins. At the height of the CARES Act, money coming out. And Michael still feels like there's money coming into the hospitals for this. The COVID test is a and keep in mind, when I say bonus, the hospital is going to bill your insurance or your Medicare or your Medicaid, whatever you happen to be they're gonna bill that. When I say bonus, this is money you never see. It's not on your bill. You're never gonna see that. You ask for detailed billing. You're gonna see exactly what the insurance company was billed. You're not gonna see these bonus dollars because it's actually a totally shadow, you know, side matter of business for the hospital. So you get a bonus that to this point looks like it's $13,000 they get for a positive COVID test. That's the extra. If they put you in a regular room, there's a bonus. If they put you in an ICU room, there is a bigger bonus. Now if you get moved up to the the IC room, that's when, you know, another bonus kicks in. Layered sedatives. And I'm sorry. There's gonna be a truck going by. I'm hoping it's not gonna cause any trouble here. Layered sedatives. We all all of us who lost somebody, when we go back over the drugs that our loved ones got, the amount of sedatives would take out the average horse. And they layer them, two different kinds, alternating as they give them, and that's causing that's not helping. It certainly is not helping their breathing, their respiration. Layered sedatives gives you a bonus. Of course, you've got that bonus of remdesivir is based on the final billing. So it's a 20% of whatever the final bill is. The longer you keep that patient alive, that bill gets bigger. So that 20% continues to add on. Now the they've got a a code for the vent. First of all, that's a $39,000 bonus plus whatever they built for the use of the vent and the maintain maintenance of the vent. The, but in my husband's case, it's plainly in his records, not his billing, in his records, where it says that it must be used for at least 96 hours or they don't get that bonus. It's called a DRG. So they get a bonus for the vent. And I don't know about the dialysis, but I would imagine there's a fair chance that that's possible. But even if we ignore everything after the hookup of the vent, maybe you make it and maybe you don't. But according to Michael, that COVID diagnosis in box number one on that death certificate, even if it's mixed with other items in box number one, having COVID there or COVID pneumonia, We know the coroner gets a bonus. And according to Michael, money goes to the state, not just to the hospital. So is this why our state representatives are acting like we're persona non grata? Are they not talking to us because they arranged for that money to come to the state? Hey. There you go. Gotta readjust my tinfoil hat. But everybody's got their day gone hands in this cookie jar. And as long as their hands are in this cookie jar, it's gonna continue. I see where representative Thomas Massie pointed out yesterday on his Twitter feed that he had a relative who tested positive for COVID, and they tried to put him on remdesivir, and the family was able to prevent it. I believe he said they got them out, which means he's well aware of what's going on. And people in the in the comments of his Twitter feed were saying, when did this happen? And he said, just this week. You and I, all of us here, whether you're vaccine injured, whether you're a protocol victim, should be freaking livid because he was able to save his family member because he had hierarchy. When we beg these assholes to come forward and stop the killing because they couldn't help us save our family members, and all we're asking for you to do is stop these assholes from killing people. And you guys act like we're crazy, but you know that remdesivir kills and you saved your loved one just burns me. Speaker 1: And and rightly so. It's infuriating that that anyone was profiting off of these protocols that cause so much suffering and that people are still profiting off of them is infuriating. Mhmm. Speaker 6: Yep. Speaker 4: Could I interject just a moment? Speaker 5: Sure. You can do that because I can't talk much more, or I'll start saying worse words. Speaker 4: Yeah. It it is absolutely infuriating, and I just wanna validate what you were just saying about Rand Paul. He is he is aware. I actually wrote a Substack just in the past few days, and it includes inside of it. I'm gonna post it. I'm gonna tell you what the title is so you can look for it. It shows the alphabetical vote, by senator, by name, and by state, who voted for the CARES Act, which, was which funded these crimes against humanity. As a matter of fact, it was $13,000,000,000,000 that was used to fund, these crimes against humanity through the CARES Act. This is where the CMS, CMMS payments came from to pay for all of the things that we were just talking about, the ventilator, the REM VISV group protocol, etcetera, etcetera, the bonuses, everything. So the title of it is, Edward Snowden speaks the truth. Legal does not equal moral or right. The CARES Act has funded and enabled crimes against humanity. Inside of that, you will see and the the subtitle is, Substack provides a timeless truth from Edward Snowden. We must remember the names of every senator who voted for the CARES Act on 03/25/2020. Okay? So that's I'm gonna have that in there. It the I'll try to put this the subtitle on so people can see that it includes the names of the senator, but I thought Edward Snowden's name would pull people's attention to it probably bigger. But I will put that as the primary, phrase with the article. And I can tell you this, I'm looking at the list right now, every single senator in the United States Senate voted yay for that bill, with the exception of four who did not vote. And this does not absolve them of responsibility because guess who one of the four was? Rand Paul. He did not vote. And not not voting is not the same as Exactly. Voting against. What it means is he knew the problem, but he didn't want to vote no. And Romney, same way in Utah. Thune, John Thune in South Dakota, and, whoever the last name, Lee. I don't know his first name, but he's a Republican in Utah. That's Mike Lee. Of all people, Mike Lee. He did not vote, but every single other senator, and I will post this, voted yes. Speaker 6: Nobody. Voted no. Yeah. Speaker 5: No. And and this is probably one of the biggest reasons why they can't I mean, you have to know. Everybody on this call has to know. You're not when you're contacting your politicians, whether they're state or they're federal, these people have known about this a lot longer than we have. They've known because immediately when this stuff started hitting the fan and families could not see their loved ones and they could not control their health care, you know constituents went to their representatives and begged for help. So they know what happened. They know what CMS did. They know how that money was distributed, and they know what it caused. They're all ass deep in it, if not deeper, and they refuse to talk about it. And is that why our mainstream media, even our so called heroes like Dan Bongino and Glenn Beck and and and, I don't know, Sean Hannity. Any of these people will not discuss it. Is it because of the under the thumb of pharma, or are they under the thumb of the government, or is it combination of the two since the two have melded now? Speaker 1: Wasn't it But they will not discuss it. Wasn't it you, Sherry, who went on one of these radio shows and you got, like, four words out and they shut you down? Was it Mark Levin? Speaker 5: Yeah. Mark Levin. When the minute I said remdesivir, he shut me down. And that's been a year and a half ago because we were in a support meeting, and I was listening on the side and had to make that call because he had opened it up, and he was discussing COVID. And it just makes me live in but look at Curtis Curtis Bey. He called Sean Hannity's show radio show. He got on there. It wasn't long after Tammy was murdered, and he was weeping. And Shawn didn't know what to do with him, but he never followed up. He never talked about it. And when you think about it, then, Alex Stein was on Shawn's show, and he said that I can't remember. It's a Texas hospital. Baylor had killed his mother with remdesivir, that they had gone against the family wishes, and they killed his mother, and Sean couldn't change the subject fast enough. Glenn Beck did a big expose, and he put it on one of his nighttime specials, and he was tracking the contracts with Moderna and the government related to the vaccine. And he found this is what makes me crazy makes everybody crazier. He found that the Moderna contracts for an mRNA vaccine for a coronavirus began being discussed and written up and negotiated, I believe, as far back as 2013. And they they revisited it several times. The government and Moderna went back and forth, and they kept revisiting it and trying to organize what they were going to do with it. That contract was signed December 2019. How fortuitous. Because in January, when the discussion of a pandemic going around the world of some kind of respiratory disease, Moderna was the first one out the gate saying, We've got a plan. So in that case, that contract meant that the government, and I don't even know how this works. This is the fanciest laundering job you could see. The government and Moderna, when it comes to the payment for the vaccines, they split the profit. So the government got money back off of our tax dollars, and Glenn did this big expose. It was on The Blaze. I watched the show. The following day, he had Rand Paul on, and he reamed Rand Paul about it. Well, they did this and they did that. He was rattling off everything, and Rand Paul was acting really surprised. I don't understand. How did you get these? Are you sure they're legitimate? And can you send them to me? And Glenn said, Yes, of course, I can send them to you. So to my knowledge, Glenn sent them to Rand. Guess what? I can't find that on The Blaze anymore. Where did that expose go? Because all the stuff before and after it is still there. And then we all know, for people who were looking at it, the Blaze, who we all think of as our constant, you know, conservative supporter, Steve Baker is their reporter, and he's being hounded by the FBI because he was doing reporter stuff. He was doing actual journalism on j6. He was in the Capitol, but then when the blaze picked him up on a permanent full time basis, all of a sudden the FBI decided that as a reporter, he had no right to be in that capitol. Now even though these, you know, his being picked up came in at a later date. So they had, they warned Steve Baker, the FBI did, that, you know, we're gonna have to speak to you. We need to sit down with you. And we've seen many times that the FBI will make these overtures to the people that they wanna speak to, quote unquote, and then they'll find them in an airport or they'll drag them out into their front yard in their underwear and put them in the leg irons. So, a couple of weeks ago, they stood in Dealey Plaza, Steve Baker and his attorneys, one of which is our founder, Brad Geier. And Brad gave a very impassioned speech at the press conference. And at one point in that speech, he mentioned the widows that he's working with and what we have been through. When the Blaze put out their version of and the only reason we know that is because one of the wives or girlfriends of a j sixer was at that meeting, and she was live streaming. And it was hard to hear, but you could hear enough of it to understand exactly which attorney was talking and what they were saying. So we know that Brad said it. We saw it live at the time, but when The Blaze put their nice polished version out with no background noise from traffic, etcetera, Brad was cut off short, and he you didn't get to see the end of his his speech. And that's the Blaze helping us all out. We have no friends out there, except for the small podcasters and the small radio stations who are willing to take our stories and try to get it out there. And the only thing we can do is warn our fellow man and woman because we certainly aren't going to see any help from the government or the the, journalists that we have come to know and now at this point despise. And I'm done ranting. Somebody take this from me, please. Speaker 1: That is it's so right, and and it's so disheartening that even the people that you think you can count on to to take up this important story are just ignoring it. And I think that that demands scrutiny. Why? You know? What what how are they benefiting from our silence? Mhmm. Mhmm. Destiny and then Heidi. Go ahead. Speaker 18: Hello, and thank you for this space. I'm not vaccine injured. I I just do research for the vaccine injured on their behalf. And, you know, these spaces are very important. They're extremely important for people like myself to keep me motivated, to do the right thing, which is get you guys all the help you need. I heard someone earlier speaking about the, vaccine adverse event reporting system and also their personal experience with noticing a lot of men in the hospitals. I've I've done the VAERS every two weeks the past almost four years. And I could tell you what you observed is reflected in the data. Currently, we're sitting at thirty seven thousand one hundred reported deaths to the VAERS. Of course, these numbers are anywhere between one and fourteen percent of reality, so take that as you will. Thirty seven thousand one hundred, that's total for male, female, and unknown. Sometimes they don't mark the sex, on the. Fifteen thousand of those so thirty thirty or so percent were were females. Men had, over 40. So it was, barely a difference there. Not as great. But where you see the differences, in the permanent disability is really where it starts to kind of stow through. So for permanent disability, we're at a startling sixty nine thousand six hundred and twenty nine permanently disabled following COVID nineteen vaccination in this country. Of those, sixty three percent of them are female, and, thirty four percent are male. Now when you go through the data to look at the, the unknowns, it becomes pretty clear that almost all the unknowns are men for the deaths, which puts them, well over almost close to sixty something percent. So men were dying more. Women are injured more. That is what the data shows. And also for remdesivir, I could go all day into the makings of this vaccine. It's my expertise. And let me tell you, Ralph Baric is gonna have a really hot day, you know, where one day. So for what he did because he's the one who brought forth remdesivir. He's the one who the government let choose which vaccines we were allowed to have, and that's unforgivable. There is a a a sad fact about remdesivir. It's a horrible thing. Now fifty percent and I just got these specific numbers earlier, last night. So last night. So it's been a day. They said that of all the hospitalizations that were were COVID hospitalizations during the pandemic, that fifty percent of them were treated with remdesivir. So if anyone wants to know where the big death toll came from, fifty percent of everyone who had to be in the hospital for COVID was put on remdesivir, and most of them without consent. And so what you see is people, between the first and the second dose, they always say the second dose is what kills you. Well, if there is the happenstance that you were the kind of person who got COVID really bad was hospitalized and was given remdesivir only to get out of that hospital and get your vaccination. That is the highest fatality rate subgroup there is. It's somebody who was hospitalized before with severe COVID then got out and decided for some reason to get their vaccines and boosters. They they suffered the greatest, over sixty seven percent, either were fatalities or ended up with permanent disability. So I wanted to share those numbers with you guys, just so you guys can I'm sure you guys are all familiar with these things. But, I wanted to just assure you that what you're seeing with the men is true. I could speculate as to why men died more. What it seems to be looking like is, of course, like, myocarditis was a big factor in the fatalities. Women were less affected by the myocarditis. Women were far more affected by neurological illnesses. The Guillain Barre and anything that had to do with the neurological function, women were more affected. My speculation on this is is that women, we are given these wonderful things called, supportive membrane, like, super supportive membrane. So our blood brain barrier, our placentas are built in extra awesome because we give life. And because of that, I have a feeling that the, spike protein may have gone into the blood brain barrier, which we've seen in numerous vaccine injured, and causing neurological diseases as it kinda gets stuck in there. We know it bioaccumulates in certain organs, including the brain, the heart, the kidneys, the lungs, and the liver, and the testicles and the placenta, which is why we're seeing so many, problems with birth rates right now, especially for first time mothers. You're also seeing, for the men, more heart attacks. I recently just put a thread out yesterday that makes me so mad. Unfortunately, the vaccines, were always going to cause myocarditis. And since 1992, they were aware of that. That was before SARS even. They knew that coronavirus induced coronavirus could cause, or a vaccine to mimic such will cause myocarditis. It was not in that study, gender specific. They used this on rabbits, but it was a clear sign of, mortality. And then almost all of them ended up dying. Those who did have myocarditis of the rabbits died all shortly within a fairly short amount of time. Now it's not to say, of course, we're not we're not the same. So we have much more going for us. We have each other, for instance, and, advocates and something rabbits don't have. So we'll we're gonna do much better, but the young men, I think a lot of it comes down to, yes. It bioaccumulates in the heart for men and women, so why was it higher in men? My only thinking in rationale of that is that maybe, it has something to do with iron stores. Women, especially those under menopause age and in the early years of menopause age, still have lower stores of iron than men do. Men have their bodies programmed to store it and keep it. We, as women during men's years, will shed a lot of our iron. Ironing, but also bioaccumulates in the heart with higher iron, higher accumulation in the heart. That's my only kind of possible reasoning for it. I'm sure there's far smarter people that have figured it out. But I just wanted to share that with you guys and let you know I'm not giving up on any of you guys. Not a chance. I'm I'm mad every single fucking day for you guys. Excuse my English. I just I want you guys to know there's one person who's really never gonna stop, and I I'm not. And you guys are family to me. I don't even know half of you. I know half of you, though. I do recognize a lot of faces. And I I just I pray for you guys. So I'll I'll land right there. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Destiny. It strikes me you are so good at doing all this research. I don't know if you would consider, joining us as a volunteer and maybe writing for our substack or, you know, contributing to our blog or something. Speaker 18: Absolutely. Speaker 1: That would be awesome. There I'll post the link, but it's it's chbmp.org/join. There's a short intake form there, and, and then I'll connect you to the team. I look forward to talking to you more. Speaker 22: Thank you. Speaker 1: Heidi, did you wanna Speaker 12: Yeah. You know, thank you so much. But, yeah, I also wanted to add you know, I wanted to go back, you know, to how, you know, the Levin's and the Hannity's of the world were, you know, censoring the truth. You know? To add to that, our local radio stations, right, who conservative talk shows especially, have been censored. We were in Speaker 1: Oop. Heidi, we we lost your audio. I see you're reconnecting. Are you there? Heidi. You might have to leave and rejoin, Heidi. I can't hear you anymore, But we definitely wanna hear the rest of what you were saying. Allegra, did you wanna say a few words? Speaker 23: Hi. Yes. I was hearing that young lady speak destiny and just thought of what she was saying. You know? I am a survivor from Remdesivir, and I was coerced in the hospital while I was there, and especially after my wife died was put under so much coercion to get the vaccine. And, you know, me not knowing any better, not, you know, being indoctrinated in the system for so long, I just assumed that, they were telling me the truth. They that my wife had died of COVID and that in order for me to stay alive and not get sick and end up in the hospital again, I needed to go get this shot. And, you know, I got two alarm. You know? I I went for two rounds. And, first round, it really didn't affect me, I guess, maybe because I was still out of the hospital getting off of remdesivir, blood clots coming out of my nose, blisters on my face, my hair falling out, Couldn't walk, couldn't breathe. Barely barely breathing, you know, with oxygen and when I got these shots. And then second shot I got, I felt deathly sick in my bed alone with my daughter. She was only two years old. I could only get up to get make her food to eat, change her, and I have to lay back down right away. I didn't have anybody to help me. I thought every day I was gonna die. I just knew that something wasn't right. Something wasn't right. And I found former feds group. I found all of the widows here, and I started talking to me about ivermectin. You guys saved my life. You guys saved my life. You saved me. I got my hands on to my ivermectin, and I started taking it. Within a month, I got my voice back. I couldn't hardly even talk, couldn't even get out words to make a sentence. And after I took that, I just knew. I knew about my heart that everything was a lie. And after I took that first second shot, I lost my menstrual cycle for four months for four months. And I I got blisters on my face that would just come out randomly just get blisters on my face. Every time I was gonna have a menstrual cycle, when I get menstrual cycles, I was getting blisters on my face. And all that's left of it now because of you guys educating me, of you guys opening my eyes and helping me see the truth. All I have left is, you know, the neurological effects. Like Destiny said, it's the neurological effects that I struggle with now. And so if you ever had a doubt, if you ever had that gut feeling, you were probably feeling something that was true. That that wasn't right when you were in the hospital or when you got the shot. I happen to think that I'm vaccinated as a little girl now because early in age, I got Ramsay Hunter Syndrome. I got shingles. My mom vaccinated me when I was five years old with the chickenpox virus. So I happen to think upon doing more research, upon finding more evidence of what has been going on with me for all these years, I think I'm actually that's injured from a little girl. And, I survived all these years, and I'm here to tell you that, you know, when God has a plan for you, when God has his hand over your life, there's nothing that the devil can do to change that. And after, we lost Evangeline, you know, he made that pact with me even more clear. He's made me stronger than ever. He's given me life to live and to continue to be Evangeline's voice and and anybody's voice who who can't speak up. I'm proud. I'm proud to say, you know, I'm finally gonna get an opportunity to speak, on the children's health defense bus that's gonna be coming here February 26. I'm desperately trying to find people here where I'm at. There is other widows that I talked to, but this thing has broken them down so much. It's hard. It's hard for them to continue going on. For some of them, they don't wanna live. For some of them, they don't know how to live. And, you know, I'm I'm trying to do the groundbreaking here. I'm looking for people here in Arizona. I'm looking for somebody to help me get rally's going to to help be a voice in this here because this culture here, they they believe that this was what people got if they got sick and they died from a virus. It's sad. How lady just come to me, tell me she got another COVID shot. I could see it in her eyes. She's not gonna make it very much longer. I see it in my my mother-in-law. She just got out of the hospital again because she's gone for her boosters. She's, you know, back and forth back and forth. Whatever the doctors tell her to do, she's doing it. And somehow, she's still here. I don't know how, but she's just got out of a a out of the hospital, out of a surgery because she had a clogged artery in her leg. So I'm so thankful for former friends. I'm so thankful for CHBNP. I'm so thankful for everybody who comes on here and speaks the truth because without us speaking and hearing people hearing our voices, you know, this is what is helped people wake up to see what's going on. And, yeah, that's that's all I gotta say. If anybody, knows anybody in Arizona trying to pull stuff together, you know, I'm here. I'm here. Please reach out to me. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you. You are doing such a great job, Allegra, as our Arizona state chair, and I am just so proud of all the work you're doing. Thank you so much. Speaker 2: Can I can I interject here for just a little bit? Something keeps something keeps coming to my heart, and I just wanted to bring this up real quick. For those that are in the space that may be new or listening and wanna share their story or unsure about it, I just wanted to remind you that it just keeps coming around. Everybody keeps saying about the support from our group. If you go to our website, chbmp.org, there are many different support groups that we have throughout various, days of the week. There's art, there's, widow group, there's lost parent there's parents who've lost children. So I just wanted to remind everybody that we do have those support tools out there for you to use, and get involved with if that's something that you need. So, you know, in addition to to sharing your information and telling your stories, our organization does support you and, try to give you that, love from different, groups that we have. So I just wanted to remind people that that is out there as well. Speaker 13: I just posted in the chat the list of what we have for support groups. Yep. The list is in the chat if you wanna see it. Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Thank you so much. And I have pinned that to the top of the nest, so you should see that at the top of the space. So definitely check out our support groups. Speaker 10: Hey, Chelsea. This is Brad. Can I just say a few words? Yeah. We'd love to hear from you, Brad. Go ahead. And I'll I'll actually keep this short because I'm not sleep deprived. So we're wrapping up our work here in, Vietnam. We have been in Hanoi and in Saigon and in Long An province meeting with victims, of the vaccine. This is going to be, one of our avenues of attack for a foreign, Tort Claims Act case that we have about 90% done. We think there's a way through in the second circuit, maybe a glitch in the armor, so to speak. And what really has struck me this time we we we have actual people that have are are now under under fee agreements. We've had translators, and we explained to them what was in the in the fee agreements, and they've dutifully signed. And they are all in. There's a little bit more fear, I think, in the North. We lost a couple, victims and plaintiffs up there. They're worried about central government retaliation. We can probably sympathize with that to a degree. Down here in the South, there's much more, of a you know, there's I should say, there's much less concern about that. Really, people are signing up without any trepidation whatsoever. But last night, I was out having a couple of drinks, and an 80 year old man came in the table next to me. And, we got into a conversation, and, I could tell he was struggling to form words. This is through a translator, right, I could tell him speaking Vietnamese that he was having trouble. He kept on repeating the same thing, that he was a military. He was an MP, for the South Vietnamese army. And, he kept stumbling. And to the translator, it turned out that, yeah, that he had a a mini stroke that affected his speech, and it happened after a second vaccine. So these these folks are all over the place over here just like they are in The United States, and we're in a process now where we're beginning to aggregate our forces. We're having new, successes in terms of being able to basically create new language to explain what happened. Part of the SIOP is that the ordinary, systems that create language create new ideas, new concepts for things you're observing the physical universe are actively retarded or prevented from forming up. It's been going on for quite some time, certainly a period of years. So anybody engaged in that, we are. We are building the message. We're sharing the message. We're gonna be facing some significant obstacles, and we've all seen that. We can see how hard it is to get our message out even among our allies. Sometimes for whatever whatever reason, whatever risk risk, assessments they're doing, for whatever reason, they can't just fully embrace our message. There's lots of reasons for that. But what I do know is that that's gonna get easier, and that ultimately, our message will be heard. It will be accepted and embraced. We're continuing to make our our progression to a a a footing that is more offensive based, less reactive, more proactive. Right now, there's an Oklahoma Freedom Conference that's happening while we're having the spaces. I'm in Saigon, Vietnam talking to victims over here. We're actively preparing for an Atlanta conference on March. That's gonna be an amazing event. We have a whole hospital homicide rally, I believe, in Houston on May 31, the first of the June first. And then there's a litigation conference, another litigation conference. I think this is the second on June seventh. I believe that's in Las Vegas. So if we just look at where we were last year at this time, we would not be looking into out out the windshield, looking forward at five, six events. And I'm those are just off the top of my head. There there there are many others. So we're we're on the move. Our momentum is increasing. I can tell you, I think as early as this week, we're gonna have a prosecution referral letter from our organization. Rachel Rodriguez, and attorney she work with she works with, and Paul Gardner, with the help of our victims, some of whom are on this call, made a referral to the attorney general's office for investigation. Our it's it's been suggested to us that that was, sort of diverted, but I understand we're able to get that over to the surgeon general's office, surgeon general of Dapo. Today, I understand it was announced that, he was unhappy with submissions made by the Food and Drug Administration, and he's contemplating banning mRNA vaccines in Florida. So anybody here who thinks that they don't have the ability to change, change everything, you do. It's not always a sequential line from point a to point b to point c to point d, but we're in the we're we're in an increasing, scenario where there's just a confluence of events. There's so much dynamic change happening that somebody who ordinarily wouldn't have that much influence or impact on events can have, monumental impacts on events. So we're we're seeing evidence of that now. That's all going to increase. But it this the first letter was to Florida. We think we have a, we we can clearly document that important advancement was made as as as a result in part of that letter being being issued to the to the attorney general of Florida. We had the letter that went from a number of us under, doctor Witcher's letterhead to the Mississippi attorney general. We're assessing where that stands. And then as early as this week, we're gonna send something to attorney general Paxton in Texas, and we're already lining up the next credit referral letter for the great state of Louisiana with, Ed Tarpley. So we're clear and by the way, we we we anticipate we'll be doing 50 of these. And in each letter in the preamble, we're gonna list what, you know, essentially a a report card on what's happened on our prior referrals. It's gonna be with each one, the the entity receiving it is gonna be under increasing pressure to actually do something and act appropriately as they're obligated to do. In that letter, I make it very clear that it's from the Humanity Restoration Board, with a full approval of our membership. So it's not just a letter from an attorney to the attorney general. It's from our membership, with with all of the, moral standing that that carries with it. So, again, that's that's a program where where this is gonna be our third state in. We're we're we have a fourth in the near term. We have five, six, and seven we'll be announcing soon. On the twentieth in Sacramento, I believe it'll be. I'd better find that out because I gotta make my plane reservations. We're gonna be arguing in front of the, district court in the, Eastern District Of California, removal motion and a motion to dismiss in the in the Gilead case involving remdesivir. Very, very tough. The probably the toughest legal scenario that you could ever wanna face, going up against Gilead. They have an unlimited budget, and they're willing to spend whatever it takes to squash you and pulverize you. But, we think we have at least a decent shot. Everybody's encouraged to come. Let their voices be heard at the courthouse. I'm sure that our team will be letting everybody know, what the what the details of of that are. That's that's occurring on on February 20. Let's see. What else do we have here? Entering appearance. Oh, so in New Jersey, again, we're we're trying to figure out how to be better with getting these cases referred out. When I say these cases, I'm referring to hospital homicide cases referred out. We think we referred out over a 100 by this time. I've yet to learn of one that was referred out to an attorney where an attorney signed on where it got dismissed. All those, my understanding is, are viable. If you're looking for indicia that your a form of analysis you were engaged in many months before was accurate, you might, you know, you might wanna look at the fact that we thought there was a theoretical way through to get through PrEP Act immunity. We acted on that. We referred cases out, and none of them have been dismissed as far as I know. If I were predicting back then when we were referring all those cases out, you know, what what the outcome would be, I would be tickled pink if I could look into my crystal ball and see that none of them would have been dismissed. Again, those are just an it's just an independent verifier that, you know, we didn't fly in from planet Mars, that we're, we're we're engaging, I think, in realistic risk risk prognostication, making sound judgments, and making moves going forward that ultimately have to prevail. So what we're doing now are the building blocks, and and and we absolutely will prevail. There's just there there's no two ways about it. And by prevail, I, of course, am talking about full accountability. Now when I say full accountability, what my my definition is, enough criminal prosecutions where, victims feel like their sacrifice wasn't in vain, combined with enough real changes to our systems to prevent it from ever happening again and to, permit the systems once again to restore themselves. There's something terribly terrible has got happened to our systems. They've all become compromised and corrupted. There's agency capture out of state like I've never seen before. I think, yeah, I'd love to just point fingers at individuals. Like, you know, nobody, you know, no one no one holds doctor Fauci in lower regard, than I do. But the bottom line is it was our systems that allowed that that that individual to rise to the top of the heap. And so we really have to look at our systems and get them all fixed. It's gonna be it require massive, massive rehabilitation, restoration, reforms. It's almost, it's it's it's it's daunting to even think about what's gonna be required. But most certainly, we're gonna have to have accountability that includes prosecutions and active enforcement, grant fraud, science fraud, being the the chief, mechanisms of enforcement that create deterrents, general and specific deterrents on the scientific community, on the physician nurse community, on the health care community, on this on the, university communities, and the professional journal community creates a kind of disincentives to engaging in self dealing, corruption, and fraud, basically. And, all that's gonna have to be rebuilt. So what I would say to anybody who's getting like, don't get tired. Don't even try to tell me you're getting tired. This is gonna this is a ten year effort. And, if somebody would have told me three years ago that we would be here, three years ago, I would have been we would have been throwing parties. Like, we've made tremendous progress. We're gonna continue to make progress. And, ultimately, until we can, declare victory and get these reprobates, out of these systems, root them out, hold them accountable, and get people back into these systems that actually are worthy of those positions. Some of whom are probably on this call, whether it's state elected office, federal elected office, or appointed positions. People are on this call who will be, will hear the clarion call and answer the call, run for these office, seek appointments, get in there, and clean house. Thank you everybody for everything that you do. Speaker 1: So well said, Brad. It sounds like we're just lining them up lining them up and knocking them down. It's really heartening to hear that progress report. We're getting a lot done. Speaker 6: Brad, were you referring to the Freedom Council in June? And I believe that one is going to be in Colorado. I have been invited to that event. Speaker 10: Thank you. Yes. Your your your details are more accurate than mine, I suspect. I'm in the I'm in the time zone, airplane. I feel like I've been spin dried and hung out to dry. Speaker 13: Brad, thank you for all you that you do. We pray for you every day. You know that. Speaker 10: Thank you very much. And and, I I pray for all of you. None of us are gonna get through this without prayer. There's no question about it. Speaker 1: So right. Lindsey RN, go ahead. Speaker 22: Hi, guys. Just wanna update you. I put in the purple pill in the bottom, some lab results that, I've had done recently, cytokine panel and a monocyte panel. So for me, I am a confirmed, spike protein factory. We had testing done June 2022 where we, tested my monocyte lines, and all three lines were transfected with spike, from the VAX. And I've also had nucleocapsid testing done. So nucleocapsid testing is where they differentiate differentiate between the vaxx and the virus spike. So it was found that I did have vaxx spike and not virus spike in me because I've never had the virus. So I'm still in cytokine storm after two years. There's 11 out of 14 cytokines activated. Each one means something different, but the main one that we are focusing on was the interleukin six. It has been a big, key factor in the injured that we're starting to see, interleukin six, interleukin eight, and the GPCR autoantibodies. So in June 2022, all three lines were infected. We, treated with the protocol that was on from our providers, and we cleared the monocyte lines. And then now this was June, and then we just retested. And, it's back in the monocyte line. So we are there are some of us that are producing spike protein continuously. So that's a problem that we need to learn how to stop. Just wanna update on that. Also, sent out my DNA integration kit this week. Don't know how long till results are back, but I will try to keep you updated as, as I know and go along with the, results. Also sent off microclotintestine, so that will come back this week as well. Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mary Anne. Alright. I just wanted to ask, Lindsey. Yes. I, write a substack, and if you would like to share any of this information in real time for purposes of education Speaker 22: for other people, Speaker 4: I'll be happy to collaborate with you to write one. And I can also send you privately the draft, and you can critique it. And then we can get it to where you would like it to be, and then we can post publish it. So Yeah. That sounds great. And I post all my results. I'm as transparent as possible. Speaker 22: I am confirmed, diagnosed, and documented in my medical charts. It's all over my medical records. I am also part of the CHMBP project. I need to talk to CC one day because she has to do my interview. That's the only thing in my file that we haven't done yet, but everything else is, taken care of. Heard from the CICP. They were wanting updated records on me and also the VAERS, which is a joke because, you know, the VAERS doesn't do shit. But they were wanting updated, records on me, I guess, like, a yearly annual thing. They haven't asked her in a while. So, I didn't know if anybody else had received any emails. I know Danielle. I've talked to you about this and Shelly, but I didn't know if any of you other guys have received anything from VAERS or CICP. Just trying to update on those as well. There is a hearing on Thursday, with the help committee, part of the House of Representatives, and they will be speaking about COVID vaccine injury specifically, and the VAERS and compensation program. So that will be this Thursday, so I'll try to post on that. I think it's live. I'm not I don't think it's closed, but I'm not a 100%. I think that's all I have for updates. Any questions or hey, doctor a. I'll see you in here. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Lindsay. Does anyone has anyone heard back from theirs or or any of the things she she asked about? The only thing they asked was, basically, Speaker 22: are you still recovering or not or dead? That's basically the question they asked. And then they gave you a box to write in, just like a paragraph box to write in what all is still ongoing with you. And, of course, I filled that box up because, you know, we have, like, 30 diagnosis now. So, that's that's pretty much the gist of the what the VAERS email was. I didn't know if anybody else had gotten it. But doctor a, any updates for you on research, side that you could share with me? I'm sorry. You cut out there just a little bit. Could you repeat your question again for a moment? Any updates on your research side that you've come across that may help me in my journey? I know we spoke briefly about the hair thing. My hair is starting to fall back out again, so that's a problem. Speaker 16: Got you. You know, I have a a probiotic from Japan that I'm working with. I was just speaking with a couple of people about it today that's helping a lot of different things. A lot of things, you know, for people, it's so hard to know what what to recommend. And I just posted an a note in the thread that when people come to me, a lot of times and other doctors, they'll go through a series of things to see what might help. And part of the detox, especially if you're continually producing spike, is to cleanse it out of your stool. So the the because the the county and the city can tell when spike levels are going up in a population because they've been sampling the sewage the water the sewage. So they knew before any of the doctors knew that COVID was about to hit a city and get worse because they were testing this the water. So so that's a big hint that if we can minimize spike protein in the stool or get rid of it or detox from it, get it out of your body, then that would probably be a good thing to do. One of the benefits of ivermectin isn't just that it can help the symptoms, get better, but that it's 98% eliminated in the stool. So it helps clear the gut. A lot of people tell me that they have softer stools, more frequent stools, so it can can be and has been a a method of detoxing from spike. Then, of course, you've got the hydroxychloroquine, the vitamin d, the vitamin c. If you can't get your hands on ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, Miriam, Belknap wrote a very sweet, Substack this morning that summarized a bunch of my different, Substack articles. So there's one, what do you do if you don't have ivermectin? What can you use instead of hydroxychloroquine? I have a guidebook to COVID care that has a separate section now. It's and hospital protocols. It includes a lot of the 25 or so items that, that you list on your different websites, but also, includes medical directives with specific instructions of things that you do and do not want, including no remdesivir, etcetera. But it's an actual document that you can sign or or get notarized. So I'm also gonna be updating about Speaker 22: Because we were just talking about our living wills and our advanced directives. Because some of us, our bodies are tiring out and we're and we're in congestive heart failure, and we know the time is coming soon. We're not stupid. We've been at this for three years. And, one of the things that we have been talking about requesting is autopsies with us. And some of the things that we don't know about is how that process works, Speaker 16: and how much and costly. Right. It's also funny you yeah. That you mentioned that because that is what I'm late on my February update. I've been updating my guidebook every month, and that's exactly what I'm gonna be working on is adding a section on how to request an autopsy, how to get somebody to read it. I'm still investigating enough, but that's gonna be, a good tight piece to, you know, try to get, protocolized for everyone so that everybody can get an autopsy if needed. Yeah. Where are all the pathologists that are supposed to be helping us with all of this? You know, a lot of them have been pulling out the three foot long clots, and it's not that hard to take one of those and put it under a microscope and tell everybody that's not a blood clot, you know, because it doesn't look like green grape jelly. Yeah. The why didn't it different composition. Speaker 22: Yeah. The composition was, like, super filled with metals and stuff, but they need to run more analysis. Speaker 16: Mhmm. Exactly. And that's a big part that we're missing is a good pathologist that can take, you know, a library of samples and compare them and and do a study. It's not that hard to to try to organize that. I just haven't been able to find, you know, one person, and I I don't know the pathologist like they know one another. But that's gonna be a piece that I'm working on right now is is autopsies, requesting them, interpreting the readings, and, putting all the results together so that we can make some conclusions. Speaker 22: I've talked to Ryan Cole. Me speak. God bless everybody. I've talked to Ryan Cole too about the autopsies, and, I let him know that I'm very interested in seeing what the vagus nerve is looking like because so many of us have dysautonomia. And I have a feeling that if it's disintegrating the myelin sheath with the other nerves, it's also gonna do with the vagus nerve. And that's our big highway from our belly to our brain. So I feel like the spike is hijacking that highway, and that's why we're seeing these infarcts or lesions that could be on the vagus nerve and causing lots of our problems. Speaker 16: Yeah. That's a that's a very interesting, point, and I know a lot about dysautonomia POTS because I survived it after being unable to stand up for twelve years and being bedridden for that long was partly due to traumatic brain injury, but and also a vertebral artery dissection. So I had a rip in the back of the neck and a artery there. They put me on blood thinners for. But the biggest reason why I couldn't get out of bed was because of the dysautonomia. I would stand up and faint. So I also have in my substack, three or four different articles on dysautonomia, how what the symptoms are, how to diagnose it. I, you know, had the tilt table test done. They don't even do that so much anymore. It's more, just a clinical diagnosis and then how to treat it and then, you know, how I recovered from it because I can walk perfectly fine now, and I don't get dizzy when I stand up, etcetera. Yep. So, on that note, I just I just wanna say that that's why I've compiled my guidebook because I found myself saying the same things over and over and over again to thousands of of patients. And I, frankly, was getting tired, and there wasn't enough time to keep saying the same thing over and over again. That's why I started writing the guidebook. That's why I added the protocols to it and the medical directives, and now I'm gonna carry through with the autopsies also. So thank you guys. Everybody here is working together, and I love seeing that. If anybody, wants a a free paid subscription to my Substack, because I try to make a, a little bit of some, positive effort out there with the funds that go to my nonprofit, to help people that can't afford it, I think there's some witnesses here that I've offered to see people and talk to them and spend time with them without any any cost at all whatsoever, and I do that, because I try to make money for the nonprofit by in other ways that get pulled into one resource. But if anybody wants to pay a free paid subscription to my Substack, I put in the thread there. Just email me. I have a 100%. Anybody, anywhere, anytime who wants a free paid subscription, you just have to ask me at the rebelpatient@substack.com. My email address was with, Substack. So just, let me know how I can help. Keep questioning everything, and, I'm working on another layer here with the autopsies. Thank you. Speaker 4: Could I interject, please? Speaker 1: Go right ahead. Speaker 4: Just wanted to say I highly recommend doctor Aranda's, substack. Excellent information. Very useful. Broken down so nicely so you can find what you're looking for, and it it is in it's easily easy to follow wonderful resources. That's why I included it in my substack today or at least some of the articles that she mentioned. So I went ahead and just now reposted it for everyone. And, doctor Aranda, I'm really sorry to hear that they don't do the tilt table test anymore. Being a physical therapist for almost forty years, I, I guess all the professions are getting kinda slack right now, and it's a shame because without documenting those findings, you don't know when things are improving or when they're worsening. It's it's kinda crazy how things are, but it's it's good to see you, and thank you for all you do, doctor Randa. Speaker 22: Miriam, you can be like me and and not have to do a tilt table and just pass out on your doctor at the visit. You know? Speaker 6: Yeah. Isn't isn't that just Speaker 22: something? Yeah. That's fun. That's good times. I tell you. Yeah. You know, they, Speaker 4: it's just getting crazy. They don't even try to determine what's happening until you end up on the floor in front of them. It's nuts. Speaker 22: Yeah. And while I have you in here, doctor a, I just wanted to and and some of the remdesivir people, I just wanted to bring attention to some of the alarming stuff that we've been seeing in the community. We've been tracking pretty closely now. One thing is brain shrinkage. We're seeing on our follow-up scans, brain volume loss in multiple of us. Danielle, did you get your brain scan? Did did it show decrease in volume on yours? Speaker 6: I had mine done right after after my injury in 2021. They were looking to roll out MS. I didn't have any plaques in it. Okay. I've not had a brain MRI Since then. Speaker 22: Okay. I'd be curious to see what ours was showing since since you we are the ones decompensating. We're also seeing, sperm counts decrease. I do have some 20 and 30 year olds with zero sperm counts y'all now. So I've been advising my vaxxed and unvaxxed to count their sperm, guys, because that's serious, and we're gonna keep an eye on this too. But, yeah, we are seeing that. We're also seeing rapid onset of MS, starting out and presenting as seizures new onset of seizures. And when they scan, they will see, lesion and is MS. So we are seeing that in the white matter. Frontal cortex is where we're seeing a base of it. So you'll most of us have short term memory, speech issues, processing issues, and that's why long term memory is intact and, not been shown. We're starting to see the limbic system, be affected, so you'll see there your behavioral changes. So just be mindful of that as well. Speaker 6: Another thing that seems to be happening, especially with people that have been severely insured, is that we'll have an initial injury. And then a year to two years out, we're having additional injuries. Like, in my case, I went into complete heart disease, heart failure, a year about one and a half year post, initial injury. And now I have two and a half years. My lungs aren't being attacked. So and and it's not related to my heart. And, you know, everyone needs to remember that right before all this, I was at my healthiest active, which most of us were. So all of this is, quote, unquote, doctors, which we obviously know what the problem is, but it's a trend that seems to be happening. Speaker 22: It's like the healthier we were, the more healthy cells that had to attack, and that's what we're seeing. Because I too was I mean, I was tip top shape. I was a college athlete being scouted to go professionally for softball and and start my nursing career. So it was I mean, the only past medical history I have is pollen allergy, and I took daily Claritin four. That's it. No surgeries. No medical history. No primary doctor. When I got sick, I would see the athletic trainer for a cold or, you know, seasonal allergies, whatever. That's it. It's like the healthier you are, the more healthy cells that had to attack and destroy, and that's why we're seeing the most damage. It's sad. Speaker 1: It is. It's just it's absolutely heartbreaking, and it's unfathomable that this experimental drug was mandated on effectively the entire world. They tried to mandate this on the entire world and that it's caused so much harm in your lives is just an indicator of the the exponential effect of that. And I think so many people have been affected by it and and still don't really know, Or they they don't they think maybe it could have been related to the vax, but maybe not. They're not really sure when when there's, you know, thousands of stories of people going through the exact same thing. So it becomes incontrovertible, I think. Speaker 22: Absolutely. Absolutely. Trust me. I wish it wasn't this way. I wish it was not this way at all, and I wish I would never have to even say these words, or even the fact that I even have to have DNA integration testing done. I mean, Jesus Christ. I was just a little country girl from North Carolina minding my own damn business, and this is where we are now. So, I will do my best to be as transparent as possible while still maintaining some privacy in my life. There has been issues with my safety, and dachshund of license and, nasty messages and trolls. Some are even in here. Hey, guys. Nice to nice to meet you and update you. But, yeah, we have to keep those people safe too. My community is aware of what's going on, and they're very, protective of me. And I always say I'm not suicidal. I love my life. And I do have concealed carry permit, and I'm not afraid to defend myself. Speaker 7: Okay. Speaker 1: It's it's so awful that you become a target of hate and potential violence just for just for standing up and saying what was done to you. Yeah. I don't understand that. Yeah. And I'm the nicest fucking person in the world. Like, I would give anybody in this room the shirt off of my back or Speaker 22: a hug or a a talk or anything they needed for that matter. I mean, it's just you put in what you get out, I guess. But some people are very disappointed, and and people need to really repent and think and talk to the Lord because, Speaker 4: he's coming sooner than later. Everybody I'm glad you said that because it is. It's pure evil. Pure evil that we're seeing. It's people who are serving not God. That's for certain. Speaker 22: They're serving the dollar dollar bill, y'all. Speaker 1: So sad. Jeremiah Hozia, if you would like to say a few words, we'd like to hear from you. And he dropped. Speaker 22: He may be glitching. He, he's good on he's got a podcast, and he's had some major heavy hitters, from the freedom movement on there. He's a very nice man. He comes in the lounge and checks on us and sees if there's anything that he can help with. So we we like him. We'll keep him. Speaker 1: Yeah. He's been on our spaces before, and we we really enjoy hearing from him. I hope he's able to, get back on and request Mike. Until he does, Gigi, would you like to say a few words? Speaker 24: Yes. I just wondered I know some of the vaccine injured is tragically probably too far gone, but have you all listened to doctor Brian Artis and his research on the nicotine patch that's supposed to be that supposedly kills the, the venom, the snake venom that's in the shots. Have you heard about that? Speaker 22: Yes. We've we've heard and we've tried. Some have had good success with it. Some have not. Like you said, some of us are so damaged, it won't even touch us. But, yes, thank you. Speaker 23: Can I can I interject really quick? I have to tell you that, I really think that's why I'm I'm a survivor because I'm a smoker. I smoke, you know, I smoke cannabis. I've been a smoker since I was a young girl, but as an adult and especially when I was sick after getting vaccinated, You know, I I I didn't go to I don't go to doctors anymore. I just wanna be clear about that. I don't go to doctors. So, like, I don't know all the statistics and everything that's going on with my blood and how much by protein I'm producing, but I know that there's still some in my system, but like I said, I I do my best to fight it with what I can, and cannabis has been one of the things that has helped me. And although it's hard for me because I struggle with it just because of my my faith in God, and I want him to have the glory for the reason why I was, you know, getting better. That is one of the things that I use. Speaker 22: That is one of the things Don't be ashamed. There's a plant. There's a medicine. He put it there for us to to use. Yeah. We also have endocannabinoid system in our body. So when it enters into the THC, Speaker 23: it connects to those receptor sites, and so the spike can't connect. So you're Well, I gotta tell you. I I'm I'm living proof of it. I'm living proof of it because I was a sick I hear and it breaks my heart to hear the coheirs nurse talking because I was like that. I was like her. I couldn't even talk. I I couldn't stand or walk or for very long. I couldn't even go grocery shopping, and it it was very hard, you know, in those first in the first year of of life after getting out of the hospital and losing my spouse and but that was the thing right there. Ivermectin, and I would smoke me a blunt. That is what got me through those days. And I don't know, you know, if anybody else has tried that, but I wanna be, you know, transparent about what I have done. And, today, I can go to the store. I can walk around in the grocery store. I can, take my daughter to the park. You know? I I I do a lot of other things too. I take cayenne pepper. I take, I'm doing part of, doctor McCullough's protocol. I do some of that. But, it's all followed by, you know, I have to have an hour session because, you know, I start to feel I start to feel, the neurological part where my legs will twitch randomly. I'll get stabbing, bee sting pains in my arms, in my back, in my legs. Those are the things that I I struggle with, along with, you know, periods that are just heavy blood clots. It's hard. You know? That that's the part I'm still struggling with. But in the beginning, when I learned about ivermectin, I was taking ivermectin every week along with what I smoke on a daily basis. So this lifestyle, is what I am doing to maintain and gain control of my health because I went into the doctor's office after I got my shots and I was sick and told them. And they said, they they didn't even they acted like I didn't say nothing. There's no various report that I've made. Nobody cared when I went into my doctor's office to tell them that I had felt like I was vaccine injured. They did not acknowledge it. They still don't. But I am off of the insulin because, last last year, April, I was in kidney failure. I was, put on insulin and all the diabetic medication. And, you know, I'm off of insulin right now. I'm off of insulin. I'm getting off of all of my medications because I'm doing natural herbs, natural remedies. Right now, I'm trying something from Mexico. It's called Amparo Azul, and I'm drinking that tea on a daily basis. And and I'm finding the results for me. You know? It's not for everybody, but, you know, I can't afford a lot of the things that they're doing here because I just you know, after my wife died, yeah, we lost everything too. You know? We we we fall into that category, but I don't have all the money to go to the doctors and see these doctors. I I have had to go back to my roots and and find what medicines, they were using when there wasn't doctors with white coats. And, is a kidney bark. It promotes, kidney function, stabilizes your insulin, overall overall health. And, I've been drinking it now for about two weeks, and, I could tell you that I feel like I could run a marathon. I feel like I can just get up and go, you know, kinda before all of this happened. And, you know, I'm very thankful. I'm very like I said, I'm very thankful to everyone here because if it hadn't have been for the support girls, it hadn't been for people speaking out. It had been I wouldn't know the things that I did not own the hospital. They gaslit us. They told us and made us believe that ivermectin was what we were getting. You know? Because I I we we thought ivermectin was the scary drug. You know? And the lady's telling me, well, you know, not very many people can get this medication with and if you don't get it now, you know, you could die. This is what the nurses were telling us. Of course, we were scared for our lives. Of course, we were gonna say, give us anything you can give us to save our lives. Who's not gonna say that? So after learning everything that I learned from you all here, you know, I'm here to tell you. This is what I did. This is how I got better. And, cannabis is one of them. It's on the list of the medications that I take. And, you know, if it can help anybody, you know, try it. I I would highly recommend. Speaker 6: And I want to make sure I transfer. I have good days, and I have bad days, and we I'm still a way that it works for all of us. Our good days are good, and our bad days are worse, and it just absolutely sucks. Speaker 22: Yeah. And and here lately, we've been having lots of pending doom feeling. Some of us are scared to go to sleep because we're scared that we're not gonna wake up. Our heart rate's in our in our forties, and it's just we've built this community where, you know, we're family, and we're here to support each other. And that's what we're gonna do to Laura's last breath. We fought this far, and we we're not gonna stop. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And that's that's I mean, how can you stop when you're fighting such a great evil? Stopping isn't an option, but, but I am so glad that people are finding ways to, to take action and, and speak out and do something about what's been done. It's just awful. Deborah, are you are you able to, tell us some more about what happened to you? I know you kinda broke down earlier. It's very hard to talk about. But if if you want to, please go ahead. Speaker 21: Well, one of the things I wanted to bring up because we're talking about so much of the treatments that we're looking for to to get us through what we need to get through. One of the things is that we have insurance and all the the things that can help us. That's another thing that needs to be fixed because we have insurance, but not the insurance won't pay for any of that. Where you know what I'm saying? They a lot of these supplements and things that will help us get better or get through things. You have we're paying out of pocket on top of our insurances, and so that's something that needs to absolutely be changed. Because so many people cannot get help if you don't have any money and you you can't get the supplements or whatever, then you're you're still being punished no matter how you look at it. So that's something that I think that really needs to be hit hard too as insurances because this is insane that we're paying the amounts that we're paying for nothing because nobody wants to go to the doctor anymore. So why should they get the money? So that was one thing I wanted to really bring up because I'm hearing everybody. Speaker 22: Yeah. Some of our insurance Hello, Deborah. Fired us. Speaker 23: Hello? Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Is this I was gonna It's fine. Go ahead. Wanted to tell you, Deborah, that I learned from Carolyn, and maybe you can get on one of those meetings. There she's introducing the Impact House Sharing, and, that's something that I'm gonna be looking into. That is a way to get out of the insurance matrix because I'm on access, and I'd rather what I pay for, the medications and everything I get now. It's just it's just amazing. It's just amazing. I I attended one of the meetings, and Speaker 21: I'm sold. I I wanna get I can't get off of access quick enough and get on to this impact off quick enough. Well, I list I'm I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt, but I did listen to all that. But some of us are on Medicare, and we don't have any choice. So, you know what I mean? And we're at that point where I'm in mine's through my husband, you know, being through general, which, of course, I'm and mine, I'm on disability. So, I I have I'm on Medicare, so it's like and then I have to pay for my my extra. But my whole point of it was it's not just about me. I'm talking about overall. It's it's another broke system. You know? I mean, because it was individual insurance, I think, is different than that. And I I mean, I'm not an insurance expertise except that I think it's extortion, but that's me. So so that's why I was just saying about the the supplements. I think it's the right idea and what I've looked into and what I'm taking. I think we're they're on the right track. I'm just saying, on top of everything else now, you gotta pay for that because it costs. Speaker 23: But it's right. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. You're right. Speaker 1: Absolutely. Gigi, did you wanna say something? Speaker 24: Yes. I had a question for the doctor. When I after my husband was murdered, our entire family that lived here in the house got COVID. Not from him, though. It was, like, three weeks later. And I have COPD, so I was high risk. So they had me do that infusion. Does that do you know if that has any bad stuff in it, like the vaccines? Speaker 16: The you're talking about the monoclonal antibodies, probably? Yes. Is that the uh-huh. So I originally okay. So just backing up a little bit. The monoclonal antibodies were supposed to be against the spike protein, And I prescribed them, and they were difficult to get in California. They were easier to get in Florida. Then the government took away all the monoclonal antibodies from Florida and spread them out across the rest of the country. Pretty much around the time, I think maybe just a few months, a lot of my patients, were unvaccinated, and they were going to the monoclonal antibody clinic. Some of them were free. Some of them pay you had to pay for. You had to pay cash. Some of them would come to your house and do infusions for cash. And nobody had an adverse reaction, and almost everybody got better. Actually, one patient got mad at me, the very first one I ever sent anywhere, because it was so new that the people there, like, said she should have sent you earlier. Well, I didn't what are you talking about? Like, none of us even know about it. So, you know, he was early, actually, but he survived. And I think clinically, people had good results. Later, after about four months of my doing that, I learned, doctor Carrie Madesh did a did a talk on them saying that they were a conflict of interest for people who were not wanting to get a vaccine because they were made from research, derived from fetal cells. And she described that those fetal cells were not just, you know, like an abortion, like a normal abortion. She said that the babies were actually born live and then carried live to the lab around the corner and sacrificed either by opening the chest or injecting with something, but otherwise, pretty much killing them on the table and then harvesting their kidneys. So the cell line is the HEK two seventy six, I think, which or 293, which represents the right? Yeah. The number of babies that were sacrificed. Speaker 22: Melissa McAtee, the father's blower, will say the same thing about the HEK cells, and they that's what they used was the, fetal tissue cells. Speaker 16: Right. So I stopped prescribing them as soon as I knew that that was possibly their origin, and I researched it enough too to realize that that was it's the same thing as getting a vaccine. So why would I trust one and not the other? So I stopped doing it, and then I let everybody know that that's why I did stop it. And then all of a sudden, nobody could get them anymore. There is no studies that I know of on people that had the monoclonal antibodies and whether they also have developed any other sequelae, but none of my patients that had the monoclonal antibodies have come back to me, you know, like the post vaccine saying, I know this is what did it, or I got sick after that happened. There's nobody that I know of, and I don't know anybody else who has had any clinical complaints after getting, the monoclonal antibodies. Speaker 24: Thank you. So you mean I have murdered baby cells in me now? Speaker 16: You know, we probably all do from all the vaccines we've ever had in our whole entire life. Like, we don't know what what they've been doing to us all these years. Right? But the I'm glad I have an opportunity to answer that question because all the doctors gave up on me. I felt like I was dying every single day. I went to sleep at night, and I didn't know if I would wake up in the morning. I actually lived some days you know, they say, oh, just take it one day at a time. That was way too long for me, and I was bedridden for twelve years, if you don't know my story. After a car accident, a lady twirled us in a circle after hitting me and my two year old daughter at 90 miles an hour. My daughter school instead of being a doctor, and I think that's perfect for, you know, for the health care profession as it is right now. But, I couldn't pick her up when she was two. She I couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't stand up. I couldn't do anything. If it wasn't for my having long term care health insurance, long term care and being able to have insurance pay for a full time twenty four seven caregiver for twelve years, I would have died. But I will say too that God healed me. I had a near death experience. I went to the stairway to heaven. God let me I asked him if I could come back. I wasn't ready to leave my daughter. And then I actually gradually gradually got completely healed. So I'm a survivor. I I believe in miracles. I know God still provides miracles. Any fetal baby cells that you and I may have inside of us are not gonna hurt us. They are not stronger than God's power in our bodies. God has given us a a spirit, of of, you know, his holy spirit to lead us and guide us, also to comfort us. And if you can rest in some comfort, and sometimes, yes, look at the clock and live an hour later. I wrote my no more tears book, and then I wrote the rebel patient while I was still sick in bed. And I was too sick to fight when I wrote no more tears. All I could do was believe in God. But once I got to the point where I would fight, I learned that my words and my choices, especially my words, had to speak life into my life because God created the universe with his words, and he said, let there be light. So I also Yes. I believe that. Amen. Amen. Right? So I'm just gonna pray. I'm just gonna pray right now for everybody. I speak life into your life. I ask God to touch you where you are right now and fill you with his holy spirit. Did you call me? I'm sorry. I cut out a little bit. This is Laura. Yeah. I ask god to fill you with light and life with his holy spirit. I ask him to make all your supplements, all your medications work better than they're supposed to, and I ask him to heal you gradually, gradually, gradually so that each day, you're you wake up in the morning and you open your eyes, you know you're alive. And each evening when that sun goes down, you thank God that you got to see the sun go down again. And each day brings you a brand new life, and trust me when I say, you appreciate your life more than most people do, and God is working in you through that appreciation. So don't give up on yourself. I'll tell you, I I could I had to crawl. I couldn't stand up. I couldn't do anything. I was a blob. And now I garden. I do everything, and and I'm not special, really. I'm not. Everything I did to help everybody during COVID should have been normal, should have been what every single doctor on the planet was doing for everybody. I'm not special. I just know the difference between right and wrong, and I serve God and not man. And I believe that we lost God in medicine. We lost him. We lost natural herbs. We we lost what he gave us on this planet. And if we can get back to that and and put him first and and ask him, what am I what am I supposed to learn? What am I supposed to do? God caused me, allowed me to suffer so that I would know what to say to you. I had to suffer. Nobody here suffered for twelve years. That just is hard right there, what you just said. I did. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you, doctor. I totally agree. Can do it. Yeah. If I can do it, you'll be one of the best doctors. Yes. You have to live for God. There's no other way to do it. God's power is bigger than any doctor. God doesn't have to. Your doctors don't have to know what's wrong with you because God already does. If you go straight to the source, the creator who knew you in the womb before you were born, there's no other he is the master creator. He made our bodies to heal themselves. I don't know how my brain got better. I never in my life as a doctor did I ever have one single patient tell me I was smart. And I can tell you just yesterday, somebody was telling me they can't believe how smart I am. Like, my brain injury is maybe smarter than I ever was. Like, not and my patients would constantly tell me that. And how did that happen? How did I get a smart brain when I couldn't even say the word the? I couldn't walk. I couldn't talk. I couldn't think. I didn't know what was happening around me. I couldn't form words or a sentence. And now you can't. So just have faith. Trust. Believe in miracles. Don't accept anything. You've got a baby to live for. You've got children to live for. Fuck. You better watch what people say to you. Don't let a doctor say you're never gonna get better. No, doctor. I'm sorry. You build a wall around you, and you don't you take that arrow and you put your shield up and say, no. I don't accept that. I don't accept that. And in your mind, fire them and say, I'm never gonna go back again. You go find somebody else. I went to 24 doctors before I found one doctor who knew I had dysautonomia. Nobody knew what it was that back then. Everybody knows what it is now. So everybody who's listening has that great advantage right there. And if if I if I could get over it, you can too. So I wish you know, I'd love to have a space just on dysautonomia and nothing else. But I did put in there a bunch of my articles that I have written on it. So, there's a bunch of steps tax. I went each one is long but comprehensive. Please be empowered. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And there is, a link to Miriam's article about doctor Margaret Aranda, pinned to the top of the space. So check that out and follow-up on all those amazing things she was just telling us about. Laura, I think you had some technical difficulties when you were trying to speak before. If you'd like to try again, take the mic. Floor is yours. Laura, go ahead. You have to unmute yourself. Maybe still having some technical difficulties. Sherry, did you wanna say a few things? Speaker 14: Well, I don't know if I can Speaker 5: follow-up on all that. I got I might get into a rant about the government and the evil that we're facing, because I don't think it's just our government. I'm pretty sure we can blame it on, outside forces too, outside of our country, I mean. Although, I mean, if we get into the the religious side of it and talk about Satan and evil, that's definitely there too. I don't I I don't know what to say right now because this has been very Speaker 22: frightening. Back to you. There's a spiritual battle and an information battle going on. Yeah. Revelations is playing out before our eyes. Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. I listened to a gentleman No. I listened to it this evening, but his his show was yesterday. And he I don't know a lot about the Bible, so you're just gonna have to bear with me. And I know he always preaches the old testament, but he was talking about this eclipse that's coming up in April, the first week in April, and he's thinking that based on the Bible, we're going into seven years of lean. I'd like to see us figure this out before that happens. But, you know, we've got our our economy is getting ready to do a collapse into CBDCs. They're gonna they're gonna force us into so many corners here very soon. COVID, I think, was the first domino, and they're tumbling. And I hope that Brad is right. I hope that Brad is right when he says that he sees movement, positive movement. But I don't know if it's gonna be fast enough. I just I don't know that personally, me, I want somebody to pay. I wanna see them on the gallows. That's my whole thing. I wanna see somebody on the gallows, and I'd like to help them get there because we've got all these wonderful people who were doing their job and helping their patients or, you know, whatever job they were doing. They were forced into these shots, which it it looks like they were supposed to die, and now it's, in some cases, happening very slowly. We've got family members and friends like my husband who it took him three weeks to kill him, and he was one of the lucky ones because he died pretty quick comparatively when Heidi's friend Lupe took her fifty seven days. It's just the things they have done to people, what what they have done to hue to humans, their fellow humans with no kind of guilt, concern, remorse. None of it. And we have to, what, just pretend like it didn't happen? That's not no. No. We're not gonna pretend that it didn't happen. Don't know what our answers are. But I'm certainly hoping that we can we can move the ball faster would be nice. Yes, we need to move the ball faster because too many people are still dying in hospitals needlessly by doctors and nurses who are absolutely cult members right now, insanely assigning the protocols to people who aren't even sick. Oh, you twisted your ankle? Let me give you a COVID test. They're not even sick, and they're getting these poisons dumped on them. And it's a combination of that cult and the mainstream media hiding all the evidence so that they don't even have an idea that they've got, they've basically got a big target on their back the minute you walk in that emergency room. Or if you're going in because you're getting a surgery and it's in and out, but they wanna do the COVID test before they do the surgery. You're entering the hospital for something that was planned, and you never leave again. And these are the kind of things we have to to try to tell our friends and neighbors who think we're nuts. They think we're nuts and all we're trying to do is just pay attention. Look. Read this article. Watch the show. You know, here if you look at this in-depth on this this particular, you know, left leaning magazine and just look at these three sentences right here, and it doesn't make you know, there's evidence everywhere, but we're not able to get some of our friends and neighbors to see it. It's mind boggling. So Speaker 2: Can I chime in on that just for a second? Sure. Please. When we were we were at, in San Antonio, we were outside and having a little bit of, a little protest outside a hospital. We experienced exactly what you're just talking about. Strangers pulled up, and they had a cousin in this particular hospital there who had broken his ankle. And they drove from another town to get where we were, so a three hour drive. So it wasn't a short drive, to try to help him and and get him out of there. And they figured out that the hospital did exploratory surgery on him, and they cut him from the neck all the way down. And this family is telling us, and we're a little bit in I was in shock. I was like, for a broken ankle, I'm not sure how that relates to a broken ankle. And her exact words were, if we don't get him out of here, he's gonna die. Speaker 5: You You mentioned this, I believe, at last week's. Yeah. And I'm I'm still trying to figure out Speaker 6: what did they do surgery on that man for? Speaker 2: I I that's why they were panicking. They were trying to get him out of there, and we we were just shocked. It it was and what was so disheartening about it, you know, so we were trying to give some assistance with that or, you know, maybe see if somebody in the group can maybe help. Right? And then it wasn't even five minutes later, and we had another family that was asking what we were doing out there. And we were just, you know, saying we don't support the use of remdesivir, and it's lethal and, you know, kind of those things and try to, like, educate them about medical freedom and choices and stuff like that. And I'm telling you, five minutes later, another family pulls up and says the exact same thing, that they had a loved one there. They don't agree with the treatment of this hospital. They feel they get better care at a different hospital, but that hospital was refusing to release them. And I said, if you had been here five minutes earlier, you would have met another family with the exact same story. It it was it was crazy. Speaker 5: I I don't, I don't agree with the, they won't release him. It's not a prison. It's a hospital. They're not there because they're incarcerated. And I know I understand to a certain degree back in 2020 when CMS waived all patients' rights. They just waived them. The hospital, in their defense, what their thought processes supposedly were, and I'm really wondering how far they gamed it out in all honesty, but their thought processes supposedly were that the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed. There wasn't going to be enough staff to handle everything. So, therefore, we have to just take all considerations for normal operating procedures to go right out the window because the nurses and the technicians will not be able to answer all of the calls right away, so we're going to take all the patients, patients rights away, and there was even a part of that edict was you can take it off your website and you can take it if you've got signage within the hospital, you can take that down if you choose. It wasn't a mandate. It was a potential. You can weight it, and many of the hospitals did take advantage of it. Now keep in mind, the majority of the hospitals that are following these edicts are the ones who are approved for CMS billing. If the if you happen to have a hospital in your area that, does not accept Medicare and Medicaid and you have to go to a hospital, that's the one you wanna go to because that's where the money is predominantly going and they're following the instructions of CMS because if they don't follow those instructions from CMS, other potential potential that's the thing. It's like the mafia saying it's a really nice little bodega you got here. Be a shame if it burned down. So the CMS is like saying, look, if you don't follow our instructions, we're gonna have to pull your funding. So you if you are needing to go to the hospital, find out who in your neighborhood doesn't accept Medicare and Medicaid. Speaker 22: Also found out if they're up for magnet status. That was a big thing with us because on the East Coast, our hospital was up for reapplying for magnet status, and one of the criteria was, how many, employees to be vaccinated. And, also, Laura, you'll be interested to hear this. The vice president of our research and innovations guy, his prior job before coming to our facility was, master clinical scientist with Pfizer. It's it's It's Speaker 5: the weed. Leo All I can all I can say is it's like a, you know, it's like a circle jerk in a hot tub. Holy crap. They're all related to each other. Yeah. Yeah. And then we have our government, and that's another whole totally different story. But, Speaker 22: I can't believe Speaker 5: and I I shouldn't I don't I give it a business point because you can't If you don't, I mean and I'm sitting here thinking, if I say what's on my mind, the FBI will be at my front door tomorrow instead of maybe next week. Because I'm thinking, how the hell has somebody not lost their mind totally and gone back into a hospital when they realized what happened to their loved one? Speaker 2: Can I share one more story that when my coworkers okay? So one of one of my coworkers came up to me the other week, and they have a family member who has, like, a blood disorder. So she had to go to the hospital. So she she took her to the hospital, and, you know, they were giving her treatment. Well, she wasn't getting any better. So the doctor literally came and not COVID, not a COVID patient. And the doctor comes in and says, you're gonna die. That was, like, initially, you're gonna die. And then she was like, y'all just need to give her treatment like you usually do. She's you know, we're super confused. And then they they started to to panic about leaving her there because, initially, that's that's the approach the doctor said. What they figured out is that the family member wasn't healing in the time frame that the hospital felt she should heal. So they got the impression that they the hospital did not wanna deal with her. So they found a different hospital to to to transfer her family member to, and they did. And that hospital they got transferred to, they literally asked her, oh, did such and such hospital tell you were gonna die? Is that why you're here? And, she said, yeah. And she said, yeah. If if you don't heal at that hospital within certain time frame, they don't wanna deal with you. They wanna get rid of you. Speaker 20: So Speaker 5: there you go. So so my question my question then is so if she had not transferred, were they gonna get rid of her? Speaker 22: I mean, Meanwhile, they do the opposite for site patients. They keep them for years and months at a time, Speaker 5: like, housing them. Then I hear we've got so many on the street. She they told her that she was gonna die, and she's fine. She's out of the hospital, and she's recovered. So Well and and, you know, I don't know. I've I kind of had a conversation on Twitter today with a couple of people. And, I we know. Lisa, you know. Jenny knew. Anybody that's on the CHBMP that's listened to these conversations, when our our loved ones, at some point, the conversation turned to palliative or comfort care. And we didn't understand. And many of the records, the family members are standing at the bedside, and a nurse comes in and puts a shot into the IV, and within ten minutes, that loved one is gone. And it and we've had people say, it's like they scheduled the time of day. The day and the time were scheduled out and they made sure it happened. Now I'm not saying that that patient would have survived because my this is the same thing that happened with my husband. They had done enough damage to him. He wasn't going to survive. But they chose when and made sure it happened. There's a wonderful interview, that Scott Shera did with a man who started the was was part of the starting of the hospice movement in The United States. And he talks about who bought his original, group of people who bought that that business and then who bought that business and then who bought that business and and their, their different philosophy where it became less about a, a a less painful or chaotic time for the dying person and supportive time for the person, and letting God choose when that person left. That's that was what his training had initially taught him and it became more about, well, we're gonna be efficient about this because of insurance. To your point from earlier, the insurance drives a lot in the hospital, so the hospitals sometimes get creative if they can't move that patient out of the hospital to another facility, like a hospice facility, a rehab facility, what they call a step down unit. They can change the status of the patient if the family agrees to it. They change the status of the patient into palliative or comfort care. The room doesn't change. The nurses don't change. You know, nothing has changed physically, but the family has agreed to this, and they choose a day and a time. Speaker 21: No. Speaker 5: And that's it's all over the CHBMP. I mean, you want regular people to tell you what happened? It's right there. Can I say something on that, though? I'm I'm yeah. You're welcome too. I'm just there it is. And CBS has done an a complete blow by blow on this because one woman blew the whistle, and for some reason, a local CBS channel actually did the story, and they wanted her daughter to die. They kept telling her she needed to be on either palliative or comfort care. I forget the terminology they used for that particular instance. And she absolutely refused, and they stood. There were six of them around her daughter's bed, who was, like, 32. And they said she's going to die. You need to choose this. And she absolutely refused, and her daughter sitting next to her talking to the news reporter. And then the news reporter found out that when the insurance starts to run out, the hospital wants them off the books. And if they change that status and the and the patient stays in the hospital and they change the status, then the mortality, the mortality statistic doesn't count against the hospital anymore. It counts against the hospice or palliative care team, and it's totally different then. And then the CEO continues to get his bonuses for keeping his mortality statistics down. Speaker 22: Bingo. Nailed it. Ding, ding, ding. Speaker 6: You are absolutely correct on that. Once they change and hospice, quote, unquote, takes over, that death is not recorded by the hospital. It falls under hospice in the hospice. Medical directors, are sometimes then responsible for the death certificate versus the hospital. So absolutely, you nailed it. Yeah. It's on the head when it comes to that. All about Speaker 5: the money. And when Obamacare came in, the doctors running the hospitals were no longer doctors. Now it's the bean counters who are there to make a profit, and this has happened long enough ago that the rot has settled into the hospitals. It's now about money. It's not about the community. It's not about humanity. It's not about healing people. It's a business. We're here to earn money, and you guys are in the way. Speaker 22: And we're just your number. Speaker 6: And a lot of people don't know. You do not have to be a DNR to be on hospice care. We accepted people without a DNR onto hospice care multiple, multiple times. Speaker 5: But now, like in the Scherer case, the Scherer case is prime example because he's they've done they've been very open about everything they've found out. In the state of Wisconsin, Grace was was made a DNR without without approval of her parents, even though she was a disabled, a Down syndrome child at the age of 19. She was her parents refused to have a DNR placed on her, but the hot the the doctor placed it immediately upon hanging up from talking to them the morning she died. He he placed the DNR in the computer. Now, according to what they they've been told, when Grace began dying and the family is screaming, save my daughter, save our daughter, And the nurses are going, we can't. She's DNR. They can override that. Supposed to be able to override it, but the but the nurses refused. They would not enter the room. And when when the parents found out that the DNR had been placed, and it was only because their older daughter was there and she was begging for nurses to help. And the and the nurse pulls her over to the computer, points at the computer, and says, she's DNR. It's right here. And the parents were going, she's not DNR. We never approved that. Save our daughter. And there's because they're on an iPad. They're screaming from home. Both of them have COVID and can't come in. He had been removed from the hospital by armed guard days before. That has been very debilitating. This is the kind of stuff that makes you crazy when you start hearing about it. So and then they find out Grace keep in mind, Grace never had remdesivir. She was never on a ventilator. But they've got the timeline on their website that shows how many sedatives she received that day and shows that she was actually sedated to death. Speaker 4: Sherry, didn't it show that within twenty minutes of him placing the DNR on the doctor placing DNR on, they gave her, I believe, PresidEx and another contraindicated Speaker 5: medication together within twenty minutes of each other, which is what caused her to brady down and die? Well, that was the very yeah. It was immediately afterwards when I but but she had been on Presodex at that point Speaker 6: for Speaker 4: four days. That's what we get probably. Right. They gave her a piece of four days worth of PresidEx and they're you're only supposed to have it once or twice. Oh, you Plus they gave her a second Yep. Plus they gave her a second medication within twenty minutes of the PresidEx. Speaker 6: Which caused her nausea to drop. But it was morphine. Was getting spread. Speaker 22: Yep. Speaker 6: Doing a respiratory depression. Yep. Not really what happened. Familiar with the amount of medications they gave Grace, and it is absolutely egregious how much they gave her. Yep. And it it I think in her case, there were because you have to have two doctors that make her a DNR. Yeah. Because Speaker 5: she had the disability. In the in the in the in the Wisconsin statutes. An investigative reporter found this out while he was doing research for an article he was read writing up for Scott, had come and done an interview with him, and then started doing some research. He found out that in Wisconsin, legally, they can put a a single doctor can put a DNR on a patient without anybody's consent anywhere in the hospital except the Speaker 22: ER. Yep. If you're in the ER, because I worked ER and I see you, you are CPR until you bring me your golden ticket until I see it in my hand. You are CPR. So this is what happened there. And then also in the OR too, I think, like, in PACU in the OR. I'm not interested in that case. Speaker 5: He's been adamant about it when he's done interviews and or on his podcast. He said everywhere in the hospital, a DNR can be placed by a doctor unilaterally without any kind of consent from anybody, patient or family, except the ER. And when we go back to euthanasia, in Obamacare, I cannot tell you exactly what he can tell you, but I can find it. There is a particular page in Obamacare that states that if a doctor does not want to work in the hospital or perform euthanasia, they cannot have retribution from their employer. It doesn't state that you will be doing euthanasia, but it says that if the doctor refuses to do a euthanasia, he cannot have retribution against him or her. Speaker 1: So if if the doctor refuses to do the thing that is illegal in The United States, the the hospital can't retaliate against the doctor. That makes sense. That's exactly what it says. I've looked at it. I've got a copy of it somewhere on my computer because I did a screenshot. Speaker 4: Yeah. That was the whole controversy of people talking about desk panels back then, and nobody wanted to believe that it was true. Exactly. It was it was in the bill. And there it is. Sarah Palin was right. Yes. Sarah Sarah and Michelle Bachman. Speaker 5: They both said it was gonna happen. And, of course, like all of the rest of us conspiracy theorists what what are we at? 468 to zero here? Speaker 1: Anyway I guess We're batting a thousand. Speaker 22: Mhmm. My mom Yeah. Speaker 1: We do have a queue if, Laura is able to take herself off mute and speak. She is next, and then we have Shell, Patrick, and Melissa in that order. Laura, gonna try this one more time. I know you've been having some tech issues tonight, but we would love to hear from you if you're able to take yourself off mute. And if you can't, we'll just circle back to you. Speaker 4: Shell, go ahead. Speaker 25: Good evening, everyone. I hope everyone's doing good. Most of you know me. I'm Pfizer vaccine injured. January was my third year of my injury. I'm still a a spike factory machine. Had all the blood work done at, doctor Vaughn's with a lot of other testing that should have been done years ago. Still living this nightmare, but I had an update on what's going on with me, not physically, but, you know, I worked in the hospital and everything else. I was out on disability. They gave me short term, but they wouldn't give me long term. I finally got my disability through the state worked out or whatever it's called. And, this week, I got a letter from my job that I worked at a hospital, that they are terminating me next week because they didn't give me my long term disability. All of a sudden, I get a letter in the mail or through email that I'm being terminated finally, and I'm not gonna have my insurance after the fifteenth anymore, which sucks for me because I the week after that, I was supposed to have IVIG, which would have been my thirty fifth month. That I sit in the fusion center for six hours. So I'm not gonna have the funds because as we all know, IVIG is about it run the my insurance is charged $15,000 a month, and that's without me sitting at the infusion center and being having that bill at the infusion center because I always had to order my We gotta switch you to sub q. I have a prescription for sub q now. I got it Speaker 22: Is it cheaper? Speaker 25: At least I don't know because I was gonna do one more month of gamma guard intravenous, and then I was gonna go the following month, find a specialty pharmacy so I can get my sub q. Now I don't have insurance. That's just part of the things that I'm going through right now. I don't know how I'm gonna afford my medicine. I'm trying to get an attorney to help me, hopefully, to do, like, a workman's comp. I don't know if it's too late, the statute of limitations or anything else. I know in March, that would be my three years that I was admitted for the first time in the hospital, for this injury. So I'm upset. I'm devastated. I haven't had a check since September because we were trying to get my long term disability appealed. So, anyway, Speaker 22: I am They've denied both of mine, and they fired me after a year of being on medical, unable to return medically with eligibility for rehire since I had a perfect record in twelve years. Well, I am Mother with you, baby. I'll help you if I can. Out of luck. Excuse me. Speaker 25: And we are needing attorneys big time. I'm like, I know that they're gonna try to go after Workman's compensation. I have no idea if if it's possible. I'm praying because maybe that'll help me until other lawsuits happen. I'm praying, but this is just some of the stuff that the vaccine injured are going through, and we're losing everything. I have to look for a new place to live and everything else. So keep rooting for us. Keep praying for us, you know, along the ones that lost their loved ones. We're desperate. We need help, and we'd appreciate anything that you can do for us. But I'm just gonna let you know that I have been depressed. I have not left the house since I found out, and, I'm hurricane shell, but these last couple days, I haven't felt like it. I'm gonna continue to speak out and still do the things that I need to do to fight for all of us. I don't have time to take a break. I got things coming up the next couple of months through the summer. So I'm just getting tired, and I'm sounding desperate tonight, but all of us are. So, anyway, that's my update. And, all of you, you're in my prayers. Thank you. Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Tell you. Speaker 22: You can come to North Carolina if you need to. You know that. My house is always open. Speaker 25: You couldn't put up with me. Speaker 22: Dude, could you imagine the same two of us? At least we'd be, like, a whole person. Like, hey, Sheila. I can't get out of bed today. Can you, like, help me crawl to the bathroom or wash my hair or sponge bathe me maybe? So that would that would actually be good. So if you do need to come, it's it's open for you. Speaker 25: You just want me to do the sponge bath. I'm sorry. I had the jokes make me laugh. Speaker 22: That's it. That's exactly what I do. Speaker 1: It's just criminal. They offered y'all free hamburgers and, you know, all these incentives to take this thing, and your job's mandated that you take this experimental drug. And now that you're injured, no there's no recourse for you. There's no free hamburger. Speaker 22: There's no nothing. It's it's so horrible. I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Who are you? Did who are you? Did you ever work for us? I'm sorry. Were you nominated for a Daisy award right out of being a new grad in the COVID, pandemic or critical care nurse of the month for that matter? They don't care. We're just a number. I miss my patients so much. Like, I wish I could go back to the bedside. And I left my nursing license active just in case I ever do get better. I mean, I could, you know, throw a wish in the well, but let's be honest. Yeah. I miss my patients. And it sounds like the medical field has gone rogue, and and there are so many errors being made, and it's disgusting. It really is. Speaker 25: I miss my patients, but I don't wanna ever go back to the medical field again. I'm done. Yeah. It has me Speaker 22: and that's a shame because that was I mean, that's why I did it. My mom died when I was 17. She had a heart attack. I had to do CPR on my own mother and, like, watch her go to the same ICU I worked in where I was born and raised and, had to take her off life support three days later. That's this is why I became a nurse and why I'm the way I am because I wanna help people. And that's why I got the shot was to help people because I was being told I was gonna kill granny, and people couldn't breathe. And, you know, nobody knew what the fuck was going on. Nobody knew. We did what we did with what we had with the information that we had at the time. We did the best we could. I know we need to not be so hard on ourselves, but some of us still that are healing, we haven't had time to grieve our old lives, like our able-bodied life where we can get out of bed or, you know, take a shower, cook a meal, do stuff, you know, stuff that we do daily that we take granted that we don't think about. We need to be thankful for those things that we still can do. And I'm glad that you guys have dealt this, alongside the vaccine community because we really need it. We've been abandoned, for three years, and so have you guys. And it's time that people acknowledge us, first of all, and it's time they fucking researched us. There's so much evidence and data that they've missed on us because they're not looking. You could argue about these fucking shots all day long till you're blue in the face. We all know they're not good. They need to be pulled. They need to be stopped. Anybody with a common sense should say, hey. Something's not fucking right here. Let's, stop it and investigate. Yeah. See what's going on before we ruin the rest of humanity Speaker 1: over money, over profit. That's what this is over. It's sickening. I think Sorry. I went off. I think they are doing that though because you don't see a lot of people taking the latest round of boosters. And they're still propagandizing the booster. CDC is still buying using our tax dollars to buy Facebook ads to promote the boosters, but uptake is, like, two to 7% or something ridiculous. Speaker 22: So They don't know their they pull shit for less. Like, they pull odd drops for, you know, something so so, small. This is, like it's huge. It's not just us. It's worldwide. It's everywhere. We can't make this shit up. Like, Sally Sue, Germany, like, we're having the same problems. I I don't know her from Adam. We can't make this up. It's just I don't know. I'll stop. The the recommendations Speaker 14: for pregnant women and children Speaker 5: cross the line. Speaker 14: That's just straight up murder. Right. And and I think that that that's why you've seen that people aren't going out and and, unfortunately, I have Democrat friends that are still getting boosters. And guess what? They have health problems. And guess what? They don't wanna hear from me. So, anyway, it's just it's so hear I'm sorry I chimed in. Speaker 22: No. You're fine, Laura. You're fine. Speaker 14: I'm just trying to make Speaker 22: yeah. You go ahead. Speaker 14: It I wanted to to ask a couple of things, but I really wanted to make that point, though, that that and the profit the the fact that that the hospitals have gone to total profit model is just and they're all run by Christian organizations. That's the the even that that frightens me even more. Speaker 22: Quote marks the quest the Christian part. Speaker 14: Right. Well, in in Austin, then which you Lindsay, you know where I live, and I don't care to say you know, I don't care. I live in Austin, Texas. Who the fuck cares? But all of our hospital system is is owned by the Catholics. And it's it's amazing that, I mean, they're in the profit model too. It it just makes me sad. And, but they're also part of the organizations that are leading people across the border. But can I ask my question now? I have a couple of questions for for, Yep. Go ahead. From Melissa, and I'm sorry. I had to keep dropping down. I finally had to disconnect my earbuds because I think that's the problem. But, the I have a couple of questions. I had I'd been on a space with Melissa last night, and I'd asked her. And I'm gonna ask Melissa, and I'm gonna ask the doctors. Is anybody I've got, from I only got one vaccine, and it's it was a bad batch. 8727. Gonna get it tattooed on my wrist. But got it on the tenth, and and two weeks later, basically fell because neuropathy set into my my feet and legs, and I end up fracturing my left leg. I'm a 62 year old female. So and I was out of town when it happened. And so had to be off of I was at my parents' house and had to be off of my leg for, like, two months out of town with four animals at home, recent widow. But but, anyway, so, I mean, it took a while for for all the ching ching ching ching ching, the, you know, light bulbs to go off. You know, when I'm in bed, all my hair starts falling out. I'm sorry, but, you know, a fracture of your leg does not make your hair fall out. And, so, anyway, basically, I've got the same problems as everybody else. You know? No doctors believe you. My, my first question is is well, in, like, May, I got, like, a a horrible respiratory illness, and I don't know if it was RSV. It wasn't COVID, but they never tested me for RSV because, gosh, you know, adults don't ever get that. Now they're wanting to, you know, vaccinate everybody for it. But not doing that. But, anyway, I ended up having to get two, you know, steroid shots, and all the nurses know, you know, the steroid shot you get in the hospital, in the emergency room, it's it's pretty hardcore stuff. But Yes. And ta da. I could feel my feet again, and my legs started working. So I have a neurologist. He doesn't believe me at all. But, two months ago, he put me on twenty milligrams of progesterone. And I'm like, it's not doing anything. So he he upgraded it to forty mega mega whatever it is, you know, forty meg and, milliliters, mag mega mega grams, blah blah blah blah. I'm not a nurse. And, and I know I can't be on that for a long time. I think it's helped a little bit, but I'm not sure. I wondered if the doctors had any, advice on what to try if it really looked like the hardcore steroid fixed your problem, but medium dose progesterone is not. That's one question. Another question is, has everybody has anybody ever heard about and this is I asked Melissa about this last night. Sarah works nerve relief foam. And it's it's not gonna fix a problem, but just as far as, like, bringing temporary relief. And number three, I am I have, you know, been trying been taking all of these antibiotics. Not antibiotics. I'm sorry. Vitamins, minerals, supplements. But, I mean, it's like ten pills a day, and it's caused horrible gastronomical problems that are kind of embarrassing to even discuss that that at night, if it hits me during the night when I'm asleep, it can actually cause me to have an accident, which is not something that has been in my past. You know? I realize, you know, I'm I'm entering into a transitional period of young to old, but it's it's it's shocking to me. And those are my three questions, and I know they're kinda all over the place. And I'm sorry. Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Laura. And it I'm not sure if we have any doctors still on the call. I know we have some nurses who have mic right now. So if anybody wants to take those. Speaker 22: The the urine the missing yourself, the last one concerns me. Speaker 14: It's it's not it's not pee pee. It's poo poo. Speaker 22: Right. That's what I'm saying it concerns me. I'll get with you in the back channel. We'll take a look at your list and and stuff like that because that concerns me. So but you don't think that, like, just taking mass amounts of vitamins could be what's Well, it depends on what it is, what time of the night you took it, and, like, it's half life and how it's working. You know? That's why we gotta look at look at it one by one. And that's the thing with these stuff. There's so freaking many of them. It you don't know what's doing what and and what's interacting with what. That's the problem. And and, you know, Lindsay, you're you're listening to everybody all the time, and it's like you're you you you're getting advice from everybody, and it's like, ah, I'm in brain overload. Speaker 14: You know? Amazon, take me away. Yeah. I'll go with you back, Jenna, Laura. How about that? Okay. Alright. Thanks. And I don't know whether anybody knows that that anybody has used that TheraWorks for neuropathy. I've never heard of it, but I'll keep my ears out if I hear about it. It's like it's the same thing that you've probably seen commercials for, like they they started out with muscle and cramp type stuff, and I've used that as well. But I just bought the nerve relief stuff today, and I haven't tried it yet. So I'll, I'll I'll keep y'all posted. But if nobody's ever heard of it, then I'll let that one go. And, where did I start? Started that. Speaker 22: Melissa's question. Speaker 14: Yeah. Melissa is kind of sterile. Do you want me to read the active ingredients, Melissa? Speaker 22: The progesterone and stuff. And there is there a pharmacist up here? I thought, Patriot, are you a pharmacist? Speaker 14: It's a nice I gotta remember I'm old. I gotta get the flashlight out. About progesterone, I'm not as familiar with the hormone hormonal drug. Yeah. On steroids. Oh, I think she needs I think she needs prednisone. Is it? I'm on a I'm on a high medium dose right now. I'm on a high medium dose right now. Prednisone or prednisone? Yes. Pregnnisone. Yes. Prednisone. Speaker 22: Okay. Gotcha. Speaker 14: Yeah. And I've been I was on twenty milligrams for, like, two months, and I told him that didn't seem like it was doing anything. And I'm into, like, week two of Speaker 22: They put on on four to begin with. What was your issue? What are my issues? What did he start you on on four? Like Neuropathy. Or okay. Neuropathy. Okay. Interesting. Speaker 14: Okay. And the, and the reason he did it, I think, is because I told him, you know, when I had that respiratory illness that, you know, the the hardcore steroid shots that I got at the emergency room, you know, cleared up the neuropathy. It's temporary. You know? It only lasted for a couple of weeks, but, you know, when you keep when you haven't felt your your feet or your legs in three years, it was pretty exciting. I was like, oh my god. Speaker 4: Lindsay I'm a human again. Do you think, Lindsay, do you think that it could have been a more a, a response to a localized, spinal transverse myelitis kind of thing? Speaker 22: Yeah. That's that's what I was Speaker 4: thinking. With the vaccine injury. Speaker 22: That and or myocarditis pericarditis with the beta. Wow. Because, Speaker 4: doctor Walzkalk, that night, he had that same thing happen, the orthopedic surgeon. So Speaker 22: Yeah. So I've just recently got off, steroids. I haven't tried it in the two years I've been injured, and I had a double infection that took out my immune system recently. So they we trialed them, and we did the one week six milligrams and then tapered down to four milligrams and then so on. And I will tell you, though, it has been the only thing that's gotten me out of my bed the past two weeks and able to stand up longer than ten to fifteen minutes with my pot symptoms and not get short of breath on any kind of exertion. So we may have to discover that, and I've had clean, Speaker 14: cardiac MRIs. Fortunate thing about steroids, I don't know what all of the things are. I just know it's bad. You know? You can't be in long term long term. Speaker 22: Long term. Yeah. But there's ways to, you know, there's safe ways to go about that because because people are autoimmune disorders or on steroids. But, yeah. They'll Speaker 14: do, like, a a a intravenous type thing every couple of weeks. Speaker 22: Oh, I don't I don't know about that. We just did the oral. You just did oral? I'm on the Speaker 14: you know, what I'm on is I'm not even on the graduated thing. I mean, I'm on, you know, twenty milligrams a day every morning or forty that we I'm at forty, you know, every day, which is medium high. You know? 60 is as high as you can get. So it's it's big. Were were you on that space I was on last night, Lindsay, that was T Birds? I think you may have already gone to bed or you were you were playing music. And then T Bird and then T Bird fell asleep. Speaker 22: Let's see. She's she's she's not in good shape, y'all. Please say a prayer for her. I'm very concerned about her, actually. She her blood pressures were running super high, one seventy three over one thirties. And I shit you not as where the stats, and super concerned for her. She's also retaining lots of fluid and and having congestive heart failure issues too. Speaker 6: Oh. Speaker 14: That's the pretty Yeah. I mean, she start she she had started her space to talk about, you know, what y'all were talking about earlier about the autopsy autopsies. Speaker 22: Yeah. And and, yeah, she's the one that brought that up, and and this is what why and what we do discuss because it's real. It's our lives, and and we don't know from one second to another. You know? Nobody does. I feel the same way sometimes. I don't know whether I'm always gonna wake up either. Yeah. But I'm here for you, Laura, if you need anything. Go ahead. Alright. Thanks, Lindsay. Yep. You're welcome. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, you guys, and thank you for looking out for each other. I think that's a really important part of what we're doing here is just being available for each other. Patrick and Melissa, you've been waiting quite a while. Patrick, go ahead, and then Melissa. Speaker 26: Yes. Thank you. Oh, it's it's my name is Milay. I just my, my handle on Twitter is patriot politics research, so I can understand, right, where you get the confusion patterns. I did that to you last week too. I'm sorry about that. No worries. That's okay as long as you don't call me late for dinner. I, I wanted to share a few things. I've been listening, and, my background is, pharmacy I worked in pharmaceuticals for fifteen years, in sales. My last five years, I worked for a specialty pharmacy, where we would only basically serve or service, prescriptions like Humira, Enbrel, biologics that would you would have to inject yourself. So, I have a MBA. My mother passed away. Well, she was murdered by, the hospital protocols. Never since then and then my mother-in-law, six months later, died of a UTI, and, it caused me down this like, forced me to look into, like, what was the cause, of why both of them died. My mom at 72, my mother-in-law at 80. And, they were both young and healthy otherwise. My mom was prediabetic. She had pneumonia, I believe two years before and somehow got suckered in from through her PCP to get that pneumonia shot, and I think that's why she had a problem with pneumonia. So she develops pneumonia, and I challenged the ICU physician. You know, I was like, hey. Why isn't she on antibiotics? And he goes, I don't wanna lose a license. Blah blah blah. So it caused me to look into why, why there was only one protocol and why wasn't the standard protocol for the treatment for pneumonia followed. And that's been Z Pak or any other variety of antibiotics even up to vancomycin to to cure the pneumonia bacterial infection. And it led me down a path that it was purposeful. And then, basically, Barack Obama's executive order, 09/18/2014, he signed into law. It's a law that HHS and CMS were going to control hospitals and their prescriptions of antibiotics. It went into effect November 2019. It went into, enforceable action where hospitals were penalized from reimbursements to any patient regarding all services if a prescription of antibiotic was written. They had protocols where each hospital had a committee and they had a infection control officer that worked with the hospital's pharmacist, and they had to abide by these antibiotic stewardship programs and protocols. And this also falls under, my mother-in-law with her UTI. She had a non treated UTI, no antibiotics that developed into sepsis. Speaker 22: That's Do you know the bacterium that it was? The back Speaker 26: the bacterium? Uh-huh. Do you know what it was? Yeah. So What color? So it's it's either, doctor Jeffrey Taubenberger said the two things that caused the nineteen eighteen pandemic, would probably be the same type of bacteria that would cause any future bacteria, pandemic, and they were streptococcus and pneumococcus bacteria. And that those are two naturally colonizing bacteria in our upper respiratory upper respiratory tract system in our trachea. So and then he I I have a thread. You could if anyone wants to to look into my thread, I'm still it's evolving, but I should hopefully finish it within the next couple of days. But, Jeffrey Taubenberger says that what the NIH and NIAID and he's, like, the top scientist, researcher, virologist at NIAID and co wrote a paper with Fauci and and another physician named David Morins in 02/2008. And they said that it wasn't a viral infection that killed all the people in the nineteen eight eighteen pandemic. It was the bacterial infection. And they didn't have antivirals, and they didn't have antibiotics to treat the bacterial infection. Speaker 22: Yeah. They withheld the AZT. Yep. So, Speaker 26: you know, like, my mother in law's experience, totally blew me away because it was not COVID related like my mom. And I was like, how are these two related? And then in the antibiotic stewardship program law, and remember this is law as hospitals have to abide by it. There's three focus conditions that they focus on. One is community acquired pneumonia. The second is UTIs, urinary tract infections. And the third is soft skin and soft tissue infections. And if everyone can recall what four Democratic governors did, in the beginning of the pandemic where they forced, sick influenza, pneumonia patients into nursing homes, there's a form of, pneumonia that is called NHS, nursing home nursing home acquired pneumonia syndrome. And it's just all it is is the difference is you're getting, you contract pneumonia in a, a health care setting versus getting it out in in the in the public compared to a community acquired pneumonia syndrome. And furthermore, doctor, the same guy, Jeffrey Taubenberger of NIH, NIAID, said that what they believed caused the bacterial, pneumonia pandemic was where our natural colonizing bacteria somehow through, getting a virulent influenza strain caused us to aspirate our own colonizing bacteria, strep and pneumococcal bacteria in our upper respiratory tract system to end up into our own lungs. And once again, 1917, 1918, they didn't have antibiotics to treat the pneumonia infection. And that's the exact same thing that happened in 2020 verbatim. It was enforceable March 2020. The lockdowns happened March 2020. Obama did a video in my thread in 2014 where he actually said he goes, if, he goes, what if we have a pandemic in the next five years? The next five years. Five years plus 2014 is 02/2019, and that's when the first supposed case of COVID came out of, China. And when it did, the New England Journal of Medicine in January 2020, 01/29/2020, they wrote an article that was published in the journal, New England Medicine, where they said it it was a coronavirus, a novel coronavirus, pneumonia infection. Regardless, there's all these different variables of or versions of pneumonia. You still have to treat it with antibiotics. So, like, whenever people say there's a profit, there there's many aspects. There's many things happening at the same time. There I believe there was gain of function research being done through this through this pandemic. It exposed it, but I don't believe a gain of function virus was released because in 2020, the CDC's number said only six percent of the deaths from February 2020 to August 2020 were directly COVID related. So we all remember the nursing videos where some hospitals they were doing dances and then we've seen the videos where some hospitals were using dummies and they were caught on TV. We've seen the doctors laughing on, on, certain, local TV channels that went viral over the past few years. They hijacked influenza and pneumonia season that happened seasonally and then it just went on hiatus for two years and then came back in 2022. Speaker 22: Disappeared. Completely. And then Got home. Speaker 26: It it was nowhere to be found, brother. We I believe the two red herrings are there's focus on the antivirals like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which are great that they do help people, but those are prophylactics. They can't help you once you have pneumonia. You're pretty much SOL unless you receive antibiotics proactively on top of IV and and new nutrients. President Trump tweeted out, a tweet in 2020. He goes, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin could be a game changer. Everyone focused on hydroxychloroquine as we should have because it's a great antiviral and anticancer drug as well in vitro. But the Z Pak was highly important because we all remember when you got went early on, you went to the hospital, They sent you back home because you were not sick enough. You had to come back where you were having difficulty breathing, and then that's when they followed this antibiotic stewardship protocol. And they needed a number of deaths to create the scare and the fear aspect through the mainstream media that were funded by the pharmaceutical companies to get people to line up in parking lots. So, flu season went away for two years. ZPEC, which is the standard basic protocol for pneumonia. If you