Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another CHBMP space. Please give us a few minutes to get situated, and then we'll get started. Hello, protocol widow and McMeow. How are you guys doing? Speaker 2: Doing good. How are you all doing? Speaker 1: Good. So glad to hear you. You're doing good. What about you, Prudekal? Speaker 3: I'm good. Thank you, Chelsea, for asking. Hope you are having a blast in sunny Colorado. Speaker 1: Sunny. That's funny. It is, snowing this afternoon. So Adam's built me a little goodness. He's built me a little tree fort on the back porch here so I can be warm and still host the space. Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Speaker 3: Yeah. He's a keeper. Speaker 1: Yep. I figured that out a while a while back. Speaker 2: That's cool. So I love the, the the pictures of, Colorado snowy or Sonny, how far up are you? Are you gonna get a lot of snow? Because it's right. We're coming up on March, but you guys go until, what, April? That I know far up they do. Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know. I'm still, I am still just figuring out what time zone it is. So I'm like, takes me a while to to get situated, but, we'll we'll find out real quick here, won't we? Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Wow. Protocol widow, what's going on with you? Oh, hey, Miriam. Speaker 4: Hi. Hey, everybody. Speaker 3: I personally have spent the last two days learning more and more about the husbandry of a piece of property than I really want to do anymore right now. Speaker 5: Oh, I I still relate. Speaker 2: You're you're relating. I bet you're relating. Did did you say you were out there cutting trees? Speaker 3: Fortunately, I wasn't cutting, but I was helping to move the the remainder of them. My son came over and was doing the, he was doing the honey do list that you normally have with your hubby. So we, cleared a bunch of of the where I live there's nothing but pine trees, so the pine mat on the ground is, really conductive in the event of a fire. So, the goal was to get everything cleared, all that pine mat up and pushed away, and to found two dead trees that needed to come down and be cut up, and he blew off my roof. And so it's just been two days of, sweat and dirt and debris in your hair and all that good stuff. So how about you? Are you and your family okay? Speaker 2: We're doing good. Jim is still, having signs and symptoms. I finally got dad, situated and, so you know? But he is, like, COPD, and he's 90, so he was the one I was more worried about. But, but I, I I connected, to, to get my stash refilled of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and, steroid and CPAC because, man, we used it all up. But but we're doing good. We're doing good. And, and I actually did better than all the rest of them, but I but I take vitamins every day and, you know, keep my immune system popping and wide eyed. You know? So Speaker 5: Yes. Yes. Speaker 2: Yeah. Lots of fluid, but, I tell you, it it is really taking people kind of by storm, this what they're calling influenza. I'd like to I'd like to really figure out, you know, is is this really influenza or not? You know? Because it seems like and this may just be me, but it seems to be acting weird this year. You know? Lot lots of people seem to be dropping out. Speaker 3: I, I noticed that, Gail had mentioned, I think, about Monday of this past week that there was a lot of odd symptoms for what would normally be called flu. So yeah. It and and so okay. But you're the you're the nurse. You can tell me. If if it's a flu, is it like a or b? Can they tell you that? Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. They they'll be able to tell you, whether it's a or b. A lot of them seem to be a, but, you know, I I don't know because, you know, I mean, I I think they're I think they're really been laxed about, even putting in all the all the data that they should and and then putting it out there. So you know? But I'm not really sure. I think I I think, though, most of it has been a. That's usually what it is. I just like to know kinda the the virulence of it because it seems to be, and maybe it's just mean people can tell me what they what they think. But it seems to me that we have a lot more people who are becoming not just febrile, but they're, like, dropping pressures. You know, the hospital rates always go up. Now they say there's more right now. Of course, you don't know is that because not as many people got vaccinated. They say childhood vaccines are down, but, yeah, you know, they give you a one one or two year snapshot in time. So, you know Speaker 3: Well, you know, the reason part of the reason I asked you is because I'm really not I I read an article. No. I watched an interview. Excuse me. Let's be clear about this. I watched an interview with Peter McCullough, and, he was talking about the h five n one, the bird flu, which is in his opinion, and it it seems very likely that it was released, leaked, escaped, whatever they wanna call it, from a lab in the Atlanta area. And if that's the case, then because apparently, they were testing mallard ducks. And it apparently it has something to do with, the way their lungs the way a mallard's lungs are, and I can't remember exactly what he was describing, but, you know, they were using them because they had the specific lung profile that they wanted to have. And then the next thing you know, the geese are getting it. The chickens are getting it. And he was saying it's either 40 or 48 mammals have become positive. And apparently it is something that transfers to people. Mhmm. But the examples that they use remind me of the questions that should have been asked during COVID. Oh, yeah. You know, there's a there was a victim apparently who didn't make it in maybe Wyoming ish and one in Louisiana. Well, both patients had comorbidities, but they did not expound on what those comorbidities were that I saw. And then the other thing was dead birds, particularly the one in Wyoming, which I thought was vague enough to, question. Well, okay, so there were dead birds. Were they chickens or were they just like crows? Okay. Right. We're also talking Wyoming in December and January. So if they had chickens and this person got sick and wasn't able to go out and feed their chickens, did the chickens die because they had influenza, or did the chickens die because they weren't being taken care of and it was freaking freezing, and their water froze, and they didn't have any food, that would, that would be a different reason why the birds died. Let's not let's not play this game. And if they think of the Glapendell, Louisiana, we don't know, what that person died did they die with h five n one because it was a secondary infection to other comorbidities? And then that question is still not truly answered when we switch over to measles in Texas. Speaker 4: Mhmm. Just to pop in, guys, I wanna say, I think that that's purposeful leaving out all the details because they're trying to gin up fear. So, you know, I'm gonna stick a a newsletter of Merrill doctor Merrill Nassis talking about, doctor Peter McCullough and what he was getting wrong about the bird flu. She's actually, she's actually saying that, you know, it's there's nothing to be afraid of. She gives a lot of nice statistics and actually addresses some of the points that you brought up, Sherry. So I'm gonna pop that in the purple pill. Sweet. Thank you. I have been I have not been able to usually, she does a really good Speaker 3: kind of a podcast or a show on, CHD, and I have not kept up with that. So that doesn't surprise me, though. She is been very on top of things with all of these bird flu, COVID, the, you know, the transfer from, you know, animals to humans, vice versa. And, I missed any updated shows in the last week or so. I just happened to see that one interview with, Del Bigtree. That's all. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 3: So but there yeah. I'm glad she's answering more questions because that is I think it's I think it's paramount that we know these answers. Speaker 2: Oh, I think so too because, you know, we've we've got so many unanswered Speaker 9: Whoops. Speaker 1: Unanswered. You were saying so many unanswered, and then it it cut off. Oh, questions. So many unanswered questions. And Speaker 2: now, history is and the patterns are repeating themselves. And so, you know, we we have to we have to go back to the beginning and and start and look at at what has been done, and and get the answers. You know? Otherwise, how how will we move forward? How can we even trust? You know? I mean, now I I personally, you know, have a whole lot more, you know, optimism about the new administration that's that's coming in and and RFK Junior. And I I mean, you know, but but things are kind of in a in an uproar, and there's been such a lag of time, and and lapses of of information that we know that we're even back, you know, way back in. You know? Thanks, doctor Birx and doctor Fauci. And and thanks for admitting it. You know? We appreciate that. So but, yeah, I I'm glad because doctor Nas is is phenomenal. You know? And Speaker 1: all Yep. It drives me crazy when people on ostensibly on our in incidentally or accidentally hype, the next variant or the next thing, disease x or bird flu or whatever it is. We need to be really careful to keep all that in context and remember that we have treatments and cures for these things. There's no reason for an uproar. Speaker 5: Well and that that's the thing. Like, there the next thing has hit us because we're getting calls. Right? And it people are being diagnosed with influenza, but it has this neurological thing. Like, we've had so many calls of people, like, passing out, having a seizure, fainting, having these massive headaches, and then going into the hospital or all these other things even, I say neurological, but even, like, problems with, their, you know, their motor function, I guess. Mhmm. And then being diagnosed with influenza. And it's a little bit of a mix. I thought I thought maybe we were seeing a situation where the vaccinations the, you know, the vaccinated were getting targeted, which possibly may be. They know that people who are vaccinated with the COVID shot are gonna start, you know, dying more. And, you know, but I I think they're, like, ask I don't even know if people really have the flu, but it's just very funny that it comes when RFK Jr stopped all the advertising for the flu Mhmm. For that flu shot. And, then all of a sudden, the flu has become the most deadliest thing ever. And Right. Same with measles. You you start looking into the MMR that has been damaging kids forever, and suddenly measles kills one person who really went in for RSV and didn't get breathing treatments. Speaker 1: Right. And, of course, every time they mention that in the news, they say an unvaccinated child has already died. Speaker 5: I know. Exactly. They don't say that the parents begged for breathing treatments, and the child's got the measles in the hospital and Right. They they vaccinated her. Speaker 4: Of course not. Why would they wanna tell the truth? They wanna hype up the fear. That's it. That's exactly it. If you can get everybody, Speaker 2: emotions up, you know, you can create, you know, what, what what is my new term now, and I love this term. Doctor Malone, uses it, psychological bioterrorism. Exactly. You know, spreading all that fear and and, you know, psychological manipulation revolved around the disease. I mean, it's it is it is absolutely, paralyzing for some people. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 1: You know? I know. Yeah. We really saw that during the height of the so called COVID crisis. Speaker 5: And anybody who's my age had anybody who's my age had probably had the measles and the mumps and Yeah. You know, really wasn't that damn big of a a deal. It was You know what I mean? It was nothing. Everybody expected it. Speaker 4: I I had them. My all my siblings had them. To me, it's extremely foreign to hear them go, measles. Measles. Oh, measles. I'm thinking, why? Yeah. Right. We all had measles. And, plus, I was looking at something the other day in the nineteen sixties. They prescribed vitamin a for the bad cases, and nobody Vitamin Speaker 5: a. Vitamin a. Voice food that's here. Yep. Speaker 8: Yep. Masking. Speaker 5: Yep. Hey, Matt. I saw a hand, and I'm on my hopefully, I saw it. I'm ready. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Sorry. I was I was sending out some invites. Speaker 12: But but, yeah, it's it's it's good to see you guys, Gail, Chelsea, Miriam, Mick, Sherry. Thank thank you, thank you guys for hosting the space. Y'all y'all know y'all y'all are my commitment on Saturday nights. Nowhere else I'd wanna be. But, Speaker 5: Man, you need to get a girlfriend. No. No. You're right. You're right. Speaker 12: You're right. I admit it. I admit it. I The best old ladies are office. No. No shame whatsoever. You're right. No. But no. But no. Thank thank thank y'all for the support Friday night. Jennifer was, was great. It was, it was great to have her on and get to talk to her. And, I think I think we're really covered I think we're really covered a lot, out of that. I see I see a few of you guys were, in here who were there. Ratchet. So it it was, it was great to to have her and and, hear hear her story. So thank thank you guys for that, for the support. But, yeah, it I'd part of me want the reason I put my hand up, though, is because part of me wonders if this is another bioweapon. And I'm not saying that this flu variant is or isn't. But everything that we've experienced, I can't help but think to myself, are they trying to do this again? Because they tried to they tried to do this with bird flu. They tried to do this with monkeypox. Speaker 5: Is the is the is this time of It is gain of function, and the reason the way that you know is the way that it attacks multiple organs and multiple areas. Like, that's how I mean, you know, Huckleberry's Huckleberry was a bio bioweapons officer in the military. That was his specialty, and he was a nurse. And that's how he knew COVID was a was a gain of function. Gain of function bioweapons are as old as time. For I mean, back to the old testament when they poisoned water. Right? Speaker 12: Wait. Wait. Wait. What are you referring to here? Speaker 5: So, I mean, as long as people as long as human beings have warred against each other, as long as there's been war, there's been gain of function, there's been biological warfare. Right? So but the way that you know something is gain of function, typically, is because it doesn't a virus will act will act in a certain way, and it will attack a certain system. But when it attacks multiple systems that don't make sense, it's been modified. That's that's biological warfare. So you we're seeing people get diagnosed with the flu. Of course, they're using the same PCR test that they used for COVID, and so we don't know how they're running them, and they're not really a diagnostic diagnostic tool per se, but we're seeing the same scenario play out with influenza now. Right? Somebody goes in, they had a memory lapse or they had a seizure or they had passed out, and that's not the flu, but it's being diagnosed as the flu. Does that make sense? So they're and then they're having the same protocol push on them. They're having the same, you know, remdesivir, baricitinib. I mean, it's the same they're being told they're gonna die. Speaker 12: I mean, I think Yeah. Yeah. Really. That is it's all it's all it's all the same thing. Right? It's all the same type of They got away with it once. They're trying it they're trying it again. But what were you referring to with, with the example you're about to give from the old testament, and then I cut you off? Speaker 5: Oh, oh, when you know, just some of the war some of the wars in the old testament even it was poisoning the water supply of of a city, right, or cutting off or throwing or throwing carcasses over the wall to cause some type of disease. You know? Like, Speaker 1: the Or sending blankets that people had covered with pox. Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, throughout history, it just got more and more sophisticated. What you know? Like, you could you would hope that a carcass a dead carcass would would land in the water and poison the water. So, like, that that's all biological warfare. Just it's just gotten more advanced. Right? Speaker 2: So as as And they're much better at it. Yeah. They they they're constantly learning, and, you know, being able to to utilize I mean, you know, psychological warfare has gone on for decades and decades and decades, you know, all the way back to, you know, the the World Wars. You know? But Speaker 4: And I wanna say not only have they gotten better at, you know, weaponizing natural, viruses and things, they've also they also prepped the population for decades by weakening our immune system, by poison us poisoning us with all of the chemicals and everything else that they've done and with the with vaccines and everything else because it compromised our immune response. So Right. You know, it's a it's a multi pronged attack. So, you know, since you can't keep them from doing the gain of function, you have to control what you can control. And what you can control is how you take care of your body. Tripe. Speaker 12: And that psychological warfare Mick was just talking about, really, it doesn't it as far as our generation's concerned, yeah, it probably goes back to World War two, but, ultimately, it goes back to the first lie in the Garden of Eden. Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Did he really say that, Eve? Speaker 4: Yeah. Isn't that interesting? Like that, Eve. Yeah. Because because it was all about what they were putting into their body, choosing to ingest. They're not choosing to ingest. And same thing's true now. I mean, your choices have a great bearing on how your body's gonna respond to the gain of function attack. So and that's the only thing that we can control is how we take care of our body and what we choose to put in it. Yes. And just for the record, Speaker 5: that's why that's why the whole term women's woman's intuition is total crap. Women have never had they've never been good pickers of who to trust. Speaker 4: I I had no thought of that, but that that's a excellent point. And the other thing is if you closely read the first chapter, you will notice that, Adam was first told not to do it. So and you will notice that he was immediately there, and she offered it to him. So, obviously, it seems that he witnessed the problem, knew better, and then still did it himself. So I'm not sure I'm not sure his judgment is much improved. Speaker 5: Yep. Yep. Because men have been whipped since all no. I'm just kidding. Men have yes. He shoulda he shoulda not He shoulda been like, Eve, spit that out, and he shoulda reprimanded her on the spot, but he didn't he didn't wanna hurt her feelings. If they had feelings back then, I'm sure they did. And you'll notice the other thing. Ever since they got kicked out of the garden, women have not been able to decide where they want to go eat or what they want to eat ever since, and that's why. That's hilarious. Speaker 4: I love it. I mean, but I'll tell you. You know, it it just shows that, being able to make have discernment and make good choices is foundational to your health and your life from the beginning. Speaker 5: From the beginning and your soul. John's got his hand up. Hey, John. Speaker 11: Hello, everyone. How are y'all this evening? Come couple of things. One, I apologize that I'm late. Was at a birthday party, and I couldn't leave because I was the birthday boy. But, anyways, I'm calling you. Birthday, John. Well, thank you. It was actually a week ago. But, Happy birthday. Thank you. My daughter-in-law called me last Saturday, and she said, there's a rumor that it's your birthday. I said, you don't you're not supposed to pay attention to any rumors at all. And, she it it was a little bit of an inside joke. I could care less about birthdays anyways. Y'all were talking about gain of function in in COVID. The the, COVID select committee in June, June or July, came out with their report on COVID, and they admitted that gain of function research or gain of function, one, was funded by the United States Congress. Speaker 13: Two, Speaker 11: was used in Wuhan lab. Three, Wuhan lab it was used in Wuhan lab because it could not be used in The US, so they moved the testing to Wuhan. Four, they were paying Anthony Fauci. And five, COVID came from Mohonk. So there's a direct correlation to gain the function research and COVID, a direct a a direct correlation. And to back up ten years earlier, in 2014, the US government put a ban on gain of function research because it was too dangerous. It was too dangerous. It was too deadly. They banned it for four years. In 2018, the federal government allowed gain of function research to come to become again. In 2019, COVID hit. Is there a correlation to that? I am not a person that believes in in coincidences. They knew exactly what they were doing when they reinstituted gain of function research. There's no question in no question in my mind at all. And and, yes, we have to take care of ourself, but we have to make sure that the government is not poisoning us. Miriam said, you know, we can't do anything about gain of function. I I will disagree with Miriam. There is something we can do about gain of function, and it goes back to that document that's almost 250 years old called the US constitution that states we, the people, can alter and abolish your government, and the government cannot do that. And when the US Supreme Court justice Neil Gorsuch, who wrote a book called Overruled last year, went on every talk show and spoke about the authority of the people of The United States and that the government is a servant to the people or is a trustee to the people. And we, as a society, need to shout that from the rooftops because and and and I'm not I don't mean to get political, but I'm getting political because this wicked crap that that we have all had or some of us are still dealing with or some of us have lost loved ones of it is very, very political. I I I believe it is very political. They wanted to control the population, and they did that by by destroying lives, destroying families, murdering. It it it it y'all, I've I've read it. As a matter of fact, it's it's in the headlines, crime against humanity. If there ever was a crime against humanity, this is it. And the sad part is is we have the ability to stop that, but it's gonna take every every red blooded American person to understand that we can tell the government what to do, and they have to do what we tell them to do because we pay their their salary. And when a a congressman or US center says, oh, no. I've paid enough taxes. No. You haven't. That document states that you work for us. We tell you what to do. You represent us. And then the constitution, it allows for medical, practices, for medical trials, for medical, exploration as long as it does not cause harm to the people. That's what the constitution says. They knew what COVID was. They knew that it was gonna kill, and it was gonna destroy lives. And they went ahead and did that. Every member in Congress, center, congressman, has violated the constitution. Every single member that that voted for gain of function violated the constitution. At at some point, we, the people, have to stand up and say enough is enough. You don't do this no more. We tell you what to do. And until people realize that, nothing's gonna happen. And and there'll be another code. There are no questioning in my mind. Speaker 4: Thank you. Gonna be another I wanted to say I could have said better the way I said it. I totally agree with you from constitutional standpoint. I was just saying that we have to stay alive in the meantime. And the way we Oh, yes, ma'am. Stay alive in the meantime is to up our own immune defenses because they're going to continue to do this until they are stopped. That's the point. If we all if they kill a bunch of us, we can't stop them. So we do have to protect our own wow. I don't know what that is. We do have to Oh, that I'm sorry. That that was a buzzer. Yes. So we we we do have to project our own immune health as they're barraging us with the gain of function Speaker 5: path. Yeah. It also Yes, ma'am. It also takes a a lot of people to stand up. And the unfortunate thing in America that we're seeing is people are not standing. There's so many things we could be standing up for that the government has done, and that it that's being exposed, like, as like, daily. It's like drinking out of a fire hose. Right? So there's so many horrendous things that if if that we should be angry about I mean, like, we once fought a war over a slight, tax on a breakfast beverage, and now we're, like, so far from what our founding fathers gave us so far. We're we're closer to what Stalin had for his people than anything, but we we just people Americans have become comfortable, very comfortable. Speaker 4: Well, and And You know, you're 100% right because they don't have any concern about what the American people think, want. They don't they don't and I don't mean to use this word in a bad way, but they don't fear any consequences from the American people now. They don't they don't respect the constitution. They don't respect anything. And there's the problem. Speaker 11: Yeah. Exactly, Miriam. And and when the US Congress comes out and says, we did this. We did this. We did this, and we did this, and we did this. They told us in the select subcommittee. They they couldn't have said we are guilty of murdering people any closer than what they said. Speaker 5: Right. No. Exactly. Speaker 11: Said and they said it. Themselves Speaker 5: or I mean, they're invest they consistently investigate themselves for perpetrators. Speaker 4: It's crazy. Speaker 11: Exactly. And they said it because they think Speaker 5: Right. Speaker 11: That nothing's gonna happen to them. When was the last time a congressman was, arrested and tried? Never. Speaker 2: No. That's the thing. That's the thing. And and and they just kept keep throwing money, keep throwing money. You know? You know, you you were talking about we gotta build a a a coalition, Speaker 11: so to speak. 77,000,000 people voted for a mandate Yeah. This past November. 77,000,000 people stood up and said, we don't want this anymore. Those same 77,000,000 people need to stand up and say, we're gonna hold you accountable. And if you don't straighten up, we're gonna come in and we're gonna fire every one of you because we have the authority to do so. Speaker 2: Well, you know, John, we have, a whole bunch of appointments for Monday at the Capitol. If you can join us, we're, are are you ready to get fired up and go talk to him? Because we're, having legislators sign the letter to, tell the attorney general even though he says that, he'd he can't think of any state level law that he could charge Fauci with. We believe that's erroneous. And, Well, there's 19 other states that are doing it. That's it. Well, yeah. And so So that's that's that's our point as well. Are they all wrong? Speaker 11: No. They're not wrong. Exactly. It's a civil it's a civil, they they can't attack him, criminally, and and I disagree with that. I think you can. Oh, yeah. I'm not a scholar, but I think I think you can attack him criminally. But what the ninth 18 or 19 states are doing, they're attacking him civilly. And and, folks, I I I don't wanna I don't wanna hog the the, space, tonight, but there's so much, that that's happened in the past week. I don't know if y'all are aware, but the state of Missouri sued China for $24,000,000,000 and one. Yep. For sure did. Speaker 2: Sure did. $24,000,000,000. And they're part of that coalition of 17 as well. So Exactly. Exactly. Speaker 5: And then They sued them, and then they won in in what court? Speaker 11: China did not show up, or the lawyers for China did not show up, and the judge granted, the, state of Missouri winners. Now I imagine there's gonna be appeals and appeals and appeals, or China doesn't even really care. Yeah. But and and I didn't know this, but two years ago today, they, made today, the annual long COVID day. Speaker 5: Has anyone heard of that? I read that. No. And that really ticks me off because, like well and I people get mad at me. Even protocol victims get mad at me when I say this. We should not be participating in COVID memorial bullshit like that because they're trying to to make us go along with the narrative that COVID killed one point six million people when it was the protocols. And it and it and, like, we were murdered. People were murdered. I was always murdered not by COVID. Yes. I mean, COVID, yes, COVID was a bioweapon. The and the shot but the shot was a bioweapon and the protocols were a bioweapon as well. Right. And without the protocols and and the shots, people would have just been fine. If it was the protocol, if they had just given everybody ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and budesonide, everybody ninety nine point five percent of the people would have freaking got better, like, easily with it. But it was it was the protocols. And every single time I see, oh, look at this COVID memorial. Look at this COVID memorial. That is part of the SIAP. That is to get everybody to believe that one point six million people actually did die of COVID, and therefore, you better go get your tenth booster. Speaker 4: Yeah. Definitely. And I wanna say this too. You know, people say, well, how do you know that? Here's here's a great example of how we know that. Ralph Lorigo in New York, actually, after people were on ventilators, got court orders for ivermectin, and eleven out of eleven live. Now you're seriously when when you're on an an event later, you are seriously dying. There there's no you know, in the COVID protocol, that's end of life right there. Okay? For him to be 11 out of eleven, what does this tell you if we had you just used this drug as a treatment or even better prophylactically for the entire country? Why weren't we sending out kits like India did? I'll tell you why. Because they wanted people sick. They want them to stay home. They wanted them to get so sick they had to go to the hospital. Then they wanted to start the protocol to kill them, to scare the population into taking the vaccine. Period. Speaker 11: I mean Yep. You're a 100% correct. And and and not only that down, Miriam. Speaker 2: Throw the mic down and walk out. Speaker 4: Thanks. Thanks, Mick. Speaker 11: I, I I believe that, the pharmaceutical companies were very much a part of this. There's no way that that you can can develop a a drug that quick and not know the consequences. I think a lot of people a lot of the there's a reason why the heads of the three pharmaceutical companies would not take the COVID shot. Speaker 4: Yep. And there's a there's a reason why they why congress was exempted as well. Congress Absolutely. Speaker 11: Absolutely. And so, you know, and and I I never got the shot, but I I deal with long COVID. And and there's there's, I was in a space a couple nights ago, and and the other people were telling me that it's probably the shreds. Well, oddly enough, the very next day, I was reading a a story, which I don't read a whole lot, because of of what it does to me, but, that there's a test that you can take that will tell you whether you're dealing with long COVID or you're dealing with shedding. And so I'm I'm gonna look more into that, talk to my PCP to find out, because I I never heard of of Speaker 4: of shedding. John, I can see the test, with the CPT codes that are required to give to your physician because one is a test that tests for the actual outside shell of the virus. It's called the nucleocapsid, and the other is a test that tested for the test for the spike protein. And so you can definitely tell whether it is the virus or whether it is the spike protein with those two particular tests. Speaker 11: Okay. Yeah. I I if you could could send that to me or text it to me, Miriam, I would greatly, greatly appreciate because that's something I wanna do. I I believe and and they're regardless. I'm I'm either dealing with the, effects of of COVID or I'm dealing with the effects of of the protocols. And so but I I am I am and pardon me for saying this. I am hell bent on on on holding people accountable. They have to be held accountable. Our president has to be held accountable. He has to admit that what he did by that that speed, and I forgot that that deal that he did by getting all the pharmaceutical companies involved in developing, vaccines, that was wrong. There was no testing. There was no trials. They brought it, and they hid it. Now was he lied to? Absolutely, he was. I don't think president Trump did that on purpose. I think president Trump was too trusting. And now he's got an opportunity to right the ship. He's got an opportunity to say this was wrong. I don't know that he will do that. And we've got probably the greatest, person in that in his position in RFK. The the when RFK was approved, the pharmaceuticals, their stocks dropped dropped that day because they know what RFK Junior can do. And I'm not a Democrat. I'm a very conservative, red blooded American conservative. I I I vote red. But I am thrilled to death that RK Jr is in the is is in his position because, hopefully, he can stand up to those companies and demand accountability. You know? I think Fauci needs to be tried as a war criminal. I I truly do. I I I think I I think he he they declared war on the American people, and that's really harsh to say from a guy that grew up loving the country and still loves the country. But I honestly believe that they have have created or they they, they instituted war against American people. And we just have to we have to take our country back. And like I said, 77,000,000 people voted for Trump. We need those 77,000,000 people to tell the government, you're fired, every one of you, because we have that ability. But people don't know that. And and, you know, 56 people pledged their life two hundred and fifty years ago for, by signing a document, they pledged their lives, and they knew that they were probably going to die. And most, if not all of them, did. And fast forward to 2025, the same percentage would be about 10,000 people. Are there 10,000 people that are willing to give their life to get our country back? And and and and that's in essence what what is gonna have to happen. There's gonna have to be people that are willing to do whatever it takes to get their country back. And if if we do, then then we should all be able to receive, apologies and restitution. And how do you have restitution for a life? You don't. But but you can make sure that it never happens again, that no one else suffers what what I suffer with or what Miriam suffers within the loss of her husband or what, protocol suffers within the loss of her husband. And we just have to we we have to stand up and stand together. And and, Huckleberry, you you were saying Monday at Oklahoma City? That was Mick. Who was that? Mick. Yeah. That was Mick. Oh, okay. I'm sorry, Mick. I apologize. Monday at what time? Speaker 10: Mick? Speaker 2: Can you hear me now? Speaker 4: Yes. We can hear you. Oh, great. Yeah. I'm Did you hear John's question? Speaker 2: Yes. He was asking about what time for, the capital on Monday, 08:30 to three. We have appointments all day, and so whenever you wanna show up is is great. We're gonna do a little filming as well. I see Deb in the audience. I think Deb is gonna be there. I hope there's gonna be other people in the medical freedom fight who are gonna come up and give their testimonies, and, have the legislators sign the letter saying to the attorney general, yo, bro, open up the investigations. The authority is is within your power. You you know, the statutes are clearly there in Oklahoma. Speaker 11: So who or who is the meetings with? Are they with all the legislatures or certain legislatures? Speaker 2: Not not all of them. We have certain, ones that we've got appointments. We made a bunch of phone calls, and I think we've got, like, ten ten or 11 people who returned our call. So that's that's who we're meeting with, all the ones that we sent, phone calls to. Speaker 11: Okay. Do you know if, Warren Hampton is there? Speaker 2: Warren Hamilton is already signed. So, yeah, I already had a meeting with him. Speaker 11: Okay. I I know Warren, and and he suffered. I don't know if he told you, but he suffered with COVID bad bad bad. And and he's a I I know Warren personally, and he's a super guy. So, okay. And how about, oh gosh. I'll have to do some do some, checking because there's a couple cents or a couple, house members or senators that we may that you may be able to get just by picking up the phone. I'm thinking of the, house member in, LaFleur County. I can't think of his name. I've met him several, several times. And then, and then, Tom, the senator for this part of the country. Tom something or another. But I I'll do some checking. I I've got some friends that know some some congressmen really, really well. And so I'll see if if I can't get in touch with them. I've got a a meeting at 10:30 and then another meeting at eleven. So if I were to get there, it would probably be late, like, you know, 02:30, 03:00, something like that. I'm I'm about three hours away from the city. Gotcha. Speaker 2: But But I think you're talking about maybe Tom Gann. And No. No. No. Not Tom Gann. Okay. Speaker 11: No. He's a first term senator. He's out of, Okay. Adair. Adair. Okay. Adair. Speaker 2: Okay. We've got one of the representatives from LaFleur, Rick West. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He's He's a good man. He is a good man. He helped us get the, World Health Organization, World Economic Forum, and UN legislation in Oklahoma. So Speaker 11: yeah. Yep. Super, super good. I I used to be involved I used to be involved with an organization called o k two a, which is Yeah. Oklahoma's second amendment association. I was, in charge of of the eastern half of the state. So I got to meet a lot of a lot of cool senators, Warren Hamilton, Rick West, and a couple others. And, so, I, I I would love to be there, Mick. Unfortunately, I can't miss my 10:30 meeting. I I'm I'm at a closing at 10:30 Monday morning, and then I've got another meeting directly after that with my accountant, my tax accountant. And, but once those are over, we can probably, get up there. Of course, my wife would have to come, because I can't drive that far. Yep. But, that that's not a problem with her, driving. I just I'm not I don't drive anymore because of my, cognitive issues thanks to COVID. So but I will, and I think I've got your phone number, don't I? Yes. You have my Speaker 2: my email and just just, you know, and if you can't, no worries. We're gonna be going, just about every Monday. So and, so no worries. We'll we'll catch you on the flip side. Speaker 11: Okay. Yeah. I mean, if I can't make it this Monday, I'll certainly make it the very next one for sure without a doubt. Because I I think it's the more they hear, the more they understand. And and we've gotta get our state on board with other 18. And and we've got a president and and a health and human services head that understand that care, and we just have to make other people care. And, like I said, hold other people accountable. So but, I've also appreciate you sending me the email, Nick. And, Miriam, thank you for, messaging me that stuff. I'll, get my doctor to look at it and figure out what I need to do to get tested. And I'll shut up, and I'll listen now. Thank you all so much. Speaker 4: Alright. I don't know if anybody else sees hands. I see Matt has a hand up. Chelsea, do you see any other hands? I guess not. I I don't hear anyone else. So, Matt, I guess, batter up. Speaker 12: Well, I I just and, Miriam, I just wanted to clarify something. Was it, what was it was it 2017? I I I seem to remember that the gain of function research stopped in 2014, and then it was stopped, and then it was started again in either 2017 or 2018. I'd, I can't I can't remember the year, but I don't and I don't also don't think it was done through congress. I think it was just done, like, executively, wasn't it? Speaker 5: They never really stopped it. I I didn't yes. They were supposed to stop it, but they just changed the definition of it. Yeah. They changed the definition, and they formed it out. And 2017, Speaker 4: was definitely I know it was that was when Fauci predicted that Trump would be tried in his first term by a, quote, pandemic. So, you know, obviously, it was calculated. They knew what was coming because he he prognosticated it. He's on video. I actually have that video somewhere saying that. So, yeah. Speaker 12: Unreal. Right? Yeah. They These I mean, I mean, these people predicted what was gonna happen before it actually happened. You'd think they knew something Trump didn't. Speaker 5: Well, they that's because they caused it, obviously. But, like, I could predict a car accident if I was planning on ramming somebody's car. Right. I could I could predict, you know, a person can predict a shooting if they're planning on shooting. A person can predict, a crop being destroyed if they're going to go out there and destroy the crop. There's a lot of things we can predict if we're the perpetrator of said Yep. Thing. Speaker 4: Yep. And, you know, that's how haughty and how untouchable they believe they are because they Yes. Literally have no shame Mhmm. About saying it's gonna happen, and then they just sit back and smirk as it does. Speaker 12: How cheap? Speaker 5: Ahead, Gail. Sorry. No. I wanted this I just wanna go to a hand. I I see Andy's hand up. We read Andy's dad's name last week, and I wanna hey, Andy. Speaker 15: Hello, everyone. Good evening. Been a while since I've been on the space. It's great to hear everyone's voice. I just wanted to come on and give everyone a heads up, actually, some good news about, my fight. I have not found a courtroom yet, but the man that did what he did to me, the administrator, had a nonprofit five zero one c three that I guess was some kind of leadership crap, whatever he was doing, training people how to be a leader, whatever. Anyways, he took down his website, chrisyork.com. And, I'm gonna guess maybe his attorney advised him to take it down. I, you know, over the years have been very public about what he did and through some of his, professional profiles and, you know, his website, there were people that said, hell, he's this great guy. You know? So I would reach out to these people and show them my website and what he did. So I guess over time as I've done this, it's like a like, you take an ax and you're just cutting down a tree. You know? Just taking swings at it. And I think I finally cut down, maybe not the whole tree, but a branch, a very large branch, from this man's career. So, you know, and it's a fight. And this is that's really what this is. I'm fighting I'm fighting, for, accountability, number one. Number two, creating awareness, and that's what you this space is about, and that's what CHBMP is all about. And I heard I heard a man or a gentleman speaking, John. John is on the money with everything everything you said tonight, John, I completely agree with. And there's, I think more people just need to, be active, politically and really push the envelope. Now that we have Trump and Kennedy, that's nice. But we also need to maybe go to more town hall meetings. Maybe go, write something down, a little five minute speech. This is what happened to me. And then go go to the senate health committee in your state or write to them or whatever. Call someone. Yeah. Enough people did this. You might start to see, criminal, like, criminal referrals going through criminal investigations on, you know, people that like doctors, nurses. I heard someone earlier tonight say they wanna, they've never seen a politician, get arrested and be tried for crimes. Maybe one day we'll see that. And if enough people, put an effort to do that and, you know, enough people get active, you're gonna get that result. So, but so far, I've, you you know, I'm I I just launched another campaign, about this administrator, and, I'm just gonna keep going. So if anyone is, a victim like me or Gail or anyone else, just keep going. Trump, I saw a recording, earlier today, and I reposted it on my profile. And Trump was doing his little rant, and he said, you know, I the most successful people I've ever seen in my life are the ones that never give up. I agree with them. I do too. Speaker 5: You know? Never ever quit. Speaker 15: Anyways but, bless you all. I love you all. Keep keep up the good fight. Keep sharing, your stories, and keep connecting with other people. And, God bless America. I'll see you guys later. Speaker 4: Bye, Andy. Speaker 15: Take care, everyone. Speaker 5: It's really it really is important to, really is important to to tell your stories. And as many of you know, I've been you know, Vindog has been and Mick has been telling having a lot of victims on and telling their stories. And, I if you want to go, especially on VIN dog, Mick kinda handles her own calendar, but, you know, you can reach out to me. VIN VIN dogs, Wednesday and Thursday at 5PM central are the days that he's having, victims on his show. And I'm trying to fill up April and the rest of March. I have next week is full, but the week after, if you are interested, please reach out to me because, you know, I've got the twenty sixth and twenty seventh open and then beyond. But, Thursday, that's two days ago. My husband, Huckleberry, because I'm Huckleberry's wife, was on. And he's, we're going to tell part two of our story on Wednesday. We talked about the hospital experience and escaping the hospital on Thursday. And on Wednesday, this will be the first time we fully talk about the rest of the story. Everything that it took a lot of people ask us, hey. What did you do to get how did he save me? Basically, when I was on 60 of oxygen, and he took me home. And he's gonna walk through that, the things that he did. And we're gonna talk about, for the first time, the trial that's coming up on April 9 Speaker 4: unless Speaker 5: by some miracle I mean, we're going on four years here or this is the fourth year. You know, he's going to he's gonna stand trial. And so we need everybody's prayers, and we need we need to tell the story because juries are unpredictable. And it's gonna be hard to educate a jury and have people believe that they were murdering people in hospitals. So I say that to say in the Wednesday or, yeah, in the Thursday show Thursday show, I we started calling out doctors and nurses as well, and I think that's really important to call them out, to name them. This is the name of the doctor that tried to kill me. This is the name of the nurse or the doctor that did indeed kill my loved one. And Andy does that. I'm this is what's making me say this. Andy does that on his stuff at baylor.com. He he outs the, you know, the police officer, the, the nurse that in you know, that euthanized his dad at the end violently murdered him, the administrator that the cocky administrator that he just talked about. It's really important that we name and shame these people. They're murderers. I'm not talking about the nurses and the doctors that just were cowards or didn't do an didn't do anything good, but didn't do you know? I mean, they still you know, they kept their their cowardice caused death. But there there were there were doctors and nurses in many of these stories that are on betrayalproject.org that were so arrogant about murdering their victims. They wanted to see you dead if you were not vaccinated. They want they they tried they tortured people for their status, their shot status. I mean, I was one of those people. And there there's a clear difference between just the mediocre or not great nurses and doctors and the truly evil serial killer brand of nurses and doctors. And so, yeah. Speaker 4: Gail That's I want I want to ask you something, if I may. You said that part two is coming up on Wednesday? Speaker 16: Yeah. Wednesday. Speaker 4: And you said you were gonna tell the rest of the story and that a trial is coming up on the ninth. Are you able to share and if you're not, that's fine. I totally understand. Are you able to share if this is a civil or criminal proceeding? Speaker 5: Oh, it's a criminal. He's he it's it's a felony. Speaker 4: That's what I I thought. Yeah. And I want people to understand that he's being charged with a felony for trying to save his wife, basically. Speaker 5: And it Yeah. And it's and here's the thing too. Like like, my husband's gonna be 60 this year. Right? He's gonna be 60. He he served his country. He was a captain, promotable when he left the military, who left after Desert Storm. And he, he was a nurse. He was a good nurse in his civilian life. So he he has never been charged with a crime in his life. He he matter of fact, he was a huge back, the blue guy, and believed that they would help us. That that's the conservative blindness that we we we both, me and him, had rose colored glasses on when it came to the police, when it came to authority. Right? Like, oh, they'd never lie. Right? Like, they'd never lie. You know? Where there's smoke, there's fire. There's a lot of things that we believed that we no longer believe, and and that's why we say it's gonna be the death of conservatives if they don't take off the rose colored glasses. We're conservative by nature because we follow rules, and that rule following that that respect for authority, Tamir killed us. Speaker 4: I want to say because I'm sure Gail can't say it. But I can tell you, the real crime is being committed by the people who are persecuting, not prosecuting her husband because and you heard what I said. Persecuting, not prosecuting because, you know, speaking as a military wife, her husband is the same as my late husband was. He followed the rules. He loved his country. Mhmm. And I can guarantee you, excuse my French, I don't cuss very often, that no patriotic military person would ever knowingly commit a crime. And I can promise you that her husband did not. So it is an absolute travesty that they are using this opportunity to punish him for having the audacity to go into the hospital and save his wife. And that's exactly what it comes down to, people. Speaker 5: I'll tell you. You even if even if they had told him ahead of time that he was gonna be prosecuted, he still would have done it. Because, for him, all he knew was, if he didn't do something, I was gonna die. Speaker 4: Right? And, obviously, god intended for you not to die because for those who haven't heard the story, it was providential how he got into that hospital. They were watching for him. They were they you know, usually, the door was locked. So, you know, this was god's plan was for Gail to be alive to tell this story, and it was God's plan for her husband to take the hit to save her life. So, you know, all I can say is these people who are persecuting him and and her, they are purse they are actually persecute they're actually working against God god's plan, so they need to be very, very careful. Speaker 5: They were very evil. I will say that. That's why that's why I felt like I had to out a bunch of them because the the evil was just I I I can't even describe it. I don't know if there's any other I hope there's other survivors on. But the evil that existed in the hospital was I I can't even describe it. I mean, we were definitely under some level of, I don't know, spiritual attack. Speaker 4: Well, 100%. You know, evil wanted to kill as many as possible, And God's plan was different in your case. And in many people's cases, there's other survivors that have been on here. Some people that I think it was, maybe, was it Tanya that was in the hospital for months and they tried to kill him. He was even on a ventilator for a period of time. Speaker 5: Yeah. Two forty five days. Like, there there's a few people, you know, like, Delilah Delilah is I always I know I'm pronouncing her name wrong. But her husband, Rocky, was on right? He was on, he was in the hospital for nine months before he died. But I I have to say, like, every single, survivor that I can think of, there was some type some type of, intervention that and we that Speaker 4: resulted in them not dying. Right. Some kind of, I believe, divine intervention. And I will tell you this, and this may be hard for other widows to hear, but I have recently come to the hard realization that, you know, god and god only controls life and death. Yeah. The devil seeks to kill, steal, and destroy, but God has the final say. And so you have to realize, I've heard other people say, our loved ones were in a war they didn't know they were in. Well, some of them were also casualties in that war. Okay? And because god has the power over life and death, though those casualties weren't in vain. They're they're that happened because then we were drawn into this war too. And so that people might know the truth. And, you know, one of the things that really touched me today was, you know, in my prayer time. This little phrase came into my mind and, you know, god's basically let me know that Bob gained his reward. And the devil thinks he won, but he didn't because now I'm in the fight and many other people are in the fight for the same reason. And so many more people now know the truth than what that would than would ever have known. So, you know, it's like any war. There's gonna be casualties, but, also, there's going to be a reckoning. There's going to be truth that's known. There's just like from World War two, we found out the truth about what happened in the concentration camps. We found out the truth about so many things that we would never have known if they hadn't overplayed their hand. Same thing is true in this war. So I think we have to keep that perspective and realize that we are fighting evil and we are in a war. There are going to be casualties. There's gonna be people who are wounded who live, but we all have to fight together. Speaker 1: Yeah. Exactly. Well said, Miriam. Speaker 5: Yeah. So that was kind of a so sorry. I kinda went down a little bit of a downer road there. Speaker 4: But I mean, I think it's important to talk talk about it. Yeah. Because it It was it down a road. It helps Gale. Who are dealing with it. It helps it helps the survivors because, Gale Gale, I know you know this. You know, as a survivor, people think, well, why did I live and other people die? You know, there there's there's a risk of survivor's guilt. Then on the other side, there's people like me who are, well, why couldn't my husband have but see, you can't you can't you have to not you have to ask the questions, but then you have to know that no matter what, we're all in the same war together. You can't get Yeah. You can't get mired down in that because if you do, the enemy is gonna win. He's gonna win. Speaker 5: And, you know, the crazy thing is is he was indicted, like, right after our story hit the epic times. Oh, of course. Yeah. I mean, that was, you know Speaker 4: It it punishment to try to shut you up. It's punishment to try to shut you up. Speaker 5: And they, you know, they didn't leave him any choice because he called the police the day before he went in. Right? Like, he he called them to basically to basically protect his right to be there because we had we had no patient left alone legislation here in Texas. Had loopholes in it, but but they he asked them to do that welfare check. And I told the officer all the abuse all of the abuse and everything that was happening to me and that they were gonna murder me, while nurse William Fripp stood in the room and shook his head no, which shouldn't have been a thing. He shouldn't have been in there when the officer was doing his welfare check. But the officer never looked at the bruises all over me that I told them existed. Never, you know, never came past the door. Never came past past the door. Just said, oh my god. We don't have a protocol for that. He left me there to die. Had he done his job, it my husband wouldn't have to go in there. Speaker 1: That's right. It's no small irony that even that came back around to protocols. He couldn't help you because there wasn't a protocol in place that he could follow. People are not empowered to think for themselves and act in these occupations, and that is also a matter of concern. Well, and that's the thing Speaker 2: is they were denying people the ability of a right that they had, the right to refuse treatment, the right to say, look, I I I may be sick, but I have a a husband. I have a situation. I, like you've said before, Gail, you would rather die at his hands than be murdered by these people. And you have the right to say, no. I'm going to leave. But they weren't allowing that. And and even if they did, they were like, okay. Get up and go on your own, and then the people would, you know, stand up. Maybe their sats would drop. They would pass out, and then it'd be like they had you. That was it? Oh, and you. They had her effectively Speaker 4: imprisoned by the fact that they had gotten her into a state where Yeah. Yeah. They were gonna kill her. She couldn't go because she might die because of the state they had her in, and they knew it. They knew it, and they were doing it on purpose. That's right. By the time you're by the time you're even Speaker 5: several days or or a few days, much less twelve days or more, but the the reality people people ask that a lot, and and rightfully so, they ask, you know, why didn't you leave? Well, the increase of oxygen, the very quick they very quickly increase your oxygen. They very quickly put you on a catheter so they don't have to deal with you. They very quickly do a lot of things that trap you to the bed, and you atrophy very fast. I I was shocked. Speaker 4: I was shocked at how fast For anybody I know this as a PT, within two, let at the latest three days, you lose muscle mass, significant muscle mass. And people don't think about the fact that you have to have a muscle to move your lungs as well, and it's called the diaphragm. Okay? So they once they get people in there for more to two to three days and turn that oxygen level up, you are not getting out under your own power. That's right. You're not. Right. Exactly. Speaker 5: And the fact I mean, I I don't know when I lost the ability to walk. I don't know if it was at four days or ten days or twelve days. I thought I was still gonna be able to stand up and walk when Huckleberry barged into that room, and I was shocked that I couldn't. Speaker 4: Yep. And that's the truth, guys. And it doesn't take true of everyone's body. Two to three days, and that's it. Okay? That's exactly what happens if you do not get up and wait there in two to three days. And and that's without a respiratory issue. Okay? That's without COVID. So that's why at all cost, you want to stay out of the hospital. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 2: And and I was gonna say, you know, that was one of the big things, all the time was people now this was even I mean, you know, we're talking prior to COVID. I mean, just basic nursing care. You know, you get anybody in the hospital who's sick and they lay in bed too long and they become debilitated, you know, not just your legs, but, you know, in your ability just to be able when you're if you can walk to breathe and walk at the same time, it's it's extremely difficult. You know? Yeah. Speaker 4: Peep yeah. Yeah. Not to not to mention the fact that you get something called orthostatic hypotension, which means if you stand up, your blood pressure bottoms out when you pass out. And that happens without being dehydrated. And with being dehydrated, it happens even faster, and they were dehydrating people. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 4: Yes. So, you know, again, you have to have food, water, and exercise and movement in an upright posture. If you do not have those three things within three days, you will not be able to move under your own power. Speaker 7: Right. Speaker 5: Yeah. So be praying for him because the there's a pretrial conference on the April 4, and I'm hoping that this will go away. Right? Like, I mean, it's the oldest case. His case is the oldest case in all of the courts in Collin County. It's the oldest case. Speaker 4: Yeah. I think they're only you know, and I don't know for sure, but I think the only reason they're still pursuing this is because you you refuse to shut up and rightfully so. You should you should never and Huckleberry should never. And this is just their way to try to punish you and keep you quiet. Well, they've got another thought coming. Speaker 5: And I think what's really sad too, like, is all of these you know, we've been working really hard in Texas to try to get county DAs to look at these cases throughout the state, right, in every county. And all but two have refused because our AG, Ken Paxton, cannot, impanel a grand jury unless he has a referral from at least one county DA. That's how it works in Texas. And so it went out to the county DAs to try to get them to look at these. And the fact that they won't do it, but he'll jack around with this is pretty sad. Speaker 4: And Very sad. Speaker 5: You know, I I'm I'm a I'm kind of almost at a loss as to, you know, what to do. Like, there's part of me that just wants people, like, to write these DAs and be like, yeah, this is this is my like, they they have to know this is going on. People were murdered. Like, so many people were over a 100,000 people were murdered in hospitals in Texas. That's just Texas. And and then there's the all the attempted murders and then the number of times that people were made, like myself, made a DNR when I wasn't. And that's in my medical records that we said we were a full code, and they they made me a DNR. That shit's illegal Speaker 4: on its face. It sure is. Speaker 5: So, you know People should be going to jail just for that. Forget about the COVID crap. Like, it makes me so mad, but, you know, but here's here's also the thing. I can't ever like, I I can't shut up. Right? Like, I mean, my husband was right when he took me out of the hospital, and he told that nurse, like, you better hope she dies because she's never gonna shut up. That that is like I can't shut up. God did save me. And every single time, I every single story on betrayalproject.org, every time I publish a story for one of the interviews, I am just number one, I'm thankful to god that I'm alive. Right? And number two, like, how would I stand in front of god at the end of days and say, you saved my life, and I didn't do anything about what was going on. This is a freaking holocaust. It's a it's a democide, and people are still dying because we're still freaking getting calls. It's, I mean, it's frustrating, and it's painful at the same time because there's 33 people in this space right now, I think. 33 people. It's literally about COVID related crimes against humanity, eyewitnesses speaking out. 34 people. And people should give a damn that crimes against humanity are happening. I think people think, oh, COVID was so 2020, 2021. And it absolutely wasn't. People are still being diagnosed with COVID or the flu Speaker 1: or whatever. Speaker 4: Yep. And they're still withholding appropriate treatments and then labeling the patient whatever they want to label them for the next fear porn like that poor child that they didn't give breathing treatments to. Maybe we need to call this space this space is something like Speaker 5: bioweapons bioweapon crimes against humanity or gain of function crimes against humanity, eyewitnesses speak out. I don't know. Like Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the thing is, it's all hospital homicide, isn't it? It does it doesn't really matter which protocol they use, what they label it. It it doesn't matter. It's you go in, they kill you. It's hospital homicide. And I I think now the system is geared in that direction. It's it's already been primed, and they're just gonna keep throwing something at the wall until it sticks as another pandemic. But in the meantime, they're still killing people, and they will continue to do so. Speaker 5: Yeah. Let's get to some of these hands. I see I've kinda hogged the space a little here. I'm gonna go in this order y'all, so keep keep you're gonna I'm gonna ask you to remember it because I I even though I wrote it down, I'm gonna forget it. And I think I see all of the hands, but I'm on my computer and sometimes I don't. Katie, Gary, shine, missing, Matt. Katie, Gary, shine, missing, Matt. Katie? Yeah. Speaker 10: I was just coming. Well, your story is big. And, yeah, definitely gonna be praying for y'all. I'll even be inside if you want me to, for the hearing. As for, the point I was wanting to make by the way, I'm vaxxed injured, but, I'm I'm here to help everybody. So, and I was just making the point that for from when I worked with Caroline Barina. I I was working with her, I think it's in '22, when we were when they did a raid of, a the lab in California. And that was, after having learned that they had also they had always kind of moved the, the lab, from, I think, Georg don't quote me on Georgia, but definitely Texas and California. They'd kinda go out in the middle of nowhere and and take a building, and use it for the lab, even though, you know, the the protocols for for such a lab, weren't weren't, met. So sorry. I'm having a hard time speaking these days. And I I got to take a look at some of the photos and working with her on on describing how the engineering, protocols were broken for, the type of of, protection you would have with these buildings to keep chemicals from dispersing out of them, or whether it be aerosolized or, or a solid or liquid. And it was astonishing. Speaker 12: It's pretty much like Speaker 10: it was some haubank sort of, fast food restaurant that had, you know, had gotten taken over by a local place because it's a small place out in the middle of nowhere. And that that's that's where they were doing their, their their testing. So I I can't remember what what town it is because I was gonna try to look it up to see it if anything was proven, if, they dispersed any anything bad around the community. But, yeah, we we've had we've had laboratories, going around all over the place and driving them to and from without the right safety protocols. So, I was, I was not officially one as control systems engineer, but, I worked very closely with two safety engineers, on the safety at in, the IBM location in, in Boulder, Colorado and to keep everything there. So just speaking on, from my perspective, having worked closely with them and, teaching some safety classes, to some technicians. So, Yeah. That's, that's what that's the only reason I came up. It's a it's a bit ago that y'all covered it, but, as always, I I can agree with all y'all y'all are talking about right now with hospital protocols as well. And, I'm here if you need me. Speaker 4: Alright. Gail, I don't remember who was next, but hopefully, the next person does. Speaker 1: It was Gary. Speaker 8: Yep. Speaker 6: I think I think, unfortunately, the, you know, the hospital protocols have basically desensitized these people to the point, you know, they think they're that, you know, they have no qualms about doing a lot of stuff that they would never have thought of doing before. And it's not just just for COVID. It's it's for other stuff, and you're starting to see it proliferate through the other protocols. It's really it's really scary what's going on. Speaker 10: Yeah. I'm gonna put in the purple pill just on Gary's point, kind of a questionnaire from '22, in in regards to that subject. Speaker 6: Hello? Speaker 12: Dead air, guys. Speaker 4: I we may be having some sound problems. So whoever is next, please jump in there. Speaker 10: I got kicked out earlier, so, totally get it. We might be having some technical issues, guys. Speaker 17: Hello. Yeah. This is Sean. I just wanted to say maybe, one of the things to do with the the upcoming court case, Maybe we need to just get your story out, and start trying to walk Twitter with the story. And, like, maybe even everyday to start putting your story. We all just out of the group. Put your story on Cash Patel's timeline. Maybe it would give some direction to looking at it. Just a thought. Speaker 5: Yeah. I thought about that. It's kinda why it's kinda why I'm we're doing this two part with Vindog, and then we're gonna do with Mick. I've told my story a lot on a lot of platforms, but Huckleberry, Brad, my husband's name is Brad Seiler. He has not, been out there in the media as much, And I so we're kinda chain we're kinda shifting gears a little bit and putting his name out there. And I don't know if that's gonna be a good thing or a bad thing. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know I don't know what the right, you know, truly the right response is. My my husband is a god fearing man, and so he had he he is one of those people that he's he doesn't just talk god's ear off. He's a good listener to god. Right? So when god tells him to jump, he doesn't even ask how high. He just jumps, which is a good thing. It's one of the reasons I'm alive today. Right? And he, you know, he he trusts the Lord in this, and I do too. But I also tend to like to put my human hands on stuff, and I don't know if that is the right thing. You know, I I believe you can pray for a hold, but God, you know, God's gonna give you a shovel. Right? But so I don't know. Like, I, yeah, I I would appreciate everybody sharing sharing the story. And, I think the episode we did with Vindog on Thursday was two and a half hours, and that was just the first part of the story. Wednesday is gonna be the rest. One of the other reasons we want to tell the other half of the story is because we do get a lot of people asking us asking him, even doctors, how did you do it? Like, how did you take her from 60 liters of oxygen and almost dead to, you know, alive and very few consequences? And so, he's gonna talk about that as well. Speaker 1: But, yeah, it's something to think about, Sean. I'm so glad you guys are doing that because it all needs to be on the record. Your story is a particularly horrendous example of protocol abuse And, and many other people who went through the protocols or had a loved one go through the protocols have so many open questions that your story, getting all those details out there might answer for them. Speaker 4: Yeah. Speaker 5: Especially when especially when people like, a lot of times people say to us, I wish I would've right? I wish I would've gone in and grabbed my loved one. So we do want them to know how hard it was because, you know, I I could've number one, I coulda died at home. Right? And number two, if the roles had been reversed, if it had been Huckleberry in the hospital, I wouldn't have had the know how to get him through those first seventy two hours. Right? Speaker 1: Right. So when most people are hearing your story and kicking themselves, like, oh, if only I had intervened and dragged my loved one out of the hospital, they would still be here. Not necessarily because the the measures that Huck had to go through just to keep you alive were really extraordinary. Speaker 4: And I can speak to that as well. You know, I have a medical background, and so I knew exactly what was happening to my husband. But there were, in my case, they had the ICU door locked with a numeric code. They I could not get a lawyer to help me at all. They had security there. They rapidly advanced him onto the protocol despite both of us saying no. So there are times when there is literally nothing that you can do. And, you know, you can you can what if it, and you can even know the entire truth. And sometimes there is literally nothing that can be done. Mhmm. And sometimes you have to put yourself and your loved one in God's hands in that case, and you have to find some measure of peace with that. I have. That doesn't mean that I'm not gonna fight with every ounce of my body because he was murdered, and I will never be quiet. But you can't let anyone, yourself included or the enemy, put that thought into your head that you didn't fight hard enough because you did. Sometimes you're not going to win that fight, and that's a horrible thing to say. But I've had to come to peace with that. There was I wasn't going to win that fight. So But, Miriam, you you're gonna win the war. That's right. That's right. And this is what I remind myself. My husband was 60 years old. On average, we've probably had fifteen years. Okay? Mhmm. Well, fifteen years were stolen. Alright? Absolutely, they were. But I will have eternity with him one day. And the people who did this, unless they repent, they will have a horrible eternity. And that's just a fact. I'm not wishing it on them. They have the same choice as everyone else. They they can repent for what they did, and I have already forgiven them if and when they repent. I've already done that because my god calls me to do that. But if they do not repent, they will be more than appropriately punished for all of eternity. And, again, that doesn't mean I'm not gonna fight for justice in this world. It just means that I'm looking at it the way that I believe God wants me to look at it, and I'm looking at it in a truthful and way in which I can remain in the fight. Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a total labor of love. Speaker 5: And when when I when I say people need to out these doctors and nurses that were horrible, I don't mean from a perspective of revenge even, but the public has a right to know. Right. Truth is truth, Gail. Truth is truth. Yeah. The the public's right to know and the and the safety of the public. Absolutely. If there was a serial killer and you knew who it was or a child rapist and you knew who it was, That's why they that's why they have a registration. Right? Because the public's the public interest the public's right to know. So that's why they have, when there's nurses and doctors with complaints against them, that's why it's public because you have a right to know. Speaker 4: It's not slander if it's true. Mhmm. And it's not libel if it's true. And for those of you who don't know, slander is telling the truth, libel is writing the truth. But and, again, truth is important because it stops the evil that's happening or at least makes people aware so that they're not blindsided by it. So, yeah, we should never be silent, and we should always tell the truth. And we should name names. Speaker 5: Yep. I agree. Speaker 2: Well, I just wanna say, and I don't wanna cut anybody off because I know there are other hands out there, but that is a total and complete labor of love because that is that is, like, transcending. You know, your your loved one was was taken from you. You continue to fight on that. That fire still burns, and I think that that's important for people to hear as well that it doesn't matter the the time frame. You know, this is this is a total and complete labor of love. And, you know, we would be we we would we should be ashamed of ourselves if we didn't. You know? Speaker 12: I agree. Yeah. Yeah. You you'd it'd be it'd be a shame if if you didn't fight on despite all of this. That would be a shame. Speaker 4: Exactly. There's no shame in losing a battle, but there is a shame in laying down and losing the war. Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. And and I I think that's that's the other reason why I say that this is a labor of love because it will it will never stop. You know? It it will continue on. And I I I say it all the time, but I I believe that's why God brought us all together, you know, because we're, you know, we're stronger united, and, the voices matter. The testimonies matter. Speaker 12: Yep. The people who are gonna platform the matter. Right. Speaker 5: Well, we got hands up here. So who was next? Was it, Speaker 4: I think it was missing snowman. It's Missing snowman. Speaker 5: Yeah. Hey, missing snowman. Speaker 9: Hello. Can you hear me? Speaker 4: Yep. I am. Great. Speaker 9: As usual, I'm quite tired. So if I sound, too relaxed, that's why. Yeah. It's lovely to be back. I've not been on for a while. I have always had so many thoughts. Well, I have a great many thoughts when I'm away from the space. But then when I hear people speak, I've just got thoughts pinging in my head. I'm trying to think of something useful and interesting to say I'm trying to tie some of these thoughts together. I have, I have a lot to say, really. Yeah. A measure of peace. I think I think that nails it. I think to sort of desire, a 100% peace is, well, worthy, clearly, but it's, I think you know you're always gonna be disappointed with that. I have a great many contradictory thoughts, you know, about forgiveness and revenge and justice and what would justice look like and what would victory look like, and lying down, which I I sort of, in many ways, I have been doing for the last probably coming up to almost two years now. For those, just a a brief recap of of our story with Oliver. We had a very fierce fight, a, from birth because he was born with serious congenital brain damage. So it was always a fight with the medical system to keep him alive and to keep him at harm's length away from the medical system because we saw very quickly how they pathologize everything, and they've got a medicine for everything. And we knew that Oliver was robust when in balance, but we knew he could go south very quickly. And it's it's it spins off into one of my other thoughts about Oliver's story in particular because having lived it and seen it and, obviously, you know, being the sort of resident expert on on my own perspective. I don't see Oliver as just, a poor, extremely vulnerable, but rather rare and unique sad case. I I do see that, but I also see the great parallels with other people's stories and also the universality of of, you know, his messages as it were. Because he was so pure and vulnerable and, you know, you read the bible and, you know, in theory, the goal is to aspire to be Jesus without sin. And, of course, we all know deep down that that's that's virtually impossible as a human being. But for Oliver and for people like him, that is their natural state of being. A bit like old people that get Alzheimer's and some of them are reported to become kinder, and they're just very much they've dropped all their ego because that's gone. And, they're very much like a dog living in the present, and and there can be a great sense of peace being around them. I'm I'm speaking less from experience on that because I've not actually had personal exposure to serious dementia patients, but that's what I've read. And that's what Oliver was. He was just the present being. And, no one wants to be Down's kids are that way as well. Down's kids. Yeah. They're very happy and loving, and and we find that embarrassing, because often, you know, they they might get sexual and it's inappropriate and, you know, that that's terribly embarrassing for our civilization. So he was pure and without sin. And like I'm saying, no one wants a disabled child. No one wants to be disabled. The idea of having a car accident and having a broken back or being paralyzed is, you know, most people's it's up there in the top 10 worst nightmare type thing, because we enjoy being able to move around and do what we like to do, and that's very important for selfish human beings. It's not necessarily selfish. I don't mean that negatively. But having lived with Oliver, well, it was eighteen years until he went into care for two years. We could see a value to his presence here on Earth that the bean counters can't there there's no ledger where someone like that can provide value to our capitalist society and so on. I mean, anybody who spent time with him, which was rare, really. He had a very small world. You know? It was the grandparents, carers, his sister, school. But often, those children like him are described as lighting up a room because they don't judge you just like a dog. I mean, it sounds crass to compare my son to a dog, but anybody who loves dogs knows it's not a a trivial sort of, well, puppy love. But it it is a deeper, you know, spiritual type of connection. It's just being and it's peaceful and it's the lack of judgment and so on. And it's easier to be yourself around people like that, and you can, take the weight of the world off your shoulders. And it's it's nice. You know? You might not want it all the time, but so it's a long winded way of saying Oliver had value. And so I think, you know, we all do, even our enemies. We're here on Earth. We don't really know why, but we're here. So clearly, we belong here. It's just like that was a thought I had when I was in infant school. You know, you think what's it all about? Well, you're here. It's like the question is kind of the answers in the question. So why is any of this relevant? Well, the different ways of of fighting. There's the court cases, which I'm interested in. We went through the court system numerous times. We had about three court hearings against the forced vaccination. We had, three inquest hearings. Some not full hearings. One you know, the first court hearing for the vaccine was cut short because the doctor didn't show and things weren't ready. And then we had the proper court hearing, and then we had the appeal. And then we went to inquest and that sort of fell through and then the coroner left and then he was replaced by the guy that I asked of him. This is a very senior coroner in The UK, by the way. He wrote some of the guidelines. Very strange to be sort of one of the epicenters of of UK COVID history and having been able to see the madness sort of almost before it was happening and to live through it with such a unique perspective, having touched so many different facets of it, having seen the hospital protocols, the care system. But it's not just such a unique story that has no relevance to the wider world. And this is what frustrates me as, you know, I keep shouting and sharing most friends and family that you don't talk about it. I mean, it's embarrassing to be living your life and and know somebody who's lost a loved one, and you you don't know what to say to them, and there's nothing really you can say. I don't know. Maybe share your time with them and so on. And so I'm I'm not too bitter at the lack of willingness for any almost anyone to talk about Oliver. But when they do, it's like, well, he was sick and he, you know, he wasn't long for this Earth anyway. And they don't see that he was murdered, essentially, over a very prolonged period of time, but very predictably, very avoidably. But there are huge parallels because he had a loss of freedom merely through lacking mental capacity and being trapped in the medical system and then especially in the care system when we couldn't provide the umbrella to protect him any longer. But that's exactly like and almost anybody going into a hospital now, they go in. As a family member, you've got very limited legal rights. You may have power of medical attorney. But in reality, it's almost, meaningless. We've seen the court system up close. We've seen them perjure themselves knowingly. They might think that the ends justify the means, and I'm not even talking about sort of a more active genocide that's taking place. But a lot of these people, the vast majority of the people involved in this, are oblivious to their part in it or they're oblivious to the the centerpiece of of how they're responsible. You know, we we know our own lives. We know what we turn blind eyes to often, but sometimes we don't. Sometimes we catch ourselves and go, what was I thinking? And I'm amazed that more doctors I don't really like saying it out loud, but I am amazed and incredulous that more doctors haven't committed suicide. I wonder how many have that we don't know about because the media suppresses almost everything of interest. And I I do feel partly, and this is where I'm contradictory because half of me would like to see them hanging from lampposts and so on for natural justice. But there there's a significant part of me that feels sorry for them because when they do wake up and realize what they've done, if if they ever do in this lifetime, well, they're but they're go but for the grace of God, go I sort of thing. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. I wouldn't want to wake up one morning and realize the part I played in in in this catastrophe. So I'm rather ambivalent about what the future holds justice wise. And I mean ambivalent in the true sense. So, you know, I hold all opinions. But where do we go from here? I mean, partly, my idea of winning the battle for for me personally is I'm trying to heal. I'm not actively sort of participating as such at the moment, but I do think about it a lot still. And I still want to try and write Oliver's story in a coherent fashion where the public can understand why his story is relevant to them, you know, because the human rights laws, if they can't protect the most vulnerable, they don't protect anyone. And, you know, I'd like to think that they can protect people and protect me selfishly. You know? I'm sort of a lot of my thinking is long term selfishness. You know? I do believe in society and the good of humanity because that's good for me. You know? And, of course, there'll come a time when I'm not here, and then it's about the younger generation. And so I do want to stay alive to be a witness to humanity and to tell the story about this is what happens when humanity loses its mind. You know? We've read it in the past. In The UK, we've got Remembrance Day every eleventh November where people just meaninglessly chant, we will remember them, you know, the fallen from World War one and two. And it's like you're not remembering them. You're not remembering what they died for or the pointlessness of it or the necessity of it and why it could happen again. That's the real memory. It's a lesson from history, a warning from history. It's not merely, oh, the the young men died. Oh, how sad. You know? The only reason to remember it is to try and avoid it happening to innocent people again because we know it will. Any history book, any movie, all the lessons are there. But, you know, it's it's like The Matrix, you know, Cypher wants to live in bliss, but we all like to think we're Neo and the hero and but we saw that wasn't the reality come COVID. Almost everybody wanted and chose to live in bliss and ignorance, and they're still doing that now. And I think deep down, a lot of people know something's wrong, but they're too busy planning their holidays and, you know, and living and paying bills. And it's it's hard trying to dedicate your life to a cause, and I I mean, that's what we've done for the last few years, and I've certainly felt the burnout from that. So I'm trying to take the space, and I'm not hearing any voice from God about what to do. But I'm conscious that if I sort of do nothing, I'm creating the opportunity to do something different rather than get back to just a well paying job and pay the bills. You know? My purpose, it feels to me at the moment, is to heal, to try and make sense of the story, and and have the patience for when people are willing to listen to it. And that comes to we're we're now planning a really nice bike trip in Spain, which is quite epic for us. We've never really been bike touring at all. And it's been precipitated because my wife's, friend in Australia, and, you might remember past conversations about just how bamboozled the Australians have been, how they really, drank from the water cooler, and they're they're still completely brainwashed. This lady is, a cancer nurse, and she's very pro medical, thinks anything approaching the real truth is just heresy, to the point where my wife really doesn't think I should spend any time with this woman because she knows I like to speak my mind, and I can be quite blunt. But the things I point out you know, I'm I'm literally pointing at an elephant in the room as we all are and we all have been. And we know what it's like when you can't make people see. And this comes back to the Bible and all the quotes about, you know, pearls before swine and and there's some quote about blindness and the the lack of discernment. That's a big one, you know, for the for the evil ways and sins. So I'll send, I forget the quote, but, you know, a a spell of, lack of discernment. And it's hard to think that the people that have fallen victim through their own blindness and and lack of discernment and lack of cynicism, which is awful, because we ought to be able to be innocent and naive to an extent. But, to think that they were victims through sin, I I'd rather think of sin as the proper sort of Greek translation of missing the target from the old archery term and not necessarily just through evil. You know? But there does seem to be I'm I'm not a particularly religious person, but I have become quite spiritual. I haven't been as many as of as of us have of having walked through you know, the quote about spiritual people have been to hell. I'm losing my train of thought here now. But, the the right there is so much wisdom in the Bible if you can read it with, I don't know, just an open mind. And, again, it's a history book, really, and it shows that humanity for all our new bells and whistles and toys and even AI, we haven't really progressed very much, not spiritually. And speaking of AI, that's the next major threat is AI taking over the hospital protocols. And now we've got in The UK, we're following Canada's lead on, the assisted suicide. And that you know, I'm sort of showing my age now, I guess. I'm approaching, you know, my mid fifties. But I still think the world is as it was when I was, you know, 15 or 20 when it was unthinkable, especially in England. Absolutely unthinkable that we would have doctors, you know, helping people commit suicide. And, I mean, it's the other other elephant in the room. The debate that's taking place in public isn't a debate at all. Nobody has discussed the Supreme Court cases which looked at this subject in-depth and came to some very safe conclusions that there were no safeguards possible that wouldn't fall victim to the slippery slope. And, you know, we all know that the safeguards aren't worth the paper they're written on. And while this genocide is taking place, the people that are really responsible seem to be doubling down and accelerating their plans for, you know, chaos, essentially. And it comes back to the madness of crowds, the old book from, I don't know, the eighteenth and nineteenth century, you know, the tulip bubble and all of that nonsense about how crowds go mad en masse, but they only wake up one individual at a time. So forced to be very patient waiting for humanity to self correct. And I'm confident, you know, history shows humanity does self correct. You know, like when we invented the nuclear bomb and then we were horrified by it. But by God, you've got to be patient. It's just ridiculous. And it's it's very traumatizing having been through the trauma of it all, and still people aren't waking up. And it's like, how long is this gonna take? And so eventually, you're left with well, really, it is it does come down to faith. You have to believe that things will get better, and you must be patient. And you try and do small acts of kindness or at least don't do acts of malevolent. And you come here and you talk about it, and it's very great to hear other people's voices and and to know that you've not gone completely mad. But, yeah, I guess I've run out of things to say. I mean, hopefully, that's helpful to people, and it's nice to be able to say it out loud. So thank you again for the space. Thank you very much. Speaker 5: Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, missing snowman. Speaker 4: Gail, if I could. Missing snowman mentioned AI and the likelihood that it's going to basically subsume the health care industry and be instrumental in for continuing to push the death toll. So I'm just gonna put a substack in the purple pill. There is a particular bill, h r two thirty eight on congress.gov. I'm just going to quote from it. It says h r two thirty eight this is from January 1 01/07/2025 this year h r two thirty eight to amend the federal food, drug, and cosmetic act, otherwise, FDA to clarify that artificial intelligence and machine learning technologies can qualify as a practitioner eligible to prescribe drugs if authorized by the state involved and approved, cleared, or authorized by the FDA and for other purposes. So I'm gonna put a Substack link along with this screenshot from the Substack so that you might want to read this one. Speaker 9: Yeah. That's fascinating. That needs to die on the vine. That needs to die on the vine. It's a very potentially powerful tool for good, but it's a a marvelous tool to increase and solidify the accountability gap where no one is responsible. I mean, we've Yeah. Exactly. Already almost perfected it. They don't need AI, but AI will you know, I think it will be used as a weapon and the icing on the cake for Yeah. Accountability. Speaker 5: It's that's crazy. Yeah. And you can't you can't possibly account for the individual dynamics of a person. Each person has that's why no one size fits all health care. That's very that's very I mean, and I'm seeing it happen, you know, like, where there there's some, you know, there's some benefit to AI in health care when it comes to electronic claims processing, right, or updating systems or whatever. Speaker 9: But We're just using it to speed up mistakes, you know, with differential diagnosis and so on. In theory Oh, man. Used to speed up getting to But once you remove the human from the system, it's like, well, why are we here? Speaker 5: Right. Exactly. And and like you said, it definitely leaves that gap of who's responsible. If something goes wrong, who's responsible? Speaker 2: Some Yeah. Very I saw an article the other day about how they were using it for all kinds of diagnostics for physicians. Like, all they have to do is put in and say, okay. You know, they have this symptom, that symptom, and it spits out all these recommendations for the physicians. And and it goes through, you know, what their what their, you know, course or pathway to course that should be. And I'm thinking you've gotta be kidding me. It's it's like all they have to do is just, you know, what, Google Speaker 5: from now on? I mean, that's yeah. That's the crazy part. Right? So Yeah. I mean, do you remember They're not even treating Do you remember the the cartoon? It was, like, 2014 or 2015. It was an animation. It was big hero zer big hero six with the big white Yeah. That yeah. That was it. Yeah. Big Yeah. Was it big hero six? Yep. Yeah. That's the name of it. Yeah. And it was like, I cannot deactivate until you are satisfied with my care. I like, that's what it reminds me of. Right? But only bad care. Because, like, like, what do you they already are they already were like robots. Right? Like, I tell people this part of my story all the time. When the nurse came in, this was the first couple days. The system, the scanner system was you know, they scan you like a piece of fruit when they wanna do something. And the scanner system wasn't working, and I had a I still had a fever. And she literally had Tylenol in her hand. And she couldn't get the scanner to work, and she was like, I can't I can't give you this. I can't get the scanner to work. No. It's like, literally, you just have to pop open the the back of the package and just put it in I'm like, literally, you could do it. Like, there's these things called pencils. Like, you could write that down on something they call paper, and then, like, you could go and put it in the system later if you must if you must. Or I can just have somebody give you a credit card number. You can just run the credit card for, like, the $150 it's gonna take me to take those two bills. But, like, she literally couldn't do it because the scanner wasn't working. She couldn't figure out a workaround, like, a workaround. Like, I can't even imagine Speaker 2: That not was that in the policy? Was there a was there a an SOP on that? That's exactly You do a competency Speaker 5: because I'm not sure. It, like, the the SOP. Right? Like, I don't know. Like, I can't Speaker 4: See, it seems like, you know, the system has surgically excised their brains, and they just float around and do exactly whatever the little system tells them to do. That's right. Because if they weren't like robots, Speaker 5: then it would be like in the olden days when when there were good old fashioned physicians and nurses where they looked at the evidence. They looked at the evidence of what what was happening, and they would see, oh, this protocol is killing most of the patients. Maybe we shouldn't give it. This protocol is saving all of the patients, maybe we should give it. Right? Like but nobody they didn't go down that path. So, Speaker 2: that's why I call it the Stepford Wives moment, you know, because they just they just followed along. There wasn't any questioning. Don't question. Just move along now. Flip to page five. What does it say? Follow steps one through four. Speaker 5: Yeah. Exactly. Well, I do want to tell people, if you're there and if you're out there listening and you want to tell your story or you want to well, especially if you wanna tell your story. Hit the little microphone, and we will we'll let you speak. I see Gary has his hand up and then Matt. Speaker 6: Yeah. I was gonna say the you know, when the doctors start doing that, once they start playing in with that, you know, to that type of, you know, variation of medicine. They're all they're doing is is eventually ushering in their own replacement, you know, basically with, yeah, you know, basically, what's gonna happen is they'll be replaced by AI eventually as well. And I don't I don't see how that they can't see this. But, unfortunately, so many of them are captured because they're in these networks of of, farmers, you know, doctors' clinics. And that it's just it's just the worst thing that ever happened to the allopathic medicine was the one they started doing that. Speaker 4: Yeah. Unfortunately, we as a society are addicted to technology and technology making our lives easier, and doctors are no different. You know, if they can go through their day and just, you know, ask AI to do the job, they're not gonna think any past that. They're gonna go, wow. Look. Look at all the money that I'm making, and I'm not working near as hard. I'm not having to think about it. You know? What a great thing AI is. Unfortunately, that's what we're seeing societally. You know, again, there's some great things about AI, but when you give over your own independent decision making, your own thought processes, and you let something else think for you or make your decisions for you, you are treading on some dangerous ground. Speaker 5: That is true. Matt, you got your hand up. We're we're also we're gonna read the names in a little bit, I think, because nobody's wanting to speak. Speaker 12: Weird, ain't it? Yeah. I know. You know, you know, Miriam, this takes me back to to a conversation you and I had, where where we talked about this very thing. And the issue is going the issue is that I think we're gonna run into with AI is is that how how much should we use it? Because, eventually, it's like anything else, a drug or otherwise. You become dependent on it. And the and and the the the problem is going to be with can can we can we how are we gonna be able to navigate that? How how much we use it? How much do and then how much do we depend on it juxtaposed with how fast is it advancing to where we've gotta keep up with to where can we keep up with where where the with the pace that it's going? And so that that is a real concern of mine, and that's and it's not just as it relates to medicine, but to everything. Because because if you're if we're not careful, this this thing, it it's gonna this technology as whatever you think of it, is going to advance in ways we can't foresee. And, unfortunately, you've got people in the in that space, no pun intended, who, who who think it should advance faster than others, but they all think it should advance nonetheless. Nobody's nobody's really trying to, tamper down or, or or say, hey. Maybe we shouldn't maybe we shouldn't allow AI to advance this far. Like, nobody and nobody's saying here and no further when it comes to AI. Speaker 1: Well, we don't tend to tamp down, technological progress. Right? It's all Yep. Speaker 4: You're right, Chelsea. We don't. And, what I'm concerned with is the people like Yuval Noah Harari who says, well, you know, when when people no longer have jobs and AI takes the jobs, we're just gonna have to drug people and give them video games because, you know, otherwise, what are we gonna do with them? They're pretty much useless. I mean, he's already verbalized that. You know? I think that that was a bit of a red herring on his part, though, because, yeah, you know, they might wanna drug some some of the population and give a video games because, you know, you can make money off of giving them the drugs and you can make money off of selling them the video games. But I think, you know, their genuine plan is to, you know, only do that for about 500,000,000. The rest of us, they really want to get rid of because we are useless at that point. And I think that's what it comes down to. I mean, again, AI can be wonderful for humanity, but it also can run the run the systems that they want to have run, be physician, be a number of things, and can replace people in in many functions. Speaker 1: Right. When he talks about video games and drugs, I don't think they're even thinking about selling them because it's hard to sell products to people who don't have jobs. And he's talking about, basically, a post economy world where there is no Right. There are no jobs necessary for humans to do. There'll be UBI, universal Speaker 4: basic incomes, and I promise you it'll be a passive pull to make you pay for your drugs and your video games from the income that they are providing you, and then the money goes back in their pocket. It's once again a laundering thing. So you know it really optimizes their control and their income. Speaker 1: The one thing about AI though, I don't think it's gonna run away from us. Yeah. In the way that sci fi has long predicted. It's a tool. It it requires a human hand to guide it, to to Speaker 4: Right. Use it in whatever capacity you're using it. So I mean about is I mean, at this point, it can't even take meeting notes correctly, to be honest. Exactly. And what what I'm concerned about is way, way off, but what I'm saying is I'm concerned about the people who will be controlling it because there there there does have to be people who run the system. And the people who tend to own and run the larger systems are exactly the people who were the bad players in COVID. That's what worries me as you can see the handwriting on the wall. Speaker 5: That's why we need that's why we need to take them down and have that transparency. Right? But I'll tell you again and I I hate to sound like a Debbie Downer here, and I'm not being a Debbie Downer. This is reality. The reality is takes more than just a handful of people to stand up. The if the masses are willing to be led to the video games and drugs, then that's what will happen. That's what will become of our country. Speaker 1: Right. Like, we're we're just a small handful of people in this group, and it appears to be a dwindling number of people who continue to to care vehemently about these COVID related crimes against humanity. And if if the majority are willing to avert their eyes and continue forward without acknowledging any of the harms done, then, what what Gail's saying becomes ever more relevant. Speaker 5: I mean, I want you to look at three things and just these if you even look at just these three things in America that have happened over the course of the last couple decades, and in particularly, we saw it in the last eight, you know, eight to ten years, and particularly the last four years, we became the number one. Our country is the number one consumer of trafficked children to from 18 old up for sexual exploitation and slavery. We became the number one country that imports those children, and we're not outraged and stormy in the streets. We had political prisoners held without trial Speaker 4: For years. For four for four years. Speaker 5: 13 over 1,300 of them. Over 1,300. Speaker 1: Thousands of Americans for years without freaking charges. What? Speaker 12: Right. Over 1,500 Speaker 5: of them. Over 1,500 of them. And we didn't Speaker 1: rise up. Like, that wasn't enough. We we actually set up Everybody was too scared to rise up after that. They didn't wanna go to gulag too. Speaker 5: Right. They were like, here's my first amendment. Right? Have it because I don't want you to thump me on the head. Speaker 1: So that was not I hope they don't send me to the camps and take my children because I didn't get my third booster. Speaker 5: Right. Exactly. Exactly. We and we sat down. Yep. And then you had, the death camps and the shots, the bio weapon. Millions of people have been killed by something that our government created and then sent incentivized. Speaker 1: Those were millions of extremely rare deaths, Gail. Get it right. Right. Speaker 12: Right. Allegedly. Allegedly. Speaker 5: But we just sat down and we did not we, but the majority of Americans. Speaker 4: And and do you know why, Gail, I think so many people in The United States are that way? Because I just read a statistic today, and it's true. Do you know that The US is five percent of the population? What we consume, 55% of the world's drugs. 5% of the population, but we conserve we consume 55% of the world's drugs. I mean, look. I have family members who are, one in particular who's a psychologist, and she's got herself popped up on on, SSRIs and all I mean, she's on, like, 26 different medications, and is only she's well, she's 16 younger than me. So that's because she's 52. 45 years old. Okay? We have entire generations of people that the way they cope is pharma. So so no wonder they aren't able to functionally stand up and have a spine and think. It it it's it's incredible what pharma has done to the world and to this country. Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 10: Can I say it starts with the shots, though, typically? So I'm I'm I'm just speaking from the fact that I have to be on a ton of medications. Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. Speaker 10: There there's of my back's injury k. For cumulative complications. Get it. There are complications. Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, you know, if it makes you functional, that's one thing. But if it shuts you down, that's another. And there are so many people that Yeah. That don't engage in life because they are seriously snowed on medications. Look. It's about the outcome of the medication, not what the medication is. Okay? And that's why you can't let them do that to you because you if if you get so many medications that you're nonfunctioning, that's exactly what they want. So, again, it's it's the outcome. It's not the medication itself. There's plenty of actually helpful, but you can't just indiscriminately go into a physician's office and this you tell Yeah. Them and they shove a pill at you. It's great. Like, ask them what the goal is. Like, okay. What's the goal to get you off of a medication? Right? They never have it. They never have a plan to get you off of a medication. They treat a side effect with a side effect with another pill with another side effect. It's incredible. No wonder people are nonfunctioning. Speaker 5: Yeah. No. The and I get it. And I get it. And and there's also I'm a little hard on on our country and what it's become. I I also think that we, the public school systems and all of that, and we're we allowed it. We're no longer we're not problem solvers. We're not go getters. We're, excuse makers sometimes. And that you know, there's Speaker 4: Yo. You are so right. The schools are are a big part of the problem from personal experience. I have a son who's now 35 years old, and when he was in preschool, in kindergarten, first grade, they were like, oh, you know, he's got he's got ADHD. He's got and I'm like, no. Yeah. He does not because he's doing fourth grade work at home. He's getting is he doing his work? Yes. And then he's getting up and running around the room. Okay. Well, he's doing fourth grade work at home. I have told you repeatedly that he's going to get bored. He's five or six years old. You need to give him work at his level, but they would not advance him either. So So I ended up pointing him to a psychologist, getting him tested, getting him tested, and then proving to them that it was their problem, then they shut up. But I guarantee you, they would have medicated my son into oblivion Oh, yeah. If I had not done that. Speaker 10: And you're correct. You're correct, Miriam. Great book out there. Speaker 5: It's a little bit older of a book, but it's called the war on boys about how Speaker 10: It's not just boys either, Gail. It's it's on girls too, and and that's why Well yeah. But they they And I'm I'm talking about when I was Matt's age, that that's what I was doing was going to going to speak on yeah. I'm I'm making fun of Matt's age here. Anyway, when when I was in my twenties, I was I was giving speeches before the FDA on on, on on stimulants for ADHD because I do have ADHD. I do I did have a need for it. Unfortunately, my migraine's too heavy for, headache. It's currently too heavy for me to take it, to the benefit of of my functionality. But, regardless, I made a big point, in my speeches before the FDA to to point out that it is it is dangerous for and the and the speaker right after me, and I totally agree with this, they had a son who died of a heart failure, which just ironic considering what, you know, what the this vaccine has done. But there are a lot of medications that shouldn't be taken by by kids, especially, stimulants, and especially ADHD stimulants. And and I I made a point of that, in my speeches. And and and that was largely because I remember, my last, semester nearby at a school. It was a private school. I I I I went in for for just I don't know what it was. I I guess I was having a headache one day, and I I went in there, and I used to be the only person who was taking medication. And, yes, that was mostly the anticonvulsant stuff, but also for for my for the Ritalin for ADHD. But, there was way too many bottles in there, and I knew they were all Ritalin. So, and and that shouldn't be happening to our kids. It needs to start with the parents and and and and go to the school system too because sometimes you need to put them in other classrooms. And especially if they're they're overperforming, they need to be, which is the case with too many of them, sad to say, which I helped. That's what I've been doing before I came here on access was helping parents of of such children to, you know, find, you know, through through, legal means, for how they're how how to support their children in the schools, because they were extremely intelligent, but they were treated like they were disabled. It was it's ridiculous. Speaker 4: You are so right, Katie, because what they want is conformity. They don't you know, when you have 40 kids in a classroom and you have one kid that, you know, is ahead and some kids that are behind and most maybe that are in the middle, you're you don't wanna deal with the outliers. So what you're gonna do is drug the ones into conformity and label them ADHD because and it's so sad because you're you're you're snuffing out of potential learning brain there is what you're doing. And, you know, and this is the typical mindset that the medical system seems to have. It wants to shove everybody into a a box and just label you and shove a pill at you. And that's the danger. It's there's nothing wrong with taking a medication when you're properly diagnosed and you're properly treated by it. But the problem is they don't do that anymore. They don't do that at all with the kids, with the adults. Nothing. It's okay. You have a symptom. Okay. Here's the pill. Out the door you go. Speaker 10: Yeah. I think they were trying to to avoid, diagnosing too many kids with autism as well. And, that's what my doctors have passively one had actively said it, but couldn't officially diagnose me with it. But I'm I'm it's it's well understood that I'm actually on the autism spectrum, versus, you know, having ADHD, which I think was, you know, what ADHD sorta is is basically on the mild end of the autism spectrum. So, I think I think there's a lot of misdiagnoses in in wake of that too. And, of course, it's it's really hard for me because, you know, compared with most, I I had ADHD. Of course, this was because my brain damage, and and even the even the people in DC who who I gave speeches on behalf of was against me pointing out my my brain damage, because they're largely liberal, but I'm like, nope. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna not tell the truth. I'm still gonna tell the truth here, so you can't keep me from it. Yeah. And and that's that's something that, you know give talk. I kind of am a rarity for being, you know, one of those few disabled people that it it was actually intelligent, on the gifted scale too. So it's it's extremely difficult for, for for patients like me, but for for other children merely being called ADHD. It's it's it's just you're putting in medications that are gonna make them, like, I worked with some adults as well that, would take crack because or some other stimulant and cause more brain damage to themselves. More And, yeah. Also that aren't treated with just psychological protocols, just see a psychologist, can come up with some behavioral, strategies to, excuse me, cognitive strategies to to change, Speaker 4: anyway. Yeah. Well, you know what, Katie? That's that's work, and a lot of those medical professionals don't wanna do that. That's that's the hard way. Right? Yeah. That that's it's I'm very jaded in case you can't tell. And that's why I feel like it's so dangerous to have, you know, to program AI and go, well, if you have this symptom, this symptom, and this symptom, this is the drug that the AI can prescribe. Do you know how much overlap there is in all symptoms between all different diseases? I mean, there there's very few that have a single defining symptom. So, I mean, it it's I I don't know. I it just very much concerns me. Speaker 2: Well, and even the polypharmia, I mean, you know, it's just drug on top of drug, and they interact with each other or they they just diagnose out of a simple, you know, okay. Well, the lack of anything else. Well, this this is the the fad diagnosis at the time or the fad fad you know? Yeah. Speaker 4: You know, drug to give and off you go. This depends on the patient to actually tell them everything they're taking. Yes. Yes. I mean, it it it you know, there's so many combinations. There's so many, symptoms you can have from different combinations of things that you may take or something you may so, again, it's a very, very much a powder keg situation. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Amen. Amen. 100%. I can't tell you how many people we had who, you know, became suicidal, and it was simply because of all the polypharmia that was going on, just things interacting or, you know, one would one would work, but it'd make, you know, their other symptoms bad or it would interact with whatever drug they were taking. And, you know, it was just like, oh, you know, here's a purple one. Here's a blue one. Here's a green one. Take that. You know? It's like, wait. Give me a break. Hold on here. Speaker 4: It's like the pharmakea version of Skittles. Yes. I mean, it's Yes. Insanity. Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Speaker 10: For sure. I can speak from experience in that one, so I actually prefer if it's different colors. It's easier to find out if I'm missing a pill or something. So Speaker 4: I remember my home health days, Katie. Patients would you know, a lot of times, we wouldn't have nursing in because they would just have a orthopedic surgery or something as a PT. And I would have to do all the intake, all their medication re reconciliation, and they would have pills, like, laying out, not in a bottle. And they go, well, I think this one is is this one, and I think that and I'm like, o m g. Okay. Seriously, not even funny. And I'd go, well, do you know what you're taking this one for? No. But my doctor said I need to take it. And I'm like, ugh. So it I don't know. I think having people interface with an AI driven system is just an absolute recipe for disaster because there's no human interface between them if and when that happens. Speaker 10: I agree. What about blood work? Going through it. I just wanna say a quick hi to Hippie. She's in here too. She and I have gone through long term vaccine injury, not just COVID vaccine injured, but also, MMR vaccine injured, and and, there's a lot of long term ones here. I just wanna give a shout out to her because there's a lot of us that that have been working behind the lines for a very long time and, and are best equipped, and she's been one of them. So, Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I'm so glad, Katie, that you brought hippie dippie up. Hey, hippie. We've all been so concerned about you. I'm so glad to see you on tonight. Tell us how you're doing. Speaker 8: Hi, everybody. Little short of breath right now, but, yeah, I made it through, pulmonary edema. So, I just got back yesterday. I think it's yesterday from, observation. And, so they rolled out the any heart issues, so it's all lungs. And, that was quite the quite the twenty four hours. I actually did have some really good, nurses who, you could tell they were frustrated having to work within this medical model and, you know, they were limited in what they could do to help and whatnot, but they were very good. I was talking to Gary earlier about the food is garbage. And, the, when I was getting a test, I was encouraged to drink a can of Coke for the caffeine to which I said, great. Let's just give some more high fructose corn syrup to a diabetic. Great job, guys. I said, no. I will not be drinking that. Take a test without it. I don't know what else to say, but it's been a it's been an adventure. Speaker 12: Oh, yeah. Doctor Angela talks about that high fructose corn syrup all the time. Speaker 10: Thanks for coming, Hippie. Been praying for you, and, hope you feel better soon. She does a lot here, folks, so please, give her a follow and a like and, like some of her stuff. She's awesome. Speaker 1: We're so glad you're okay, Hippy. We'll be praying for you. Speaker 8: Thanks, guys. Speaker 6: Get the phone numbers. Hippy, get the phone numbers so that in case something happens. Speaker 8: Yep. I think, yeah, I think I think everybody at CHPFP have all my numbers just in case, and I have given them to my sons in case they need some help. So yep. Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Gary, for for all your concern about Hippie, and thank you Hippie for coming on. So sorry you're going through this. John, go ahead. Speaker 11: Yeah. I was gonna, go back a couple of a a little bit ago, to AI, and, y'all were talking about the growth of it. And and I was listening to Glenn back. This was about six, eight months ago. And the technology that took the iPhone from 2008 until 02/2024. That same technology is duplicate was was done in twenty four hours through AI. That same technology has grown in AI in twenty four hours, and AI is doubling its capacity every 48. And the scary part is the people and this is one of the reasons why Elon Musk left Chegg PPT because the people that were inputting the information originally into AI were all liberals. And so ChatGPT leans far to the left. And and this is this is from Elon, an interview, I think, he had with Tucker Carlson, I believe. And so, I I think AI is the greatest threat to mankind. I I truly do. And and and the reason being, you know, they're talking about doctors and and typing into AI, and the AI says we'll do this. We're gonna have a a group of doctors that that won't know any difference. They'll prescribe a drug, and it may be a drug that that maims someone or kills someone. I mean, I I there's a movie out there called Eagle Eye is was, the guy, Labov, Shari Labov or whatever. Anyways, it's about a, and it it's it's a pretty awesome movie. It'll scare the pants off you off of you. And and, my, my youngest son, graduated with a, oh, gosh, software engineering degree. And he is fascinated with AI. And and and he watched the movie, and he's like, yeah. I can see that happening. And that's that's a really scary thought when, you know, the the the strength, the technology that AI is get is getting. And every day that we ask it something, we're just feeding it more information. And and, like I say, they interviewed Glenn Beck, he he talked with someone. I can't remember the guy's name. And they were talking about it, and and, you know, he this gentleman was pretty knowledgeable, and he said it's a scary thought. And from my understanding, that's why Elon, created Grok, on x was for the sole purpose of having an AI that was not, did not that did not have the potential to cause great harm to the world. Except for except for Gorak is now Speaker 5: it will admit that there's a, that there's that the shots are causing fetal demise in animals, but then spewing that it's safe for humans. Like, I don't know. Has has anybody seen that Grok is also doing woke things? I mean, you know Not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not. I mean, you know, Speaker 4: that's the whole problem with AI is it it it doesn't operate on logic, like, in the sense that we think you you know, if we realize that an animal is harmed by a vaccine, we realize that human beings can too. So it really does depend on what's fed into it. It it isn't able to make that lateral transfer of reasoning. And so it's you know? Yeah. It it's a problem. Speaker 5: I get why you created it, and I had high hopes for it. But Speaker 11: Well, I I think anytime that you try to make technology into human, you're gonna dummy the human, and technology is gonna control. And and and I think, I'm I'm not an expert. I know nothing very, very little about AI other than the fact that it scares me to death. Speaker 1: Okay. But here's a a hypothetical for you, John. You have an AI that has eclipsed the singularity, and it's artificial general intelligence smarter than any human on the face of the planet. Say it's got a 250 IQ. And then you've got your doctor with his 98 IQ who's read all the books and done his thirty years of med school and has his degree. And both of them have different ideas about your treatment. In that case, are you still are you still gonna take the the human with all his fallibility and his Speaker 11: sub, you know, subpar IQ? Well, you know, that that's a really good question. My concern would be that that that the eye or the AI has absolutely no feeling. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 11: No heart, Speaker 5: just knowledge. And here's what it is. Let me tell you this. Huckleberry loses crap on this. The it it takes there's things that an I that AI cannot do to assess a patient that involve touch, smell, take that it there are senses that the AI cannot do. And then a proper assessment of a patient requires those five senses, the visual, the touch, the, you know, the AI can't touch to see if my skin is clammy, if it's warm, if it's cold, or whatever, but the human being can. The human being can watch my verbal cues and or sorry, my visual cues, my body cues, my, you know, that type of thing where somebody would have to feed it into an AI. Speaker 4: And, you know what I mean? Like Yeah. Yeah. I I anything that the AI cannot do. Gail, another point that people don't think about is, you know, I see I see patients regularly, and they will have had all of these diagnostic tests. I mean, MRIs, x rays, all the diagnostic tests, labs, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And I will finally see them and they have, you know, a pain going on. I had a kid who was 16. He had been for every test in the book, and he was having pain along his one side. They looked for liver problems. They looked for kidney problems. They did labs. They did X rays. They did MRIs. And, you know, that's the problem with a bunch of data or diagnostic tests. Sometimes it requires a real human being to look at them, put the whole picture together That's right. To the patient. And this kid, you know what his problem was? He had he had just started running track two to four weeks earlier. He started having this pain, and then it would, you know, it would hurt when he started running, and then it might hurt for a few years after a few hours after, and maybe, you know, say a dull throb for a day or two, and then it would go away. But as soon as he ran again, it would start again. Well, you know, they had all these tests on. Well, we don't know what's wrong with you. We don't see anything. I look at him, and I'm like, so you just started running. Let's look let's look at your let's look at your leg lengths and see if that's I want you to know he had a leg one quarter inch shorter than the other from birth, never broken anything. I put a lift on his shoe. He started running again, and his pain never came back. Now they had given him medications, pain pills, all this stuff. So I don't think you can take you cannot take humanity out of medicine because if you do No. I mean, give me the old That's the problem. Speaker 2: On people. Speaker 5: Give me the old fashioned doc when you say, hey, doctor. My my arm hurts when I move it like this, and he says don't move it like that. You know what I mean? Rowan Tree woman that asked. Speaker 1: Sorry. Rowan Tree and Rowan Tree in the chat asked, do you think AI could work in conjunction with medical staff? Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yes. And I Yeah. I I I that on time. But it's not I don't know. Hard of care where patients can access it, give their symptoms, and then prescribe stuff. It's it's dangerous. It should not be immediate access without a person in the process. Speaker 11: To to answer your question that asked me if if I would trust a 250 IQ AI machine over a doctor, and I said, AI didn't have a have a heart. I I would probably lean towards the doctor and and simply because he can do things that AI can't do. And that's that's the greatest fear that I have is that if AI starts diagnosing patients Yeah. What's to say that AI won't misdiagnose patients? Speaker 1: I just after after seeing the the doctors over the last five years adhere rigidly to hospital protocols that had absolutely nothing to do with the the health or history of the patient? I mean, it's a it's a good question, isn't it? It's one of those really interesting conundrums. Speaker 5: But regenerative AI was it has been in place in health care for a very long time, and that was part of the reason that they just read the protocol. They the the only difference is is to this point for the last, I don't know, since Obamacare was when we started using AI. But in to this point, it's been, hey. Let's load the system with the top 30 protocols or the top 20 protocols for this, this, this, this, and this. You know, these common conditions. Right? And and then they would just get loaded across the system. Right? So depending on which system the hospital used or the doctor's office used or the clinic used, you would have protocols already preloaded. So they've they've been doing it, and and they've this is what happened during COVID is the result of just that little bit of AI be you know, just that little bit of conditioning being used where they couldn't think outside of it's no different than, Internet. Right? So Internet is, you know, we're we're dumber for having it's, you know, it's the information highway. We have access to all this information, and we're dumber for it. What we're and we're dumber for it because we don't we lack the skills to research and dig and find information. Well, I mean, like, any who, you know Well who who It's too much information. The two big decimal system to find a freaking book, you know that it's like Exactly. Speaker 4: And part of the problem is, you know, it's not just that we don't use our brain because we don't research. It's also because you can get actually get too much information so you can't sort out what you actually need. You drown the truth from the You know? Yeah. And and there's the problem. So then people are like, well, I'm not even gonna try because there's there's just too much there. Let's just let the Internet tell me. Let's just Right. And people need it Speaker 5: and people need it in, you know, a 150 characters or less or, you know, just little sound bites. Memes, that's why memes, people will believe what's on a meme before they will believe what's in an article. And and for the record, I just wanna say, like, 90% of the doctors, I wouldn't trust either. That's a no. I wouldn't bad. I wouldn't trust AI. I wouldn't trust the doctors. But but there are good doctors that I know that I would trust. You know, I trust doctor Bain. I trust Scott. I trust And Speaker 4: Well, doctor Witcher. I trust those people is a good thing because it can give them It can give them that they haven't considered, and then they can think about it and sort it out and maybe make an even better treatment decision for you. But I just that the direct interface between laypersons and AI for health issues is a good idea. I think there needs to be a caring practitioner who knows the patient personally, who can maybe use that tool to to enhance the thing. But direct interface is a bad bad idea. Speaker 5: Because, you know, one of the things that my husband always harps on is, the fact that a nurse's care plan has that there there's no nurse's care plans anymore. And he was so pissed about that in my own records and the way that I was treated in the hospital where he was like, you know, a nurse's care plan has nothing to do with medications or or any of that. It is it is literally, you know, going in and practicing per slip breathing with the patient or going in and and teaching the patient something. AI can't freaking do that. It takes a nurse to do that. The nurse is that's her responsibility. And so I, like, for that Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I think nurse nurses catch leading edge condition changes that an automated system is just not going to do. An experienced nurse, you know, caring nurse who actually goes in the room with their patient and spends time with them, same way with the doc. You know? There's no substitute for that. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 2: That that's exactly right. I can tell you that, you know, I mean, I used to round with the docs all the time, and they would spend, you know, multiple hours sitting around a table discussing the person. You know, and then they go in and maybe look at them for maybe five minutes, and then out the door they would go. And who would it be left up to, you know, twenty four seven? It'd be the nurse. So you better have a nurse who understands pathophysiology and who understands what's going on in that situation and not just looking at their monitor. It used to drive me crazy. People would sit there and be like, oh, look. My art line is is dampening. Their blood pressure's lowering. I'm like, no. No. You need to fix their art line. You need to assess what's going on rather than just looking at the monitor, looking at the number, and going. You gotta lay your hands on people. You know? And I tend to Yeah. It used to drive me crazy. This used to just it used to hack my angles all the time. I called it the triad because they would hold their stethoscope over the the left hand side of the chest, and that would be to listen to their lungs, the heart, and the abdomen. I'm like, no. No. No. You gotta move that stethoscope around. But it it would drive me crazy all the time. They do the triad, and I was like, that's not a proper assessment. Speaker 4: And it's not about being perfectionistic, is it, Mick? It's about doing it correctly so you get information so you can make the right decisions. Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Because you may not be able to hear that they're wheezing in the back bottom of their lungs, you know, from the front holding it over their heart where, you know, you're like, oh, yeah. I get to hear all the lung sounds like stop it. Stop it. Yep. And that's why sorry, Mick. I'm sorry to include you in this, but us old dinosaurs, Speaker 4: we are the young ones' worst nightmare. Oh, yeah. Yes. Speaker 10: Yes, ma'am. That's where AI has already taken control. I I think that using a a stethoscope has gone down the toilet. A lot of them don't carry it anymore, and that's what got my cousin in in trouble because he had, mild, asthma, but he hadn't had it had a had had an attack in several years. And and and then when he he he actually swallowed it and, apparently oh, excuse me. Breathed up a, what are those blocks called? The plastic ones that everybody played with that the the Oh, the Lego? Lego. There we go. One of the tiny Legos was was in his lungs. So and and he knew his mom knew that. And it's like, use the stethoscope. Use the stethoscope. And the the hospital wouldn't do it, so we get they had to go to another hospital. It's ridiculous how, you you gotta use the old school stuff to get it. Sorry. Speaker 2: It is. Speaker 1: On the on the subject of grok, Lexi messaged me and said that doctor Nagase or Nagase DM ed her warning of Grok. He said when you force Grok to reprogram itself to analyze topics, it has been banned from analyzing. It says there is an 80% chance of conspiracy to govern of government to hide information about COVID and a 90% probability that there was a murder conspiracy against him. So, that is interesting. I I pinned, the article she posted from the doctor in the next, so check that out if you're curious. Speaker 4: Yeah. And, everybody, you really should follow. I think his first name is Daniel Nagase, n a g a s e. He is, very much, one to be followed. A font a font of information and on the leading edge of all things COVID. Speaker 5: Hey, Wendy. Let's we should, read the names before we go on. Speaker 1: Okay. Is protocol ready? Protocol widow ready to do that? Speaker 3: And if not, we can No. Go to the next I'm here. I'm here. I was I couldn't clear my screen from something else, and I'm like, it won't let me open my mic. Oh, dear gosh. Wait. You were multitasking? Speaker 5: That was I. Speaker 12: If I Who would have guessed, right? Yeah. If Speaker 3: if I don't multitask, I'll snore. So I can't just can't do it. I've been up too early and out here in this fresh air all day. Up with the chickens. Yeah. Up with the chickens. Doing more work in the yard than I've Yeah. Well, suddenly Speaker 5: And it has to be tough putting going out there and putting those little masks on the chickens every day so they don't get the bird flu. Speaker 3: Yeah. And, you know, the little twits don't appreciate how hard I am working on that. Speaker 4: Protocol. I just I just want a picture or a video of it, please. Speaker 5: She doesn't put little she she doesn't put little masks on them, but, you know, I found out you can you can give a chicken nebulizer. Speaker 3: I saw I saw a picture of a what was it? A duck that was Duck. My yeah. My niece. She Are you serious? Lord. Speaker 5: She nebulized her she's had this duck for five years, and she loves this duck. It's the name's the general. It bosses all the other ducks around on her little farm there. And so there's a naturopath lady who makes colloidal silver, and she's like, put it she goes and works for everything. Nebulize your duck. And so when the duck got sick, she brought it in the bathtub, nebulized that it got better. And so now it's sick again. Speaker 10: So she's trying to Oh, lord. I did. Speaker 4: I did spray colloidal silver in my baby's ears when he was getting ear infections, and he's not had one ever since. And he was getting every two or three months. So colloidal silver does actually work. I've heard it. I've heard it so many times. I need to get me some. Yep. You can get it. You can even get it on Amazon, and it's a good product. Want, Gail? I'll send you a picture of mine. I'll give you a half a bottle. I'll give you a whole bottle for that matter, so don't worry about it. Speaker 5: I've started actually we started using methylene blue about a month ago. Put it in milk so your teeth and your mouth doesn't get blue. I learned that. But, because it's dye. And I have to say, it's it's true. It does work for a lot of things. So Wild. I'm I'm becoming a believer on some of this stuff. The the energy and the brain fog and the kidney function is all improving. So good stuff. Anyway, let's go on to Speaker 1: Names? Speaker 5: Yeah. We had put out that we were gonna read the names Speaker 1: Okay. Whenever you're ready. Speaker 3: No. I'm ready. Just a reminder because I don't know if there's anyone in our audience who is not, a regular listener. We try we aim to look into our database at the COVID nineteen humanity betrayal memory project and get the names of the dead, from whatever COVID related, crime against humanity they might have suffered from, in beginning with the date of today, which is the fifteenth today, through Friday of this week. This week, we have two names. Couple of weeks ago, we were we were reading 30 to 35 some nights. So it's just the ebb and flow of what has happened to our country. Stick with us, and this list will begin to get longer starting about May, probably. Charles Knutson was killed on 03/18/2022. His story was told by his sister, Suzanne Kuseman. Lawrence Justice junior was killed on 03/18/2022. His story was told by his wife, Christa Justice. The members of former Feds Group Freedom Foundation and the COVID nineteen Humanity Betrayal Memory Project want to extend our deepest sympathies to all of our families for these horrific crimes. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Terry. And I have penned, the full list to the next. It's also in the purple pill. So you can, go see all the all the names and all the stories of, victims who have documented their story with us who are facing an anniversary over the next month on that page. Speaker 3: I find it and I I don't know if anybody Chris, I see the the dates. I follow the dates because I try to arrange my list by date. Both of these poor men, 03/18/2022. And in a database our size, I just think that it's kind of, interesting statistic to have both men on the same same date, same year. And just for the people who aren't, like, connected with us on a on a regular basis who might be listening right now, the majority and I don't know what the percentages are. Chelsea and and Gail may have a percentage, that they can offer. When it comes to the hospital protocol deaths, it's very obvious, at least by dealing with the people who come regularly to meetings or who comment or make, questions or or send emails, Almost, I'm guessing eighty five maybe percent of the victims were men of all age ranges. Yeah. Speaker 5: I think so there there are I go kinda go by the statistics of, of those that died in the hospital. Like, you almost have to look at okay. This is every the total if you look at the stats of everybody who got COVID, some form of COVID, COVID pneumonia, COVID flu, COVID, you know, COVID plus plus, a plus plus, and you look at the statistics of where they died. Right? There's a very there's a sliver of a percentage of people who died, at home, And I would make the case that they died of the protocol too because they were didn't you know, probably they were probably like my friend, Valerie, who was denied early treatment, told to go home, and then she died in her sleep, or people who left the hospital protocol, but he died at home and wasn't, you know, in the number that they would say died in the hospital. But I look at the if you look at the people who died in the hospitals alone, you have to assume they got the protocol because there was only one protocol. Right? And and so, when I look at that, that's where I typically get the one point six million, and that was it that's counting because that number was what we had in, when they stopped when they changed the transparency on the data, it was at the May, and so we know that it continued. But at that time, the the percentage male to female, it was about 65% were male. I think, the reason it's higher for men is men are more compliant. And so I don't really kinda trust so much the sampling or the data that we like, I I trust the data we have. Don't get me wrong. But that's that has more to do with the number of people that came forward, and men are less likely to come forward and tell their stories than women are. Wives are kinda pissed. Right? But if you look at the overall data, it certainly was sixty five percent men. The reason I think more men were killed in the hospitals is number one, they're compliant when it comes to medical stuff. Number two, we hear this time and time again where the wives will say, I my husband counted on me to make medical decisions for him. Right? Like, I always went to the doctor with him. I always, you know, helped make those decisions, and and they depended on their wives for that. Yep. And so when and then you have another factor is men are protectors, and these you know, men are typically protectors in a marriage, and so they don't want their wives to worry. And so they don't they kinda play play down how they are. Oh, I'm I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing this. I can tell you if Huckleberry had been in the hospital, he would have been more compliant than me because I already had a distrust of doctors before all of this. And so that probably worked to save my life, but he was very regular in going to the doctor. Very it was very important to have a medical history and, you know, maintenance and all that stuff where I was like, if it ain't broken, don't fix it because I don't trust doctors. So I I think that, yes, there there is definitely a a lean towards men, and the numbers I I'll I'll have to pull pull them up, but the numbers were about sixty five percent were men. Speaker 3: I, I I also think to your point, I mean exactly to your point, because the the patient is isolated and in many cases isolated from the family members, not even on, you know, not even available to talk or text or whatever. Deborah points out, our Deborah points out that she believes that her husband, because she was a nurse, will probably believe that she was calling the shots from outside of the hospital. Yeah. And, you know, and what you said, in my case, my husband was used to me making all the decisions for medical stuff. You know, he if they if the if the hospital hospitalist or the nurse that he was dealing with needed their car fixed, he was the guy. But when when it came to health things, he relied on me. And is it possible that that he was thinking that I was agreeing for things? Oh, it's easily possible. I couldn't talk to him because I couldn't understand him, and I didn't also didn't understand why part of the reason that I couldn't understand him was because they had him drugged on two different types of drugs at the same time. Brasidex and Ativan. Did not did not understand that. Nor did I understand everything that it's amazing all the stuff that we've learned. Brad has told us, not not Huckleberry, but Brad Geyer. Yeah. Told us that we would become subject matter experts And we've learned so much. What the oxygen was doing to the victims, the lack of food that we didn't know about in many cases, like I didn't know about, the restriction or lack of fluids, and the fact that they were being drugged are all things that we didn't know. And there'll be those that we'll we'll have a discussion with. Well, of course, they were given drugs. They were going they were venting them. Yeah. No. You don't understand. They started giving them the sedatives before they left the emergency room, and it didn't matter whether or not they were going to be vented that day or two weeks from now. They kept them sedated the whole time. That is a fact, Jack. Speaker 4: And they and they doubled down as they got toward the end of the protocol. They doubled down on those sedatives because that was end of life. That was purposeful. Speaker 3: Yes. Well, they they made the decision, either because they were told statistics that were absolutely pulled out of a hat by our lovely Fauci and Burks that there were going to be that many deaths, so every COVID patient before or after the beginning of the shots did not matter. Those people were going to die regardless, which accounts for a lot of the abuse and the neglect in the hospital because first it was they're going to die, all we need to do is sedate them till it happens. And then it was they're going to die because they didn't take the shot, and I won't go near them because they're akin to lepers. So, these are the things that fed into, in many cases, the, the construct of treatment and the view of the patients by these so called health professionals. And they and they were able to get away with it because of the isolation. So many of the family members who eventually were allowed in would say, they they almost just, I didn't know my my own husband. I didn't recognize him. You know, they they say it all the time. Jenny talked about that, in her interview with Mick Meow this week because her mother was a teeny tiny woman. And when she was laying in that hospital bed, until Jenny brought pictures in and hung them in that hospital room, Then the nurses were like, oh my gosh, that's Sylvia. She was just working here. I would never have known. Yeah. They couldn't recognize her because they've been starving her for two and a half, three weeks by that time. Speaker 5: Right. And that's something Speaker 12: They did this to one of their own. Speaker 3: They did it to all of their own. When you when it comes right down to it, it didn't matter who walked through that door. Speaker 10: I'm not gonna, I guess, say that there's less men in nursing or anything, but a lot of women are in nursing, and a lot of that I know have the MTHFR gene. And Speaker 3: That stands for something for a reason right now? I'm sorry, Katie. Sorry. Speaker 10: I'm like Sorry. They do have that. I'm sorry. I'm just being cruel to the women. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm I'm the engineer. I should be I should be figuring that out myself. Hippie would be better explaining it, but it it it's honestly, there's there's a lot to go to it, but it it kinda makes you weaker in a sense. But, you have a increased need for folic acid folic acid intake. Can also have some high hypermobility issues, which what, there's a there's a lot to it. Go ahead, Hippie. Speaker 5: I will say that with that Sorry. Men one of the things Huckleberry always says is how cruel how nasty the women are to men nurses in pushing them out. Well That's the way that they were. But I have to say, like, the most of the men nurses, male nurses that I had, were actually pretty good with the exception of, like, William Fripp and some of the there were maybe a couple others. Speaker 10: But I think the point that I was trying to make, though, was that, you know, except for nurses, which, you know, lots of nurses in here, it's they're they move around a lot. Like, people that have the MTHFR gene are typically, typically, originally typically, sports people. So usually, they like to run. You know, usually, they like to be to be competitive in in in in in in in athletics and that sort of thing. So, you know, activation typically happens happens in that situation. The reason I speak for that for for, men is that, you know, usually, they'll have the MTHFR activation without even knowing it. So on the same on the same boat as MTHFR, you know, a lot of a lot of cases of, increased cardiovascular function that led to, death, you'll see that in more in men than you will in women typically because the men have more, you know, more prominence in sports and, and in the workplace. So Yeah. I just wanted to make the association also with the MTHFR gene because I I think it'd be more prominent prominently seen in men, at first, but but also to to just top it off with your other stuff. The the men will, not complain about it. And if they have that gene, and then they'll pretty much, once they get to the hospital, have, you know, have to be freaking desperate. And, and that that's that's sort of why I wanted why I wanted to make the correlation there because, I think that's something that can be also also factored in. Speaker 5: Yeah. Without a doubt. Right? Speaker 1: I'm glad to see Deborah came up while we were talking. How are you doing, Deborah? Speaker 16: Me, Deborah, or the other Deborah? Speaker 12: The the answer is yes. Speaker 16: Thanks, Matt. Yeah. I haven't I've I've, been busy this evening. In fact, I I just got home a little bit ago, so I wasn't able to speak before now. And and, guys, I fell in, on my hip, and, I've been in excruciating pain the last week. Well, last week and one day. And on muscle relaxers, so if I'm loopy, just laugh at me. It's fine. I don't care. So I'm so sorry. It's okay. It it's okay. I'm you know, it it's better. For three days, I couldn't walk, Chelsea. Speaker 5: I wish you lived closer so I could've Speaker 16: helped you. I I wish I did too. I mean and we're not and, you know, thankfully, we're not that far far apart, but you're not close enough, girl, to come over and help me. Speaker 5: I know. Yeah. So I there was Now I'm gonna be worried about you. Speaker 16: Oh, well, don't be worried about me. Just, you know, just pray for me. So I will. There was something you said that, when you were talking earlier that really struck me, and I thought I I can't keep quiet. And I know not I mean, I've I've been in and out because I've been in a couple of stores. Because I I because my hip hurts, I had to go get a soft toilet seat. Yeah. So and I should have had one before now. But, anyway, I I there was something you said, and and I didn't write that down, but I thought and I know not many people have been evidently telling their stories about the COVID murders. And, and somebody said earlier about it was the death. And I think I think it was Sherry, and I think she was just being trying to be, not, obtrusive. But, you know, I just wanna call them murders, you know, and I I know that there are people that get very offended when I say he my husband was murdered, but my husband was murdered. So I'm just gonna briefly give a, an overview of what happened, if that's okay. Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely. Speaker 16: So my husband, was first of all, he was a Vietnam veteran, and he was an Oklahoma City firefighter serving our city for over twenty five years. We had been married forty seven and a half years. When he did not wanna go to the hospital, we had actually we had, contacted doctor Bartlett. He had contact he had called in prescriptions for Jimmy. And, but when I went to the pharmacy, he they did not have, budesonide. So I rushed back home. And when I got back home, Jimmy's o two level was 56, and he was out of his head. And, I mean, even though the man was out of his head, he you know, you have to understand. My husband was strong, capable. I mean, he was and so many of us say this, bigger than life. You know? He just he just was just he he he wasn't a weak man. He was very, very strong man. Strong Christian man. And, anyway, I was talking to our daughter, Brooke, that lives in Charlotte, and she's when I told her what his o two level was, she said, mother, you've gotta call 911. And Jimmy heard me talking to Brooke, and he said, do not call 911. If they take me to the hospital, they'll kill me. I mean, we knew enough about COVID protocol, and we didn't know enough. We, you know, we didn't know enough, obviously, but we knew some. And so and and our nephew had been killed, a year the year before. He was only 45, and he was an active firefighter. And he was killed in the hospital on Christmas Eve of twenty twenty, but they told the family it was because his lungs were so bad. Well, he'd been in the hospital, I don't know, seven seven to ten days by the time they told him that, and he died. So we knew that there was, you know, no it wasn't good to go to the hospital. So, anyway, I did call 911, and they, they took Jimmy to the hospital. Like I said, his o two level is 56. He got to the hospital, and I believe, especially after reading the records, I believe that they targeted him because he wasn't vaxxed, and he was suspicious of the health care system. That is actually in his records. They he they wouldn't let me in. So and, I when I got to the hospital, I, you know, I said I was his health care advocate. I was his wife of over forty seven years. I and I needed to be with him because he wasn't able to to make decisions on his own, and they told me to get out of the hospital. If I didn't get out of the hospital, that they were gonna call the police and have me put in jail. This went on for a while. It was, you know, it it was they they were ugly. And, even though I stressed to him or to them that, you know, I I was his wife of forty seven years and was his health care advocate, they just were not gonna let me come in. And so he and I talked on the phone. I gave them his phone, and, he FaceTimed me. And, we talked, and I said, just hang on. I'm gonna get you out of there because the hospital hospital that we had gone to, we thought I could go in with him. But I was we were mistaken. It was a different hospital. So I was gonna try to get him out. However, being the strong willed man that he was, he was not gonna be in there without me. And, again, I think they targeted him, and they knew my so, again, my husband was a firefighter. Our son was a firefighter and a medic. And, I believe that they targeted him because he was suspicious of the health care system and he wasn't vaxxed. So he said he wanted out of there. I don't know that he signed the, against medical advice to AMA because it does not look like his signature on the records. But they let him leave. He was in Room 13. By the time he got to Room 6, in front of Room 6, he collapsed and went into cardiac arrest. Now there's three or four different versions of what happened. Nowhere did I say they put him in a wheelchair. There are, one of the records says that he took off all the everything, the leads and and, the IV that he unhooked everything. And so I he may have been walking out. And so he got in front of Room 13 Of 6, and he collapsed, went into cardiac cardiac arrest. They took him back into the room, did CPR. And according to doctor Gafani, they gave him, remdesivir. Even though I had told them from the beginning, I told the ambulance, and I told the the, health care people at the hospital no remdesivir. They according to doctor Caffoni, they gave him two doses of, remdesivir. They took him up to COVID ICU, and they put him on the ventilator immediately. And that was on the December 28, and I was not able to get into the hospital until six days later even though we called state senators and representatives who called the hospital, and the hospital was telling them they were talking to me, which they lied. They were not. So, anyway, I believe that my husband, like I said, being the strong willed person that he was, that he felt like he was the only one that could save himself. So he was gonna get out of there. But he they didn't put him on oxygen. They let him leave that room coming in with fifth 56 oxygen. They let him leave that room without any oxygen. Of course, he collapsed and went into cardiac arrest. So I believe they killed him. And, I I've had some say that because we have filed, I I would I filed along with two other wives a complaint with our attorney general last March, March '24, about our husbands being killed in the hospital. I was told that my husband was not part of the complaint because, he was leaving and, and went into cardiac arrest. And I I believe that the hospital is responsible for that. Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely. Like like, if he wanted to leave the hospital, why didn't they call you? Exactly. Didn't they have to call you Speaker 16: for assist even? Exactly. I actually, Gail, I was on the phone. I was on the phone with admissions when that happened. Speaker 5: Yeah. Because they do that crap. They're like, oh, you wanna leave? Go ahead and leave on your own. Yeah. They won't let the family in. Speaker 16: Exactly. Yeah. It was Oh my god. My my like I said, my son's a medic, and he said, mom, they knew exactly what was gonna happen. They knew he was gonna collapse and go in and either stroke out or go into cardiac arrest. Speaker 4: Yes. They knew that, and they also know that they can hold people hostage that way. Because, you know, when I talk to them about my husband, they're like, well, no. You know? Nope. We're not gonna prescribe oxygen if you try to take him. I'm like, what the because you you're basically saying you're holding him hostage because Speaker 5: I spoke to a woman. I I wish that she would tell her mom's survivor story publicly, but when I first, started getting calls, and she had her and her brother had gone in with her mom to the ER. And with a little bit of oxygen that she was getting, she was starting to rebound. Right? Mhmm. And feel better. And, they didn't they didn't want the remdesivir and a vent and all that crap. And so the doctor took off the oxygen and said, I just want her to understand what it's gonna feel like to suffocate to death. Uh-huh. And and they they could have gotten afraid because the mom started to panic, but they didn't. What they did was they got her dressed. They got her the hell out of that hospital. They didn't even sign any paperwork. They they refused to leave. They got her dressed. They took her to they actually had to go across state lines to get a doctor who would prescribe the right medications and oxygen, and they stayed in a hotel to while she got there. And so, and it it only took, like, a few days, but she only needed that little bit of a couple liters of oxygen. That's the thing. People go to the hospital for the lack of oxygen. I never would have gone to the hospital if I could have gotten, you know, a few, you know, just a couple liters. It was the oxygen, the lack of oxygen, and the lack of the protocol the the proper protocol. I, you know Yeah. Speaker 16: Yeah. That Well and and we had the oxygen because the night before, he was not doing well. And and, on the twenty seventh, so I took him to, urgent care. They wouldn't even look at him. They said go go to the ER. Yeah. And so we went to the ER to VA ER because he was a veteran. He had you know, that's who he was seeing with doctors at at the VA. We went there. We went into the emergency room. They kept us, and they wanted to send him up to COVID ICU. But they told him at the time that he would be there ten to fourteen days and that I could not be there with him at all. And first of all, he said, Debbie, why would they say ten to fourteen days? How do they know I would be there ten to fourteen days? I mean, he wasn't so out of it that he, you know, couldn't think. And I said, yeah. That doesn't make any sense. You know? Why why would that be? And he said, I'm not going without you because we never neither one of us ever was in the hospital without the other one being with us. You know? And so we I asked him. I said, can we you know, could you just keep us all night? So, so that in the morning, I can get him because they wouldn't give him monoclonal antibodies either. And I I said, could we just stay all night, you know, until I till morning, and then I can get him and get him an the antibodies. And they said, no. We can't, but they did. They kept us all night. He's he was on a, high flow BiPAP. And, and then they sent us home with ox two oxygen tanks, little tanks, and, and they said that they would have, the concentrator brought out to us. Well, we came home about, 05:30, 06:00 in the morning. I let him sleep, and I started calling the clinic to get him in for the antibodies. I couldn't get anybody to answer the phone, so I woke him up at, like, 07:45 or so, and I said, come on. Let's go to the clinic. And and I took him to the clinic, a place we'd never been to before, but I took him to a clinic that I knew was given the the monoclonal antibodies. And I said breathe deep and, you know, because I knew his oxygen level had to be a certain level to be able to be given the antibodies. And I said, you know, take some really deep breaths. And so we walked in, and I said, you've I I said, do you need to give my husband monoclonal antibodies? And they said, do you have an appointment? I said, no. You guys won't answer the phone. And they said, well, you have to have an appointment. I said, no. You don't understand. You have to give my husband monoclonal antibodies. And, I was nice but persistent. And, the guy said, ma'am, there's 500 people ahead of you. We can't we can't do it. And I, again, persisted. So the the, clinic director came over, and she told me later, she said, you were just so ferocious and but nice, you know, but you were fierce and and, you were stand you know, trying to get help for your husband. And she said, then I looked at Jimmy, and there was just something about him. And so she took she said, I knew I'd get in trouble, but she they took him back and they gave him the antibodies. And then, before we got home, the, he had gone through the oxygen and the oxygen tanks. And so I had to call, the people that delivered the oxygen, and they they came and brought some more tanks to me where we were at in the city. We live out in the country. And, anyway, so they had and Jimmy had told them told me to tell them to make sure they left another mask here for the concentrator. So when we got home and I got him on the concentrator, I didn't realize it. I mean, you know, I'm I'm medically ignorant. Ask me about real estate. I can tell you, but, you know, I'm medically ignorant, but he wasn't. And, I ran to the pharmacy, and when I got home, the I, he wasn't getting oxygen. That's when I found out his o two level was 56, and there were big old holes in the oxygen mask. So he wasn't getting oxygen. And, so, you know, we'd been I don't know what my point was, guys. I apologize. But, but we'd been all night. We'd been given fairly good treatment at VA, but we already knew from the beginning that I was not gonna be able to be with him. And so when I had to call the ambulance, I and we I sent him we went to the hospital that we went to, which is the hospital we've used for years and years. Our kids were born there. My dad had surgery there. Jimmy had had surgery there. I've had surgery there. I mean, we use that hospital all the time. And so, anyway, we thought we I could go in with him, and we found out differently. And, that was, you know, that was the beginning of the disaster. And, if if I had known then what I know now, I would have given him a a whole lot more of the ivermectin that doctor Bartlett had prescribed because, actually, the prescription wasn't enough. And knowing what I know now, especially from Scott, I would have given him more. And even though the pharmacy didn't have budesonide, Jimmy had budesonide here from he had a little bit of COPD. So he had it from the VA, but I didn't know it. Speaker 5: Mhmm. Speaker 16: Yeah. So, you know, I have some. You know? Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Deborah, but, you know, we we can't know what we didn't know. I mean, I I learned so many things after the fact of what was going on in the hospital with my husband too because they had me locked out. No lawyers help. I mean, they had such a perfect system in Dragnet to to it would it was what the military call a kill box, and, the kill box was nearly perfect, Speaker 16: unfortunately. And they took the best of them. You know? It it's like I mean, everybody if everybody I know in our group, you know, all of our husbands and the few women, but all of our husbands were strong men. You know? They were strong they were strong men that, you know, would not cower or I mean, you know, they would fight back. You know? I mean, if if it came to the time where someone had to pick up arms, our men would have done that. Speaker 5: They have done it. Speaker 16: Yeah. They did do it. They did do it. They were veterans. Like, a lot of them were veterans. Right? Yes. Exactly. And we talked about that. I mean, we had you know, my my husband was a, survivalist from the moment I met him. I you know, he started talking about, the end times and, you know, being a survivalist. I mean, we, some of you know, I mean, he he had, purchased a lot of military surplus stuff. So he was ready for the end times. And we had some land, and he he was gonna, you know, build us a bunker and, you know, we had all kinds of plans. And, he was murdered. Speaker 4: He was murdered. And, I think our husbands have a sixth sense because, you know, my husband was he'd never done this. We'd been married since 1985. And, in 2019, he was dehydrating food at home. Yeah. We did that. We did that and that. Stuff. And he was doing all and I was like, what are you doing? He goes, oh, I just think it's a good idea. And I'm like, okeydoke. And, yeah. And he did that, and then we moved to Missouri, which for his dream job. And then he started stocking up out there. We left Yes. Out of the house in Kentucky, and the boys came home during COVID and lived in that house. So he was doing it in two places. So it's like he sort of Speaker 16: knew that something was coming. Yeah. Yep. My husband. So we had bought her dehydrated years ago. I mean, we kept we kept going to state fair. Every time they, you know, state fair, they and we couldn't afford it. But we finally were able to afford a dehydrator. So we were dehydrating food. And then, this is so funny, On his fiftieth birthday, what he wanted for his fiftieth birthday was a food saver, which I thought that was the funniest thing. You know? However, man, did we use that food saver? You know? We used it. We dehydrated. We food saved it. We I'd cook meals and food save it and put in the freezer. You know? And, so, yeah, my husband was very cognizant. You know? He was really he I I would say he was kinda I don't know if it Renaissance man is the right word or not, but he he definitely was, he was looking out for the future, and he knew what the future wasn't Yeah. Looking good. You know? So sorry. I didn't mean I didn't mean to hog the conversation. Here, I was listening to that, and I so glad that you came up to Speaker 5: tell your story. Speaker 16: I can answer any question. I mean, maybe I can answer any questions if anybody has any. So if any Thank you so much, Deborah. I'm so glad you came on tonight. I'm so glad to hear you, Chelsea. I can't I can't wait I can't wait to hear what's going on with you. Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. You would not even believe. I'll catch you up soon. Speaker 16: Yeah. I can't wait. I've been thinking about you and praying for you all week. Speaker 1: So I'm so grateful for that. Thank you. We're gonna get to hands in just a second. I wanna go to Andrea and, and then Gary and then Minh. Speaker 14: Hi, you guys. I just wanna, first of all, tell everybody how sorry I am for all of your losses. It's heartbreaking. Hurts my heart. And, sorry for all the vaccine injured, including myself. It's been rough. I see Hippie's on here. Hippie's was in the hospital. I'm glad she's back and and hanging in there. It's rough stuff. But I I had a question. So I've been hit pretty hard, and I and I think Miriam knows. I can't remember, Gail, if you do, but, you know, I've been hit. I'm not got you know, how a lot of us have EBV now, but I've got EBV, Lyme, mold, you know, vitreous eye attachments. I've got a lump kinda growing on my hand now. But my question is, and I've got Lyme disease. Lyme's kicking me hard. The bone pain is unbearable. And if I cry, I'm sorry. My teeth are killing me. So I've got you know, I've had root canals and but they're all failing now. Like, all of a sudden, all my teeth, my they're failing and they're throbbing. Is that just because of the anybody know on here? Is it because of the inflammation? You know, because I've heard people before losing their teeth. I'm you know, I know some of the long haulers, you know, and some of the vaccine injured have lost teeth, you know, and for those issues. But, I mean, I'm gonna need so many teeth pulled because they're, like, failing now. It's crazy. So maybe inflammation, I'm assuming. All the the blood flow and the lump that's growing on my hand is crazy. I know I'm gonna get that checked next week. I just it's fine to have a lump. I just wanna make sure it's not cancer. So I'm gonna get that checked next week. But I'm really worried about my teeth. My teeth are a mess and killing me and just wondering if you guys know anything about the teeth. Hey, Andrea. Yeah. Speaker 4: I was wondering. So it sounds like one of the common denominators is your immune system is, like, overwhelmed, especially, you know, having had the root canals, you know, and then the lump and, you know, the EVV. Yeah. Have you do you have have you tried anything to help support your immune response? Speaker 14: You know, I've we've all tried you know, the first shot that I got was December '20, and the second one was January 21. And, you know, I could have had COVID in the beginning because I was in medical and, you know, and trusted all the doctors that I worked there and became, you know, course mandated. And after the shot, I you know, I've had three ambulances, probably six ER visits. And, so I've tried everything, you know. But lately, I've been trying chlorine dioxide, but that seems like it's hurting my teeth more. You know? I don't know if it's I'm not sure why. You know? Wow. So I've so many supplements. I've, you know, I've done you know, but we're all running out of money. Right? You know, we've used any bit of savings in in retirement we've had. Have you tried methylene blue, Andrea? Because it's You know, I was just you know, in, gosh, maybe a couple years ago, did some methylene blue IVs. And, and then I haven't done methylene blue for a while. I was just talking to somebody about methylene blue. So I know doctor Group's company has some, and so does the the, you know, Vance from Meraki. So I probably should try that again. I mean, you know, talking about, you know, Speaker 4: mitochondrial issues with this as well and you know without your mitochondria and your ATP and your oxygenation of your tissues you're gonna be subject to opportunistic, infections and difficulty, you know, with anything that, you know, even the lump could be opportunistic as well. So I I would definitely try the methylene blue because it's a it's a powerful oxygenator Speaker 5: and I would I would Speaker 1: I I think that's an interesting thought, but I would love to hear what doctor Thorpe has to say on this subject. Go ahead, doctor Thorpe. Speaker 4: Thank you doc thank you, Chelsea. Speaker 13: Hey. Thank you. I'm I'm really saddened to hear of all of the losses and the trauma and tragedy, Deborah and Miriam and and others. And I'm so sorry. It it, it it hurts my heart. You know, I'm, I'm an OB GYN physician, a high risk obstetrician, been in practice for almost forty six years. Now I've studied a lot and taken care of a lot of these, COVID injuries. Anybody that calls me, I've, I've tried to help pro bono over the last, you know, four years, But it's out of my area, my wheelhouse where where my true, expertise lies. But with regard to the, the last, individual that was talking about, I was it Miriam? I'm not sure. Andrea. Andrea that was talking about the sore teeth. I I'd recommend a couple of laboratories that and and by the way, you can order these yourselves. You don't have to go through a doctor. They're actually a lot cheaper. But I I would order a quantitative anti spike protein antibody titer level, and you can order that. You you can go to any like, altalabtest.com. You can order that test. It's, and and that is will cost you only, like, 10% of what it would cost you to have your doctor draw. You can go set up your own lab draw. Why why do I recommend it? There's another test, you know, the antinucleocapsid antibody. Both of these are available in in the major, laboratories. So, why is that important? Well, you said your last shot was in 2021. You know, there's many vaccine injured that I've talked to that even though they haven't had a shot in four years, their bodies are still producing massive amounts of spike protein. And that could account for, the symptoms that you're having with your teeth and and any other symptom. And if you're if that anti that, spike protein antibody level was still very, very high, then, I I you know, one could consider another option, and that would be to, you know, use, some naturopathic, supplements to aggressively degrade the spike protein if if that antibody level is still high. And, one of those, and which I think there's a a a a pretty mounting body of evidence suggesting that this this, extended spike supplement, that we at the wellness company have used is, some pretty good evidence that it's dramatically reducing those levels and providing some symptomatic relief in some people. Now, obviously, we can't claim efficacy that we don't have a randomized double blind placebo controlled trial. But by the way, nobody else has that data from the pharmaceutical companies pushing the vaccines. So so that might be something to consider as well. And I just wanted to comment that, please consider pushing and buying and promoting the book that I just published entitled entitled Sacrifice, how the deadliest vaccine in history targeted the most vulnerable. And I I I've spent, 20 to $30,000 of my own money on this and, fifty thousand hours in the last four years researching and producing this book, the coauthor of Celia Farber. And, I will be reimbursed none of those assets of monies or time that I put in. And all the proceeds that I received from this book are being matched by the wellness company and, will be there's a tax exempt fund, and, I will be I've been charged with the leadership of the wellness company to be in charge of that fund and to be, delivering the grants. And, we you you know, I I I hope we get $10,000,000 in that fund because for the remainder of my life will be to helping those of you who have been victims of the COVID nineteen vaccine. And I was, it brings me healing. I can't bring back your husbands or your daughters or your sons or your wives. I can't do that. I can't heal all of your injuries, but I can bring you some monetary assistance, I hope, and some love and prayers and and some support instead of having everybody throw you under the bus and mock and deride you and denigrate you and call you liars on social media. And and, you know, this is not this is therapeutic for me because I I know most of you. Our our first award, we're honored to be on on Children's Health Defense, and we announced this with the CEO of my company, that I'm employed by, Peter Gillily and the wellness company. And we announced our first recipient, and that our first recipient and, again, I wish I had a $100,000,000. Our funding right now is limited. But as this book sales increases, all of those every single penny that I get in profit is donated to this fund, and it will be matched by the wellness company. Our first award was granted to the Martin family, and I I think all of you know the Martin family. I Yes. I put her picture and, you know, Alan Martin, her, Trista Martin's father, and, Taylor Martin. You know, I've met them and been with them and testified with them in the senate. I've, when you know, they were featured in the movie Shot Dead. I was featured in that movie along with doctor McCullough as well, and, you know, I love that family. I I I've cried with them. I've broken bread with them. I've prayed with them. And they're the recipient of our first award because they've sustained a massive amount of of financial debt, in this in the circumstances surrounding that beautiful girl, their that beautiful daughter of our most high god, Trista Martin. She would have been, her birthday's around mine. She would have been 21 years old. Look at that picture of her. By the way, she has a striking resemblance to my, oldest daughter at her age. So, we're gonna wipe out their debt. They still haven't been able to afford a headstone Yep. On their grave. And so, Speaker 5: That is that is really good. And I want Speaker 13: any any of the vaccine, injured out there. I I I, you know, I I I love you. I support you. I'm I'm gonna spend the rest of my days trying to make it right and and at least bring you some, love and care and hopefully monetary support if I can. So, get a grant. There's no formal I need a I need a a letter, a a a grant application, if if I will, you know, if you will, and which would just, I need something to satisfy the the feds who will be overseeing a five zero one c three to justify the money and who I'm giving it to. But, and and I'm trying to go through all these applications myself and, try to, you know, what limited funds I have right now. I I I wanna give out. I'm going to give the money. And, again, it's I I have to justify who I give it to and why I give it to them, so I'll I'll need some documentation. But any of you who are out there that, DM me, and you can send me a message on on my book website, sacrifice2024.com, sacrifice2024.com, and my personal website will be up soon, drjathorp.com, d,rasindoctor,jathorpe.com. And my, my Twitter x handle is at j a t h o r p m f m as in maternal fetal medicine and DM me on that too. But, you know, I'm keeping all these, anybody that sends me, a a request or a grant request, you know, I have a file, and, I'm praying to my lord and savior Jesus Christ that, that because he knows my heart and he knows my intentions are pure, that he will, bless me with a million dollars or $10,000,000 or a $100,000,000 in that fund. This book is really well written, and, spread the word. And by the way, I'm in Missouri right now. I I go around the country as a private contractor because my I'm in an extremely busy hospital in in Missouri, because maternal fetal medicines physicians are in very short supply. And, the Barnes and Noble is, in Springfield, Missouri has actually invited me to do a book signing, this upcoming Saturday, March 22, from 1PM to 3PM CST. And if anybody's in that area, come and and visit with me and meet me. But, hopefully, we'll have a good turnout. And, this is this is for you. My hands and my heart right now because my heart is for the vaccine injury, and those are my marching orders from my lord and savior, Jesus Christ, and I'm gonna be faithful to him. So God bless you all. I love you all, and I'm, it's painful to hear your painful experiences and your losses, but you just know that, that God is always with you, and he will always be with you, and don't lose your faith. Amen. Mike out. Speaker 14: Hey. Can I say something real quick while he just mentioned something? This is Andrea. Doctor Thorpe, I sent you a d a DM. If you could look at that, and then, I couldn't write down the information that you said on the labs and the and also the websites and the emails and stuff. I would love to send you a letter, because this dental work. It's like I almost want to pull out all my teeth. That's how bad they are and get dentures. You know? I'm not sure. But it's, like, I mean, like, right now, I've just been crying from the pain. And, but I'll definitely get some methylene blue. It's just crazy what this is done to everybody. You know? I don't know. It's hard it's hard stuff. And as far as you guys losing, you guys are such strong women and so many good men in this community of loving humanity, and it's pretty incredible. And, and all that you've all you people who've lost loved ones, I know they're in a beautiful place. You know? God's got them. And, I know when we go I don't wanna go yet, but if I'd be okay because I know where I'm going. You know? And, but anyway, thanks for all that you guys do. I really appreciate it. Yeah. Go ahead, doctor. Then I'll get some methylene blue. Speaker 1: I think doctor wondering about the the test that doctor Thorpe recommended. I wondered, you know, if those come back, like, how that can help, resolve the issues you're having with your teeth, if if if I may. Speaker 13: Yeah. I think doctor Thorpe had a comment. Is that is that for me? Is that yeah. Well, if if the spike protein if the spike antibody is really high, and I'll I'll put the name of those labs. You can get it through LabCorp or you can get it through Quest. Those are the two large laboratories. But the portal where that allows anybody, any non health any civilian, any secular person, any non health care person can order that test through that and and at a pretty cheap price. By the way, I would also recommend you order a vitamin d level because I want your vitamin d levels to be up around 90 or 100, not 20 or 30. And you can't depend on just oral dosing because it's oral dosing is is just totally inadequate in many people, and it's the absorption of vitamin d is highly variable. So you gotta prove it with a blood test, and the usual range is 30 to a 100, and you want it up by a 100. You know? Anybody that's taken a vaccine or anybody that's not taking a vaccine because, remember, the whole world now is at risk for infection. The vaccinated and the unvaccinated because, 13,000,000,000 shots were given five and a half billion people. So there's a global what it caused was the and and this was probably purposeful. A global VAIDS vaccine associated acquired immune deficiency syndrome. So in essence, the the vaccines have caused a global AIDS syndrome. And and now that we know shedding is occurring, the shedding is causing the, an exacerbation of the problems, not only in the unvaccinated, but also the vaccinated when they get re, challenged with, whatever is being shed. So, so this is really important. But, Speaker 4: yes. A few. I sent Andrea the CPT codes for the LabCorp test, but was there a lab that, she you said she could self serve with those same tests? Do you know the name of that lab? Speaker 13: Well well, you yeah. If you go to altalabtest.com, it's one of many portals that anybody can go to and order their own lab tests. I think there's only one or two states in The United States Of America where the the the the health laws won't allow a a normal citizen, a nonmedical citizen to do that. I I think it might be New York. Okay. Speaker 4: I I sent it to her just now, doctor Thorpe, since you mentioned that, so she's now got it. Speaker 13: Okay. And then the name of the lab test is just, and I'll post it in the in the chat. It's it's, the test is a quantitative spike protein antibody, quantitative spike protein antibody. And then the second test would be a, a antinucleocapsid antibody, n u c l e o, c a s p I d, nucleocapsid antibody. So so and then a vitamin d level would be really important. And just keep pushing, you know, the vitamin d doses that you're taking up as high as you can to get that vitamin, you know, d level up to 90 or a 100 instead of, you know, 50 or 60. You want it in the upper limits of normal. Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Andrew. I'm just gonna give you a little summary of what you said without your name attached, of those descriptions and the lab, that you mentioned in the purple pill for everyone. Speaker 13: Awesome. Ulta, ulta, labtest.com, and it's a really user friendly site. And, you know, I'm I use it now for myself. Self. I don't even go to a doctor because I can get a lot cheaper. I have insurance and everything, but it's a lot more it's a lot cheaper and more convenient for me to just go on that and order my own and my wife's and my family's, you know, labs and and, and and because it's just really simple and easy and convenient. You put your ZIP code in there, and they'll tell you where the closest drawing station is near your home, and, you know, it's a lot more convenient than going to a hospital or a doctor. I'll tell you that. Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so much, doctor Thorpe, and thank you so much for all you're doing, in pursuit of some some manner of compensation for the vaxx injured. There are so many, and they are suffering such a wide range of debilitating conditions. I think it's great that someone is pursuing doing something for them. Thank you. Speaker 13: You know what? It's kinda selfish because it brings me some healing too, and that's the least I can do. Speaker 1: I have pinned, the links that doctor Thorpe shared earlier, sacrifice 2024, in the nest. So please check that out. Give it a retweet. Help support doctor Thorpe as he's trying to support, the vax injured community. And, again, thank you so much, doctor Thorpe. We really we're very grateful for you. Well, I love you all. You're in my prayers, and thank you Speaker 13: for having me. I see some of my friends out there. I won't I won't call them out and embarrass them. Thank you. Love you all. Doctor Thorpe also mentioned, Speaker 1: the Yale study and the vaccine induced AIDS, and I I penned an article about that that my husband wrote in the nest. So check that out if you were wondering. If your ears perked up when doctor Thorpe said, you know, the vaxxer injured might be suffering AIDS, that article might shed some light. Speaker 16: Doctor Thorpe, this is Deborah, from Oklahoma City, and I just wanna thank you again for coming to Oklahoma City last year for the interim study that we had. You you made such a big impression on so many of us, and you were so passionate about about this. And I just I just want to thank you publicly. You know? I just want to thank you. I I sent you a DM, but I I wanted to thank you because, you you showed how much heart you have, doctor Thorpe. Thank you again. God bless you. Thank you for, I was Speaker 13: I was pretty upset because I I had just finished a couple hours with mister and missus Martin. And we had a long lunch, and we prayed, and we cried. And we they testified there. And Yeah. I was pretty angry, and I was pretty hurt, and I was pretty upset, and I was pretty emotional. And, I was pretty intense. I I think I was the only one that stood up and screamed at all those people, and, I got a couple of text messages from, people. Peter McCullough had testified too, but he testified down in Dallas. And I think he sent me a text message afterwards and said, wow. I I didn't I heard you all the way down here. Speaker 5: Well, it was well, I was there. I thought it was great. It was great, but we had one Speaker 16: legislator. Mick and I, you know, because Mick and Sue and I, you know, we're we're pursuing this. We had one legislator that was upset about your passion, and we were like, we don't care. You know? And in fact, we found out that this particular legislator was, indebted to the medical, hospital associates. Yes. And so in terms. Yeah. So we, you know, we just blew him off. So we we were very happy with and I'm I'm the lady that you first met when you came into the room, and you, you told me about that you'd had problems, I believe, if I'm remembering right, you had problems with getting there. Speaker 13: That Yes. I did. Exactly. I was up all night. Yes. You were. I basically slept in the, Dallas Fort Worth and then had to rent a car Yes. To get up here. And, Yeah. And and not to mention, I'm, you know, I'm a disabled veteran with a seventeen segment spinal fusion. So, it was a long trip for me, and it was painful. And, but I wasn't gonna miss it. Not not for you and not for the vaccine injured and not for the Martins. Speaker 16: Yeah. And and they are dear, dear friends. I mean, I I love I love them so much. And so I just want to say thank you. I just want to say thank you again. Thank you. You you were, I I I understood. In fact in fact, when the this particular legislator griped about you, because he he thought you shouldn't have yelled. And I was like, the first of all, the man was up all night. You know? He didn't you know, he missed his flight. I couldn't remember all the details, but I remembered that you had trouble getting there. And I'm I'm sure I remembered more, you know, last year than I do now, but but, I, I literally took up for you. And, and then we decided as a group that this particular legislator wasn't one that we needed to pursue. In fact, we've just left him out of everything from then on. So thank you again, doctor. And, and your your heart, your sweet, kind heart is evident in all that you do. So thank you. And and you know what, doctor Thorpe? Speaker 4: I pray that more and more people will yell just like you did because it's about time. And thank you thank you for yelling. Speaker 16: Yeah. Exact exactly. I mean, I wasn't offended. I wasn't offended by you yelling. Yeah. I was like, go doctor Thorpe. So Speaker 5: I I actually was a little bit offended by the fact that there were hardly Yeah. Any representatives in there to hear it. Some of them sent, like, their intern or somebody from a committee, but the the subject matter was such that they should that they should have personally showed their face and come there, especially when you had people like the Martins that were testifying who their daughter was I mean, there were people who suffered the ultimate at that meeting. I can just I I mean, it it was appalling to me, actually. Like, even a lot of a lot of the community showed up because they had to move it Speaker 16: Yeah. We did. Into yeah. Do you remember? Oh, yeah. We had to move it upstairs. Mhmm. Speaker 5: Yeah. To the bigger and then the overflow rooms. Mhmm. And so for them to for more of them to not engage and hear those like, that was that was a little bit, yeah, a little bit disturbing. And I know they were a little upset with the with, Alan Martin and his passion, but I love his passion. Yeah. He he the their daughter was killed. And when he says, hey. More of you stand up. He's right. Yes. He's doing it. They've given up so much, and they've lost so much, and they still keep they are the most incredible couple. Yeah. They just keep going. And my favorite picture that he shares is the one of him teaching Trista how to change a car because it is the that was one of the last firsts that he would ever share as a father and a daughter. Speaker 13: And these people, I see them get, like, trash. I that that for me, I I what human being would be so crude and so heartless to viciously attack Alan and Taylor Martin? You know, my CEO, Peter Gillily, who came with me to to the, the premier of Shot Dead in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He and I are gonna come out again, and it'd be nice if some if if we made kind of a big deal about it. We're gonna try to get the track to them. Oh, let us know. Let us know. Well, if you're coming out here Yeah. Well, that's a big deal. Yeah. Yeah. Peter, you know, and it Peter Gilloli and myself, we're gonna fly out there, and we wanna come out there and just you know, we can't bring Trista back, but we can honor them, and, you know, we're gonna pay off their debt, and it'd be cool. We were just gonna take them out to dinner, but if we could do something special with more of you there, to show more support, I I, you know, just help me think about something. But Peter Gillily and and I are are have talked about this many times. We wanna come out there. We don't wanna just give them money, and and not see them again. We wanna come out there and, you know, hug them and love on them and support them. And it'd be more that we'll if you could come. A big yeah. We'll make a big deal out of it. Mick I'm sure Mick I mean, Mick's off now. But I'm sure Mick will come and and, Speaker 16: and probably do a live on it. Speaker 10: That'd be you Oh, you've got a free ride from DFW Speaker 13: Airport. Mick Miao? Speaker 8: Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Oh, really? And we'll Speaker 5: Mhmm. We'll drive up from, yeah, we'll drive up from DFW, Debbie. You know, it's only two hours. Yeah. Golly. That would be really cool. Yeah. Speaker 10: I'm I'm here anytime, doctor Thorpe, to help you out. Yeah. Speaker 1: So just one And now you see why this is, like, the best community on x right now. You see everybody coming together and offering whatever they can to support the thing that one among us is doing. And that's just that's how we roll. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt, but I love you guys. Go on. No. Thanks, Chelsea. That's but that's absolutely true. You know? Speaker 16: So you, I sent you my, I sent you my telephone number, doctor Thorpe, on your on DM, and you probably have mixed. If you don't, you can get ahold of me. But we we will we will put something together. You just let us know when. We'll get something together. There will there will be more than just you, and and I didn't remember what the doctor you said. And, Taylor and, Speaker 13: Alan. I mean, Okay. That's a deal. That keeps me even more excited. Speaker 16: Yeah. Well, we'll we'll get we'll do something big. So, you know Alright. Alright. I'm counting on you. The Martins deserve nothing less Amen. Really and truly. Oh, absolutely. They're a big deal, and they deserve a big deal. They do. They they do. They're they're just so they're they're just I mean, it's so tragic what's happened to them, but they are just such a lovely, lovely couple. You know? Dear friends. In fact, every time I see Al and I, because I my husband gave the best hugs. Oh my gosh. He gave the best hugs. And when I see Alan, he always knows to give me a great big hug. You know? Yeah. Because I I miss those big bear hugs that, you know, are just loving, you know, kind friendship hugs. You know? And, so yeah. Well, you you get a hold of us, doctor Thorpe. Speaker 5: Well, I'm just ecstatic that they're the first because they the whole you know, and them not being able to afford that. Like, who's planning to bury their child and has, like, the plan? Right. They, you know, they didn't in in their wildest dreams think that they were gonna lose her. Yeah. I mean, she killed. She was killed. Right? So yeah. And if you if you have not seen Shot Dead, y'all need to see Shot Dead. That was a labor of love for Terrence. Yeah. Speaker 13: And, you know, it's really easy to get to just and, like, the other movies, like, I can't get to really easily, like, Died Suddenly. It was a great movie too, but it's I can never get to it really easy. But to get to Shot Dead, it's really easy. Just go to shotdead.org. Bingo. And you're there, and it's free. There's no paywall. Nothing. Speaker 16: Wow. Speaker 5: Well and the thing I like about what they did with shot dead was the died suddenly was fine and everything, but it it didn't capture the human aspect of it. Like, the the true tragedy and the loss and the and the just what was robbed from people, like, because it's not statistics that this is happening to. I say it all the time. It's human souls, precious souls that were, you know, killed and taken away from from people who love them. So that's what I I loved what she did. Well, she's such a wonderful person anyways, but, that's what I I I think I loved the most about that. Speaker 16: And, you know, I I know this is horrible, but some of you may understand. I can't remember which ones I saw. You know? In fact, I was in Vax three, and I don't even remember it. You know? Isn't that awful? I mean, I remember parts of it. You know? But Yeah. But I'd I'd I need to go back. I think I mean, it I just sell well, I just had my husband's three year anniversary of his murder. And and I've I've I've say this at grief share. I can't believe it's been three years and that I have been, basically stuck for three years. Mhmm. Stuck. I mean, I do stuff, you know, you know, I do stuff with Mick and, you know, we're doing stuff politically now and then. But then there's just other times that I'm just stuck and and now some of you know this, but my house was hit by the tornado November 3. Yeah. And, I literally have not done anything other than get my roof, you know, tarped over in the beginning. And now the winds here have blown it off. And so I finally called I guess I called the, contractor I'm gonna use. So y'all pray for me that I've I've chosen the right one. I kept asking God to give me wisdom and discernment, and and let me know definitively which one I should hire. You know? Speaker 10: And I haven't gone I might be able to help you, Deborah, on that one. Okay. I I and by the way, my my house got kicked by lightning two years before the activation of my symptoms, for the COVID, response. So, yeah, my house burned out. So, Speaker 16: I can totally associate with you. It's kinda sad how it happens that way. Does it? Does it? Katie, send me your phone number. We'll DM me your phone number, and I'll do you DM mine back. Okay. So, anyway, I like I said, I I don't I don't remember. I'm gonna have I'm gonna get on I'm gonna get on tomorrow and watch it again. You know? So I can remember. I've I I so many things have happened, and I've been in such a, a horrible and I'm I just I don't know. You guys don't know me before this, but I'm a very strong, brave, courageous, you know, individual. I'm Speaker 5: Yeah. You are. Yeah. Speaker 16: And so for this to have laid me so low, I mean, it's it's kinda shocking to me, that I've been I've been, you know, frozen. I've been frozen and not been able to make decisions. I'm I think I'm getting better, so y'all pray for me. I I think I'm getting better. I at least, like I said, I called a contractor and and, hopefully, you know, that's gonna work out. However, then I talked to my kids and they they say, oh, mom. That was the wrong decision. You know? So it's like, oh, I can't do anything right. But they're not here to help me. You know? So, so, if any of you, have been three plus years since your loved one was murdered, you know, and you are having trouble dealing sometimes just with daily life, you're not alone. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 16: So sorry. I'm I'll I'll shut up now. No. No. You're good. You're good. Speaker 5: I'm I'm thank you, Deborah, for everything you do. Speaker 16: I love you, Gail. Speaker 5: Well, you know I love you too. Speaker 16: I I love every I love everybody on here. I mean, if if, if it wasn't for you guys, I don't I don't I I wouldn't even be as well off as I am emotionally, you know, if it wasn't for y'all. So I'm so grateful. Yep. Speaker 1: We've become family in the void of supportive family. Yep. And we're it shows. We're all so close, and Speaker 16: I love you guys. Yeah. You're awesome. I I just wish you were here so I could give you hugs. I wish you were here now, Chelsea. Speaker 1: Not now, but maybe soon. You never know. We'll see how the home starting adventure goes. Exactly. You never know. You never know. So, Speaker 16: yeah, I'm I'm I'm it would be so nice if we were all, you know, like, within 50 mile radius so we could get together or even a 100 mile radius. Speaker 5: Yeah. Because, you know, the the drive from DFW to Oklahoma City isn't terrible. Yeah. Like, I mean, it Deborah, that's a bad idea. Speaker 12: That's a bad idea. It would all be chaos. Speaker 5: And it's actually closer for us to come to Oklahoma City than it is when we drive to Austin. Speaker 16: Yeah. And and who wants to go to Austin? That I I'm so sorry. Keep Austin weird. Right? I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have said that because No. Austin is Speaker 5: a crapple. It has just become so weird. I know. It's it's so sad. Speaker 16: You know? It's so sad. My granddaughter was down at Texas A and M, and I was like, oh, you're too close to Austin. You know? Speaker 5: And the the capital like, when we go down to the capital Yeah. It's so hard to navigate because it's it's not like y'all have a really nice capital there in Oklahoma City. Mhmm. And, it's easy to get to, you know, different offices and stuff like that. Not in in man, you need a I need a map and I I have to hire a navigator. Well, I don't have to hire a navigator because I just have Huckleberry go. But, if he if he ducked out on me while we are walking to down hallways and go to different offices, I wouldn't find my way back to the car. Speaker 16: Oh, no. Speaker 5: It's a it's a it's a rat maze. Speaker 16: Well, yeah, I love I I love our capital. I really do. I think it's you know? I'm I really I really do. I I haven't been to I don't know if I've been to anybody else's capital except for DC. Actually, I haven't been to the capital at DC. I've only been in front of the in front of it. I haven't been inside of it. So Speaker 5: Man, you know what? If there was if there was enough money in it, I would I love guys, I love lobbying. Yeah. And y'all, we we have to learn how to become really good at lobbying because the other side of this fight has these highly paid Yes. Slick lobbyists. We have to become like a lobbying machine Speaker 4: because nobody is coming to save us. Yeah. We're gonna have You know or staffing is, Gail. Not only do they have the slick lobbyists, the lobbyists have the money to put in the politician's pocket. Yes. And that's just the biggest part of the problem. Speaker 16: Yeah. So, I just Oh, sorry, Chelsea. Go ahead. Speaker 1: Not at all, Deborah. You go ahead. Well, I was just gonna Speaker 16: say, I don't know how many of you are from North Carolina, but you might know. So I know Sherry is, but I don't know. You might know somebody. But my daughter, Brooke McGowan, is running for the, North Carolina GOP chairman. She's coming up against, the guy that took over from Michael Whatley when he took over the RNC. His name is Jason somebody, who is a complete rhino. And my daughter is grassroots and, very much a conservative Christian. Anyway, she's and and it's been surprising to her because she's been in politics now, actually, since, I don't know, 2010 or something. She actually she was with the Tea Party News Network. She actually was the last person to interview Andrew Breitbart, which that was a big deal. She interviewed Dan Bongino. I was she's in I mean, she knows a lot of people. But, anyway, she's running for, the, North Carolina RNC, chairman, and she's come across all these rhinos that are mad at her. A friend friends, people that she's known for years. They're mad at her because she didn't discuss it with them before she, decided to run. And, so if any of you know of anybody in North Carolina that, are delegates and can vote in the state at the state convention, vote for Brooke McGowan, my daughter. Speaker 4: So Deborah, I'll be praying for her because the rhinos are a vicious brood. They're Speaker 16: she needs a prayer she needs a prayer covering for that one. She does. And, you know, North Carolina lost their they had a majority. And, they lost it all. I mean, the only, well, she actually ran for congress, in the primary. She lost in the primary to another guy, and he actually won. He actually asked her to go to work for him in DC, but she didn't wanna move to DC. But, anyway, they they lost at at the state level. They lost their majority. And, you know, now there's another democrat governor, maybe lieutenant governor. I can't remember what all. But, anyway, the guy that was in charge was the complete rhino. You know, the the GOP guy was complete rhino. And, so, you know, she's trying she wants to make a difference. And, and this is a pretty thankless job. I mean, there's no salary. It's a Yeah. Pretty big state. And, and she like, tonight was today was their convention in their county, and her husband won. He's won chairmanship of their county. But she so she went to that. And then after that, she drove, almost three hours to another county for another convention she that she was supposed to speak at. And she gets there, and the the gal that's in charge supposedly keeps coming over to her and telling her that, you know, she's, you know, she's gonna be up pretty soon pretty soon. She was there. I don't remember how many hours she said. However, she never got to speak. They ended up closing out the convention without her being able to speak. And, and that's happened a couple of times at different at different ones. And like I said, it's I think they have a 100 counties. We have 77 in Oklahoma, but North Carolina is, you know, a lot bigger. And, so, anyway, y'all pray for Brooke and, and tell everybody you know to vote for Brooke McGowan in North Carolina. Speaker 1: So she'll be Thank you so much, Deborah. I I hope she wins. I hope so too. Speaker 16: And That would be so Her her daughter my oldest granddaughter, her daughter, she they live on the same 32 acres, is very upset with her that she's running because, she is pregnant with baby number two, and Brooke was gonna be granny nanny. So so Well, I'm sure she can find someone else to fit that bill. Well, maybe not granny nanny, but she can find somebody that can be nanny and, Right. You know, but but yeah. Shabby Savannah is her name. She is not happy with mama running for, you know, in politics. So, anyway, pray for Brooke. I'll I'll I'll shut up now. I I told you I I had taken a half a muscle relaxer. I I should've I should've Speaker 1: I love it. I I love it. No. You're fine. I do wanna go to other Deborah and, then Matt has to get off. So we're we'll go to Matt and then Katie and Gary. If you're requesting and waiting, thank you for your patience. We're gonna clear these hands, and then we'll get some more people up on mic. Deborah, go ahead. Speaker 7: Hey, everyone. I was just gonna go back on Deborah, like, before she went on her, campaign speech there. By the way, everybody get your mail in voting right now, and she can win. If everybody mail in votes, we can we got it. Got this part down. No. I wanted to just mention that when she was talking about the you know, like, we're like, I'm third year with her. Right? And our husbands are, like, a couple weeks apart, matter of fact. But, anyway, I think what's so difficult is, the moving on part. I like, for me, like, we're in this fight, and and it never ends. It's in every day. The minute you wake up, it's there. But at the same time, we're trying to figure out how to start our lives over again. And most of us are like, we're thinking about having to do this at this point in our lives. So it's really, it's difficult. It's, I I I guess I don't really know what I'm trying to say now. I knew a while ago, but I don't know what I'm trying to say now. Just it's difficult, and I don't know. Every every day is a new, adventure of because the fight never ends, but but at the same time, trying to learn how to I I don't even know how to start it out. I don't know how to do it. So I'm with you, Deb, on that one. Yeah. So, everybody, we're moving to Deb's property just so she knows. Yeah. And, you know, taking up her husband's, mantle that he left us. Speaker 16: Wait. We're just gonna live on a big We have a lot of work to do, guys. Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna invite everyone up to my lands, but, apparently, you can only have one dwelling per parcel. So I guess we'll we'll just have to build a really big compound. I don't know. Was it Gary next? I think it was Gary. Oh, right. Sorry. We're going to Matt because Matt's gotta go. Then we're going to Gary. Sorry, Gary. Matt, go ahead. 28. He's got a bedtime. Speaker 4: Got a bedtime. Speaker 16: Oh, bedtime. That is Speaker 12: Yeah. Cut it down. Yeah. Okay. Look here. First, it was first, it was Deborah Davis, then Deborah Mose, and now Gail. I mean, my gosh. You you y'all y'all are just a butt no. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Speaker 4: Hey, man. I'm not not even gonna finish that thing. Love it. We know you love it. We know you love it. Speaker 12: Oh my gosh. No, Deborah Davis. I do I have heard of, of, Brooke, before this, actually. My friend, Margo, some of you may know, she's, she's here on x. She's at Margo in WNC. That's Margo in Western North Carolina. And, Brooke has her endorsements, and I trust Margo. So, I'm glad so I'd that's just that's just my two cents on that. I'm not a North Carolina native, but I do know, fed up with media who who is a North Carolina. I believe he's a delegate at the or he will be a delegate at the convention, and he'll be, he'll be voting for her as well. Just wanted to say that, but, also, I wanted I I see I was gonna say to doctor Thorpe while he was up here that, that, doc that, Don Jolley says hi, but I see doctor Thorpe's no longer up here. But but I do I do wanna also say this. Guys, keep keep keep the faith, because because we don't know we don't we don't know why we don't don't know why things happen, the way that they do. We don't know why. You know? We'll we'll never know. But, you know, we just have to trust that that this is all part of part of part of a plan, and I'm just it's just an honor and a pleasure to to to let to laugh with you guys and to be able to be here to support y'all in in your stories and in whatever else you're feeling. And to and that's same, but rather your widow or, someone who's vax injured. And, it's just it's y'all have been such a blessing to me. I can't, I can't fully describe it. But, you know, just like I said, just get just keep the faith because we know that, as I said earlier, you may have lost the battle in the sense that you you weren't able to save your loved ones from from from dying, but you have not lost the war. As I as I told Miriam earlier, because because we know that we know the lord is faithful. He is just. He has not left you. He's not forsaken you. And and that's a promise you can count on because we all know that God never breaks a promise. You may lose sight of that at times, but just lean lean on him and lean into him. And that's and that's, that's all I wanted to say, guys. Good night, and god bless. Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt. Now we'll go to Gary and then Katie. Speaker 6: I have earlier, we're talking about the AI issue. The the unfortunate thing about AI is that the more that we depend on it, the more we lose because we'll lose that information, you know, that that's being handed down from, you know, the more experienced people to to, you know, as as they learn to, you know, to be better doctors or better nurses and that sort of thing. And so as you rely on something artificial, what happens is you, that dependence causes a lack of, information exchange, which means if they ever decide that they wanna go back, there's gonna be a major loss in the amount of information that's re that's turned over. Speaker 1: Thank you, Gary. Katie, go ahead. Speaker 10: Well, Andrew is not here, and neither neither is the doctor. So, I'm just gonna I've left a message with Andrea on on, just listen to the recording. She she it's possibly she might have the MTHFR gene as well. It can cause some issues with your, dental stuff. So with muscular aspects mostly and skin, and that can immobilize some you know, the teeth in some sense. Sorry, guys. Again, it's getting late. I can't talk very well late. And, yeah, so I was hoping to tell her that, you might she might wanna check into that, and if it is the, MTHFR, it's good. And this is kind of good in general to to take a, you know, higher than I mean, to get your folic acid checked, which I'm sure doctors would ask her to, but, to take a take a a higher dosage of that. And, so I was gonna recommend that. I can't think of I can't remember what else I was gonna say. Yeah. It's getting a little bit late. I should've taken notes. My apologies. But, yeah, I just happened to kinda get some answers from her on on some other things, but I told her to catch me in another space. And, hopefully, that'll be during the day as well. So when I'm more functional, my, my dysphasia kinda gets bad in the evening. Speaker 6: Was that folic acid or folate? Speaker 10: Oh, I'm sorry. What is the stuff called? Yes. See, I'm not remembering outside my head, so I'm trying to find the vitamin bottle. Oh, dear. There it is. Methyl tetrahydrofolic acid. Yeah. L five methyl tetrahydro hide I'll put that I'll put that in the purple pill again. I've I've been in some other spaces where I've left the information as well, but in here too. But, yeah, it's a it's a it's a if you look at the at the, digestive processes that your body goes through, then you'll you'll learn that, it breaks it down into the m MTHFR, which is actually what the acronym is. So at at the end, you have the red, reductase is is kind of the what you attach to the methyl tetrahydrofolate, all that stuff. It's that's why. But, most of us in the, in the vaccine or community know know it as the mother of her gene. So, not to have a bad language in here, but, yeah, that's unfortunately what we refer to it sometime sometimes, and they'll catch on faster. But, yeah, there there are some people that, also have have had, increased, and I wanted to ask her this, so now I'm thinking about it, hypermobility. And, so that's another symptom to look out for you if you're suddenly can, you know, touch your toes, like, you you couldn't do it before, that sort of stuff. That that can also be a sign that you've, aggravated, the system and suddenly can do things. But trust me, it has, worse outcomes later in life. So, yeah, it's not it's not a good thing. Ehlers Danlos Syndrome? It can result in that. Yes. Thankfully, I don't have that yet. Might as well expound upon that, Gary, for for for those that don't know. Speaker 6: Yep. It's basically, it's a condition where you're you're you get like, you know, hypermobility. And, unfortunately, what's happening is you're, going beyond, the range of motion that you would normally have, and you're actually doing damage to your joints. Speaker 4: Okay. Maybe I do have that. My doctors just haven't recognized it. It also affects the connective tissue and even in the blood vessels, so it predisposes to cardiovascular issues as well and heart problems and all kinds of things. So yeah. And if you already have that tendency, and then you also have, you know, a mitochondrial problem or elevated d dimer, which can compromise your blood flow, which then, you know, also affects oxygenation. It's a nasty little cycle that can cause major major issues. So it is a major problem for people who've been vaxxed and also have MTHFR for sure. It's a it's a very bad combination. So yep. Speaker 10: Thanks, Carrie. Thank you, Marianne. Speaker 16: You're welcome. Speaker 1: Cece, go ahead. Speaker 18: Hey, guys. Good to see y'all on. I'm coming to you live from Hollywood. I just came from the premiere of follow the silence. And Matt Guthrie, directed film, and I'm gonna try to get through this without crying. It was incredible. They did such a good job of debunking everything, all the bullshit that we've heard for the last four and a half years about it being the pandemic of the unvaccinated. The, the statistics speak for themselves. The speakers, there was, you know, Brianne Dressing, Ernest Ramirez, just a ton of the vaccine injured community. Texans for vaccine choice helped produce it. Steve Kirsch actually came in and finished paying off the rest of the movie, but there were celebrities there. There was it was a standing room only. The theaters set about 350, and people were lined up around the walls. And it won best film at the festival. So it I think it's really gonna be a game changer. People that were there, that had no idea what was going on. There wasn't a dry eye in in this in the theater. It was so good, and I cannot wait for it to come out, very soon. I think it's actually gonna be shown in Dallas. I can't remember if Dallas or Austin. It's gonna be free to the public. We gotta share, share, share. If there's any doubters out there now, there won't be anymore. It was just in incredible. I mean, Kelly and I cried the entire time. No. People that already, like, people that already saw the movie were bawling. I mean, there was not a dry eye. I put some some clips of it in the, in the chat, but they covered protocol. They covered just the censorship. They covered the silence of the vaccine injured, and they did such a good job. This film is incredible, and I'm so happy that it won the film festival and that it's gonna I really think it's gonna make a huge difference. There's nobody that can watch it and dispute anything that's happened. So, I think I really think it's gonna be a film that makes a big difference in our country as we just got to it's free to the public now. We just gotta get it out there. We just gotta share, share, share, share, share. Any any update on the ETA for bad medicine? No. They I didn't I didn't get a talk a chance to talk to him, but they said they had Kelpis coming out. So, hopefully, it's soon. I think it's too late. You know? It should have been out before, but the funding, I guess, wasn't there. And, you know, the the people that funded this film had the funds, and they were vaccine groups or vaccine motivated groups. But it still did a really good job of showing that the, the censorship and how they tried to make it look like it was the pandemic of the unvaccinated when a lot of people were either killed because they weren't, vaccinated or they wouldn't report that they were vaccinated. But I'll it I mean, it it covered it covered everything. It really did. And the stories were incredible. A volume was there. I mean, I can't even think right now it's been we've been there since 09:00 this morning and just now driving back to Judy's. But it it was just y'all are gonna really, really like it, and we gotta share it. It's gonna it's gonna cover both of the protocol and the jab, and it's gonna change minds. There was doctors there. There was attorneys there. There I would saw directors Hollywood directors talking about doing another one. The word's getting out. And, of course, we're in California, so I wasn't expecting such a great response. The the reception was packed. Everybody was talking about music was specially made for it, by Deepak and who performed live. Jessica Sotto was there, Joia Mateo from the Sopranos, People that you wouldn't expect to be in on it now know, and they were they were very touched. And it was it was a really, really well made documentary. John Davidson was set with us, and now him and Mickey are collaborating on doing something. So it's, it's a game changer. I really think it is. And the fact that it won the festival just shows that people are waking up, so don't lose hope. There there's just too much evidence out there and too many documentaries coming out that, I you can't deny it anymore. I mean, the Maddie DeGary story was on there. The Ernest story was on there. The, Brianne's story was on there. Lots of nurses, lots of doctors, advocates. I mean, y'all, I can't wait for you guys to see it and share it. And this is anybody that's been disputing you or not believing you, they can't dispute this. I mean, they use CDC data. They use NIH. They did they had the the the leader of, of the FDA and all this just getting just ripping him, ripping him with stats. And, and, you know, news clips just ripping the media with real life stats and stories where everybody was just like I was looking around trying to sneak in some filming of of the audience. And, I mean, people were passing down Kleenexes, and it was just it was incredible. So I hope that gives y'all a little hope. Word is getting out, and we have a new film that talks about both things, and it's it's gonna be I really feel in my heart. It gave me a new little fire in my belly and Kelly, and we knew we are at the right place. You know, anybody getting burnt out, that that film will put a little pep in your step and know that God has us in the right place at the right time. We're supposed to be here. This is our fight, and it's it's gonna get out. It's it is. I promise y'all. And, well, hopefully, they'll just start keep cranking out more documentaries and more more proof, and there's no way that the world can deny this. So, anyway, that's just a report from us in LA, and can't we get it home to Texas where I belong, but, just wanted to report on that. So, keep the faith. Keep the hope. You know? People are waking up. Love you guys. Speaker 1: Anyone have any comments about the big Hollywood premiere? Go ahead. Speaker 10: I'm elated. Finally, got a max injury movie or or theater, whatever, production. Yeah. We really haven't had any, wide something go wide on on, on the big screen for, the VoxSandra community. So I'm, I'm quite elated at this. So thank you for the the good news. Hopefully, hopefully, it's Dallas where the next steering is. But, yeah, it's really good to hear, and hope you have safe travels back home. Speaker 18: Thank you. I I believe they did say Dallas. I could be mistaken to Austin, but I'm I'm pretty sure they said Dallas. But they're gonna, text me and let me know probably Monday or Tuesday, and I'll keep you guys posted. Speaker 8: Cool. Speaker 1: Anybody else has any thoughts for this evening? If you're on mic, go ahead and contribute those. And if not, last call for requests, we're gonna wrap it up pretty soon. Speaker 10: Deborah, just want I feel sorry for you having to deal with Austin and the Longhorns and, the gig of Maggie's. Thankfully, we're a three and a half, excuse me, more like a three hour drive from from A And M to Austin. So, if you ever get called to go there, it's a really nice place. So but, yeah, you can tell I'm in Aggie. So I'm from Texas. Hey, though. That's where I went to school. Speaker 1: I do see one request coming in from America First t h. Go ahead, America. Speaker 19: Hi. I just wanted to say, as a comment on, the victory that may be coming with everybody understanding and acknowledging that the the vaccine COVID stuff was all crap. And that is the second milestone after that. Like, that would be a legit victory if everybody's just like, okay. We know. The second victory in that would be prosecuting Fauci. That would be awesome. I will have a party. Speaker 16: I think we're all there with you. We we would have a big old party if we could prosecute Fauci and a few others. Speaker 1: Isn't that the truth? Preemptive pardon. How about all 50 attorney generals get together and actually do something? That would be nice. Speaker 16: Yeah. Ours is a wimp. He just wants to be governor. Speaker 10: Elon Elon's, Elon's, gender preferences prosecute Fauci. So, yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. My Yeah. I think that's actually why they preemptively pardoned him because the the incoming people who were becoming part of the incoming administration and were evidently going to be part of it were being so vocal that they were aware of Fauci's crimes against humanity. And that's why, you know, maybe maybe don't broadcast all that stuff, you know, in advance because probably they wouldn't have done that, and we could actually be by now if they hadn't. But, you know, coulda, shoulda, woulda. Speaker 16: However, Chelsea, since they use the autopin, Speaker 1: to That's a good point. Speaker 16: You know, all those all those pardons may not be legal. Speaker 4: Exactly. And my mother-in-law had dementia, and she she couldn't legally sign anything. And we know about Joe Biden's mental state. Do we not? Speaker 16: Well, yeah. I mean, back I can't remember the name of the guy that, you know, when he, was looking at the fact that, Biden had all those, records, said that he wasn't capable. Speaker 4: Right. He couldn't he couldn't prosecute him because he wasn't competent to be prosecuted for taking classified documents. However, he's competent enough to sign pardons. I think there might be a little conflict there. Speaker 16: Well, he was competent enough to be president. Yeah. I do. Should have been he should have been, Speaker 19: what is it, amendment 25? Is it is that is that am I right? Yes. Remember speaker Johnson? He told the story about how Biden did not know that he'd be on LNG. So Biden didn't know what he signed. I mean, we all know he's brainless. But Right. There's an example where he signed an executive order that he didn't know what it was. And so Who's the same person? Speaker 16: We don't even know if he actually signed that if it was auto signed. Speaker 19: Right. You know? But, I mean, why not say the same thing about all the pardons? Like, who's to say he knows what he did? Speaker 16: I I think everything that he, I I think everything from twenty twenty three, for sure, on most everything from 2023 on, He probably didn't know what he was doing, and he may not even have been doing it. So Speaker 7: But his signature was different long before '23. If you go back and look at the his original signature versus the other signatures, not the same. K. He didn't even '23. Speaker 16: I hadn't I hadn't seen when it changed. Speaker 19: He didn't even steal the election. The deep state stole the election and installed him as a puppet. Speaker 16: Yeah. You're right. Oh, absolutely. Speaker 7: No. Right. And whatever whatever that is. Speaker 10: And just to let you know not calling him a person. Yeah. Before prosecute Fauci, the gender, verb, pronouns, excuse me, came out. There was already that we had already started our big movement for the the anti vaxx movement. So, Gary can probably remember, so can Hippie, but we were all involved with the doctors that got together to do all the research, along with, god bless me. What's her name? Christine, Christine something. And I'm forgetting her last name. It's down in Houston. Anyway, we went through a lot the long, long history of vaccine use in in US history. So, I think it was probably maybe that that might have, you know, that got got Elon into it in the first place. So, believe me, he he would have been taken off of the list regardless of what Elon said, to be honest. Speaker 7: Hey. Katie, I don't mean to interrupt you, but right I I gotta say this because every time I go to say something when I get on here, I forget what I'm gonna say. But in signal today today on x, there was a, like, a three, four hour show of different it was, doctor Young, doctor I can't even name all the docs. But, anyway, I had Sharon, because I still don't know how to do this yet, you guys, posted on signal the link, to go back and watch it because hurricane was on it or no. Lindsay was on it. Corey but it was all about the, vaccines and stuff, but about them writing a letter to the president. But it's, like, three, four hours. So, if you got signal, get on there. The the, it it I posted on my ex too, so you can check there too. But it's also on the sick our signal space. Thank you. Definitely. But, yeah, like, I thought of you, Katie, Hippie. I I thought of the whole list of you today when it was on in it, but it's excellent. And, it'll give you a lot of hope of what they're doing. Speaker 10: Lindsey also I think it Lindsay, y'all I think it was at the same time as I'm sorry, Gary. It was at the same time as the VACC SENDER support group, I think, is what you're talking about. I think it was. You're right. But it was really it's something y'all need to watch. Yeah. Unfortunately. Speaker 7: It was excellent. Speaker 10: Yeah. Speaker 4: I've connected I wanted to ask you guys with what you're talking about. I think I may have found it. Is that the Freedom Train International, a letter to president Trump? Yes, ma'am. I I'm I found a substat by Karen Kingston, and I'm gonna put that in the purple pill for everyone so they can see that. Speaker 7: Well, thank you, Miriam, because you know I'm not that smart. Speaker 4: Oh, yes. You are. Speaker 7: You're fine. Not when it comes to that, sweetie pie. Speaker 4: Well, we love you. You know that. Speaker 7: You got to because you're all stuck. Speaker 4: Well, we're glad. I'm glad to be stuck with you, Deborah. Speaker 1: Rather be stuck with y'all than literally almost anyone on the entire planet, so I think we're in good company. I just realized to my horror, my phone is at 1% plugged in and charging. We do not have, any request pending, and I think we've had well, I mean, we do. We have we have the king, from The Holy Land, but I think we need to wrap this up maybe next time, King, if you join us again next week. Really great space. Thank you so much to my cohosts, Gail and Miriam. Thank you so much to everyone who came on and shared your story. Not a whole lot of stories tonight. Really appreciate, those who who keep on persisting and, and sharing your story. Thank you so much. Chelsea, can I add a plug here? Speaker 7: Because you're not getting rid of me. Also, everybody, if you do if you haven't watched, Gail the one with Gail and, Huckleberry, everybody go watch that. Share it. It's excellent. And I'm her commercial part two is Wednesday at 05:00 central. But it's it's really well done, and it needs to get out there. So just wanna say that. Thanks. Love you all. Speaker 16: Love you guys. Appreciate you all. Speaker 4: Alright. I found the segment that Deborah mentioned. I'm putting it in the purple pill real quick before we go so that everybody can see that, the segment with Gail. Speaker 16: Thank you, Miriam, because I was wondering I was gonna contact somebody later. So thanks. You're welcome. Speaker 19: My pronouns, by the way, are not slash crazy. Speaker 10: Thank you. Speaker 16: Are are you sure about that? Speaker 7: Well, my pronouns are not not slash crazy. No. I'm kidding. Speaker 16: Well, Deborah, I think ours could be could be crazy. Speaker 7: That was why I said nine nine slash. Speaker 4: Great. Girls, you know what mine is officially gonna be from here on out? Goodbye. Speaker 16: Nope. Crazy and proud of it. Oh, there we go. I love it, Miriam. I knew you know, you are you're so good at words. You're just so good at words, so I knew you'd come up with a better one. Speaker 7: So Well, we can be the we three queens. Instead of three kings, now it's three queens that we're in there. Yeah. Speaker 19: I have a daily alarm set so that every single evening, I post the same exact thing, and that is this is your daily reminder that Fauci is still not in prison. Speaker 16: Oh, wow. That's cool. I I need to do something like that. That's a great idea. Speaker 4: That's a very good idea. I think I'm gonna do some variation of that one. That's a good one. Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't have a tattoo, but I think I have that tattooed somewhere. Speaker 16: That was supposed to be a joke. You guys Oh, I laughed. You just didn't hear me. Speaker 4: That was a good one, Deborah. I just wanna say thank you everybody for coming because I know Chelsea always asked us to to, chime in here. I I wanna say thank you. It's been a great night. I love you all, and I'm really looking forward to seeing you all next week. Speaker 16: Love you all, and I really appreciate all of you. Thank you. So Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Deborah and Deborah and protocol widow and Katie and missing and, t bird, I see you. I hope you're doing alright. Thank you everyone for coming and, and having a really great conversation tonight. We look forward to seeing you again next week and every Saturday at 8PM eastern. I hope you guys have a great night. We'll see you again next week. Good night. Speaker 16: God bless you. Bye bye.