Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another chbmp.org space. Give us a few minutes to get situated, and we will get started. Hello, Cece. I wasn't sure you were gonna make it tonight. Welcome back. How are you doing? You should have cohost. Andy, you should have cohost. Speaker 3: Get back all in one piece. It was great. Speaker 1: Welcome back. How was your vacation? Speaker 3: It was, really good and much needed. I feel recharged and ready to rock again. But, yeah, it was it was really nice. Got to go dive, which is my happy place. Speaker 1: Awesome. I'm so glad you got to do that. Welcome, Gail. I haven't seen you for a while either. How are you doing? Speaker 5: Hi, Gail. Speaker 6: Hey. Hey, Cece. Yeah. I've been busy. I've been very active the last two weeks. I can't wait to to share with you guys what we've been doing. Speaker 3: I know. I can't wait to hear it. I feel like I've been gone for, like, a month. It's only been seven days. Speaker 6: Yeah. You're really quiet. Am I really quiet? Speaker 1: I can hear you both just fine. Speaker 6: Oh, maybe I just need to turn up my volume. Maybe it's me. I can hear you both. Doubt it when in doubt, I always assume it's you. I see people people are coming on quick today. Mhmm. Yeah. How was your how was your vacation, Cece? Let's just chitchat, Speaker 3: for a little bit. It was amazing. It was amazing. I needed it so badly. I actually disconnected from my phone. I didn't check my email one time, and now I'm regretting it, but I didn't do it because I'm buried now, but that's okay. Speaker 6: I mean, I checked your did. You checked your Facebook Messenger at least once or twice. I did. I did. Speaker 3: And the signal at least, but I did not check my emails, which I'm kinda That's true. Speaker 10: Whoo. Speaker 6: That is true. I was really proud of you. I you know you know, I was really I wasn't sure if it was, you know, your husband hid your phone or He tried. He did. He tried. Speaker 3: Yep. I even brought some work with me, but I didn't even a case to review, and I didn't even look at it. So Speaker 6: that's good. I mean, it can always wait until your r and r is over. Right? Yep. Well, let's see. We are five after no. We're only three afters, so I'll wait. I'm gonna wait to read, the intro and the rules for just a couple minutes because we're still gathering. There's only a few people. You know, people trickle in a little bit. Speaker 9: So Speaker 6: let's see. We've got some speakers ready to go once we're once we're a little better, situated. See if it's any anyone I don't know. I see I see Scott's on. I just just saw Scott. Saturday. Speaker 3: Last Saturday. That's right. So how was that? Speaker 6: So well, I was gonna give a update when more people are on, but it was really good. I I I won't share too much until after I read the rules and stuff, but I'm gonna tell you. The people that I've met were so amazing. So, and it was really cool to meet like, it's always cool when you meet people who, are on our spaces, but you only know them by their Twitter name and then you Right. So two Turborocket Shark came up there. That was really cool. Yeah. That was really super cool. And so and he was on the men's group too, but, he super cool guy. And, so that was fun. Andy's gonna get together with him because they live near kinda near each other. But, it I have to say, the attorney Rachel Rodriguez Yeah. What a beautiful person. Yeah. She is. Love her. I just she both you know, she's she is a beautiful person inside and out. I was so impressed with her and, you know, doctor Moon, lovely, lovely woman. Speaker 3: Yes. I love Lenny. She's awesome. Speaker 6: That's Scott Miller, crazy as a loon. You know what I'm saying? Speaker 2: He is just nuts. Speaker 3: Oh. I love Loon. Hey, Scott. Didn't know you're gonna be stuck. Speaker 13: Wait. Hold on. I wanna understand these rules. But why why is there rules that you have to go over? I thought it was a free throw. They put in place they put in place just for you. I do have some rules that I'm gonna go over. So let without further ado, Speaker 6: I guess we could I may have to reiterate them, when we get going a little more, but so that we can maybe kick off our spaces with some updates, and I know Andy's got some things to say. Speaker 14: I Speaker 6: yeah. So I am going to, go ahead and I'm going to read the introduction, and I'm going to read the rules. Me me me me me. No. So it is Saturday, 02/17/2024. It's one thousand four hundred and forty seven days since the evidence of COVID related crimes against humanity first became evident. Former Feds Group Freedom Foundation began its COVID Humanity Betrayal Memory Project to memorialize these stories, raise awareness about these crimes, and bring about accountability for all COVID related crimes against humanity, all COVID related crimes. 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With that, before I give you an update on the last two weekends that, the events that I've gone to, I, will say, Andy has some things to say. And then, so, Andy, if if you want to go ahead Speaker 9: and speak Speaker 15: Sure thing. Hello, everyone. Okay. So before I begin, I wrote just a little baby thing down I wanted to share with everyone. Before I read it, I want to tell you a little baby story about my uncle Howard Adamski. Okay? He's one of the biggest and best in the mergers and acquisitions field ever. And, when his daughter got married, my cousin, Catherine, I was at the wedding, and I looked at my uncle Howard during the trade war deal that Trump was trying to cut with China. And I looked at him, and I said, Howard, what do you think about all this? He looked at me with great conviction, and he said, Andrew, I'm worried. I'm worried. The way he said it did not make me feel good. And it did make me concerned because I'm someone who trades markets, and I've been doing it a long time. And to hear it from a guy like him, it it put chills down my spine. So let me read what I wrote. It's been almost three years since my dad's agreed to Steph. Since his passing, half of the people I've known my whole life no longer speak to me anymore, including my own sister. The result of this has aged me and saddened me in the deepest part of my soul. I remember like it was yesterday when I was speaking to all these people. Now it's just me and my mother and my good my good friend, Billy. My best friend, Billy. Great guy. This new paradigm in my life has made me question everything. I'm convinced that The United States is over. We are now in a time of rebirth and renewal in our society. New concepts, new technology, and a new financial system are upon us. COVID was an excuse to make all of this happen at a rapid pace. Regardless, I will most likely be a very sad person the rest of my life because of this. Whoever is listening to this in the future, please cherish every moment you have with your loved ones. It could all be gone within a blink of an eye. Now I wrote this this quote by a man by the name of Ralph Waldo Emerson. I freaking love this quote. Here we go. Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. Thank you everyone for your time. Speaker 6: Thank you, Andy. Thanks, Andy. Speaker 16: Absolutely. Speaker 6: Yeah. So Speaker 3: I love that quote too, Andy. Yeah. Oh, it's great. Speaker 17: Yep. And I know and that's what I know it's an incredibly Speaker 6: hard time coming up for you because it is how many years since your dad died in March? Speaker 15: That'll be three years, this month. And, I'm, you know, I I went and got a bunch of signs, and I have written, I wanna say, about a 100 letters I'm about to mail out to the universe this week to everyone that is I would consider important. Ken Paxton, the attorney general of Texas, got a handwritten letter from a certified mail that I just sent to him. So let's see where this goes. But Yeah. I I'm opt I'm still optimistic, but I wanna let everyone know that I'm actually a lot more sad than mad and happy. Like, if you took the if you took anger and happiness and you put you put anger and sadness, put it on one side of the the seesaw. K? And on the other side of the seesaw is the sadness. The sadness is actually keeping up it's weighing up the other side of the emotion. The sadness is really there, and it's, like, carved in stone for me. Yeah. So you know? Yeah. Yeah. When this when stuff like this happens to to people, especially the way I it happened to me, it's almost like, you know, once you get a tattoo, it's there forever forever. And that's how I feel. There's a spiritual tattoo on my heart for me. You know? And, Speaker 6: COVID did that to me. Maybe we'll have to plan something for your dad's Speaker 15: the anniversary, maybe a rally outside the hospital or something. That'd be great. Yeah. I actually And you Brad was saying No. Hold signs. What? That'd be cool. Take it from you at the wrong time, in the wrong way, by the wrong Speaker 3: person. You know, it's different than just Yeah. That you're losing a a grandparent or something because they're old. And, you know, we're we're able to cope with that better than we are than this kind of just trauma, just out of the blue trauma Speaker 15: and murder. And this So it's a different kind of grief and it take you out. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry for cutting off, Cece. No. But to to to add to what you're saying. Okay? To add what you're saying. This same hospital, six years before they did what they did to him, did open triple bypass open heart surgery on him. And I got to sleep next to his bed every night, And it didn't matter what, you know, the the staff didn't care. They're like, oh, it's his son, whatever. I never had no cop ever came to play Guido with me. None none of that. And then along comes COVID, and now you're lucky if you can get anybody to, anybody to go see anybody in a hospital, unless you work there or you're a volunteer. So this paradigm shift has really affected me. And, I, I was a little boy. I used to roam the halls of this hospital watching my dad pull tubes out of people because he was an otolaryngologist head and neck surgeon. So, I would see him do all of this. And it was really fascinating. But, you know, now I, every time I drive by this hospital now, whenever I do, it's like, it's like a bad dream, the best way to describe it. Because, you know, every no one wears masks anymore. There's no mandates anymore. You know, I will never go I will never fly. I used to fly all the time. And when I could afford it, I would fly first class and drink all the champagne on the plane and and talk to all the beautiful stewardists. I don't do that anymore. I do none of that. I don't fly. COVID killed it for me. American airlines American airlines was forced me to go to another plane because I was being difficult about my mask. And I mean, and and I was in first class too. This is this is just a betrayal as a as a as a customer, a lifelong customer to a brand that I've known my whole life to do this today and embarrass me. So Yeah. Speaker 6: There's a lot of but there's a lot of things I will not do anymore because or places I will not go because they became mass not Nazis. I haven't gotten my nails or feet done in three or four years now. I haven't a lesson for that, Gail. Well, no. I mean, like, I had to I I was willing to put on a mask one time to get my nails done, and I felt dirty. And I said, I will never love something so much that I will compromise myself again. And so every time and I used to get my nails and feet done every other week, twice a month, and I said never again because it made me weak, made me so weak. And so never again will I ever do that. So Speaker 3: I just There's a lot that we feel betrayed on. You know? I mean Mhmm. Just that was this whole thing. It was a huge a huge betrayal, and especially the the medical industry. I mean, that we're supposed to always find comfort when you felt sick to go to the hospital, and now everyone's terrified. It's just such a weird shift, and it happened so fast. I mean, I know I see a couple doctors on here. I'm sure that they they would've tested too that, like, doctor Bain tells me all the time. He doesn't even recognize his own profession anymore. He's disgusted with it. And, of course, Scott, you know, he he's been through hell because of as he did after. He's he's had lawsuits against, entities and stuff for, you know, them trying to make him do things he didn't wanna do. Speaker 13: Yep. Yeah. Retard's yeah. I mean, everybody Well, it's interest it's interesting today. Like, maybe ten minutes ago, Shelley was unpacking some of her stuff, and she handed me a a card. And she's like, do you know who this woman is? And it was a Chinese name, and it had some words written on it. I'm like, oh my gosh. That's the woman who was given so it was a patient that I sent to the hospital her English as a second language. And I sent her to the hospital for imaging. That was it. And then to go home. But that was one of the cases against me, Rosemarie. And I was like, that's the woman that was able to drop off, like, a Chinese tea to the hospital for the nurses to bring it up to her. We couldn't It was just a horrific situation. She she died. But, it was the first time in in, like, sixteen months or I'm like, holy cow. We can drop stuff off. Like, they'll bring and even though Rosemarie died, and I was talking I've talked to her son quite a bit about it, and I was like I was like, Brad, you're mom. Because of because of the interventions and just how the way I look at it, how the holy spirit came in and and directed all of it. And if it weren't for her, I there's I don't know that I would have even known that we could have gotten all those other hundreds of people out of the ICU. And so I don't I didn't say this to him, like, in that context, but it's, like, it's not a consolation. I mean, your mom was a beautiful human being, and her loss is tragic. I just want you to know because of everything you did and your involvement in doing everything that you could to save her life, what what we were able to experience. And, it it saved hundreds of lives of people that otherwise would have died in the hospital. Speaker 6: Yeah. Exactly. So, Speaker 13: And hold on. I have to say, she came over to my house at, like, 11:45 at night. My wife's sitting at the table. She's like, why is there a little Chinese woman in our house? And I have a cutting board, and I'm dicing up medications to put into tea. I'm like like, literally chef's knife, like, chopping them up, crushing it, and putting it in and then, like, tasting it. And she's like, should you be drinking that? And I was like, well, yeah. Like, we've gotta get it. But she was she was already I mean, she was, like, last couple days type of thing. It was too far gone before we figured it out. But there's this little woman at our house. She was like, Scott, I don't know that this is a good idea. I was like, well, let's see. But, Speaker 3: yeah, there's a lot of I've been told by several doctors they brought people to their houses or went to theirs because they were worried about what they would you know, the the protocol. Yeah. And they're risking their jobs and and did but did not want to use it. You know, I think doctor Wishart was a couple of them. And doctor Bay. Yeah. Or hotels. Speaker 6: Mhmm. Or hotels. Yep. That was, yep. I mean, it's what it took for me too, you know, coming home and turning my living room into a into a, MASH unit. Let me, go ahead and give, let me go ahead and give my updates, and then we're gonna go to after I give my updates, we will go to C B and then Ed and then then and then Jenny and Amy. So, let me give my updates on the I haven't been here for the last two weeks for, spaces because I've been at different events. So the first event, many of you know that I, I live in Texas. Right? So we had two Saturdays ago. There was a rally, not on the border. It was not in Eagle Pass as many people were afraid it would be in. It was actually at a private ranch in, just between EcoPass and Del Rio. And, I can't remember now. But we went down, to that rally. And the reason we went down to that rally is because of what's going on. Everybody is probably aware of what's going on at the Texas border and the and the Arizona border and the California border. And so we have a very bad problem here in Texas where, people it's a human trafficking problem, and some of these kids that come over, are sold or they disappear. I mean, there's, like, 8,500 kids. No. 85,000 kids that are missing and so that they can't find, which is absolutely insane. And these kids, they don't live very long. I think the average lifespan that they have once they are sold into sex slaves as sex slaves or farm slaves is about two years, and they live a very brutal life. Their lives are are so we we care about that. Not only do we care about that, but it has crept into, just everyday life. Right? Their Walmart has become a big place for kids of the spirit. So we went we went to this rally, and one of the reasons one of the other reasons we went is because people were saying things like, they were saying things like, oh, don't go. It's gonna be another January 6. And, you know, and I was like, it's on private property. So my congressman is gonna be there. The sheriff of that county is gonna be there to speak. So, the the the fact that people were so afraid that they were willing this told me that j six, they did its job, did its job. It was meant to scare everyone into shutting the hell up about anything. Do not do not invoke your first amendment right. Just don't do it. Don't do it. We'll we'll get you. And so me and my husband were like, we are not gonna be cowards. We are gonna go down there and we are going to assert our first amendment right and nobody is going to scare us out of it. And I hear people I would hear people people I knew said, Oh, I can't go. I'm afraid to go because of what happened in January 6. And I'm like, You know, that sticker that you have on your car? Pry it from my cold dead hands? Take it off. Because if you're so afraid that you're willing to just lay down your first amendment right, you're not gonna fight for any of your other rights. So, so we went. We went to prove that it was a good, peaceful event and that you could go and still rally and still speak and still, invoke your first amendment right without fear of the government. And so that's why we went. And it was an amazing event. Lieutenant, colonel doc Pete Chambers was there. My representative was there. There were some j six political prisoners who are running for office that were there. There were some, so it was just a really beautiful event. A lot of media was there, and I'm so glad we went. I'm so glad we went. So that's where I was two weeks ago. And then this last Saturday, me and Andy were not on because, Mick Meow, who we'll get to, in a little while, she had an event in Oklahoma City that I spoke at. It was a great event. Scott Miller was there and doctor Gaffanti was there and, Sue Roberson, who's our Oklahoma state chair, spoke. Peggy Springer, who's our Kansas City state chair. Doctor Moon. There were incredible speakers. I'll let Mick tell you more. But it was a it was a medical freedom event, and it was super important that we go up there and we support. And so me and Huckleberry and Andy and our friend Joel, who's a, Joel Merrill, who's a, a widower, his wife was killed by the protocols as well. We all went up and had a great time, and, so we'll talk more about that later. So that's so I'm glad I'm back on. Missed you guys. Oh, and I just wanna say, I see turbo rocket shark turbo rocket shark in he's on. He came up to that event, and it was so great to meet somebody from Twitter's faces up there. What a great guy. He's a great guy. We had a we really enjoyed him coming up there. So, thanks for doing that. Alright. Let's go to, it's enough for me. Let's go to, CV, then, CV, Jenny, Amy. So CV, you can unmute yourself. Speaker 20: Alright. Thank you so much. Good evening, everyone. I appreciate being here. I just have a short story. My witness seen the vaxx injured and the dying and the death of my two siblings. So there's been plenty of that going on as far as me witnessing people who've been vaxx injured, especially with my handyman not being able to work as much as he's been able to and me not being able to trust people to hire them if they're vaxxed. So but my brother and sister both passed within four months of each other of turbo cancer. My brother first in August, urethra went to his bone, then it went into bone cancer. My sister was melanoma that went into brain cancer. And they both only had approximately a month each to get their affairs in order. My brother went into the hospital, never came out. My sister did go to the hospital and came out briefly and went back in, and that was the end for her. The next thing that happened after that was I just went to see my doctor, and I took my doctor a packet of information to educate him. He's been our family doctor for thirty some odd years and was a vas pusher. So and I've had copious amounts of conversations with him where he told me to shut up where he wouldn't see me anymore a while back. And so, the, my father passed away also in 2021. And I don't know if what that was from exactly, but we were on hospice. He was on hospice care for the second time. And it could have been from who knows what going on there. Anyway, I'm gonna shut up now. Thank you for letting me speak, and I appreciate you. Speaker 6: Oh, thank you for speaking. I would encourage you to tell theirs tell your family's story on chbmp.org if you haven't already. I'm very I'm so sorry about about your, your siblings and all that your family is going through. It's horrible. Speaker 20: Yeah. And and we're not done yet. We don't know who else or whom else is going to be another victim because some other people, have been I call it vexed. I got used to calling it vexed a long time ago when we were being censored from saying it the other way. Yeah. So, anyhow, I'm gonna shut up now. Thank you. And, I will consider telling that story for sure there. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. Before we get to any can you We're gonna go to Speaker 3: Can you read that first thing that you said in the very beginning again? I think it's so important. We have so many more people go on. Speaker 6: Oh, you want me to read it all, but they're just the beginning or not? Yeah. Not that you don't have to do the rules. Not the rules. Okay. Alright. So, before we go to Ed, I'll read this little piece here. So what I read in the beginning is it is Saturday, 02/17/2024. It's been 1,447 since evidence of COVID related crimes against humanity first became evident. Former Feds Group Freedom Foundation began its COVID humanity betrayal memory project to memorialize these stories, raise awareness about these crimes, and bring about accountability for all COVID related crimes against humanity. If you have a story to tell, please submit your story at chbmp.org and also share all the stories that are out there. Watch them and share them so that we can to help us get the truth out there. The more you share, you know, we have to overcome the algorithms to get that information out there, and we need your help to do it. So there's about I don't know. There's over 1,100 stories that are published. I've got a bunch to publish. So or 1,100 stories that are told. I got a bunch to publish, like, 36 I gotta publish this weekend and early next week. Speaker 3: Alright? So many people out there that just think they lost somebody to COVID. They don't understand that it was the protocol. So the more we share, the more stories we get in our project, the more we have a chance of getting justice and accountability. So it's really important that you put your stories in or tell people, you know, we have a a car magnet that says, COVID hospital death, question mark, may not be from COVID. Because people are they just they don't know when they feel alone. I and I think a lot of them just have that gut feeling that just something didn't feel right. And Speaker 6: It actually says loved one died of COVID question mark. Are you sure question mark? Go to chbmp.org. Speaker 3: I'm re I'm reading it right now. Oh, really? Because that's what mine says. COVID hospital death question mark may not be from COVID. Chbmp.org. Holding it in my hand, Gail. Yeah. But one of the, and we need there's a million Are you guys fighting? No. If it was Scott, we would never fight. I would just pluck her eyelash. No. I'm just kidding. That's easy. Very funny. Very funny. And and we need, you know, all the doctors and attorneys and all the professionals to step up and help fight, and we do that by raising awareness and making a demand for it. And one of those attorneys has done that, and he's here with us tonight. Hey, Ed. Speaker 10: Ed. Ed Tarpley. Speaker 23: Yes. Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm well. How are you tonight? Speaker 3: Good. Good to see you. We'll see you in the two coming up for the health and freedom summit. Speaker 23: Yes. Yes. Indeed. Yes. Indeed. Look forward to seeing everyone. Yes. Well, I, I am glad to be, with the group again tonight. And, the, news I would like to share is that yesterday, the US Supreme Court, set the date for oral argument in the Fisher case, and they have set Tuesday, April 16 Tuesday, April 16 for oral argument in the Fisher case. This is the case that the former Feds Group Freedom's Foundation and members filed an amicus brief on January 29. We were the second amicus brief to be filed. Actually, since that time, I think there's been about eight or nine others. So, so the oral argument has now been set, and, we know that that that will be the day that, the, justices will hear the arguments and ask the questions. So that's gonna be an exciting date. We think that, we have a really good case, that the government misapplied the statute, this, 15, 1512, c. For for those of you that don't know what I'm talking about, I'll I'll give you a little brief update here. It's, 18 USC, section fifteen twelve c. This is a statute, part of the law, the Sarbanes Oxley law that was passed in the wake of the Enron scandal, years ago, and it had to do with the tampering of evidence. And so the the statute, clearly, intended for it to be applied, with regard to the, what we call, the spoliation of evidence. In other words, tampering or, you know, doing anything to affect, evidence. And so the the statute reads, it said, whoever corruptly, number one, alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so with the intent to impair the object's integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding, or and it goes to subsection two, otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes an official proceeding or attempts to do so shall be fine under this title or in prison not more than twenty years or both. So what's happened in the January 6 cases is that, there have been over 300 convictions, from this one statute. And, and and so the the Department of Justice decided, for the January 6 defendants to, twist and use this statute in a way that had never been used before. And and that was that they they took it away from the spoliation of evidence, and they applied it to, people, being at the Capitol, on the Capitol Grounds or e or even inside the Capitol. As you know, only a few went inside the capital. Most people were outside the capital on the Capital grounds, and and more than that never even got to the Capital grounds. But in any event, they they applied section two fifteen twelve c two, and and and and applied that statute to the actions of people there that day and argued that they obstructed an official proceeding, that they obstructed an official proceeding, which was congress meeting to certify the, results of the election. So this had never been done before. I mean, the Department of Justice had never ever, used this statute and applied it in this manner. And so, what's happened is is that, many defendants have objected to this, and three of them filed appeals to the, to the court of appeals, the the DC Circuit. And the DC Circuit ruled on this case back in the summer that that, well, you know, it was a two to one decision, and it was very confusing. But, basically, they said that, there was no vagueness here and that the DOJ hadn't done anything wrong by applying this statute the way they had applied it. Well, others disagreed, and so mister Fisher and two other individuals took writs to the US Supreme Court. The the the supreme court granted the writs. Now you understand the supreme court doesn't have to take your case, so you have to file a writ of certiori where you're asking them to consider your case. And in this instance, they they they granted it. They said, yes. We're gonna consider this case. So they granted writs, and, and so they they consolidated the cases, of mister Fisher and two other individuals. And those cases are being heard, and the lawyers have filed briefs on the cases, and and the amicus briefs have been filed. And so now we have oral argument coming up, in, in two months less than two months. Well, this is really important. This case is really important for many, many reasons. I mean, just on the face of it, what the Department of Justice did was wrong, that they that they took a statute that was clearly intended to be used on on physical evidence. I mean, documents and papers and spreadsheets and, that sort of thing. That's what this was about. This was about the tampering of evidence. It it it really was not about what they've said it was about, which was that, hey. This was about obstructing an official proceeding. And, and so they could so because they saw it that way, they use this as a vehicle to, prosecute, not just people that went into the capital, but people that were outside, you know, on the steps or on the on the in the parking lot or wherever they may be. And like I said, over 300 people have been, convicted of this, and and and people have gone to jail. People are serving jail time because of this one statute and because it it it cares a twenty year sentence. So now look. I'm I mean, I'm I'm trying to I'm not I'm not going into detail on this, getting in the weeds, about it. There's a lot of issues here. And, and and, you know, this is not a law seminar, but but I wanted you to understand just a little bit about what this case is about. Well, why is this important to people who are fighting for, health freedom? Why why is it important to people who are fighting the fight against, the government's intrusion into our lives, with with the vaccine and and and the hospital protocols and all these other terrible things that have happened in the last three years. Well, let's look at the first amendment, and here's why it's important. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. That's the first part of the first amendment, the freedom of religion. The second part is, are abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or of the right of the people to peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances? Okay. So there are five there are five constitutional freedoms established there, freedom of religion, the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the freedom of the right of the people to peacefully assemble, in other words, the freedom of assembly, and then finally, number five, the freedom to petition the government for redress of grievances. Well, what what we believe as the free the the the the, former Feds Group, Freedom's Foundation, organization believes is that if if the government is able to use this statute the way they have done in Washington DC with the January 6 defendants, they could apply this to anyone who is, who is, trying to influence, the government, Trying to influence, the Congress, on a piece of legislation or influence, your state legislature on a piece of legislation. In other words, this would impact our ability to to, peaceably assemble and to petition the government. So so what what we hope the Supreme Court will do is find that the the the the, interpretation of the Department of Justice was overbroad. It was vague. It was way overbroad. It was overreach that that they went way outside of what, this statute was ever intended to be used for, and they did this to to be able to prosecute those people that were there, at the Capitol that day, on January 6. So, we think we think that we have a solid case. I think that the, lawyers representing mister Fisher and the other two defendants have done an outstanding job, and there have been some outstanding amicus briefs filed in this case. And, and I am proud that I was able to file the the the amicus brief on behalf of the former Fez Group Freedom Foundation and members, which is all of you on this call, those of you who are a part of the former Fezroot Freedom Foundation. So in any event, I just wanted to give you that that update to let you know that oral argument has now been set. This case is moving forward. And so, our prayer is this, that the the justice of the justices of the supreme court will, will, respond to the arguments that are being made and agree that this statute is overbroad, that, that it's it's unconstitutional. And the way it's used here is certainly unconstitutional as the way as it was used against the January 6 defendants. And there are many other issues in there that I'm not gonna go into that. And there's an issue about the definition of the word corruptly, whether or not they have, they properly defined corruptly, and and and other other issues. But, the bottom line is I think we have a good case. I think we have a solid case. And my hope and prayer is that the Supreme Court will, will, overturn the the DC Circuit and will strike down, and overturn all of the convictions of the people that have been convicted, under this statute. So, let me pray thing. Oh my gosh. Let let's be a prayer. No. No. Let's be in prayer for the justices of the Supreme Court and for the lawyers that will be, making the oral argument, in April. And and we'll we'll talk more about it between now and then. But but, anyway but that's the big news that I have for you this week and to say that, we're we're just gonna continue to fight the good fight. And there are many different, there are many different battlefields in this, in this, struggle. Okay? There there there there's, there's activities that are taking place in every state, in your town, in your location, wherever you are living, with, hospitals and clinics and legislatures and your congressmen and there's so many different things to be done. And, and then, of course, just having the courage to continue to tell the truth, to to tell these stories, the power of stories, you know, that that that is what, telling the truth is all about. And, you know, the Bible tells us that, you know, if we, if we know the truth, the truth will set you free, and and the truth does set you free. There's nothing more powerful than the truth, and, we have to speak the truth. And, it doesn't matter whether, we are received the way we would like to be received, but we speak the truth in love knowing that God will honor and bless what we are doing if we are speaking the truth. And, and certainly, if we're doing that and, and doing it, you you know, with with God's blessing and asking God to bless our efforts. So, in any event, it's a pleasure and honor to be with you guys tonight. Speaker 13: Can can I ask a question on that with regarding I'm sorry. Because this is what you said a few things that were that were so striking to my case with the Washington Medical Commission, which ended up making us our family have to flee the state. You were they oh, shoot as priest. When I did a public records request, and I was able to get all of the information and see the, you know, the oh, I have to be I'll be brief with it, but they you had said something about the statutes where, basically, what they did is they took all of the information that under all of the letters of cooperation and statements of charges that I shared and was able to get factual information and provide, like, objective factual information on it. And they would omit anything that didn't fit the narrative. And when they would write up their their there's, like, other statements of charges. There's there's so many that just it's just, you know, 44 pages of stuff. But could those same could that same what you're using to go to the Supreme Court, could that be used on state medical commissioners? Speaker 23: Well, what I I well, the answer the answer is I don't know. Let me just say that, you know, if you're proceeding under state law, then, of course, you know, every state has their own laws, and every state has case law that interprets the law that that their states have. I mean, every state has a constitution, and every state has, you know, the revised statutes for for their particular state. So, so, you know, a lot of it would would depend on that. I I would say that, you know, what we have here is, you know, we have a a statute that the government, the Department of Justice used in a way that it was not intended to be used, And they have stretched the meaning of the statute, and it's overbroad. It's vague. And it was, done in such a way that it has, it has, deprived people of their constitutional rights. And so Speaker 13: Well, so is the the terms misinformation, disinformation. Right? There are states where if any provider says anything that's dis you know, determined misinformation, disinformation, they are they're going to be investigated and possibly lose their license. So how so in that broad definition, how do we how do we protect providers from that kind of tyranny? Speaker 23: Well, let me just say, every state, you know, is gonna be, handled differently. Are you talking about the state the medical, licensing boards for physicians and medical, personnel. Is that what you're talking about? Speaker 13: Correct. Where if any words that are said, if you say anything that goes against the narrative, you are automatically targeted. So, basically, they're they're using that power to strip you of your livelihood to try and prevent you from having any sort like, for being able to say anything that goes against the narrative or just just, like, consent informed consent. Like, nobody can give informed consent anymore because if they say anything that goes against the narrative, even the possibility of something, they can be turned in. So what like, we're in 2024. What protections can we have for these, you know, the providers that are wanting to stand up and to speak out or at least say words to their patients without being in fear of losing their livelihood? Speaker 23: Yeah. I would think that, you know, this is a battle that's probably gonna have to be fought in every state. In some states, they're probably gonna be a little more, difficult on providers than others. I mean, I think if you're in a red state, as opposed to a blue state, in other words, if you're in a state, you know, where, you know, you have a conservative Republican in office, you know, that that that would maybe make it easier for you to navigate issues like this. And in a blue state, for instance, say, like New York or Illinois, it's gonna be a lot more difficult than, say, in a place like, you know, Louisiana or Mississippi. Okay? But but even in red states, okay, it doesn't matter because, you know, you have people in the, you know, in in the the medical establishment that, you know, were so, you know, committed, to, the the narrative that they wouldn't deviate from it. But, so I I would I mean I mean, without I mean, I I mean, I can't really give anybody legal advice on this call, but what I would say is that that, in in whatever state you're in, that you probably you don't need to first work with a lawyer to just see what the laws in your state provide for. I mean, what what's what what's the constitution in your state provide for and and look at the body of law that's already there and see what you can use to your advantage. Now a lot of these places are, you know, controlled by, you know, like, the the the medical licensing board in a state usually operates on the authority of the state government, and they have the authority to regulate, you know, the profession. And so they've got their own rules and regulations set up, and so you have to go through, you know, their their regulatory process. And that, you know, that makes it difficult if they're gonna treat you the way you've been treated that that you that you just described. So, but I would say, you you know, you just you you need to, you know, find a lawyer or a law firm that, you know, is willing to look at your case and see, you know, if you've been treated unfairly, if you've been, you know, discriminated against in any way, and and and just you know, I would start I would I would start the research from that point. I mean, you've gotta see I mean, are there any laws that are in your favor? I mean, what is in your favor? I mean, certainly, we have the freedom of speech, guaranteed to us by the first amendment and all these other freedoms. But, you know, the the first amendment and all the bill of rights are to protect us against the government. Okay? So the the protections are against the government. But, certainly, you know, we live in a country where we used to venerate and uphold the freedom of speech, But, you know, we've seen that under attack, you know, in private institutions, and and everywhere else over the last several years. I mean, the censorship, regime that we saw in place, the, cancellation apps, activities, people being canceled on various platforms. I mean, all of these things were actions of against free speech. And so, I mean, I think I think I I think you ought to look at, I mean, there's this case that came down. The the attorney general in Louisiana filed a suit against the Biden administration, and, judge Dorothy in the in the Western District Of Louisiana handed down the ruling. It it's it was, last year on censorship. And, and and, you know, then he had a stay order in place against the federal government for to to stop them from censoring certain speech. So that was that was a big, big time ruling that took place, and it's gone up to the, to the court of appeals. And and so that's it's still out there, but, I mean, that that that was an indication right there of what can happen in the federal courts on an issue of free speech and censorship. So, and that's might be something you might wanna take a take a look at that opinion. You know, I know Alan Dershowitz has written some really good stuff on on free speech and censorship and what is going on in our country with, with with the the the shutting down of speech and people being canceled and people being, you know, censored from expressing views that were either, a, not not not popular or, b, against the the narrative of, of, of those that, you know, were in charge. So, so those are some areas you can look at, but, look, I I think you definitely you know, I'm sure I mean, you already have a lawyer, I assume. You already have lawyers that have helped you with that. Would that be correct? Speaker 3: Yeah. He has. I believe it's, he's Speaker 13: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, getting through my and listen. I I don't I didn't wanna take up that much time from you. I apologize. I was just curious on on that. Let me just But, yeah, I mean, getting through my my hearing, but, you know, we got to a point where where, you know, where the state's able to basically just determine outsets of you know, where, you know, had we not left, I would have gone to jail. And I'm like, but but they lied, and we have literal, like, objective evidence that they fabricated and made things up. They lied across the board. Anyway, I you don't need to continue. I apologize. You just said something. We're like, holy cow. You know, some of these things are going to the Supreme Court. We've got to be able to to press our, you know, the Federation of State Medical Boards and the wash the the not the the medical commission, but the people in the medical commission to hold them accountable for their overt object, you know, prostitution of true I mean, they're just pouring out their narrative and and twisting things to to allow that agenda to continue regardless of any veracity of truth. And, like, at some point, they, like, there has to be some accountability because if if like, I will keep saying things, but my colleagues won't. I mean, I've already lost I've lost their but they can't speak up. They can't speak out. And if we don't have that voice, like, how are people going to believe anything from the medical community if they don't have the ability to speak objective to you? Well well well, let me say this. Let me say this. I'm gonna make I'm a make a couple of comments, and I'm gonna pass it on to somebody else. Speaker 23: Look. I think as a result of everything that has happened, we will never ever be able to look at the medical community the same way that we used to look at them. We will never be able to do that. Okay? It has changed forever. Look. I have my own doctors. I have, I have a a great, a family doctor. You know, she's a nurse practitioner, but she does a great job. She got me through COVID. I'm very grateful for her. But, you know, I mean, you know, I know my cardiologist personally. I know my urologist person. I know my dermatologist. I know all I have all the specialties, but, you know, I'm in a small area, so I know everybody. And, and most of the doctors I know are conservative doctors. Okay? But some of them were, like, all in on the on the vaccine. And I remember when I when I talked to my urologist two years ago, he said, Ed, have you taken the vaccine? I said, no. No. I have not. And, he said, well, you know, you really should you really should do it. Said, you know, people look up to you, and you're an influencer in your commute in the community. And, you know, you you you know, what what what you what you say to people, you know, has an impact. I said, well, thank you. I appreciate that, but I can't do it. I said, I'm not gonna take it. And I my wife's not gonna take it, and we're not gonna take it. We I believe it's an experimental, product. And and and and, yeah, it's not really a vaccine, and I'm not, I'm not, it's not something I'm convinced I should do. And so, so we our charge was not to do it. And, you know, we had other reasons too. But, anyway but the point I remember we we had a we had a we had a very, we had a very, a a a curt exchange, you know, and, and and and, which, you know, was very uncomfortable for a moment, but our friendship endured. And he's still my, he's still my doctor, but, but, for that specialty. But but but, you know, you have to have courage to speak up, and and we need to continue to have courage to speak up. We need we we we need to we need to keep the pressure on our public officials, state legislators, and your congressmen, if you know your congressmen. You know. I mean, they need to know that this is an issue that's not going away. We're not going away. We're going to continue to do what we're doing. We're just getting started. We're just getting started. This this is this is we're we're we're just we're at the beginning. Okay? That's where we are. We're at the beginning and, and so we have a story to tell. We the truth must be told and and we must get to the point in this country where we will never be held hostage to the government line on something that that that takes away our freedom and liberty to choose what kind of health care we want to receive. It was against the Nuremberg Code. Okay. Look up the Nuremberg Code and, you know, the idea that, you know, we would not be given the freedom to choose whether to take a vaccine or or this experimental, treatment or or any of these things, the hospital protocol, remdesivir, all the things that they've done to us and that we would not be we would not have the the the the the the the right to refuse and say, no. I do not want this treatment. Send me home. So in any event, look. There's so many things that need to be done. There are lawsuits being filed all around the country. This is all just getting started. All I'm gonna say is, look. Let's just keep praying. Give the glory to God for everything that we're doing. We're fighting all of this for the right reasons. And let's just continue to praise God. Ask Him for wisdom and direction. You know, the Bible says if any man likes wisdom, He'll give it to you. So, ask God for wisdom and let's pray for favor everywhere we go. And, and, and and we will see that, God will give us the victory one day. Speaker 3: I agree. And, thank you, Ed. That's such good news. And for those of you that, don't really understand what he was talking about about us filing an amicus brief, and correct jump in if I'm misstating it at all because I'm not an attorney, but this is what I know. An amicus brief is basically considered like a friend of the court. So it's an individual or or organizations that want to give insight or information to the court on a case that they're not a party to, if that makes sense. So maybe that the that the the judge or the or the, Supreme Court hasn't considered. And the reason why we filed this on behalf of our organization is because and hundreds of of our victims signed it, is because of the misapplication of the statute is it affects our constitutional rights too. So that's what he was saying. And I'll and I'm gonna read you, like, one pair. Is that correct, Ed, before I go on? No. No. No. That's that's absolutely correct. I mean, we're we're weighing in on this. Speaker 23: We're, we're, we're, we're coming at it from the aspect of the health freedom movement, but we are saying, look, this could be applied to us. This could be applied to us, fighting for what we believe to be true in the in the halls of congress or the halls of the state legislature. This could all be applied to us. So, yes, this is way too broad. What the what the what the DC Court of Appeals did was wrong, and this this needs to be overturned. That's what we're saying. Speaker 3: Yep. And so I was gonna read a couple paragraphs that I think you can read the whole thing on our website. But it says the former Fed's group Freedom Foundation is an IRS code 501 c three. The foundation and its members intend to influence official proceedings and may engage in actions that some could twist into obstructing or impeding. Now the foundation, is made up primarily of hundreds of widows and next of kin of victims of hospital treatment protocols and mRNA vaccines that in many instances were coerced or administered remdesivir, proven long before COVID to be extremely dangerous as a failed drug, without compliance, without informed consent. These victims have found themselves opposing conventional wisdom through free expression and peaceful civil disobedience. If a Center for Disease Control and Prevention official visited hospitals for fact finding, activists could be accused of obstructing proceedings by assertively and instantly demanding answers about protocols that led to their relative's deaths. So, like, in you know, we could be in in the same kind of fear as the j sixers were, but because Speaker 4: we could be going we're rushing in the hospitals and demanding answers. Speaker 3: They have they have and will protest unsafe hospital procedures and interventions and inadequately tested mRNA genetic experimental treatments, misnamed as vaccines or vaccine boosters in order to stop falsehoods that they are convinced led to the death of their loved ones. And then, he, they cited our organization's website, the 25 commonalities, and all the cases. So we're hoping that this brief gives them another insight on, hey. The the Amica, us, we have a stake in this too because you're infringing on constitutional rights with these people. You also are on ours. This ruling has an effect on all of us. Yep. I hope explained it better. Thanks, Stacy. Speaker 6: Before we this was kind of a long the you know, we wanna try to get these a little bit shorter, but, but that was good. We needed that information. So I appreciate I appreciate we went longer on that. But I do want to get we've got a lot of people waiting to speak, and maybe some of them have questions for Ed. So just, if you can I hope hopefully, you can hold out because there may be people who have questions? But I do wanna I wanna go to nurse Amy next. So nurse Amy. Speaker 24: Hey there. Can you hear me okay? Yeah. Sure can. Alright. So my name is Amy. I'm a registered nurse over here in Oregon. I worked the front lines during COVID in 2020. I was deployed, quote, unquote, to the highest hit areas, during 2020, so I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot of the initial rollouts. Speaker 7: I Speaker 24: this is kind of hard for me to say because, you know, they're for nurses, they're for me, okay, because we're not all built the same, there is definitely, some guilt about the initial rollout of remdesivir. I ended up giving it to one patient, and something just didn't sit right with me, and I thought, you know, I need to look this up more and, never gave it again. And thank goodness, I I took it upon myself to to look more into it because, I then learned what what it was all about. I am COVID vaccine injured. I've been disabled since January 2021. I've had to learn to walk, talk, regain control of bowel and bladder, the whole, hospitalized for stroke, like, the whole gamut. But I am getting to a point where I am more mobile. You You know, it's been a long, hard journey, and, it's it's been rough as far as the COVID vaccine injury, but also the loss of loved ones. You know, I have so many dear friends who've lost parents, family members, and, I I just so you know, I will be taking on the role of Oregon state chair for CHBMP, which I'm very excited about because I did not even know about CHBMP until two months ago. I'm on the West Coast, and it's very, very liberal. We don't I mean, in Portland, you know, we had riots for days. This information just doesn't get out here. And so that is one thing that I want to accomplish. I want folks to know that there are people out there, that we can we can make a difference. Because over here, they still think everything is COVID. When my father passed away in March 2020, they tried to tell me he had COVID. And I said, show me the lab results. Nobody could show me. The doctor couldn't show me. Nobody told me anything. And so I said, you better take it off right now because if you can't if you can't show me, it's not going down that way. And so they did, but most cases, family members don't don't get that luxury of even knowing the questions to ask. So that's my story. I'm glad to be here, and, I know we're gonna be moving mountains, together because not one person can do all of this. So thank you for having me. Speaker 1: Thanks. Thank you, Amy. Speaker 6: Thank you so much. Speaker 3: Okay. So glad you're doing the same. Next, we're gonna go to Speaker 6: Miriam, and then we're gonna go so this is the order. Miriam, McMeow, Snootspray, Jenny Pack. Doctor Licatus is on TV. I see, but there's people before him. Okay. So, Miriam and then Mick Meow. Speaker 1: Okay. Sorry. Miriam is not on mic. She dropped the listener. So, I sent you a mic invite, Miriam, if you wanna accept that. But I would like to go to Patriot Politics because, he got cut off during our last space because trolls were mass reporting us. Oh, okay. Awesome. Speaker 25: Welcome. I won't call you Patrick. Go ahead. Thank you. My name is Mila. Yes. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I love listening to everyone's stories. It's very heartbreaking, because I also went through it myself, personally inside the hospital. I was able to bust my mom out of one hospital under the guise of hospice, but then hospice wouldn't wanna treat her because it's for the end of life. And then, we ended up getting her transferred over to, home health care. And the first day the nurse came, she put on an oxygen meter on my mom's finger and said, I legally can't, service your mom. And then she called her, superiors, and then I was stuck to take my mom back to the hospital because we were running out of oxygen at home, and hospice was supplying that. Ended up going to the third hospital, and I, assumed things were gonna be different because we went through a different practice, or institution. And, they were more rude than the previous two hospitals, and they automatically I watched them kill my mom right in front of me while she's gasping on a a huge ventilator, or a huge, oxygen mask. And she's confused, and I'm begging them to give her antibiotics and then telling them, you know, she's been malnourished. She was given remdesivir. In, first hospital, she went to three days and somehow was able to, check out of the hospital on her own. But then on whenever she went home, she couldn't breathe. She had difficulty breathing, got panicked, and called an ambulance. And they took her to the second hospital, which was still part of the same first hospital institution. And, that's where I challenged the doctor and found out that he didn't wanna give her antibiotics to treat the pneumonia. And the reason why I know there was no gain of function virus is because, the research I found is I looked into all these superbugs that, that the CDC, NIH, NIAID claims to be fearful of because it becomes, antimicrobial resistant, and that's been like a program. And then Destiny's talked about it last time I was on there, on this, space as well that this carb executive order through Obama in 2014 put in infrastructure throughout hospitals throughout The US, access hospitals, regular hospitals, private institutions, and it worked with, like they picked assigned one physician as a control infection officer with a pharmacist, and they controlled and reviewed every prescription of antibiotics. And this has been a brainwashing of physicians through universities for over twenty to thirty years. They put this plant to seed that by overprescribing antibiotics, you're gonna create this superbug that that is gonna become anti antibiotic resistant. So the numbers are, if you go to CDCs, and this is gonna be in my thread, I'm gonna finish it tonight. You know, like, when you start a thread, you do get do you do get exhausted and wore out from copying links, pasting, and trying to make it all sound, coherent. But if you look into the CDC's numbers on their website, the superbugs, c diff, staph, strep, I forget the other three off the top of my head, but they label six superbugs that they fear the most of becoming antibiotic resistant. And in the numbers themselves, they say they're all estimated off a CDC computer algorithm. So they take some data and then they multiply it, and it becomes a manufactured number. So total of all six superbug bacteria that the CDC is afraid of and pushes this antibiotic stewardship across the world is 38,000 max, and this these are estimated numbers. If you take the annual death count of influenza or pneumonia, It ranges from fifty five to sixty six thousand on the CDC's website and the NIH's website. If you take the number of of COVID nineteen pneumonia patients that died in the three years from 2020 to 2023. It's over one million six hundred thirty nine thousand three hundred and eighty two, and I'm sure the number has grown since then. Those numbers don't add up. You have thirty eight thousand estimated manufactured numbers of these superbug bacterial deaths by the CDC, thirty eight thousand. Then you have the annual pneumonia death count, ranges from fifty five to sixty six thousand, and this includes comorbidities with the pneumonia. Because normally, pneumonia is treated with antibiotics. And then you have the COVID nineteen pneumonia death count, one million plus. And then if you divide that up, the one million plus into three, it ranges around five hundred thousand COVID nineteen pneumonia deaths a year under COVID under the these past three last past three years. It it goes to show you that, it wasn't the the viral infection that killed because the hospitals were turning away people with influenza or influenza like symptoms, COVID nineteen, right, during influenza season. What it was is patients came to the hospital after they started developing secondary bacterial pneumonia. In a 2008 paper, doctor Taubenberger of the NIH and NIAID Fauci and doctor Morins wrote that it wasn't the viral infection that killed all the millions of people in the nineteen seventeen eighteen pandemic, it was the secondary bacterial pneumonia infection. In my research, I went down the rabbit hole and found out what caused the nineteen seventeen eighteen pandemic. In Fort Riley, Kansas, they started to immunize soldiers preparing to enter World War one. Before this, there was a a epidemic of measles in the US military. So they decided they lost, I don't know how many thousands of lives due to the measles pandemic because the number one complication of measles is pneumonia. And at that time, they didn't have antibiotics to treat the secondary bacterial pneumonia of any of these viruses. So in 1917, they decided it was a good idea to vaccinate with a new measles vaccine that was live attenuated, so you're getting the full live virus, into all The US soldiers preparing to enter World War one. Number one complication of measles is pneumonia. I have a documentation of this that I'll be posting tonight. And then they decided to ship troops from base to base, from Kansas to all over The US, and that's how the first pandemic started in The US because then the soldiers went to World War one. It's called Community Acquired Pneumonia, and in I'm sure you guys are all familiar with that simulation COVID nineteen pandemic, that was sponsored by Bill Gates in The Who, event two zero one. Well, in in that, video, it shows, how they rename CAPS, which is community acquired pneumonia syndrome. They labeled it corona coronavirus, associated pulmonary syndrome. The same three letters or four letters, they just switched it from community acquired pneumonia to coronavirus associated pulmonary syndrome, which is one and the same. It's it's what happens when influenza virus is untreated untreated, excuse me, is untreated and develops into secondary bacterial pneumonia. And then once again, in that 2008 paper, Fauci knew with the other two scientists from NIH that if the viral infection isn't treated, the secondary bacterial pneumonia will kill fatally. So you it's, it's quite easier. Speaker 13: Well, that that's not the problem. The problem was HHS money that said that if you use anything other than monotherapy, which is remdesivir, that they won't pay out. That's true. That's true. That's true. To get the money. So all these people coming in that were septic with bilateral, bilateral infiltrates and and consolidation with crackles on auscultation where we knew that it was bilateral back to secondary bacterial pneumonia. They would put in an order for severe sepsis protocol, then they'd get the chest X-ray. And then a doctor would come in and be like, nope. Stop that. It's it's, COVID pneumonia because they needed to get their money through the excess money from HHS for monotherapy with remdesivir, and they would wait until the last twenty four to thirty six hours of life before they would introduce any type of antimicrobial Speaker 25: therapy. Yep. Yep. 100%. I agree that. Yeah. So the executive order basically written in 2014 was a five year program that went into effect on 11/29/2019 and became enforceable through HHS and CMS, Medicare just like, the good, I believe the doctor was speaking. Oh, what happened? Oh, man. Speaker 6: What happened? Speaker 21: Oh, and what hear you. Oh, okay. Oh, Speaker 25: I my my screen went black, and I thought I I lost connection for some re I was like I did not hear you. Yeah. So, like, whoever was speaking with me, I am in a full agreement. So, yeah, it became enforceable, in March, thirtieth, 2020 just in coincidence with when the lockdowns happened as well, where CMS Medicare would penalize the hospital in more than one way. They would penalize financially when reimbursed, and then they also penalize the physician if they stepped out of the antibiotic stewardship protocol. They penalize the hospital by restricting formularies. And then, the the physician or pharmacist, whoever, permitted the antibiotic prescription to go through or to be, written and to avoid the antibiotic stewardship protocol would have to go through reeducation. So, yeah, I just wanted to share that with you, with everyone just because, that law by Obama is still in effect. So I just today, something popped up on my ex account where it said, Australia is having a measles outbreak. Well, you know, when when the world because this this, CARB, executive order was in association, in in coordination and cooperation with the WHO. So this carb is basically controlling the antibiotics, prescriptions worldwide. And if this measles outbreak is legit once again, I didn't fully read the article, but as I said that there was a measles outbreak in Australia, and if they're gonna restrict antibiotics, these poor patients that develop pneumonia from their measles, I'm afraid that they might face the same fate as what my mother did. And, you know, what's interesting too is I'm glad there's physicians on this call is what triggered this research for me too is after I witnessed my mom get murdered in the hospital by getting denied access to antibiotics, six months later, my mother-in-law, who's a little bit older than my mom, my mom was 72, my mother-in-law was about to turn 80, And, but she was in great health, and she fasted during lent and all this stuff. She was a she was a amazing woman. She died from an untreated UTI infection that developed into sepsis, and then they gave her a a colonostomy, gave her a colonoscopy bag, then gave her a tracheotomy, and she couldn't even talk to her, her, children while she was slowly dying. And, that was painful to see. And, you know, when I did my research in that antibiotic stewardship programs that are, implemented throughout our country and the world, the three conditions they focus on specifically are, number one, community acquired pneumonia, Number two, urinary tract infections, which blew my mind. You know? And then the third thing was skin and soft tissue, infections. And then another thing that an article, that was shared to me by my brother in law's is I don't know if you guys are familiar with the Chicago the famous '85 Chicago Bears with Ditka. So there's a defensive lineman named Steve Michaels. Mongo is his nickname. He's in the hospital currently right now. He has a UTI and a MRSA infection. The MRSA can lead into pneumonia, and so can well, the UTI can lead into sepsis. And then I went to, like, his family's, Twitter or X account, and they just said pray for him. And it's just so sad to see people go through like this. I mean, you know, he's also dealing with, I I think, another disease, on top of it. But, you know, for in America in 2024, to to say that we don't have, access to lifesaving cheap generic antibiotics, It's, it's it's I Yeah. You know, it's unimaginable. And then, Speaker 13: like, last year, I had a deal Well, they still give it out like candy. I believe it. It's it's handed out like candy. The problem is they're not they're not doing culture insensitivities. They delay that. I I spent a week trying to get a doctor to do a culture insensitivity on a four year old that came in with influenza that ended up getting diagnosed with a UTI that got put on Lasix that ended up in renal failure and and and then vented. She got a four year old got put on a ventilator, and I couldn't get the doctor to to culture the sputum because she said the results would be what did she say? The results would be possibly inconclusive, and we wouldn't know what to do with them. I'm like, they're objective. It's freaking it's freaking objective. You literally get the organisms that grow out in a culture and sensitivity. And it took, like, four days to get them to do it to the point where she was so sick. I mean, fortunately, fortunately, she's alive. But but it's not that they don't give antibiotics. It's just in the con especially in the context of COVID, the minute that they use that word, it's it's unusual. I've talked to maybe 15 hospitals across the country over 250 hospital phone calls, interventions, where where they were introducing antimicrobial therapy early on. Early when I say early on, they're, like, day twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, because they're like, well, it's viral. So you're right, but it's it's still given out constantly. It's just done shittily Yes. Yes. Which increases the risk for for, you know, to to to have resistance because it's it's done so ignorantly. For me, practicing pediatrics for fifteen years where it's like, well, you've got a fever and a cold, and it's like, here's an antibiotic. It's like, no. No. Hold on. Like, let like, let's let's actually have a an evaluation and and see what's going on. But so so they're still giving out all the time. It's just that they're done so stupidly. And in the hospital where they just, like, overtly give vancomycin for the COVID patients instead of rosethen and doxy or or azithromycin. It's like they picked the wrong shit. It it or they don't do any cultures, so they don't know if they have, like, beta lactam resistance. It's so stupid. I'm gonna stop. I'm so angry. So what you're saying is true, but it's still used. Antibiotics are thrown out like freaking candy. They're just done stupidly. Speaker 25: I I I I personally agree. Like, like, I had to deal with a shortage. My son had a, ear infection last year. Went to Walgreens, and they said, can you come back in maybe two days? We're currently out of antibiotics. And there was a lot of articles of antibiotics shortages, like, throughout the country, throughout the world. The Lancet says that, to treat, like, community acquired pneumonia and UTI, as soon as the diagnosis is is done, it should be started within the first four hours aggressively. And the fact that, you know, through this antibiotic stewardship program and that carb act through Obama, that in the protocols for these hospitals, it says to do a hard stop on all antibiotic prescriptions. And that it literally blows your mind because whenever the Lancet and the standard protocol has been since 1938, You treat pneumonia aggressively or you're gonna lose the battle. I mean, it is a fatal respiratory disease that people don't understand that because we haven't really seen it like this, I don't know, since the first World War, you know, it hasn't been a problem because physicians who recognize that the viral infection can develop into pneumonia, they're, like, proactively writing their prescription for antibiotics. They were like, here, have this. And then if your infection gets worse with this and your antiviral prophylactic doesn't start to kick in, you take the antibiotic as soon as possible. And, since there's physicians on, I was wondering if someone can answer me this question. In the first hospital where my mother went to, it was charted in the past that she had pneumonia, like, two years ago, and she she took that, stupid, pneumococcal, vaccine, which I think it probably triggered her because she's never had pneumonia in her entire life, and she had it in the past two years prior to this COVID nineteen pneumonia. So she goes to the hospital. In her clinical notes, medical records, it says the ER doctor was gonna send her home with antibiotics and other prescriptions to take at home. Somehow, this and I don't understand this, so I'm hoping someone can explain this to me. The pulmonologist that my mom initially went to and he sent her to the hospital in Pennsylvania, he somehow overrode the ER doctor and said that she's gonna stay in the hospital when she wanted to leave, and the ER doctor gave her the go ahead per the clinical notes and was gonna send her home with prescriptions. So that still boggles my mind, and I I how does a pulmonologist override the institution's ER doctor? Speaker 26: No. That's I can comment on that for sure. Yeah. What probably happened, well, the pulmonologist would definitely, be, you know, above the ER as far as well, they're they're gonna call the pulmonologist, you know, maybe if they got, you know, COPD or, you know, whatever. But I that's not real typical to actually They actually call a pulmonologist like like that for a consult from the ER because it's not usually a lot that you have to do emergently. The ER like, if somebody's being admitted, they call me as a hospitalist first, and then I'm supposed to be the gatekeeper being admitted or not. And I try the ER nowadays admits nine out of ten patients. Like, you know, it's well, literally probably about seven to 10 if you actually do the math on these. And, so, typically, they're it's usually the ER docs wanting to admit every patient. You know, even a lot of these people, you could have a UTI, you know, and you just need a backroom for three days, and they'll still admit them. You know, it could be a 25 year old, and they'll think, oh, well, their heart rate was a 100, you know, when they walked in here, so they could be septic. And that's sepsis is, of course, one of the biggest moneymakers for the hospital. So, you know, fifty percent of the people that walk in the door will qualify as septic. All you have to be doing is breathing fast and, you know, 20 respirations per minute and your heart rate above 90 and you're septic. If you have a source, they can say, oh, well, you might have, you know, I don't know what you know, pneumonia or some GI infection. But, but, typically, if in this case, you know, normally, it's I don't know why they call the pulmonologist, you know, in that case, unless it was, you know, her pulmonologist, and they wanted to see, you know, should we admit her or should we not. But, usually, like, say, if somebody's having chest pain, they used to call their cardiologist and say, do you want them admitted? Here's the EKG, you know, blah blah blah. And then sometimes they say, yeah. Admit them. We'll see them in the morning. Sometimes they say, send them we can see them in the office tomorrow or, you know, do an outpatient follow-up and stress test. Now it's, like, almost a hundred percent anyone who says they have chest pain. Even if they got in a car accident the day before and they have chest pain from that, they're still gonna admit them and say they need to see cardiology. And our hands kinda forced is admitting now. Like, we're getting as the admitting doctor. We're kinda forced by the ER, which is really illegal, but nobody really cares, you know, because it makes the hospital more money. But, you know, we don't admit you know, if we argue with them, then that can become a complaint, and they can try to get us fired because, you know, we're not wanting to admit their patient. They can say that, oh, well, you know, that's, this patient need to be admitted. It's, you know, such and such, and Speaker 13: they can they can do a lot. But if their ECG is normal and they're not d salting, why wouldn't they why why why would I just why wouldn't that give you give somebody the liberty to have them go home? Right? Because they're not in critical state. Right. Well, they they should. I mean, technically, you know, there's hard scores and stuff like that, which, Speaker 26: it's it's really just about keeping the hospitals as full as possible. I mean, right now, I mean, the hospitals are probably fuller than they are during COVID, in my opinion. But, but, yeah, you're right. If if the EKG is normal, if they had two negative troponins, they should be able to go home. But now they say, well, the ER basically, you know, overrides us and says, no. I want them to see the heart doctor. Like, you know, kinda like, oh, well, they don't believe they don't care what the results are saying. They practically don't even ask, like, questions about, you know, the history of the chest pain. You know, they coulda got hit in the chest with a baseball. They don't care. They're still, you know, on the right side. They're having right side chest pain. They're still nope. They need to see cardiology. So it's, like, just guaranteed making, you know, this revenue of everybody has to come in, get admitted, and go home the next day. You know, observation isn't, like, an inpatient admission. So there's, like and that's partially that's because of Medicare changing those rules and all that. So that that's one of the main things I care about. You know? It's like, get them an observation, you know, have them stay for a day, have the cardiologist see them, do, you know, inpatient testing that's gonna cost 10 times as much as outpatient testing. And then, you know, they I've I've seen people come back three three or four times in a month. They coulda had a cath that was negative, like, three weeks ago, and the ER docs don't even read the history a lot of times because, you know, it would be a reason they don't need to admit somebody, actually. But I'll go through the note the chart, and I'll say, hey. They just had a catheter. They just had a, you know, nuclear stress test, like, two weeks ago or something or, you know, outpatient. Do we really need to admit them? Can you call their cardiologist? And, like, you know, if you really think they need to be admitted, I don't think they need to. And they'll be like, no. No. They need to be admitted. You know? It doesn't matter. And, you know, they could always say, well, anyone can have a heart attack, you know, at any time or a stroke. So, you know, someone who's 85 and comes in with dementia and they're, you know, more confused than usual, they're gonna, you know, oh, they might have had a stroke. I usually try to cut that off and, you know, go a different route if I if I can because they'll they'll call you know, page the neurologist, tell a neurologist, and then they'll say Speaker 13: they need to be admitted and do a full workup. And, you know But but they so let me ask you. When they when they do that, they don't do a full workup because they'll do if if it's, like, a stroke, they'll do a d dimer. And if the d dimer is normal, they don't do Pulmonary envelope. VEGF or Tregs or look for any kind of endothelial dysregulation. Right? Like, there's no other labs because they'll say I'll get the MRI. Will take a couple days. The MRI, which costs $20,000 Speaker 26: is what what needs what they want Speaker 13: done because you get it done. Gonna pick up on micro well, it's not gonna will. That's pick up on micro clots. Well, MRI will if there's a if there's a stroke. It's gonna pick all that up. It but it's that's in the brain, but it's not gonna pick up on it anywhere else. Speaker 26: Yeah. Which, hence, you know, you may have to do an echocardiogram. I mean, I you know, if they didn't actually have a stroke, you know, which if the MRI rules that out, you know, then you're not really gonna have to look for it. You know? It depends on their symptoms, of course. You know? But, but I'm my main point, you know, just in general, it's like, normally, I'm a little surprised. Well, I'll say as far as the case with the pulmonologist, that isn't abnormal because the specialists have kind of the call on that. So if the specialist says, hey. Like, the specialists have a lot more leeway to kinda talk crap to the ER, we'll say. So some of them will just get pissed off that they're even called, you know, in the middle of the night and be like, no. Of course. They don't they don't need to be admitted, you know, send them home. So, you know, they figured that out and they figured, oh, hey. You know, these cardiologists don't think anybody needs to be admitted. Let's just skip that over and just, you know, have the hospitalist tell them that you gotta see cardiology in the morning type thing. And now they tell me after 09:00 at night, they tell me it's too late. We're not gonna page the cardiologist. It's too late at night. You know? And I'm like, are you kidding me? They're they're paying me. I call twenty four hours. You know? And so a lot of these specialists, like, they won't even you know, they dump all their cases on us as hospitalists who admit even trauma cases, which is a whole, you know, specialty, you know, in itself that's regulated with, you know, statutes and all that. And you know? But we we'll have, like, the trauma surgeon's physician assistant accepting patients and just, like, calling our answering service and be like, hey. Admit this patient for us with, like, no information. You know? So it's like we're we're getting bossed around by I like, I feel like I'm getting treated like a, you know, nurse practitioner or physician assistant by specialists because they just walk all over you, and the hospital supports them most because they make the most money. You know? The surgeons are the ones who really bring in the big bucks, so they get special rules. Like, you know, for the for them, they don't have the thirty day readmission rule because they're such and such specialty or something. You know? And some of it's just, you know, made up too, granted. But, but, yeah, you guys, there you guys made a lot of good points, Speaker 13: though. Like, let's just like, for argument's sake, if it's pulmonology, right, And let's say they have c, you know, COPD or CHF, whatever. Yeah. So so then so then my argument or not argument. My discussion would be like, okay. Cool. So let's do other things. Let let's start aggressive acetylcysteine nebulization and glutathione nebulization and budesonide nebulization. And there's pushback. And, like, how is there pushback when you're literally nebulizing things that at least inhibit, if not, revert Speaker 26: fibrotic damage in the lungs? Like, why wouldn't you start that? Yeah. I've I've never seen They're having chest pain. Hospitals at all. Like, there's a lot of some hospitals don't have to do it, honestly. Some of them don't have to do it. Pediatric clinic. Why wouldn't they do it in the hospital? About ordering vitamin c. No. Vitamin c and vitamin d, they'll give us warning. Oh, that's more, you know, than the recommended dose. Speaker 13: You know? Why You're right. You know? You're right. I get it. All those. Don't. Remember? The idea is not to get you ill. That's that's actually what Yeah. I know. I know. But I'm talk but what he's talking about, they're like, where where where there's, like, you know, these acute things. But where, you know, what what the doctor was talking about is is a thoughtful discussion on on therapies and treatments where they're rebuffing it. And Speaker 26: Yeah. Oh, let's see. This goes into the stewardship thing too. I've been a big critic of that too, and I've done research just, you know, kinda where I'm at too on some of the numbers. And and I've been saying that since the beginning. It's the pharmacists that are kind of controlling what we can order and along with the the chief medical officers in each hospital who's in charge of that. So and, but it's also you know, there's supposed to be, like, kind of a local standard of care, which is you know, there wasn't obviously one in the beginning. I mean, in the beginning, since March 18, we do have a lot of what that means to can you tell like, I don't mean I Can you tell me what local standard of care means I know. I can't when you say that because I'm curious. Really an explanation for what that means. It's just kinda like whatever the hospitals in the area tell you to do or the pharmacists allow type thing or whatever they're told by, you know, the Fauci types or, you know, CDC. And so it yeah. And that's that's the whole point. They tell you that you have to follow, you know, the standard of care and or that's how you don't get sued, basically. And the standard of care, the second FDA approved remdesivir, was remdesivir. So any of us that were you know, if I would have I really didn't have any patients die, like, treating with hydroxy for over, you know, a year and a half in the hospitals. But if somebody would've died and that was getting hydroxy or ivermectin, I could've got sued. I would've been the only one who could've got sued. Everybody killing patients with remedies. You would've been screwed. Yeah. I would and I would've lost my absolutely been screwed. So I was taking a huge risk just every time I treated one of these patients, and that's why even through TelMed, I would, you know, follow-up with these patients, have them text me two, three days later, a week later because I wanna make sure they're all alive and make sure the stuff's working every time. Because I'm like, if anybody Speaker 13: dies and then, you know, family member hears about, oh, I'm not just dies. Goes to the hospital, and they say that you prescribed this, and I treated, like, 4,500 people, more than that. But it was like, if they go to the hospital and they're like, oh, well, you know, Scott Miller prescribed x, y, and z, you're screwed. Talking about in the hospital, working in the hospital. I was one of the you know, I was using, since 03/18/2020 Speaker 26: in Capital Regional Hospital in Tallahassee in the Dam Capitol and cured, you know, first COVID patient with hydroxychloroquine and zinc. And, you know, after actually You did that? Yeah. And, guess what? There's there's a vertical in the Wait. What's your name? That's amazing. Hold on. What's your name? You can see it up there. Licatos, Speaker 13: Jason. Oh, I see. Okay. I see it. Dude, you're Speaker 26: that's freaking amazing. When it started up, I I didn't take it. You know? At first, I heard you didn't say February 2020, and they're like, oh, there's this pandemic that's gonna come. And I'm like, coronavirus. I'm like, that's coronavirus is nothing. You know? It's common cold. Then started looking into it. I'm like, oh, this is a you know, looks like manufactured, you know, bio weapon. You could see all, you know, they deleted so much data too that was out there as far as all these other, like, 80 other coronaviruses they made in the lab. You could just pull up and buy too. So, like, they you could buy all this, all this nanotech bioweapons or, you know, you know, of course, to test for you know, to make some testing kit or something. You know? You need to have the Speaker 6: the sequence environment. Can I can I Yeah? I just wanna interrupt, guys. I I wanna get through some of the people that have their hands up, and we've been going for a while on this. And some of the people that have their hands up might have questions for you guys, and I don't wanna get too far down this path and then their question becomes irrelevant. Okay? So if you could just put let's put a pin in it right there and let me get to a couple people who have their hands up and just just in case it's relevant to this. Okay? So, I wanna go to Susie and then doctor Lori. So Susie's next. If you could take yourself off mute and Speaker 8: Now I'm Susie, but I go by Maga on here. So is that me or is that another I guess so. Maga. Okay. I wasn't sure if my name was, revealed to you guys or not, but, thank you so much for having the space. Gosh, this is wonderful, wonderful conversation. I always learn so much when I'm in these rooms. So I wanted to just briefly follow-up with, what Patriot has to say. I always like to come in after he speaks to kind of, give another angle or to support what he's saying, his allegations about this carb act or whatever it is. As a UT, a chronic UTI sufferer, and I know this space is about COVID related crimes, but I'm just gonna tie in the antibiotic issue, that I think overlaps the COVID treatment, especially the hospitalized patients. But as a UTI sufferer, I can tell you that there are a handful of doctors in the entire world who are willing to treat UTI patients with antibiotics long enough to kill our infection. That, in my opinion, is what causes that's one way at least, that they cause antibiotic resistance. They don't treat long enough. For instance, I was on antibiotics, once I hooked up with my doctor in Louisiana. I had to drive four hours there, four hours back. Once I hooked up with him, and we got the testing in and and he reviewed everything. He prescribed antibiotics and told me you're likely going to need these for three years. So, you know, be prepared. It's not a real easy journey. You'll you'll you'll get yeast infections. You're gonna have to supplement with probiotics and whatnot. But all that to and so he did. He got me to the finish line. It did take three years because I had biofilm. I had embedded infection that was very difficult to treat. I still do get flare ups once in a while, but I'm able to get rid of them quickly now. But all that to say, the women in my UTI Facebook group will tell you, and the doctor tells me himself, women and men fly to him from all over the world because they can't get doctors to to prescribe antibiotics long enough to get them well if they prescribe at all. You know, the UTI tests are so so horrible. They have such a high false, negative rate that, many of the patients don't get treated at all because of the results of their culture, which are false negatives. So what my doctor does is he uses, the PCR DNA amplification method, to determine which bladder pathogens need to be targeted. So anyway, Patriot, thank you for your deep dive on this. And I believe, that this CARB law or act, whatever it is, is responsible for so many urologists failing to treat their patients properly. And what I'd like to know from the doctors in the room, were you all even aware of the CARB act? I don't know why. I'm gonna ask my doctor at our next visit. Why is it you're able to get around this CARB Act restriction? Why are you able to do it and so many other doctors are not? Speaker 13: Or are the doc They weren't they weren't not able to get around it. They just didn't prescribe, and then you need to look at the other co infection things that happen with UTIs, like fungal infections, candida, you know, other fungal infections because the you shouldn't have to take an antibiotic for three year for three months type of thing. Like, the fact that you're able to do it and get rid of it, but but then if you look at gut dysbiosis and Good. And the impact I but it's it's it's not that that they can't get around it. They're afraid to prescribe for that duration of time because they suck. Right. But Speaker 8: but you but but my doctor is able to get his patients over the hump. You just have to prescribe diflucan. You have to tell your patients to, take probiotics and, and you let let them know that it's gonna be a little tricky. But if you want to get rid, you have to remember we're dealing with embedded biofilm Speaker 13: that is this is a normal infection. Well, then that's where they have to give things that actually help break down the biofilm. Every bacteria can even make a biofilm, though. That's kinda rare, Speaker 26: but it shouldn't take any Speaker 13: longer or There's there's Babesia and other co infections that can do that. Right? We know that. But the fact that you were able to get treated and healed from it, but It did not take three years ago. Thing is the probiotic the probiotic aspect of it is super important. Yeah. But I could Why did but but the question is why did it happen in the first place? Well, in my case, probably because I have an immune deficiency. Speaker 8: So I do have to take IGG infusions every month to get my IGG levels up to normal. But my IGA is also low. Speaker 26: And that's not Why? That's your problem right there. Those infusions have Wait. Wait. Why do you why do you need the IGG infusions? Speaker 8: Because I have something called common variable immune deficiency, which doctor Judy Mikovitz tells me is nothing but vaccine injury. So she told me, you know, little did I know that I was a vaxx injured person myself when I joined with the vaxx injured the COVID vaxx injured groups. But I was on a space one night, and I heard her just say, you know, common variable immune deficiency is just vaccine poisoning. And so I nearly dropped my teeth. So I got to talk to her, followed up, and she said, in your case, since you didn't have the COVID vaccines, and you have had many flu shots, that's probably where your cumulative damage happened. And so, you know, that's her guess. She has not examined me. She is not my personal doctor, but I believe every word of what she says. If anybody if there's anyone I'm gonna believe on the face of the earth, it's gonna be her because she's walked the walk and she knows. Speaker 26: Can I interject on that real quick Yes? That she's missing a big point. IG the IgG infusions have spike protein in it. They don't check it for they take it from vaccinated patients. I I have a I have a patient with the same thing too that I've treated for, like, a year, and we've figured out she never got any of the vaccines, but she's, she's definitely got the antibodies to spike protein. Well Never had COVID either. Is is she IVIG or is she subcutaneous? Speaker 8: IVIG. See, I'm subcutaneous Speaker 26: and doctor Mike But it's the same stuff, though. It's the same stuff. You know? It's a harm you know? Well But because It's a immunoglobulin. So Doctor Mike of it says because it's not going into Speaker 8: directly into the blood, into my vein, it's safer. And you're right. I'm I'm terrified. I'm terrified of the spike protein coming through the plasma, but I can't live without it. So I don't have a choice. I would like to have, some kind of blood work to see if I have been, you know, if I have spike protein at this point. But, yeah, we need to push the legislation to have the spike protein tested for blood transfusions or infuse or whatever. But, yeah, it's a concern. Speaker 26: Yeah. You know, I I wrote that down on the the CAUTIs, the the UTIs too because they literally have they have signs in the hospitals on the walls talking about no, you know, none no catheter acquired UTIs basically for five years and stuff like that. So it's like, wow. You guys are which I my point is out for it. It's like, wow. It's like you're they're patting themselves on the bed for supposedly not having these UTIs, but they still happen all the time. It's just, it's crazy, but, you know, no worry about, like, all the COVID deaths and all that just kinda completely ignored. But that's that you know why it is, why those are looked at, because that's one of those Medicare things that they're gonna lose money on if if there's too many hospital acquired infections or if there's MRSA, you know, acquired in the hospital. That's one reason. They don't even want us to test for viruses, like, after somebody's admitted to the hospital on the floor. Like, they try to limit it to the ED because it'll look like they picked up the infection in the hospital, then they'll get a ding and, you know, potentially lose money. I don't really agree with what he's doing with the PCR is because that's how they tested COVID. So you're just amplifying every little, you know, piece of, Speaker 13: you know, viral particle. Well, it depends on it depends on the cycle count. Right? I mean, we have to look at that because I've I've done Yeah. But they don't give us a cycle count. There's no cycle count given on any of these tests. So Well, I'm not talking about COVID. I'm talking about, like, bacterial infections. Right? I've done thousands and thousands of NCF tests Mhmm. For kids where it it was not a determining factor, but something that I use, you know, if it came back, you know, you know, depend again, depending on so many different aspects. Right? Like like, the physical exam, I'm looking at their ear, and there's there's inflammation, etcetera. But we've got you know, like, God gave us an immune system, and I'm like, let's do a swab. So we do a nasal swab, NCF swab, and it comes back. And it's a high cycle count, and we're doing natural therapies. And I talked to a parent, and they're like, oh, they're doing better. I'm like, well, I'm not gonna start them on an antimicrobial therapy because the the things that are supposed to work are working. But what what she's talking about when you're looking at I'm just wondering. Have, like, a, like like a, like, the what what did you say? A common variable immune deficiency? Yeah. And then and then so with something like that. So what are common variable immune deficiencies? It's almost like COVID where it's like like, what what what would it be? It would be like CRP, like c reactive protein, and ESR, and interleukin six, and TNF alpha, and some of the immunoglobulins. Speaker 8: It's like According to doctor Mike of it, let's see if I can explain this. And I've practiced it a lot of times to even Gosh, it's complicated, but I'll make it real simple. I think this is how I can explain it easily. So the plasmacytoid dendritic cells, I can't believe I can say that word, but so they're not communicating, therefore, they cannot make interferon, therefore, the antibodies can't aid. So I have B cell deficiency dysfunction. That's part of my diagnosis. And then, you know, two subclasses, I think, have to also be low. So I've got subclass one and two are abnormal, and then, the the IgA and IgG are below normal. So with infusion Speaker 13: In the most basic way, like, Google vitamin d, like, just because I don't know what your vitamin d levels are, but they should be 60 to 80. Google that. But but but but look at when you're talking about dendritic cells, like so look at, Speaker 8: sweet lord. And, she recommended interferon, bovine bovine protein, which is a product called PAX immune, that is sold on the Internet, which I have. It's a nasal spray, and she says that is the interferon. So I called the shop the other day and I got Doctor. Mikovitz on the phone. I was shocked. And I asked her is the interferon going to flip the switch back on to my immune system? Or is it just, a band aid that I'll have to use for life? And she said she didn't know at this point because, like, they have to figure out which pathways have been damaged from flu shots and, which pathways need to be, you know, Speaker 13: focused on. Well, there's mitochondrial damage also, and there's cytochrome c damage Yeah. That happens, and that's that's where and, again, when I say this, I have no nothing involved with it. That's where I would say look at methylene blue, because of its redox Speaker 8: ability, like, its redox reaction. I just ordered some, and I I just got it today. How about that? Speaker 26: Giddy up. What what was the bacteria that was growing in the urine, though? Did they tell you that? Because, that's one of the biggest problems with UTIs is the doctors. Well, it's a lot of, in the ER, you know, PAs, MPs, they don't really get trained on gram positive, gram negative bacteria and True. Differences in the But, hey. I don't know. To them, but they treat with the wrong antibiotics. Keflex, cephalexin don't work on half the bacteria out there, neither does Cipro, but that's what the ERO gives. No. As in get admitted because it's not gonna work. Hey, doctor Licatos. Speaker 6: We've got tons of people with their hands up right now. So I I do want to I don't wanna go too far down this path Yeah. And get back to the purpose of the spaces because we got, like, lots of people even waiting to requesting to speak. So can I I just wanna go to two more people in case in case it's related because their hands just went up? So I wanna go to, doctor Lohrey, and then, I'm gonna go to Patriot Politics Research. So doctor Lohrey, first, and then yes. Speaker 30: Hi, guys. Thank you so much for having me up here, and thank you for the space. Actually, if it's okay with you, I will yield to, Patriot because I was gonna go in a whole different direction. Okay. Just in case, you know, that they Speaker 6: had something that was related. Okay. So I'll go page two. I'll get back to you. And then doctor Laurie and then Kitty Foreman. Speaker 10: Thank you. Speaker 25: Awesome. Thank you. This will be very fast. Just to to to share some information, I believe last week or last two weeks, a, long term study was released in one of the medical journals. I'll I'll have to post, find the link and post it to this, spaces, x x post. But it says, antibiotics don't have any detrimental effect on the gut microbiome. And I find I find that really amazing that this study is coming out now, especially while we're in this antibiotic stewardship program throughout The US and the world. And then lastly, there are new antibiotics that probably, you guys the physicians might be aware aware of them, but there are gram positive and gram negative new antibiotics that take out these supposed superbugs that the CDC says that we should be all feel so fearful of. And there was also antivirals that the CDC and NIH were well aware of that were highly effective on the gain of function version that they were working on, the 1918 original viral strain. So, I just wanted to share that, and, I'm gonna go back to listener. Thank you so much. Oh, thank you. We appreciate it. We appreciate everything that you Speaker 6: brought. Okay. So let's go back then to doctor Lohrey. And then Speaker 13: So hold on. Say hold on really quick on that. We we know that there are antivirals that would've prevented one point whatever million people from dying. Speaker 6: Right. Speaker 13: Yeah. So yeah. I mean, we know that. It's just that we weren't allowed to say it. So you're absolutely right. Whether it's 1918 or 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, freaking 2024, We knew that. It's just that no one's allowed to say it. But you're right. We have antivirals that would have prevented ninety five, ninety six percent of unnecessary deaths. So you're right. Speaker 26: Yeah. I wanna bring up that stewards the about the stewardship again. You guys were talking about earlier. As far as COVID, though, I don't totally agree with the you know, everything's bacterial because the the virus in itself is it does take about seven days, before your antibodies kick in normally. And then Oh, no. We we we we fix it in the first day or two. Like, when you treat early, it's gone. It's gone. I'm I'm talking about saying people aren't getting antibiotics like they should. Like, that's gonna make a difference with COVID, which they really don't. A lot of doctors were putting people on Banco, like you were saying, and rocephin. That's not gonna do anything for COVID at all. So that was they started doing that later, but just putting them on that Wait. What do you mean by later? I'm saying, like, you know, maybe six, seven months, a year into Speaker 13: the pandemic type thing when people are seeing remdesivir wasn't working and someone's in the ICU, and they come out. About outpatient where I had people sat in the sixties or seventies, and I would listen to their lungs, and it sounded like a cannon had gone off. Yeah. And I was shitting myself. See. And we were trying to figure out why the first antibiotic we used didn't work, and we were doing cultures to try and figure out a culture and sensitivity. Speaker 26: I'll just say that that Doxy does work, though. Speaker 13: Unapologetically, like, in practicing for fifteen years where I know the difference between viral and bacterial and then hearing the lungs, like, these people were were dying. I mean, they're they had cavitations. They had consolidation. Speaker 26: You know? We had to figure out I was gonna say if they're coughing up yeah. You know, if they're actually coughing up mucus, that's kind of the big difference with the viral versus bacterial that we'd see. And if it's yellow or green, because most of people with regular COVID, even they had pneumonia, they're not they can't even cough anything up. It's like a dry cough most of the time. If it becomes bacterial, then, yeah, they're gonna be coughing up a lot of lot of mucus. But the so that's kind of the, distinguishing factor. But, I mean, yeah, antibiotics are better than, you know, in some cases than doing nothing. Obviously, there can be, you know, side effects with that. But, but as far as the stewardship, the other point, part of that is about saving money. That's the biggest point. It's not so much about preventing, you know, this or that, MRSA and, VRE, vancomycin, you know, resistant, enterococcus, and these other ones like ESBL, extended spectrum, beta lactamase, and they're like E. Colis and klebsiellas. They're in UTIs a lot. And those wouldn't be those no antibiotics are gonna work on those, like, besides stuff you can get IV, like meropenem or irtapenem. So, you know, there's rare with those type, that may be what, you know, what you had as far as that long term UTI where, you know, you have to kinda know the exact bacteria that definitely helps. But the stewardship, yeah, they waste a lot of money, though. That's they say it's, you know, about saving money too, and they'll change our medications from IV to oral, like, automatically without asking us. So they have these approval things they can do. They screw things up all the time. I order I could order, insulin at night. They automatically change it till nine in the morning. Not even looking at the sugars 500. I've had I have that happen all the time. So the pharmacist have this leeway. They can just not even tell us, cancel our orders, change it, you know, change it from this or that. You know? So they have certain therapeutic substitutions, of course, they could do. But the last point, the stewardship, I looked up just, example of one hospital, and they spent more on remdesivir in one year than they did on every other antibiotic combined for the year. So if that's about saving money when you're actually, you know, having fourteen percent die from it on a one percent mortality virus, I mean, something doesn't add up, and it doesn't add up the fact insurance companies would be paying that much. I don't know what they, you know, pay. What is supposed to be $3,500 for five days remdesivir. Just like Pax Paxlovid is going up to 1,400 for five days, and, they they just they stole our, business right there. They they gave it to the pharmacist. So now they tell anyone with COVID, you can skip the doctors. Just go to Walgreens, and the pharmacist will give you Paxlovid or Molnupiravir. Of course, you know, only the stuff that big pharma is making a ton of money on. That's it for that. Speaker 6: Alright. Now we can go now let's I forgot. Let's go to to doctor Lohrey and then Kitty Forman. Doctor Lohrey, Kitty Forman. Speaker 30: Alright. Thank you. Yeah. As I mentioned, I hope this is okay, but I was gonna kinda go in a different direction. Yeah. I just wanted to throw something out there, just more for discussion because, it's something I've been, just kinda ruminating on the last couple months and have some concerns about, and I've spoken to some doctors. By the way, I just wanna clarify. I I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a biologist. So but, anyway, I've been kinda ruminating on this and throwing it out there for discussion in other spaces, and I'm getting a lot of mixed, I guess, mixed feedback on the level of concern, that especially the MDs are are having. So, I just wanted to know if anybody had any thoughts or comments that you would be willing to share regarding the IGG four class switch that we're seeing with, mostly after the third injection. And I believe it's just happening with the with the, sorry, the Moderna and the Pfizer vaccines. This is, just with the ones with lipid nanoparticles. So oh, the mRNA vaccines, we could say. Yeah. So I'll just throw that out there. I just wanted to see, first comments or anything. Can you say that again? The IGG what? The IGG four antibody class switch. I don't know if you're familiar with what's going on with that. I am. Speaker 26: I'm saying Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. What is it? Well, kind of, you're saying, like, there's more, you're producing more IGG four as opposed to another antibody type thing? Well, what's happening, Speaker 30: but they found and this is, pretty recent. I think it was I wanna see this. It may not have been the first paper, but it's the first one that was kind of, that got some attention, came out, just this last May, I believe it was. And what they found was that, after the third injection well, they they were seeing a small rise after the second injection. But for some reason, after the third injection, there was a pretty big jump Speaker 26: in the IgG four antibodies that were being produced with the COVID shots. Yeah. And it was They're saying the more the more shots you get, the higher that goes, which can eventually lead to the worse and worse autoimmune reaction that could kill you pretty much. Exactly. And that's the thing. It's we knew from the beginning. But Speaker 30: Yeah. As the I g g four levels are rising, the other antibodies are falling. So it's it's literally like they're switching. So, and and some of these people, they were finding that after the third injection, their I g g four levels were going up to somewhere, like, 50%. Speaker 13: Yeah. And then they're losing you're losing immunity to other viruses and the types of infection and the bacterial infections. Well, it's also affecting p 53 gene. When you lose that p 53 gene activity, that's where you start to see the turbo cancers because your body isn't able to shut off that activation. So it's not even necessarily the levels. It's the the downstream Speaker 26: negative impact on the rest of the immune system. Well, plus there's that s oh, you know, s p 40. Right? So that's actually what's apparently driving the lipid nanoparticles particles into the cells. You know, when they say it's, oh, it's just gonna sit there in your arm and just, you know, absorb. But they know they also knew that it was targeting the spleen is where most of the vaccine goes in the liver. But the spleen is targeting liver is a huge component. That's where you get all of the pro inflammatory cytokines. And when I got I got one shot to to test it, which, I was able to use that to tell people not to get it as far as patients because I'm like, I'm just, you know, this is telling you my experience. Anyway, I'm not, you know, for well, you know, for against per se. But, I mean, I think some you know, there was a little bit maybe benefit in the beginning for, like, the first Hold on. Did you say you're not for or against? Well, I'm I'm saying when I'm in the hospital type, you know, in that circumstance because if you Sure. Flat out start talking about the vaccine, you're gonna be gone the next day. Speaker 13: No. No. No. No. No. No. I was just saying you personally, but, no, I understand you. Plus, some patients will you know, the thing is some patients don't even get it. They're just, Speaker 26: so brainwashed. Like, they can't even fathom, you know, that the vaccines would be bad. So if you tell the wrong thing to the wrong person, they're gonna, you know, make it say something about it to somebody else too. Just like if I tell a patient, hey, which I do all the time. Unfortunately, now ER orders were on best for you right from the jump on anybody with COVID because Listen. I have not helped people because Speaker 13: of what they said. And I was like, if I if I choose to help them, I'm absolutely screwed, and I need to help with, like, Speaker 26: I don't know, 500 other vehicles. You know, they'll be like, oh, this doctor gave me a ivermectin. You know? Why didn't they give me Paxlovid? They're a bad doc. You know, if you don't depending on the patients, you really gotta know the patient before you in a in a sense before you do that because I'll I'll kinda get a sense. I'll ask some of these patients, like, have you heard of what treatment options have you heard of for COVID? Are you aware of this or that? Some haven't even heard of hydroxy or ivermectin at this point and, you know, don't know anything. So if if I go and start telling them, you know Dude, half the country doesn't know. Half the country doesn't freaking know about treatments. My mind is blown every day. Saying is over four years into this I mean, come on, man. Speaker 13: Yeah. No. So I I over the last four days, the shitstorm of things that came in and I would like, the how they even came to find out about me, and I would ask them I would ask the questions like, uh-oh. I'm like, do well, do you know of any, like, therapies for COVID? They're like, what? No. I'm like, oh, lord. And that's why that's why when we do these spaces, we literally give Speaker 6: zero. We don't let any trolls or anything because we've been censored for so long. But I do wanna go to the next person because we've got I wanna get through some of these people, and I know some people have to go. Michelle from Snoot Spray. I'm gonna go to you next and then Kitty Foreman. Speaker 2: Okay. Great. Can you all hear me? Sure can. Okay. Great. Thank you so much again for having these spaces, and I'm thrilled that Cece's back in action. We got lots that we're working on, and, it it's great to have her energy and enthusiasm and passion. And, I wanna just give you a couple updates. One, related to the conversation that's going on right now. I'm sitting here literally going, fungal, check. Viral, check. Bacteria, check. Biosil. Check. Yeast, check. Every single thing everybody's talking about is actually obliterated by chlorine dioxide. Like ivermectin, it's the same story. So I'd love to what we're trying to do is actually get more doctors and nurses aware of chlorine dioxide and all the ways to use it. And so recently, my business partner, Valerie Allager, who's, Howard Allager's daughter, we went to the FLCCC event in Phoenix, with a primary goal to see if we can get those doctors to add chlorine dioxide to the protocols for vaccine injury. And we were, I must say, heartened, thrilled, shocked, amazed at the massive widespread acceptance and acknowledgment that chlorine dioxide is actually something that should be on those protocols. These doctors and nurses are hearing about it. They're using it. They have more questions. They not only knew about chlorine dioxide. They knew about me and Valerie personally, Snut Spray and Frontier Pharmaceutical, and it was incredible. We've already got a whole bunch of doctors to reach out to us to learn more, to, get involved in the products, to understand how to how to work with it. And, oh, also, it is chlorine dioxide does not have a problem with antibiotic resistance because it obliterates all of the pathogens. It there is no it's impossible to create a resistance to, chlorine dioxide. Yeah. You know? Right? So, anyway, what I wanted to tell you was, we talked to Paul Merrick specifically. And it was kind of ironic. We we asked him we asked a couple of people at the registration, who we talked to. We're like, yeah. Well, I wanna understand why, you know, you finally put methylene blue on there. You're putting even meditation. You're putting all these kind of alternative treatments, but you're not talking about chlorine dioxide. What is going on here? And it was kinda funny because a nurse jumped up immediately, said, oh, Paul Merrick read three studies, and he said it doesn't work. And I'm like, well, isn't this ironic? Oh, the irony. I'm like, okay. No problem. We'll talk to him. So, we just sent him an email with a list of about, I don't know, 300 studies that Frontier Pharmaceutical and Alcide did. Alcide was Howard Dowager's first company that, he was really the pioneer in realizing that chlorine dioxide could be harvested or harnessed, I should say, for the human and animal use, to obliterate pathogens. So we just sent him a whole bunch of studies, list of studies that go back to the seventies. And, we we also have sent a note to, Andreas Kalker, who's, basically the guy who's charged up the commissab organizations. They run a 160 different countries. They were treated. 10,000,000 people have been, made aware of chlorine dioxide, how to use it, how to make it, all the different, modalities out there. And we're gonna get ready to hopefully work with, the former feds group to create a, comm USA mainland, entity here in The US so we can really get all of this knowledge and education to The US medical folks who actually are interested, which turns out there's a whole lot of them. So we're really excited about it, and, that's it. And just thank you for all of your support. And, I mean, it's because of you that people are waking up and talking about and asking their doctors, and their doc some doctors are actually researching themselves and coming to the conclusion that holy moly stuff actually does work so awesome. Speaker 26: Thanks. What about side effects though too because you know, there's supposed to be a lot of toxicities with that. I mean, Ivermectin blocks the chloride channels for various parasites that but it doesn't we don't have those same channels. But I mean so that it would work, but, Speaker 2: they have toxicity studies and, like, you know, as far as the levels and In fact in fact, that was that's most of the work that Howard Allager did is to find out, is it toxic, as opposed to, you know, what else does it help in the human body? So there's tons of it is way less toxic than any drug on the market, including ivermectin. In fact, there's it really is not toxic. It's a gas. So it dissipates incredibly quickly. But in the process, obliterates pathogens and actually helps the blood become more oxygenated. So anything that you may see out there is, related to inhalation of the gas at a very, very strong concentrations, which, by the way, happens with any gas that you would inhale at strong concentration. Speaker 6: Awesome. Thank you. I wanna go to I just wanna ask if, I don't know. Mick Meow, are you still there? Conservative continuum? I know you've been waiting for a while if you're still on. Mick or TurboRacket. I think they both dropped before they got to speak. Man, I'm sorry, guys. Alright. We'll go to Kitty, we'll go to Kitty Foreman, and then if they come back on either one of them, we'll go to them. Speaker 31: Hi, everybody. I really enjoyed listening to the doctor's debate everything that's going on. To answer, another gal's question, The only thing you can do is follow the money line. And right now, what's happening is your health insurance companies are owning the providers. And we started this back when I was working at a Blue Cross Blue Shield plan, Get With The Guidelines. So it's very well orchestrated. We have to look back to our institutions that set the guidelines, and that's all bought and paid for by Big Pharma. And then we bow browbeat the providers that we're paying in our networks to follow the guidelines. I don't know if you've ever heard of pay for performance or, you hit the quality metrics. It's all it's all the money. And so Quote, unquote evidence based medicine Right. Is rigged. Evidence based medicines that's complete and utter bullshit. And so, 04/07/2020, I knew something wasn't right. And so what I did was I started reaching out to my network of nurses and doctors and people in the business and said, this this just isn't sounding right. But on 04/07/2020, Burks stood in front of Trump, and Fauci was over in the corner, and she said, we're gonna mark them all as COVID. And that's when I knew we were in for it, that it was all a scam because I kept saying this it's the flu. I had, nurse friends who were, nurses just dropped out of the health care system completely because either be they were being mandated to take the vaccine, or a whole list of reasons, but they don't want anyone who has critical thinking skills in the health care system. Physicians who are tied to the hospital are owned by the carrier in your area. So it's UnitedHealthcare. It's Blue Cross Blue Shield. It's Humana. Who who's ever in your network. And that's where it all stems from. So until the physicians are willing to walk out and work independently, hang their own shingle, you you're you're you're stuck. That's why you can't speak out. But in 2020, nurses were screaming, screaming, trying to get awareness out there, and we could not get doctors to help us. And that's because they're tied that they're you're in debt through medical school. You're you're in debt to, the local place that you're at. I mean, I can't even imagine working in a hospital right now. I I I would flip out because I my mouth is just it's insanity what we're doing. And so the only way we can fix this is to build a parallel health care system outside of what exists today. If you look at your hospital's HR, the their marketing stuff, and you find DEI and your administration is focused on DEI, you don't wanna be there. It's that simple. So we need to rewrite all of our guidelines, and we need to work with nurses and doctors who have critical thinking skills. And we protect as many people as we possibly can, but we gotta do it outside of the system. Speaker 26: Yeah. You're right. I was just saying that in another a group of, you know, doctors, earlier, the same exact thing because, yeah, you're totally totally, you know, right about that. I guess, to your point, the problem is that that, yeah, the insurance controls everything. And the other problem is patients don't wanna pay more. You know they just pay you know $10.20 dollars. It's all it's all gonna go pay though either right. It's all gonna go cash pay so we were encouraging physicians to walk away Speaker 31: So, I started a company right before COVID hit, and it was focused on getting employers off of the BUCAs, the Blue Cross, United, Cigna, Humana, Aetna. Right? Get them off the bookers and get them onto a stupid TPA because they're all using computerized claims adjudication. And, just go go simple, and you can reduce your cost of health care by millions, literally millions. The problem is is everybody's in bed with everybody else. So to get a physician to walk away from the health care system and hang their own shingle, you're gonna get a cash payment. You know, it's I used to make up marketing slits that said, chicken for a checkup doc because that's where we're going. But if we find all of the critical thinking nurses and match them up with critically thinking physicians, we can do this. But you get you know, it's it's gonna be your payment's gonna be by helping people in a very simplistic old school fashioned way. Speaker 26: Now you get around the state, you know because II was already thinking to do this years ago. I mean I've the telephones and things very hard to make much money in but as far as opening up, you know there are small hospitals or clinics where someone could say and just get COVID treatment And some people have done that during COVID. They got they got shut down by the feds for whatever, you know, giving, whatever pain meds or something on a clinic, which I don't know what the whole deal with that if it was legit or not. But, but it's hard with all the regulations too. And that's the other thing. A lot of these hospitals are you can't sue or you're limited how much you can sue because they're owned by the state. Mhmm. You know, for example. So half these public hospitals, you know, have these special rules that the state made that they have, like, sovereign immunity. So, you know, you don't really know that going into there actually. Well, they do have a lot of you typically have to sign their paper saying you'll negotiate, you know, and only get paid up to 200,000 type thing, which you I guess, technically, you don't have to sign, but everybody signs it anyway type thing. So you kinda sign they have everybody signs your rights away when you walk through the door. Right. Well, the other thing is our our licensing boards, Speaker 31: our nursing boards, our medical boards, they're all crap. So I don't care what kind of a license you have if you're a critically thinking clinician you're in. But the other thing is our churches, And that's an avenue where a nurse and a doctor can go into a congregation and have a conversation and manage the health of everybody in there. Nobody needs to know nothing. So you gotta kinda we have to rethink how are we going to take care of as many people as we possibly can with no reliance on the current system. Speaker 1: Well, that's gonna be a good trick, isn't it? Mhmm. But but we've gotta start with the guidelines. Speaker 31: And I'm with whoever was talking about the guidelines that were set in the seventies and eighties when it was actually ethical. That was the peak of of the medical industry. You know? That was awesome time. But in the eighties and early nineties is when we started seeing the downfall. That was the very beginning. Speaker 1: And the reason did all that with the HMOs. Speaker 31: Yeah. And and the reason why is because they took what the nurse did at the bedside, and they splintered it. Because we have a nursing shortage. There's never been a nursing shortage. It says that you can't treat nurses, really good nurses, like shit. You can only treat them like shit for about ten years, and then they get wise and they leave. So, you know, you've gotta We're all there. Yeah. And now they're putting in brand new grads who are learning how to follow the guidelines and have zero critical thinking skills into the your ICUs. Good luck. Speaker 1: We're gonna need it. You're gonna need it. And Speaker 31: the other thing is pay attention to the market. It it, what is up with all the traveling RN jobs Speaker 1: seriously? And that's one of our commonalities is, traveling nurses or FEMA nurses or, you know, these kinds of temp positions. Speaker 31: It's it's insanity. It's so for just to let you help you understand, have you also seen in your local area these little surgical centers or, DaVita does renal stuff. The BioLives are owned by a Japanese global pharmaceutical company. You have to look at the financial component of it and dig deep. I would say that the COVID tests were tainted. I had nurses working in public health that were saying something isn't right. I go into VAERS, and the VAERS data says this, but this is what's happening in our county. You know? And we knew back in April 2020 that they were caught shots, and we were trying to jump up and down and scream, don't get the vaccine. So it's, I still think we can do it. I think we could take care of people holistically, naturally, and be ready for whatever we can provide. And then but we're we're gonna need to map out some guidelines of, okay. This is what's being presented. This is how we care for it. Speaker 1: I totally agree. And if if you wanna help, help write those guidelines and help, form the committees that that put this material forward, we would love to have you on our team. If you go to Doctor Bahaacharya, Speaker 31: are you familiar with him? Mhmm. And the great, Barrington declaration. I was connected with him on LinkedIn, and we were being censored. So he remembers me from the LinkedIn days, and both of us were getting censored and kicked off. And then I found him on the x, platform and reconnected with him. And I've been saying this to him since 2020. We need to rewrite our guidelines. We need to rewrite our guidelines. We've got to pull together and get those pounded out. Speaker 1: Yeah. I totally agree. Speaker 26: Yeah. The problem is, with a lot of these, say, like, hospital bylaws and all that, nobody follows them, but they they regulate themselves like the government does. So nobody's gonna enforce anything on them. So that's kinda where we're stuck. You can write whatever guidelines for, you know, whatever. And as far as COVID treatment guidelines, there weren't obviously, they they actually did have some in the beginning pretty early on that include the hydroxychloroquine Speaker 31: from April 2020, then they switched it. Well, they, we were sneaking doctors into hospitals and, and setting them up with ivermectin and vitamin d and zinc and the whole, they had a little kit and they walked in to go see their patient and they'd say, take this. Don't take that. Speaker 26: How'd they get in to see the patients? Did you see the doctor? They Yeah. They had they got doctors to Speaker 31: my girlfriend, opened up a home health or an advocate agency in Texas. So she was sending doctors into the Texas hospitals. Speaker 1: Wow. Cheryl, did you have a question? Speaker 32: Yeah. I just, I just wanted to touch on on what she was talking about. You know? It's not just, you know, with the doctors, their hands are tied. I mean, like like you said, you know, they probably have loans that are through the roof that they have to pay back, and their hands are tied. And and that that isn't even part of the problem. The problem is is that the government and what their agenda is and this depopulation, they they're getting us one way or another. I mean, they're they've killed our loved ones in the hospital, because, you know, Fauci changed it with the CDC for the protocol for them to give them remdesivir. And, oh, yeah. But then when they get an infection, you know, the remdesivir is shutting down their kidneys. Well, let's give them vancomycin, and that's gonna shut down their kidneys even more, which is gonna take them out completely, and then the hospitals are gonna get their kickbacks. It it it was that. And then okay. Well, if people don't go to the hospital and they don't get admitted and we don't kill them with this protocol, if they do opt to get the vaccine, they're still gonna then die anyway, whether it be from myocarditis, an immediate heart attack, or three to five years later, they start getting symptoms and having blood clots and all these other health issues. You know? Where where do you go to the top to stop all of this madness that that's happening? And then this new disease x that's supposed to be coming in May that's gonna wipe out you know, they're saying sixty to seventy percent of the population. I mean, what kind of freaking world are we living in, for god's sakes? Well, we're living in the Speaker 31: not we're living we're facing evil right in the face. That I mean, so it's it's, how I ended up with necrotizing fasciitis. Somebody explained that to me. I'm I'm working at home. I mean, nothing is explainable anymore. So Speaker 26: Usually, that comes from being in the way of the water, like, you know, in the ocean or No. Lake. You get a you have a cut on. You know? Yeah. No. There's no explanation for it. Speaker 31: They had me on a really superb. But Yeah. So, I mean, they dumped antibiotic. But, anyway, that's another story. The the point is but the point but the point is is that we have to figure out how to do this locally and to protect his my husband, they say he's got diabetes. So let me tell you this one story, and then I'll shut up. Way back when, I don't know if you remember that the they wanted the a one c at, what, seven point something. I can't remember what it's so many years ago. Speaker 19: And then 7.9. Speaker 31: Thank you. And then all of a sudden, we're changing these guidelines. We have to get your a one c down to six. Well, why do you think they did that? So you had a bigger pool of diabetics taking metformin, taking gliboside, whatever, but now you've got a lot more diabetics to treat. So the whole and and I used to be a cardiac nurse. We wanted to put statins in the water. We should put statins in the water. It'll cure everything. So everything that that I was taught my whole time as an working adult has been a lie. It's been a lie. So we need to start over and start protecting as many people as possible. Speaker 32: And I was gonna say, you know, I I have my my sister-in-law died from turbocancer from the vaccines, and my husband died in the hospital from CDC protocol. And I've been talking to a lot of people, and I tell them, you know, if you get sick, don't go to the hospital. Get ahold of my freedoctor.com because that's what I did. When I got COVID, my daughter wanted me to go to the hospital, and this was after my husband was murdered. And I said, no. I'm not going. So I got ahold of my freedoctor.com, and I got medication. And thank god I'm alive today. But, you know, one of the things that I had noticed that I had done when I I thought I had COVID, I took a COVID test, but I didn't use I didn't use their Q tip. I used just a regular ear Q tip swab to swab my nasal passages, because I just didn't trust the the the test. Just you know? It's just not trusting anything anymore. You know? You have to have faith and trust in God, and that's the way we gotta go. But you're right. We have to save as many people as possible, whether it be vaccine injured or vaccine death or hospital protocol. We have to keep getting this message out to people. I don't care if they think I'm crazy. I'm gonna keep talking to whoever's gonna listen. Have a good night. Speaker 26: That was a good point with the, as far as the nurses and the travel nurses, but I was actually I was working as a, travel hospitalist, actually. That's I I was at, like, what, six different hospitals initially during COVID, but I heard of all the nurses from, Broward County and, like, Fort Lauderdale area. They got, you know, got fake nursing, degrees from some fake school there, and they were working all these hospitals in Florida for, like, a couple years during COVID, which I don't know how the hospitals would, like, let them through. Like, that it's crazy because of all the credentialing stuff, paperwork, like, we have to do, which is insane. But, of course, when they got caught, all the you know, they went to court, they got a slap on the wrist. Like, they their punishment was to give up their fake nursing license. Yeah. And that's that's the reason why we have to give our firstborn. Speaker 31: You wouldn't believe what it's like to get try to get hired now. It's it's Yeah. Unbelievable. Speaker 26: And it's because they can get people from out of the country too. That's I got replaced by Indian doctors on j one visas. They just pull them in over and Yep. Yep. They're used to seeing a 100 patients a day. So, like, they literally told me, like, I'll do whatever they want. I don't care. Like, I'm making a lot more money. I'm seeing, like, half of the patients or something. So they're like, I'm I'm not gonna rock the boat. Are you kidding me? Yep. Speaker 31: It's really, really sad. Speaker 26: Oh, another issue too that's come up. Since Obamacare it was part of Obamacare, but they wanted to have these small tertiary centers where they'd be run by, like, only, you know, nurse practitioners or PAs where there wouldn't have to be a doctor there to kinda supposedly cheapen, you know, the cost and everything. In reality, that just makes everything a lot more expensive because just like these convenient cares and urgent cares, a lot of them, half the time, you go in there and they just send people right to the ER when especially when it's the mid levels, the PAs and the NPs, you know, they'll oh, you got chest pain and, you know, they coulda got, you know, whatever. They could have, like, a muscle spasm and it twitch for a second. You know? Most people, you know, medical doctors, whatever, would say, yeah. That's probably not heart related. You know? But they'll hear chest pain, and it's just, like, automatically, oh, they gotta go to the hospital. You gotta go to the hospital, get EKG. Then once they get there, you gotta be admitted. And then we're, like, we're told, you know, we're supposed to, you know, like I said, as far as being the admitting doctor, we're the ones who, you know, are supposed to decide if they need to be admitted or not based on what the ER doc tells us or if they, oh, we talk to the pulmonologist and they want them admitted, you know, because they wanna do a bronchoscopy on them tomorrow and stuff like that, then we admit them or someone fractured their hip. We admit that someone's got a brain bleed. We admit that so I pretty much admit any type of case in the hospital is like the primary, you know, in the hospital, then it's up to us to typically consult people after that. So sometimes the ER, if it's emergent and they need to know what to do, they consult that specialist, like, say they're, you know, lung collapsed or, you know, actually, they usually can handle that part of it, but maybe it's a complicated one. They gotta call the radiologist to do a procedure. And then they're okay. Then they call us and say, we need to admit the patient. If it was in the past, we could say, you know, somebody came in with a UTI and or hey their cultures came back from two days ago when they're here and it's you know such and such e coli sensitive to this and tell you know half the time we'll tell you what the sensitivity is and it's easy to write that antibiotic. A lot of times they'll make patients come back to the hospital because, oh, we sent you we gave you the wrong antibiotic. It's not sensitive to that. Come back to the hospital. Then they say they gotta be admitted. You know? And I don't know what their whole incentives. I'm not a ER doc, but I'm sure there's some bonuses involved in getting this high admission rate. But, you know, and it's all dependent when they talk about hospitals during COVID at capacity. Most of that was BS. I mean, especially from the beginning, you know, they were advertising a 100 new COVID patients a day in, the Tallahassee Memorial Hospital, and they had one COVID patient, like, the whole time, you know, for a month straight, and they were rejecting COVID patients. We took everyone, but the newspapers, they're, you know, cahoots. So and the media and the the TV and all that, and they're just saying, oh my god. The hospital's seeing all these COVID patients completely, you know, false and wrong. But And So it's like And that was not isolated. That was happening Speaker 1: all over the country where certain doctors from some hospitals were going on TV and were claiming that they had this tremendous overflow of COVID patients. Speaker 26: And then they'd come back to their hospital, and they'd be the butt of all the jokes because their coworkers know that wasn't true. Right. And we want to talk to the actually without their approval as a doctor, they would fire us if we talk to the media. Mhmm. So that's that was, like, told to us too. So when I had that first COVID patient that was actually, you know, after two doses was, like, I'm ready to go home of hydroxychloroquine that was. And I felt I even called her at home to make sure she, like, was fully through it, you know, you know, a few days later because I'm like, I'm gonna make, you know, make sure she didn't go home and die or something or I have to go back to the hospital type thing. But, you know, the media wrote the article, oh, the first three patients in the county. The other, actually, it was a husband and wife that came from, Alabama. You know, Alabama or yeah. Georgia, Alabama. One of the two. Georgia, I think. From a church, they got it. So they they happen to come back to Tallahassee. The husband didn't get admitted, but I had the wife. The other patient who was twenty years younger that was 38 in the other hospital died, like, that same night from COVID. At that time, it took two days to get a COVID test back, so we, you know, wouldn't even know for sure if they they had it or not. But point being, like, there was there was really no interest in, like, whether the pay you know, on our end that the pay the patient went home and is alive and, you know, good. There wasn't any interest like, oh, you know, was there any treatments used or anything like that? So it was just, like, all about reporting the numbers and, of course, the media, you know, the number of deaths. So the the death ticker was crazy. I mean, just to have that on the TV every day just to see, oh, they're we're up to six million worldwide now. It's like, are you kidding me? That was that's just insane. You know? They're still they're still trying to use that scare tactic with all these other, quote, and to quote, you know, disease x and all that, which could actually just mean them, you know, putting the power out or something. I mean, it could be whatever they wanna do, frankly. You know? I'm gonna jump in here because I have to leave. But, Speaker 31: one of the best things that doctors could do is learn how to talk to the employers in your local vicinity. And if you learned how to talk to the employers, there's your base pay. And I would be more than happy to teach you how to do it. But Obamacare was the beginning of it was the most corrupt, horrible thing that ever happened because what it did was it gave the insurance company the power to get rid of anybody who's gonna stand in the way of just paying the claim. And they got rid of all the critical thinking, registered nurses, and it's and they consolidated. And so it's because the whole thing is to push us into a universal health care system. Right. And they put in automated automated solutions to just let it through. Right. And they just paid paid paid claim paid claim. So if the doctors want to really do this, then I would start out with this your smaller employers and have them pay you directly, cash paid doctor. I'll be here every and then I would hire a really good registered nurse to stay there. Yep. And then I would take care of their population, their spouses, their children, their grandparents, whatever. Speaker 6: And that's how I would start. If you're not if you're not paying your doctor yourself, they working for you. Yeah. Speaker 7: So, regarding Yeah. Yeah. Regarding Obamacare, I heard once that, somebody said that, Washington DC will make decision how to, how to, you know, like, give medicines and, you know, all the stuff need to, you know, just use a remote diagnosis tool. They, upload all the information to Washington DC and then make decision how to cure the patient. Is that true? Absolutely. Speaker 31: It the the emergent of the the emergence of the electronic health record. How many people love the electronic health record? Yeah. I actually Speaker 7: yeah. Actually, I wanna say this. I I heard this, many years ago. And one day, I was, you know, learning about the chat GPT. I never used that myself, but I was thinking about chat GPT. All of a sudden, it's come. It's down down to me that, is that possible that they would just fire the doctors, fire the nurses, and just use a chat GPT to, to do the tyclosis and the Right. They're already Speaker 6: doing it. They're already doing it. Generative AI. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's been in place Speaker 7: in Speaker 6: Yeah. Hospitals and insurance companies for, Speaker 7: I don't know, two years. I I actually have this thought at least, three to four years ago. I mean Yeah. Yeah. But any but, anyway, Speaker 6: since you guys are doctors and nurses, I have a couple questions. Do you guys know Hold on. Before you go there, can we go to Mick Meow? And then you're you're right after her, and then you can ask the doctors questions. Speaker 11: Sure. Yeah. Speaker 6: So, Mick, I wanna go to you next because you've been waiting for a while, and then we'll and then we'll go to, loan traveler so he can ask his questions. Speaker 21: Absolutely. Well, first of all, thank you all for, letting me come on this space and talk to you. I am very grateful to be here. I am a nurse. Twenty eight years, I practiced. I did everything from oncology to critical care, and then, phase one clinical trials. I I, Kitty Foreman, I I wanna party with you. I I'd like to talk to you more because 100%, I started nursing back in the late eighties, early nineties. I'm gonna date myself here. Nobody guessed my age. And so, one of the things that I saw, with the entrance of Obamacare was that suddenly we had for every one RN, we had five billers and, you know, three bureaucrats in the, executive office that were making decisions and passing down and more paperwork that we had to fill out. Suddenly, we started asking people about their sexual preferences, and that was way before even all of this that has come in now. Now it's everybody gets asked. In fact, my 89 year old father-in-law the other day got asked what his sexual preference was. He was like, I'm sorry. What? Yeah. I'm 89. I don't have a sexual preference. And so, you know, it it it's very crazy what I saw happening in health care. DEI absolutely was, one of the biggest, egregious, rips through health care. In what world is it that you are going to ask the person, should I call you he, she, z, q? I'm sorry. I I am here to treat you. I think you're more concerned about the pain that you're having. I think you're more concerned that the fact that you can't breathe. I think you're more concerned with the fact that you're sick. I think you're more concerned about the fact that they're not allowing your loved one to come in the hospital when you're at the sickest point of your life and taking away your advocacy, and you want me to ask them if they prefer to be called z zoo poo coo poo? I I don't get it. It pisses me off and excuse me. I'm sorry, but it does. So I I saw a lot of things that changed in health care over the years, and one of the biggest things was the entrance of DEI and the taking away absolutely of the autonomy of the nurse and dumbing it down to one of these where you walk in the door and all you do is follow an order. All you do is look and say, okay. Now tell me what I need to do next. No. That's not what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to think through the process. You're supposed to assess the situation. You're supposed to at least understand what is going on with that patient. You're supposed to call the doctor when something is wrong. And if that doctor doesn't listen to you, then you go up the line, my friend, and you and that's what is hacking me off. So right now, what I what I'm, looking at is, activism. And I hate that word, but I'm thinking trying to think of a better word. Intentional action comes to mind. But that is what I think we need. I think as health care workers, absolutely, Scott. They have ripped the trust. We our health care system is for forgive my language. I know it's recorded for shit. It's for shit. They have turned us into a bunch of feckless, hapless, little half wits running around, minding the orders of the administrative regime for what? For money? Give me a break. No. We stand up. We speak out. We get involved because when disease x comes, we need to link arms together, and we need to be ready because it's coming quick. It's yeah. 2020 yeah. Right on. I'm giving it the the raise the red flag over here because it's been since 2020 or 2019 that COVID came in, and we are still chasing tail on this. We're still trying to argue about whether it was, you know, a lab leak or, you know, I come on. We should have had these answers. This is intentional. Speaker 6: And and the all the people in this fight, like, a lot of the people in this fight, not a lot, but some of the people in this fight, they wanna go to war with other people in the fight over stupid little differences that they disagree with on a, they don't like this tactic or that tactic, but you need all the tactics. You need all the people. You know, I don't agree 1000000% with with anyone, but I I'm always learning about new people and, you know, I'm you know, we gotta put the the small differences aside as you can hear as people can hear even on here. You know, doctors have different ideas. Nurses have different ideas. We need all those ideas. We we Yeah. We I mean, that's that's what helps the iron sharpens iron. Right? You know, you don't have to be free with a 100% of what another group is doing, but at least if you align with them 80%, you know, go ahead. I mean, work with it. We need a army for heaven's sakes. Amen. Amen. We need to come together. Speaker 21: The you know, if if somebody doesn't like what I'm doing or what I'm saying, then come to me and let's talk about it. But for goodness sakes. Yeah. And you won't always agree. Right? You won't always agree. Exactly. So we had our, medical freedom forum last weekend. Gail, you were there. Andy was there. Scott was there. Doctor Gaffanti, Sue Roberson. I mean, you know, and and I think it really, for me, it was, and I think for Sue as well, I think for the majority of the people there, it was a great jumping off point. It was a great starting point. And what I mean by that is now we've got legislation that we're backing. We are gonna have house and senate hearings. I'm actually going in, tomorrow to talk to our house sponsor. We are working with the, Veers Law Group, so that we can work for investigations and prosecutions. And I actually connected Rachel and, another group. They are called the, the, I'm gonna say this wrong, Carice project, but this gentleman is working across, Canada and The US, and they are taking it from the petitions for the redress of grievances. So, I mean, we are gonna go at it from every single angle, and and we're not gonna stop. We're gonna keep going. We're gonna go to other I I I'm personally gonna go wherever and whenever I need to go, so that we can start exposing, talking to people because we it is it is time. It is time to to have boots on the ground. It's time to get off the couch. It's time to get up and let's rock and let's make some noise because this is the year this is the year that they will either try and take our sovereignty for health away, and they will try and bend us back and and put disease x in and instill more fear, or we're gonna rise up and say, oh, hell no, honey. Here we come. Excuse my language. Forgive me. I know you're you're probably sub stack people are gonna be like, you know, Gail, don't ever have her on again. No. We see her all the time. But but that's it. This is the year. And and I have talked to several different people, general Flynn, you know, Clay Clark. I've been talking to multiple different people, and they all say the same thing. We we either have to make it or break it this year. So, so I'm with you all 100%. I hope that anybody who is in Oklahoma or, the surrounding states, that we can all join together because united we stand, divided we fall. And and I see us all standing right here right now. Okay. So God bless you all. I love you all. I'm with you 100%. And, and we're gonna be going to CPAC this next week. So, we're gonna be seeing if we can make some noise at CPAC. I'm gonna be engaging with people there to see if I can get, some medical freedom, moved forward in that, Speaker 26: area. So if you're going to CPAC, let me know. Let's party. Party in Washington, DC. I tried that already at CPAC to try to get a hold of the census. It just two years ago, it didn't work. Okay. I kinda gave up on that and all these media people and, the conservative media didn't really care about COVID even back then. They're kinda like COVID's done. Who cares? You know? And all the I was like, no. It's not. They're gonna But, some someone needs to, try to bring up defunding the NIH and these, you know, CDC. They don't do anything for us. They Yeah. These PhDs just play around and experiment with bioweapons and drugs that nobody's asking for. We're not The doctors aren't asking for HPV vaccines and all this crap they're making. They just go ahead and do it Yeah. And shove it down over the throat. Nobody needs the stuff they're doing. No. I agree. You know, all Hepatitis b in any of this. Vaccines? What? What? Why are we giving hepatitis b vaccines to a baby when it's brand newborn? I'm sorry. What? No. I agree. I totally agree with you. That's why we, I mean, that's why we need Speaker 6: people we need to bury them in these stories. If even half of the people who were killed by the protocol and half of the people who were shot, injured, or or died from the shot stood up and told their stories, we can present that. We can say, you know, look. It didn't just happen to 50 people or a thousand people. It happened to 500,000 people, 200,000 people, whatever it takes to bury these legislators. They know it's happening, but they don't care because the, they haven't gotten to the point where they care more about looking like they're participating in a holocaust than, the dollars that they get from big pharma. So we need to make it so, apparent to them and bury them in these stories. Bury them in these stories. Speaker 21: Absolutely. Speaker 26: But we're working on trans kids thing too, FYI. That's another big topic that's coming up that they're, they're banning doctors off off x if you, mention, you know, anything bad about, doing the trans surgeries, by the way. So that's another censorship that included in somebody else who's being bombarded with his doctor. And and that's an oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm just gonna say this one last thing. That's another thing that they are tying into this. Right? The Obamacare brought this as Speaker 21: well. They brought in the comprehensive sexual education. That's when SEL and all of that came into our education system, and it made a huge impact. And that's why now we're having to fight back all of this in our schools. With that, I will shut up, and I, if you all you know I never shut up. But, if you all have any, thing that, you're interested on coming on my show and talking about, please let me know. DM me. I'm open. Speaker 6: Okay. Alright. With that, I'll show you something. Let okay. Loan traveler has been so patient. Go ahead. Okay. I my patient is running out, actually. I'm sorry. Speaker 11: Anyway, Speaker 7: I I have a couple question for, one one simple question first, and then I have follow-up. I just wanna ask, do you guys heard of, the event two zero one? And, also, have you heard about, doctor Tang Levy and also doctor Brian Artis? Speaker 6: Yes. Brian doctor Brian Artis. We work quite closely with doctor Brian Artis. Speaker 7: What was your name? Doctor Tan Evey? Speaker 6: Anyone anyone that name doesn't ring a bell for me. Yes. Even 02/2001? Speaker 14: Yeah. I've heard of them. Yes. Even 201? Speaker 22: Absolutely. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Speaker 7: Actually, I I load the event two zero one, on January, twenty third twenty twenty. I I was the first one come out to tell people that, the virus does not exist. I mean, COVID virus does not exist. I told people about the Wuhan app, and also EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak. So how did they, push the whole thing? That's the reason why, I know that the COVID vax COVID, virus is totally, lie just like HIV. It's also lie. So, anyway, you guys are doctors, so I'm not a doctor. I'm not a nurse. But, I want people to understand that, they need to know the truth about the whole thing. You know, I I follow the SARS, h one n one, all that, doctor Tan Levy, that he had a story, you know, before two some I I forgot exactly the the year, that, in Australia, one of the person that had, h one zero one and almost, died. And, the family, forced, hospital to use the vaccine or the used, vitamin c. So the that patient came back one month later, totally, recover. So I'm just wondering, you know, how many doctors and nurses follow all these so called conspiracy theories theories? And, do you guys want to go deep enough to find out why they planned this whole thing? They planned it, and also they push all the agendas onto all of us, not just the hospital, but also the people. So how much actually people want to stop all this nonsense and say, okay. We need all the truth, not just half truth. You know, the all the people that in front on TV, they all talk about how dangerous the vaccine is, but nobody ask one most important question. That is, is the virus real? If we lose answer for this, we don't need to wake anybody up. Why do you think it's not real? Because, Speaker 26: because there's low virus. It's just that simple. Just like HIV. Yeah. You can pull up the data. I mean, there's this I mean, HIV came from the semi immuno virus. I mean, you could go I mean, they can pull it out of these animals. So, I mean, it's sequence it. I mean, it's it just I mean, we can't see it, but it exists. I mean, you know, I don't know what to tell you. Oh, okay. Is that is that a human transmit transmit you know, can that trans I'm talking about looking at something on the microscope. I mean, if I look at the microscope, I see bacteria moving around. I know it's there. I'm not gonna say it doesn't exist. Speaker 7: Yeah. I'm saying it might Then let me ask you one simple question. Do you know Magic Johnson? Yeah. What about him? Okay. He had HIV for thirty years, and he's doing perfect fun. So what happened to him? Are. Uh-huh. And most people are too. Hydroxychloroquine Speaker 26: works on HIV too. There's a ton of meds to do. Oh, well It's not a hard treat. It's not hard to treat. I mean, most people that died of HIV in the beginning, it was from PCP pneumonia. Pneumococcus pneumonia. That's what they died. And Fauci limited the treatment for that too, which was Bactrim, and he didn't allow anybody to get Bactrim back in the eighties, and that's why all these people died of HIV. It wasn't because of HIV. It was because of secondary pneumonia. And now Bactrim is the treatment. You know, they take prophylactically, you know, to prevent, the PCP type pneumonia or you take, azithromycin also to prevent other types of infections with it. And they do find, you know, that's one of the big parts of it. If people would've got antibiotics, a lot more people would survive, but it's the same thing. You have Nazis running the health agencies that want people to die. To them, it's just a numbers game. How many people are they killing? And from what? You know, I think it is. They monitor the most common things that they create, which is high blood pressure, diabetes with all the crap that, you know, is out there in the food too. I mean, there's, like, two grams of salt and, like, you know, one one thing you get in a TV dinner or some shit like that. You know? They they put way too much of everything in there, too much sugar, you know, the higher fructose corn syrups. Me, they're monitoring all the stuff they create and then hypothyroidism. I mean, they've tested, you know, putting radiation in hospitals back in the day to see what would happen to people, and the hospitals complied with the government. So, I mean, they've been retest Speaker 7: all the time. My my point my point is that HIV does not kill people because it does not exist. AZT is killing people. Right? So, I I mean, AZT has the same stuff like, like, a COVID symptom. It's the same thing. Well and also spike protein. It's basically a slick venom. Doctor Ardis was talking about that and, how how do you, reverse some of the lung COVID and also COVID symptom. Just basically simply use the the nicotine strip. So, yeah, we can talk about all this, but when you connect all these things together, there's local there's no HIV Speaker 26: why niktin why do you think niktin works? Because it blocks, the binding of COVID to the receptor yeast receptors in the lung just like, actually, cannabis does too, THC and CBD. Exactly. It's taboo. You're not allowed to talk about that. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Vaccines. Yeah. But that's that's what I'm trying to say. There's so many sense. Because it's I mean, if you're sick and you take CBD and you're better and you're not coughing anymore, I mean, you're gonna I I don't know why you'd pretend like you don't you're not sick with anything. You just imagine it. You know? So if you're getting like, you you're sick with something, coughing, all this stuff, can't breathe, and you take hydroxychloroquine ivermectin, you're better in two days, I mean, you should kind of assume you had something, you know, whatever you wanna think it is. I mean, a virus is like a parasite. It's just a self replicating thing. I mean, they're producing all these different types of viruses. You could say, do they exist in nature naturally, or are we creating them all? Oh, okay. Let let me let me let me ask, let me ask you one thing about COVID. Okay? Speaker 7: I went to a party, to my friend's in my friend's house. And, when I came home, I told my wife I got something. I know what I got what I get because all those people took three vaccines, so I know the the the spike protein, the shitting. So I told my wife, I got something. And, after two hours, I was very sick. So I take, my, you know, homemade liposoma vitamin c. I take a big bottle. For my first question is, how can virus work that fast? I'm pretty sure that against the textbook you guys study in the in the college, I'm pretty sure about that because they take at least Oh, I mean, that's that's the whole thing. They taught us what's they taught us lies, basically. They Exactly. I don't know. Right? Exactly. They taught us that there's no no antibiotics that work for any viruses is what they taught us. Exactly. Speaker 26: Classes were pharmacists, actually. So we're getting taught by pharmacists in med school, and it goes to show you they really, you know, don't know things as good as they think because they don't see the actual results of the treatments. They don't see, does this side effect actually happen or not? What's QT prolongation? Do they know EKGs that well to even know if somebody gets hydroxy, if, you know, how much the QT is gonna prolong on the EKG, if that's even relevant, which I have to tell the pharmacist, no. It's not relevant. You know, it increases at five milliseconds on a scale, you know, four hundred and fifty milliseconds is normal. It has to go up to 600. So, you know, I you'd have to have, like, 10 of these different drugs that prolong QT for it to be even relevant, but they don't know that. They'll block treatments just because of that, and they they can override us, basically, and, you know, with the hospital's permission. But to change that, you have to get in each, you know, these different, you know, committees in the hospital and get on this one and that one, which I work nice. I'm actually working right now. So I can't do I can't get on those daytime committees. But each place is different. So you leave one place, and it's gonna be the same in another place because it's kind of a top down, you know, approach from NIH or CDC, whoever is kinda directing these people. I don't know. But it's Well well, yeah. Yes. Thank you so much for prune proving my point. Speaker 7: And also, that's the reason why people like me don't go to hospital anymore. I actually talked to one of the the people following me. That person actually pulled her family member out of hospital during those times because I told her that hospital is killing people. So take your family member out. Just take high dose vaccine oh, high dose vitamin c. So I took a big bottle of vitamin c that evening, and then I went to sleep. I slept for twenty hours. And after twenty hours, I'm perfectly fine. I'm coming back, no problem at all. I just have some cough, which I take some Speaker 26: That's because our immune system knocks out most of these viruses to begin with. And most there's some people already have there's t, t cell, like, immunity to, you know, some of these coronaviruses. There there's, like, coronavirus o c forty three is another common one. There's, like, four or five other ones that we test for, but there can be overlap too with that o c forty three, this old virus that still circulates that could pop up as, you know, COVID basically also on a PCR test because we don't really know well, you know, it depends how many cycles they run. They specifically leave the cycle number blank when we get the COVID test back too conveniently. So it's like, oh, that's that's nice. So they tell you, yeah. If it's more than 35 cycles, it could be a false positive. Oh. They don't tell you. They just want you to assume everything's positive. So it's really a built in kinda scam as far as COVID, but I'll still say if you have a heart attack or stroke, I mean, you're still best bet is to go to the hospital. If you're sick with, you know, a virus or respiratory infection, probably not. You know? Yeah. So Just, but certain things you need the hospital for, you can't get get around. You know, if you need surgery for your appendix and you're gonna die, if you need, you know, cancer taken out, you know, you're gonna still have to use the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. No. You know, talking about the the PCR test, the do you know doctor Carey Mullis? Speaker 6: Yes. Speaker 26: Yeah. I mean I mean, he's the one actually talk about PCR doesn't shouldn't be used to to test the virus, you know, include HIV virus. And I'm pretty sure he was killed. You know? So but most of people don't know. Even even doctors don't know. Symptoms that they match up. That's the thing. But doctors are just skipping that because they're being told, oh, well, yeah, they're COVID positive, so they they have it. But a lot you could be COVID positive and have no symptoms or, you know, or whatever. And it's or a false positive test too. There's still there's a lot of false negatives with these tests also. But, you know, interesting thing with the test, you know, they sent a lot of these tests back to the labs and to China with our DNA on it, basically. So when they swabbed it COVID is RNA virus too. So the and the media reported this. Oh, they're saying, you know, they're gonna look and try to find how they can, you know, make the next vaccine. And, oh, don't worry. It's just, you know, it's a virus DNA, not not your DNA. And it's like the virus has no DNA. It's a RNA virus. The only DNA they're sending is ours, whoever they're sampling. So, I mean, imagine that. That was during Trump's administration. That's why I'm like, you know, it's like it's like different presidents. It's still the same people are pulling strings and just doing crazy stuff that, you know, nobody even notices. I guess the same agencies. It's still the same. Yeah. These agencies. Yeah. That's why I said they need to be defunded because it's like they're not doing anything good, really. We don't get any money to any studies on this stuff. Like, they're get dumping the money to China. Yeah. You know, we can't study hydroxychloroquine for COVID. We're not allowed. They're gonna deny that. They'll give the money to China. Yep. That's big wire weapons. That's why we need a Speaker 6: we need a parallel system when it comes to research as well. Hey. I don't know if there's any other questions that you have, but I do wanna get to some other people that have been waiting. So, Speaker 7: I just want to see what I'm what I'm a saying. You know? One question probably. I just, does any, do anybody love, doctor, Speaker 6: David, David Martin? Yes. We're working with him. Okay. Great. Great. He's a good guy. Yeah. Good guy. I listen to him. Yeah. We are working with him on his motives. Speaker 26: We love him. He's great because he's he's an attorney. So, I mean, yeah, he he can really I mean, listening to him, he can explain it really super well to the public, I think. Even from the attorney standpoint and, like, legally, I'm yeah. He's, like, phenomenal explaining the whole Speaker 6: how they set this whole thing up. And sometimes sometimes Stan Graham comes on our spaces. So Speaker 7: I I mean I mean, you if we load all this information, right, why don't we believe that the virus is a fake? All the virus, not just the COVID and HIV, all of this. Speaker 1: I mean, Because we have electron Speaker 7: microscopes. Yeah. But that means we have viruses Speaker 1: under the electron microscope. Yeah. Speaker 7: Because because it's a it's a cell died and break into the fragment, and you are just looking the fragment of the DNA pieces probably. That's the reason why. You know? It's reproducing itself, though. Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway okay. Thank you. I don't think that's it. Steve, you've had your hand up for a long time. Go ahead. Hi, Huckleberry and doctor. Speaker 29: I had a question. With the immunities having a role in when you could contact the virus, can we agree well, first of all, I have a question before I go there. Are we still under the Emergency Healthcare Authorization Act? Are we still kind of under that umbrella? Yes. Yes. We are. Okay. So that limits the therapeutic options, which goes to my next point. That's that's a total scam because I had to buy a book on masks since my own doctor doesn't know what a mask does or anybody in the office. I didn't I did not know that I inhale a 0.04% carbon dioxide and exhale 4%. That stays inside your mask, with oxygen, I'm inhaling, I think, 21%, and I exhale, something like 16. So I'm I'm keeping 5%. What I'm saying is by wearing the mask, doesn't that make the situation and the virus more, I'm gonna say, ripe for it to be infectious to yourself by not Yes. I mean, you're because you're you know, it's like it's like putting a a hose in your, exhaust pipe in your in your car and staining your garage. Is it not is this ridiculous to what you would think? Regular pediatricians or a doctor would say, this is what a mask does, so you don't wanna be exercising in it or with it on. And and can can you help me out there? Why I I quit my doctor. I I got off my statins, and he still said, well, Steve, you know, we need to keep you on, cholesterol because it's hereditary. I go, well, I changed my lifestyle. My my numbers are great now. I even did a coronary calcium test. I go, well but but it's in your family genes, so we're really I mean, you're you're right when you said don't go to a hospital. I but I'm I'm getting the feeling that these doctors get paid every time they write a prescription. And I and I'm and I'm just I don't trust them anymore. It's almost like, you know, you used to trust your priest, and now you, you know what I mean? You can't trust your own doctor anymore. Anybody with a white, white lab coat. I, I, I'm just so pissed off. We lost a friend, 29 years old, just locally here in Orange County. She's a nurse out of Hoag Hospital. She got her second, COVID shot. They're gonna do a biopsy or, whatever they call it, a autopsy. I told my twenties, what I'm trying to lead to, the mask doesn't help. And when are they gonna lift this emergency authorization to allow us to use these therapeutic different treatments like the hydrochloroquine or the, chlorine dioxide or the ivermectin. I mean, when are they gonna cut us loose? Speaker 6: When are they gonna cut us loose? So there's Never heard. I mean, there's only there's this was intentional, y'all. Like, I mean, I'm a survivor, and I can tell you the twelve days that if I mean, my husband and daughter busted me out of the ICU. They stormed the ICU and removed me. Wow. It was intentional that they intended to commit homicide upon me. That is what caused them Speaker 26: to rescue me. Oh my god. And why don't the police ever believe this? The question why they why are they not it's like, literally, they're, like, making people hostages in the hospital. And it's worse Nothing will happen. And it's worse, doctor They won't believe it. It's worse, doctor Licatos, because when my husband Speaker 6: stormed the ICU and got inside, they called the police. There's a picture in the Wow. Chat. Six I know. They don't work for the people in terms of We had a we had a six hour police standoff. There were six officers in the hallway. Wow. And and we it took us six hours to be able to leave. And, you know, they intended my thank god my daughter was stuck in the hallway and videotaped it. They intended they were trying to figure out how to get my husband out of the room so they could remove him. Well, Huckleberry, for this is for you, the doctor, don't they have now what my wife makes me carry around is a Speaker 29: a family directive or a directive Speaker 6: They just don't care. Speaker 29: I mean Well, if you had that with you, does that have any clout? I mean, if you have a directive where Speaker 6: they can't touch you and somebody else has to make that decision for you Yeah. They don't. Yeah. That's most. I mean, it should help, but they don't care. I mean, my directive was that I was not a DNR. They made me a DNR anyways. I had to I even hired an attorney who went to the administration, and they still would not change it. Speaker 26: I got it. Like like Oh, the hospice was a big push too during COVID too. Yeah. We got emails that we have to put people in hospice earlier because they're gonna die anyway. So get hospice involved. Yes. They cover their gut nice and comfortable. Now, doctor, are you familiar with, doctor Judy Mankovich and Ken Oh, yeah. I met her. Yeah. Great. 2096 by I was gonna say 02/1966 is when the COVID vaccines are scheduled for for patients in the hospital, by the way. So they're planning to have them going for a while. Speaker 29: Now can you go into a little detail? I don't wanna take a lot of your time. What is this this what what's this Speaker 26: disease access coming around? What what what's this all about? I think that's just the scare tactic, honestly. I mean, the the media I mean, that's the World Economic Forum talking about that. And, I mean, I've watched plenty of their little conferences too. So, mean, their ultimate goal is to wipe out humanity and replace us with robots is what they talk about or, you know, hybrid humans, and they say there's not gonna be real, you know, homosapiens around by 02/1960. So they're pretty clear about it. You know? And, I mean What what so listening to them, you kinda know what's up there. Right. It's just they're probably surprised people, you know, listen to it, but they put it all out there in their conferences. And they're they cover everything, every aspect of, you know, 20 different topics of global stuff that they're covering, environmental, equity, and all this crap. You know? They're the ones in charge of all these protocols too, by the way, because, we followed a it's a world council. It's called, like, living pro living guidelines is what they're in charge of now and the who's in charge of that everybody's gotta follow because they're turning the whole world into a communist health care system Yeah. Where everybody's gotta get equity, which means everybody gets the exact same treatment just like Remdesivir. Everybody got the same exact dose from out of your weight. You could be seventy pounds, and they're gonna give you a dose that puts you in a renal failure, which they had experimental, dialysis product also they're using that they brought out, during COVID too. So tons of people are going on dialysis. That's one thing I was picking up on quick, and they're putting people on dialysis too quick. Do you know what the experimental treatment was? I'd have I have to look it up. I got the I gotta save some it was under EUA also. So, you know, I forget where I found it if it was in, their government documents or just you know? But that that was I found that just, like, a year ago, so that was one of these, like, late details. Right. And the people on dialysis were dying even quicker. So you went on dialysis, you're dead in, like, a day or two. Yeah. So I was like, what I'd like to see how many of our, victims Speaker 6: that apply to. Okay. So I I I gotta let's put a pin in in this because we've got one my last question. My last question is this. With 22,000,000 Speaker 29: migrants coming up from Latin America, and nobody's required to take even Tuberculosis. Yeah. Yeah. I mean And But but they're making us Speaker 6: take, or forcing the vaccine again if it comes around and wear a mask. I mean, how can that wash with the public? And do you think that that that's just not gonna hold water anymore? Well, I I'll tell you exactly how it it washes with the public because people don't stand up. People just hand over their freedom freedom because they're just a little afraid. You know what will stop it? Every single person standing up. We still are if the masses if everybody who talks about do not comply Right. Did not comply, this would be over. But, you know, it's people people always have a reason. Okay? Well, Huckleberry, you make the t shirts and I'll buy a 100 of them. Do not comply. The majority of the people looking to see that, though. They're messing with me. Okay. So so So they don't even know. If you go to takeastandmerch.net, takeastandmerch.net, that is my husband and I have Alright. Let me write that down. Takeastandmerch..net..net. And what does your shirt say? It well, we have a bunch of them. We have do not comply. We have a whole bunch of medical freedom, and it the whole it's it's it's a very, in your face kind of we make shirts that say what need to be said and counter the other side's message and say it boldly. So if you're bold Speaker 29: and you wanna express yourself boldly, there you go. I love it, and I love I love you selling the T shirts, and I love the I'm gonna leave you with this. The one the Mark Twain one that I love is it's easier to fool somebody than it is to convince them they've been fooled. Yes. That one's gonna be going up too. My husband just designed it. But I'm so glad you made it okay. I love your spirit. And, doctor, thanks for pitching in. We can't get enough of you guys to speak out against what, what they're trying to do to us. And, I appreciate this. We need more of these spaces. So, Speaker 26: but you all have a great weekend. I'm gonna drop out, but thank you for letting me speak. Oh, disease at oh, COVID right now, influenza a to COVID ratio is, like, three to one. Oh, really? So they kinda track that in the hospital. But, yeah, I I haven't seen anything that could really disease x type that they could actually roll out that would actually be able to spread. Because most of the stuff that would kill people that quick can't spread that quick, like Ebola and Exactly. You know? Yeah. And after all, like, the MERS, the Middle Eastern, you know, which is, like, another COVID, basically, that they dropped in The Middle East while we were, you know, fighting, I think, in Yemen, actually. So it's well I got my head on. You gotta fight over there. It doesn't apply. You're not comply. Speaker 29: Hey, what's the are you in? I'll be stopping CNN too. So I'm in California. Orange County, California. Oh, it's in BC. Yeah. Speaker 26: Do you know do not comply and flee if you must. Yeah. I know. No shit. Alright. You guys have a good evening. It was so fun talking. Everyone in Mexico actually knows the treatments, by the way. You go to any pharmacy. Well, you know, it's Cancun or something like that. Oh, I know that one. I know that one. Yeah. We go to Mexico. We go we're we're we're Is that kinda bad, though? Mexico. Everyone in Mex China too. You go any these other countries. But guess what? You know what? The UK doesn't have any clue about hydroxy or ivermectin for all the people I've met over there in England and stuff, so they got no idea either. So most of Europe is under control. Like, we are Australians don't know. New Zealand doesn't know. All of us under the globalist control pretty much. We don't know the real treatments. Hey. I I listen. I hope you do this space once a week. If you can help one person a week at least minimum, you're doing you're doing more than than any other doctors are doing. So thank you so much. We are here every Saturday night at 7PM. Speaker 29: I will be there and, hope to chime in and listen to you guys. But thank you so what? And I'm gonna go I'm gonna buy my shirt right now. Awesome. Thank you, Steve. Alright. Bye bye. Bye. Speaker 6: Okay. So next we've got I'm gonna go to Miriam and then Hippy Dippy. Miriam probably fell asleep. Miriam? Alright. We'll go hippie dippy and then Miriam. Speaker 4: Okay. Hey. Thanks for having thanks for having me up. Yeah. I just I wanted to say, something that I said in the last space, but documentation, documentation, documentation. You know, that EBM that was brought in incrementally. I've been in the in in medical, for about forty years now, but I I started out as a medical malpractice paralegal and kind of grandfathered into a transcriptionist, and medical language special specialist and then a documentation, specialist and and started up I was one of seven people that started up the medical documentation records, in the California prisons, and we did all 35 of them. And when we started documentation, every prison wrote their own chart notes and stuff. So we morphed that into the EMR, the the, electronic medical records system, and, you know, that took a couple years. But I have watched through the years, you know, looking at the big picture and how they have basically turned this the charting into an exercise in box checking. Doctors and nurses don't have to think it all. The doctor patient narrative, portion is all but gone. What we used to do, soap notes, you know, subjective objective, assessment and plan, and it was all a narrative. And as transcriptions, we would transcribe all that. They pretty much phased us all out, so I watched it all happen. And I just have to say to everybody, make sure that you insist on the doctor, you know, typing or, you know, whatever, writing into your notes, any narrative that that that you want documented. You know, stand there, have their scribe or their, their physician's assistant in the room with you. Just gone are the days that we can look at these white coats as it's something to look up to. It's it's not they don't they're these white coats are not crowns. They're not badges. They're not bulletproof vests. These are human beings. They're not you know, I think I've seen in in these rooms more brainpower than many of these newer physicians. So you have a smattering of really good physicians out there, and, you know, you you'll you'll know them by their fruits kinda thing. But I just can't. Because they face a transcriptionist out, there's no longer another a person there to double check and triple check, the medical mistakes and and, you know, errors in your in your documentation. So please make sure get your medical records, copy them, have you know, store them, and just just make sure that what you want in your narrative notes is what you want in there and and and just any way you can do that. I go in with stacks of things that, that the studies and research that I've done on the diagnosis that I have, and I present it to them, put them on notice. Let them know that you're you know. They took an oath to protect your health. You they work for you, not the other way around. And, also, I just wanted to recommend, there's a really good author that I found, like, in in, like, late eighties, early nineties, and her name is Echo Heron, and she was a nurse during the transition time, when medicine became, you know, all the HMOs HMOs came in, and she was very disillusioned. She was a dynamite nurse, and I think she's wrote three books, but I would recommend, people pick up her books. Echo Heron, echo as in reverb, and h e r o n. Anyway, thank you very much for listening. Speaker 6: Oh, thank you for coming on. We always appreciate it. Okay. So, Miriam, if you're back. And if not, Miriam going once, going twice. Okay. I'm gonna go to Jani Freedom. Speaker 1: And then Kimberly. Speaker 6: And then Kimberly. Yes. So, Jenny? Army mom, angry granny grizzly. Just gotta take yourself off mute. Speaker 8: Oh, hi. I did not know that I had done this. I apologize. I'm so sorry, but I'm really enjoying this. And thank you so much for standing up for everyone. Speaker 6: Sure. Do you do you have anything else that you wanted to Speaker 8: Sorry. I I no. But I just we're fighting. I'm in California also in Orange County, and so it's great hearing Steve. And we're fighting really hard. We've stood with hospitals, and we've gone against a lot of these mandates and things. So, I agree with you. If everybody's set up, this would have ended a long time ago. Yep. So thank you for being here. Oh, thank you. Thank you for coming on. Speaker 6: Alright. Let's see. Miriam, are you back? Yes. I'm back. I'm sorry. I'm getting calls. We'll go Miriam and then Kimberly. Speaker 14: Oh, I don't even I missed so much. I'm sorry, guys. I've got other phone calls and things that have come in. So I just wanted to say, I appreciate everybody. We are in a collective fight of our lives, for humanity's lives and health. I think that the best thing we can do, I know that, Gail was saying this earlier, we have to literally keep speaking the truth, standing up, standing together with anyone who's willing to be in the fight. And I think as far as, all the different small details, the one detail that is important is we we know that the plan is to attack us again, label it whatever you want to, x, y, z, a, b, c. It doesn't matter. We have to find a way to keep ourself healthy. That means, basically, the one thing that's kept humanity alive since the beginning of time is our immune function. And I just want to say, in my own case with my husband and I, if you look at my picture, he was a ram desert protocol victim. We both had, ten days before we got COVID in on September 11 no. 09/10/2020. On August 31, we went to see a functional medicine physician. We both had a test done called a NutriVial, and what it did was it looked at all of our, vitamin levels, our mineral levels, heavy metals, etcetera. I don't think I've ever told any of you guys this this guys this before, but mine were all either normal or super normal, except for vitamin a. And, I have Hashimoto's autoimmune thyroid disease, and so you will deplete vitamin a when you have have that kind of, dysfunction with your thyroid. My husband, however, had every single one of his low or critically low except for vitamin d. So, you know, when we both got what we got, we can like I said, we can call it x y z, whatever. By day two, his o two sats were in the seventies. He was struggling to breathe. He hated hospitals, would never go near them, but he felt so horrible he asked me to take him. Me, I had symptoms. If I got up and moved around, my o two sats were, like, in the upper eighties, and my heart would shoot up to, like, one ten, one fifteen. So I knew I was ill, but I knew he was worse. So the whole point of this is, you know, I had been taking care of my health for a year, and I never ended up hospitalized. So I think if we want to beat the people at who the WF, the UN, and the whole biopharmaceutical military complex who is making money off to the deaths of our loved ones and off of the injections. The way we win is to take care of our own health and educate other people. Because no matter what they do, what they release or don't release, or what they create or don't create, if you take care of your immune system, you won't be a victim, and they will lose because their goal is to profit while they reduce the population and create their own little new world order. So we win by living and by sticking together. I love you all, and thank you very much. Speaker 6: Thank you. I agree with you so much. Okay. I always appreciate you, Miriam. Alright. So, let's go to Kimberly. Speaker 5: Hello. What we have here is a hidden cast system. So you come into this world as a baby, and you grow up to be a man or a woman, and then they denigrate you to a male or a female, which relates to animals. And they call you they give you titles like mister and miss and ma'am and lady and gentleman. And then they denigrate you they make you a human with human rights, and then they further denigrate you to a slave with civil rights. And they give you, unisex titles like parent and child, and this is part of the reason why they're looking to erode, your given gender, if you will. They want everybody to be a uniform slave, a thing. And they're not gonna get away with that, so they just soon kill you off and pay the consequence for all of the securitization and fraud that they've created. And they're doing that in all kind of ways. I'm actually sitting in a neuro ICU right now. My mom was poisoned by gadolinium where she had a complete anaphylactic shock, and they will not treat the gadolinium. They lie. They obfuscate. And we've been here since May 8. So now they're trying to take, guardianship over her when we've already declared our status as living men and women. So when you go to the medical records and they've got everything listed as, male and female and, mister and miss. And if you don't go through and correct those things, they stand. And then what that puts you in the position of falling under the Inland Treaty, where they've given their self the right to experiment on their own, that which they created. And they created that that, human from the abandoned placenta that they created a registration, a certificate for. So I only bring all this up because it's super important that until we recognize that we've been denigrated, maliciously changed our status unlawfully, they're gonna continue to say they have the right to do all these things. When they don't lawfully have the right to do these things. This is complete fraud and fraud in the worst kind of way. It's called a crime of personage. It's been outlawed worldwide since 1926, and it is, a securitization fraud. It's a crime of state. It is, a capital crime. So when all of this starts to come into the realization, it's gonna get real bumpy because there's gonna be a lot of people that they didn't know and they did things they ought not do, or they did know and they did them deliberately. Either way, the consequence, is there that they have broken the public law of the living men and women. So So there's there's three parts of you. Right? And they're misrepresenting the thing to you, the living, man or woman. And under the Enmont treaty, they've given themselves the authority to experiment, to kill, pillage, plunder, rape, murder. It doesn't matter. They can do it to the thing because it's just a thing, a fiction. So I just wanted to encourage everyone to consider that position and, position yourself with that knowing so that you can stand up and say, wait a minute. I'm not the thing. I'm the living man or woman, and hold them accountable for that personage. So anything in the all capital letters, when you're in the hospital and you look at the patient's wristband and it says last name, comma, first name, middle name, all upper case letters. There's no style in the English language for that to be a proper noun, the name of a man or a woman. Speaker 1: Is this related to natural law? Speaker 5: Well, yeah. It's it's an falls under ecclesiastical law where you're the natural person. You're the created thing, and the creation cannot be greater than the creator. But your creator created you, and you create everything else. So, yes, it falls under natural law. Speaker 1: I've seen people having a very hard time arguing that in the world. Speaker 26: Yeah. Speaker 5: Well, it depends on if you actually declare, record, and publish who you are and then hold them accountable to it. Obviously, they don't like it. Right? But if we don't hold them accountable, if you if we just fight from the position of a denigrated status, they have the legal right. Now anytime they take something that's legal and legalize it, they have to offer the remedy, or they have to have a remedy. But they often don't honor the remedy. If you go into the emergency room or you go into the doctor and they order gadolinium and they give you the gadolinium and you have an allergic reaction, you're you're harmed by that metal that contrast drug. They're they've held themselves harmless. They don't accept any accountability. There's no antidote. There's no treatment. They just, you know, kinda leave you stranded. And then they say, well, you can't hold us accountable. That's just our standard of care. But you have a duty of care to preserve and protect life. I wanna say this one other thing. They are making money off of your DNA, and they have been since the heel prick. And they have been since the, the placenta was abandoned. And they've been selling your DNA. They've claimed you as pro as chattel property. So the Uniform Law Commission, drafted some legislation that they put in front of all the state legislatures on organ donation and on death. And they take all powers of attorney to determine that. They never take organs from a cadaver. And and they don't have the authority to create that legislation. In 2022, these the US Supreme Court gave an opinion in Western University's EPA, which was a major questions doctrine case that said only Congress has rule making authority, and they cannot further delegate it to anyone else. So all these attorneys out there and all these, NGOs and others that are making policy, it's not lawful and it's not legal, especially if they don't honor remedy. So there's going to be a, a tipping point where they're gonna have to stand for if they didn't honor the remedy, then it was illegal and it was criminal. If they honor the remedy, then they've legalized it. And if they've misapplied it, to living people, then there's a consequence for that. So I just wanted to kind of get people thinking about, are you answering to male or female? Are you answering to mister or miss? Are you letting people give you British titles? What are the legal implications to that? And then who are you really? You're really, a created being, by your creator, and you're here for a purpose. And there's something in this world that you and only you can do. And so I challenge everybody to ponder that. What is your purpose in this, and what is it that you can do? And that if you don't do it, we're gonna be left with a void as a as a collective. And, I'll I'll end with that. Thank you. Speaker 1: Yeah. I I can't speak to the natural law stuff, but I definitely definitely think everybody should do whatever they can to get involved and take action against, all the things that we've been subjected to. Speaker 9: Lee, would you like to go ahead next? Hi, everybody. I love you all. I love your program. I have a few questions. First, I need to find a good doctor in Boston. I am in Mass General Brigham and Tufts in, for different reasons. In, since 02/2020, I feel sick, always inflamed, but I didn't pay attention. I was teaching. I'm teaching piano. I was teaching all Chinese, say, 60 kids. And, doing recitals, going to Carnegie Hall with with kids to compete, and it was always this, Asian community. And I never got COVID or anything, until February. And, also, I was helped by my daughter who is in floor lives in Florida, and she gave me ivermectin as I was on Zelenka protocol. I got better. I recovered, but my my COVID started in one hour. I was the the fever went up from minimum to maximum, so the the whole scale. And I completely collapsed to bed, and my left side of face was twitching the eye, the the the mouth the the lips, the the nose, the cheek. But then after two days, I got better, and I thought I recovered. I didn't finish ivermectin. It is it is written, twice a week for, the next three, four weeks. I was only doing it five days. I blame myself for it. But in two, three months, my problems started. Five emergencies, chest pain, corticone corticonechondritis, a D dimer. They checked me for the lung, clots. No lung clots, but they found wrong cactuses, but it very, very mild. Then it was neurological problems. MRI of my head because I thought I had a terrible two and a half months headaches. So I went through, ear hearing loss. Vision was also not as as good. Hearing loss and tinnitus. But the worst part is neurological muscle loss, and I went I did the biopsy, neurological biopsy, they call it I forgot the name of it. First, I did EMG studies for nerves in the legs, and then it was a biopsy also in the bottom of leg. But, it, it didn't they didn't find anything. They didn't tell me anything because I I'm not vaccinated. I just had COVID, and I had, injure I think I have injuries because when I read about long COVID, I I think it is long COVID, but my doctors deny me, any, conversation even about COVID or injuries. They laugh at me. They say, that my, request for ivermectin, they said, it gives heart attack. It gives, cardiovascular diseases, my primary care. So I left my pulmonologist, because he said that he will choose his staff over me, if I ask, certain questions, not in the right form. Meaning, I was asking, for his opinion, but I was given opinion of secretary who said go to the emergency room. I said, I I need to see a doctor. No. You you doctor said, you're fine. If if you don't feel fine, go to the emergency. And when I, finally was about to reach the doctor in two days, he said it to me that don't speak to my stuff like this, or you will be out. So this is how it is in Boston in best hospitals. I I took a picture from every wall. We have pictures. How to speak to doctors, nurses, and separators, and patients. And if you don't speak, you will be asked out. So this is what is hanging in Mass General now in Brigham, and I can't find a doctor. Now I'm I'm in I'm practically always in bed because if if I stand twenty minutes, I want to lay down. Oh, by the way, I also had, appendicitis. This is how many different, probably, dorm virus, in my body, in muscles, and in abdomen. So it's it's just all of a sudden, it it it's it flares up, and I, every three months, I have something new. And I'm wondering what should I do for when will this be over? And I take, NAC. I take I p six gold, by the way. I wanted to ask, doctors if anybody knows. I was reading on Twitter that this is good for lungs. I p six gold twice a day before food. The the bromelain, I think it's helping to the muscles and bones. But is it not a kinase? But maybe I'm poisoning myself with maybe I'm overdosing myself with all this, because I'm really, I really want to recover, but I cannot yet. I can't walk for a long time. And I just, like, prior to 2020 and 02/2022, especially COVID, I was modeling in my age, and now I'm nothing. I am just, like, 89 years old. My mother is this age. But I'm just I'm I'm desperate now. Please, if you, if you can, bring light on what to do and and how can I fight, that I'm not vaccinated, but that's what COVID gave me? And I feel it it was real. Some people say it's not, but I never was sick in one hour and with twitching face and and then so many injuries after. Thank you so much, and I hope everybody is getting better as soon as possible. Thank Speaker 6: you. Thank you. Thank you, Leah. I see Tanya is on. Tanya, good to see you. Speaker 10: Yeah. I just had one question. Awesome. I'm sitting in for the first time Mhmm. Speaker 6: With all the health care people. Speaker 10: Do you anybody what is the longest time, you know of any COVID patient that you've either treated or heard been treated, throughout, I guess, the country or wherever that you could talk about? Speaker 6: So we, I can tell you from our advocacy, two years. We, helped somebody get out of the hospital after two who was in two years that was in Minnesota. I know, there's a few that we, few stories we have out on chbmp.org. That was about nine months, six months. But, typically, it I mean, if it's a well, and those people eventually passed. But, like, survivor stories, sometimes the it it it's, you know, thirty days, anywhere from thirty days to six months is kinda what we hear, but we have seen sometimes longer, but usually usually not because the hospitals, they they they try to, they it seems like they try to kill somebody in twenty one days. That seems to be about the magic number. Speaker 10: Right. And me and you had been speaking. Speaker 31: You're aware of two hundred and forty days I did in the hospital. So Yeah. Yep. Speaker 6: That's a long it's that's a long time, and and most of the time, it is not that long. And Kat was looking out for you. Speaker 9: I'm sorry. My account is, is locked, and some someone who sent me a message I appreciate your message, in in, the private message. Speaker 6: Sure. But, Speaker 9: I can't respond because it kicks me out immediately. I'm lucky to to speak. At least, They gave me this opportunity. Thank you so much. Sure. Thank you. Speaker 6: Yeah. Speaker 7: I'm not a doctor, but, I just want to, share something, to Leah. Doctor Artis has a lot of videos talking about using the Liquin to, to cure the kind of symptom that you have. Basically, you can try with the Lictin, a gun, two milligram. Just choose that, you know, couple times a day. Mhmm. Or you use a Lictin patch. I think that'll work, for you. It's also work for the lung COVID. Yeah. You know, many people use that. It really helped them. So maybe you can try that. The private message I I sent you the private message. It's just, the video that, doctor Addis had with, with Mike, Adams. So, you know, if you are able to watch that video, I'm pretty sure that'll help. Again, I'm not a doctor. I'm not a nurse. I'm just a regular guy and, do a lot of research. So, please, take a look at that video. I'm pretty sure it's it's gonna help. Thank you. Speaker 8: Can I speak to Leah's question real quick? Sure. Okay. Leah, I had COVID in November, and I haven't been okay since then. I didn't take the shots, but what I did, was I contacted my free doc myfreedoctor.com. And, so it's like a telehealth, visit and got ivermectin from them because I decided to follow the FLCCC protocol of, doing ivermectin and aspirin together. So, they wrote the prescription for the ivermectin, and I've got the aspirin. And that does seem to be helping me. I'm getting my, energy back, but I've had bad headaches, lethargy, just couldn't quite just can't quite get my stamina back. And I did speaking of the, nicotine patches, the nicotine gum, I did do that to get my taste and smell back, and the patch worked in one hour. Speaker 6: Yeah. My husband too. My husband did that too Speaker 8: to get his smell and his taste back. Mhmm. It's it was shocking to me that it worked that fast. Amazing. So, anyway, that's what I'm doing, and it's Thank you. To be helping. So I hope that will help you too. Speaker 9: But, aspirin, what do you mean? Is it the ibuprofen or motrin or tetra? Speaker 8: No. The FLCCC. And it's and it's a specific study. It starts with an a. It's on their website. Speaker 33: Okay. And Speaker 8: I I wanna set six hundred fifty milligrams of aspirin per day. So you divide it in three doses. And I'm not a doctor or a nurse either. I'm just telling you that's what they recommend and that's what I chose for myself. So, now when I contacted my free doc, they texted back some other recommendations like resveratrol. I don't even know where to get that. And I think bromelain and NAC Yeah. They recommended additional things, but, I'm not really doing those other things right now. I'm just doing the, aspirin and the ivermectin. So it's like equivalent of fifteen milligrams ivermectin, twice a day. And then the aspirin, six hundred fifty milligrams divided, Speaker 9: three times a day. I wrote it down. Thank you. You're welcome. So much. Thank you. Alright. Speaker 6: So, I wanna go back to Tanya and make sure we've answered all any I wanna make sure Tanya, do you have anything else you got kinda talked over? Speaker 10: No. I just want I wanted to ask that question, since it's my first night sitting in. I'm so glad you joined. Speaker 6: So glad. It's good. I didn't know I don't know what the all the rules are and what you can and can't say, so I've just been listening. Oh, yeah. You can say whatever you want. Speaker 7: Oh, sorry. I just wanna add one more thing, to Leah. Vitamin c, you can make liposoma vitamin c at home. That, will, keep the inflammation down very quickly. So, yeah, if you want more information, you can contact me. I show you how to make that. Thank you. Thank you. And, by the way, I developed also, Speaker 9: the iron overload and, they, checked my gene mutation, and it's h sixty three d gene mutation. So that this is an another thing that I developed. Oh. I can't take vitamin c because it, it works as a pathway for the iron. It absorbs even faster in my body. Speaker 6: Alright. Speaker 9: Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 6: Okay. I wanna go to, Conserving 915, and then we'll go to mega, or mega magnificent after conserving. Speaker 27: Hello. Can you hear me? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 28: Oh, awesome. Just wanted to follow-up with Leah. Leah, I'm not a doctor, but I and I also did not take the COVID shot. But last March, I contracted, COVID, and I got really, really sick. I had a lot of the same symptoms that you were saying, and it was so bad that I think I even had POTS. I would stand up, and I felt like I was about to blackout. Even my vision was going on. The doctors, they really wouldn't help me out. I think I went to a ton of doctors, and a lot of them told me that it was in my head. And they were trying to give me, antidepressants, and I refuse to take that stuff because I've I've never felt like that in my life. You know? But, I think one of the really important parts was, so I finally decided that I was gonna go ahead and do my own research since I couldn't get any help from the medical industry. But I happened to run into, a doctor named doctor Brooke Goldner Goldner on YouTube. She's great. Apparently, she's helped a lot of people with, reverse autoimmune diseases, and her protocol is pretty basic. What I've been doing for the last year is pretty much the juicing or blending, about a pound of a green kale with half a cup of chia seeds. Every morning, every day for, like, a whole year, all the pot symptoms are gone. A lot of the, COVID symptoms that I had, like, shortness of brands are gone. I lost, like, about a 100 pounds. I was a big boy, unfortunately. So that wasn't very the interesting thing is there's a lot of studies on PubMed that show that, people who are on a plant day plant based diet were seventy five percent less likely to be hospitalized with severe COVID. Those were on the that were on the Mediterranean diet were actually fifty percent less likely to be hospitalized with COVID. So I think, a lot of those nutrients are in the chia seeds, the kale, the blueberries actually help reduce a lot of the inflammation that's going on within the body. I think, like, the chia seeds are jam packed with omega three and the alpha linolenic acid, which is one type of omega three, is actually very, very powerful at reducing the inflammation in the body and it boosts brain derived neurotrophic factors in your body. So if I don't know. Like, it helped me out a lot, and I'm super thankful for her. I have no affiliation with her, but I I sing her graces just because it's really turned my life around a lot. And, again, her name is Brooke Goldner. She's worked with all kinds of people with autoimmune diseases. And I think she's actually said that she believes that long COVID syndrome is actually a result of a nutritional deficiency. So go ahead and check her out. Like, I think she even has free classes on her website. Speaker 10: Thanks for that. Thank you. Speaker 28: I'll also also wanted to say one more thing also because, I'm not sure how effective, I've seen a lot of good talk and a lot of positive things about chlorine dioxide, but I'd be really, really careful with that. I know there's people that have been had that say they've had success with the things like ALS and Alzheimer's and all that. But I feel that might be something you wanna talk with a professional. I don't know if it's as simple as taking over the counter vitamins and minerals because, I think it does give the body oxygen. But if your body's not in the right state and it has the proper antioxidants, it's not gonna be able to kind of fight off the oxidation the oxidated species that are generated as a result of taking chlorine dioxide. There's, like like I said, it has, like, a lot of good graces, but that's not something I I would do without doing some really, really deep research and without maybe even consulting that knows a lot about that stuff. Speaker 9: Thank you so much. Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Mega Meg magnificent and then, Vanessa. Speaker 8: Well, I already spoke, so I just landed my plane. Speaker 6: Okay. Okay. So Megha landed her plane. So, so let's go to Vanessa. And I I I wanna go ahead and remind everyone, again, if you'd like to speak, press the little microphone in the left lower corner. And if you have a story of COVID related crimes against humanity, you know, protocols, mandates, harms by protocols mandates, death, shot injury, shot death, please, please put your story in at c h b m p dot org and schedule an interview. And speaking of interviewers, Vanessa is one of our amazing interviewers. Go ahead, Vanessa. Speaker 22: Hey. I was just gonna add to Tanya's story. You know, Delilah is not on tonight, and she lost her husband, Rocky because Delilah, Tanya was asking about the two hundred and forty days. Yes. I I think Rocky was pretty close to that and he didn't make it. And her story is amazing as well. So, Tanya, don't give up. You know, you're a survivor and there's so many things that we discover as interviewers. And everybody's story is so similar but yet different in a in a functional way. And I concur, please get your stories out there with chbnp.org. Then you can schedule your interview with some great amazing interviewers through Booking. Our schedules are pretty open for this month and next month. We highly encourage you, you know, to fill out the complete questionnaire and document your story. We know it's gonna be emotional to continue to do your story, but once you speak with us because we've been there, we can help you work through it, and please reach out to us all. Yes. Thank you, Vanessa. Speaker 6: You're welcome, Matt. I wanna I'd like to share. Speaker 18: And it's doctor doctor Hope Kelman. I'm a naturopath and actually just had breakfast with Del Bigtree. On on Monday in LA. I'm gonna share, I I stay behind the scenes for a number of reasons, but I have a number of years as a naturopath, almost thirty. There's I apprenticed to a medical doctor, a colonel from the Pentagon, two years ago in Texas. His name is doctor Richard Neal, Colonel doctor Richard Neal. And he was treating a number of people on the border with, high levels of sublingual melatonin with extremely positive results. And I I myself have used sublingual melatonin for any symptoms that are COVID related. And I highly suggest, you know, we're not allowed to do any, you know, work on the sap that is diagnostic, but I highly suggest trying sublingual melatonin. Now you can get sublingual melatonin at, Walgreens and CVS, and it's gotta be sublingual. And the research that he did and he probably treated thousands of people. And he only lost when I when I knew one patient who hadn't taken melatonin. And the hormone has a way of getting the parasympathetic nervous system to go into a phase of of healing. So you take it at night, and depending on your weight, I take sixty milligrams, which is quite a bit for my size and and weight. If you're if you're a big person, you may wanna take eighty. But if you the first, sign of symptoms at night, I highly suggest looking into his work and the work on melatonin with COVID and, and trying it. It, it really does, it really has I I just just finished treating people at the Super Bowl and going to LA and flying all around all around the place. And all I'm suffering from now is just exhaustion, not any any COVID symptoms. And I could smell COVID in the plane from, San Francisco to Vegas. And, I mean, you get smart enough to be able to to see it energetically. And, you know, the first sign of of any any possible symptoms, I use the melatonin. And and I hope that was helpful. I lay my claim. Speaker 6: Yeah. Thank you for that. We will go to, Cole. Hold the line +1, 23. Speaker 9: Cole, you have to unmute. Speaker 33: Yeah. Morning. Can you hear me? Yeah. I can hear you. Hi. My name is Colleen, and I'm from South Africa. And sorry for the late tune in, but we've only just woken up here. Sure. I I I just saw the headline. I thought I'd listen for a little bit on the space. Here in South Africa, I'm not really a particularly a believer of of COVID. I do know a lot of people that passed, and most of the people that passed were admitted to hospital, remdesivir, ventilator, medsala what's it? Medzolin. Can't pronounce that. Medazolam. Speaker 4: Medazolam. Everyone's Speaker 33: dead. And, most of us here in South Africa did not take the jab. We were one of the very last countries to actually get the vaccines. And by that stage already, I was following in 2020 a few few very prominent doctors who had experimented on their patients with ivermectin. We use the liquid ivermectin here, and it goes by a dosage as per your body weight. And along with that, you take an antihistamine, the non drowsy one, with each dose. And it's a rub on procedure. So for myself and my family in 2020, we would do the rub on procedure, like, once a week, and none of us ever got sick. Nothing. And we just keep it on hand now. Nobody's ever gotten sick, and I've thrown every single pharmaceutical drug out of my house. All we have is colloidal silver and lots of sunshine. And we're good. We're good to go. I can't speak for any long term COVID, but I do know the effects of horrendous horrendous injuries from, unfortunately, those who've taken the vaccine. And cancer's through the roof here firsthand. I know about this from cardiologists and, neurosurgeons. People just in your circle, you hear of acquaintances. It's like three a week with breast cancer, dropping dead of heart attacks. It's very, very sad. So, personally, I would turn my back on big pharma completely and my way of keeping against the system here in South Africa. I don't follow any of their protocols. Anything our government tells us, I do the opposite to make sure we've got plenty of water and storage, and just make sure that you are as as self sufficient as you can be for yourself. And that's it. Speaker 7: I don't even have a one yet. Oh, Speaker 34: can I speak now? Speaker 17: Yes, Susan. Go ahead. Speaker 34: Oh, well, this is Felia. I I just wanna share, something for COVID. My, I don't know, 2021, my brother, well, my sister and her whole family got sick, and then my brother-in-law got so sick that, he went to the hospital. But then we heard about, like, a long traveler. I I I know him, and and then we talk about this a lot. So we know the hospital are using Remdesivir, and and then they, are are killing people. So, yeah. So we let my brother-in-law just came out the second day. So, well, the, the medicine that really worked for him is the budesonide, and, that that is, it's, through nebulizer. It's a medicine for, asthma. And so that one is really working well for him. So, the first time he used it and, it's he already feel better. So I just don't wanna share this. Speaker 9: Thank you. Speaker 34: So that, the doctor is a Texas doctor, which is called, Richard Bartlett. He used that to treat, so many patients, and, they all get well. Oh, that's what I wanna share. Thank you. Speaker 17: Thank you for sharing that. Does anybody else have anything else they would like to say? If so, please raise your hand or request to speak. Speaker 1: Welcome to Eagle. We are excited to have you on and would love to hear, what you've been doing lately with VAERS. You do really great stuff with their data. Speaker 16: Hi. Thank you. Yeah. So, my name is Albert Benavides. I'm here in San Jose, California. I'm the creator of, bearsaware.com. So I've been, following bears, since since day one of the jabs. I'm in the, you know, the medical billing space by profession. You know, nowadays, I say I'm the number one bears auditor in the world and, you know, which is slightly different from from a bears analyst. I'll make that distinction because there's definitely awesome, VAERS analysts. But I'm I say I'm a I'm an auditor because in part, in my medical billing journey, I was an HMO claims auditor. I was a medical billing company owner. I worked in, a laboratory, bio reference laboratory. They they bought us out, but, for so I was with them for the last year, but but they are the fourth largest laboratory in the country behind Quest and, LabCorp and, ARUP Laboratories, which is a reference laboratory. It's the University of Utah, basically. So, but, anyhow, so I'm I'm pretty familiar with, corporate medicine. I've, defended ourselves against a CMS audit, down in Los Angeles, one time. So I, you know, I'm pretty familiar with with with medical billing and data and and how, you know, how the information is moving through space, the reimbursements, the denial process, all of that stuff, electronic medical records that you know, I was really excited to talk listen to, couple of people, a doctor here that was talking about it and another lady who seemed to be in kind of the same space I was, and talking about the history of, like, kind of, like, how how the the, medical profession got captured, got handcuffed. You know, and I, in hindsight, I I saw it too, saw how it happened, you know, with the, you know, and nowadays, what I, with the PQRS codes, the performance codes were, like, you when you're billing, especially for Medicare and you gotta send those performance codes, like like, is the patient vaccinated or partially vaccinated? Are are they a smoker? Are they whatever these performance codes are. And you have to keep, if you don't, you know, you'll get what's called the Medicare, sequestration in your reimbursement. So they'll deduct they'll end up deducting, like, 2% up to 4% of firstments if you don't keep sending them those performance codes. But that is one way how they captured doctors in the beginning when they were when they were making basically, wanting all the doctors to go get off paper and go on to electronic medical records. They would they did the carrot and stick with them, and they said, okay. 2% Medicare sequestration right off the bat. You're gonna get deducted 2% of all your Medicare reimbursements unless you unless you sign up and and, get your get your EMR, your electronic medical records, stuff together. And then once you do, we'll give you back, 4%, like a 4% bump. So they're giving you back your 2% plus an additional 2%. So there was the carrot. But, anyways, that's all that's all old stuff. You know, one of the things that I did wanna talk about with with you guys, I mean, the moderators here and and or CHBMP people, is I wanted to put on a, a space to talk about, the stuff that bears the this history stuff. Because I I almost feel guilty most of the time when I'm here with the vaccine injured people considering that, you know, I'm not vaccine injured myself. I'm I'm anti vaxx straight up from the beginning. I saw it coming. 2020 was was wonky. And on principle alone, I wasn't gonna take the I wasn't gonna take the vaxx. My mom forged, my school cards when I was a kid. So I I mean, I've never been vaxxed. My my ex stepfather, who's still a practicing physician here in San Jose, California, doctor Albert Gomez, homegrown, from Lincoln High School here in San Jose, California. He's still practicing. He's an INS certified, physician as well, so immigration, naturalization. He does the immigration physicals. People are, you know, naturalizing. So I did a whole ton of, there's a lot of vaccines in that whole process. Right? Because people come and they're naturalizing. A lot of them have been here for a while, so they got, like, green cards, and then they're, you know, finally getting naturalized, but they have to have their, you know, all their vaccines in order. So, that's I guess, that that is where my mom kinda turned anti vaxx because of the other moms that were coming in, from all from all countries, not just Mexico, but, you know, everywhere, India, everywhere. And these moms would pay the, you know, basically pay the the the office visit and the the x rays and all the tests and even for the vax, the vaccine. And then when they would walk back, because my mom was married to doctor Gomez. Right? So my mom's like the head honcho, office manager. I don't know how that lady did it. She I mean, because she was divorced from for a long time and still ran his office for another twenty years on top of that after after they split. But, anyways, but the moms would walk, you know my mom would walk the patient back in to the exam room getting them ready, you know, to for their exam and getting the the vaccines set up and the moms would actually say, like, oh, can you can you, like, we paid for it, but can you not give the vaccine and just write it on the card? You know? Like, like, at the last step. And my mom was like, knowing awful well that she doesn't have her son. She doesn't have me vaxxed. So she's like, and she did it. She went along. I told her later, you know, I and I was by this time, I was I was doing the medical billing as a young man. That's how I got my start from, you know, from doctor Gomez, my my stepdad, when it was my turn to cycle through his clinics. And, so anyways, I I'm just I'm just saying there's there's that weird weird stuff. I've been anti vaxxed, and, you know, I wasn't I guess I wasn't even anti vaxxed. I was just like it was I was just indifferent. It's like, no. No thanks for me. You know, it's cool. It's cool. It's I I had I didn't I didn't know there was this ugly underbelly of vaccines until, you know, this whole COVID pandemic, until I started to, to monitor VAERS because I was aware of VAERS through the thousands of, billings that I've done for administrations of vaccines through the, Medicaid vaccines for children program or to the, you know, to the perfect to the PPOs, HMOs. When you do submit through, to the vaccine for children's program through Medicaid, which a lot of the a lot of the vaccines actually go through, you have to submit it on a different form. It's called the PM 160 form. So it's really strange. I mean, it's, it just has more fields. You know? They ask, like, the height, what's the height, and the weight, and all these extra questions. But the point is is that it's not a professional claim like all other doctors submit their insurance claims for reimbursements or institutional claims the u b 90 fours that hospitals submit their insurance claims for for reimbursement. This is a third one PM 01:60 that's just for vaccines. So, you know, I I get you know, I've been in the game for a long time, and I just didn't if there was a, a VAERS report that needed to go out in those in those days, it didn't go through the billing department. So I wasn't familiar with, like, submitting a VAERS report not until this this epoch now. But I was sure familiar what it what what it was. I just never submitted had to submit a report pre this pandemic. But since this pandemic, I've been I'm like a student of theirs. I've submitted, like, half a dozen reports altogether, once for my uncle, once for Julie Threet for herself, and Julie Threet's dead mother. He has two of them with her, and a couple of other friends. So just to know the the system, I videotaped it. And wouldn't you believe it, on my own submission, my first submission, my uncle who got a, a stroke, they called it a cardiovascular accident, one month after a second Moderna in May 2021. I filed the report. I videotaped myself. And at the time, it was just going to be like a like a how to video for the next person. Like, hey. You know? Because you'd never see, like, a how to video, a live how to video, how to submit a VAERS report, which I highly suggest. It's not too late. There's no statute of limitations. Please go file your VAERS report if you haven't yet already. But anyways, I videotaped mine, and what it they invented diagnosis that my uncle simply did not have, psychosis and Parkinson's. My my uncle didn't have that Parkinson's like, so they invented that, and I was like, wait a second. And then not only that, but they changed. They altered and omitted, like, phrases out of my firsthand account summary narrative where I wrote wrote a whole page on there. And they changed some words in there, and, like, a whole sentence. I'm like, dude, that is, like I feel so violated. You're not supposed to touch that. I mean, I get I get, like, HIPAA violation. Like, if I said, oh, yeah. My uncle went to Los Gatos Hospital, you know, and rehabbed over here at this hospital, and they would take the name out, you know, that okay. I get that hip, but that's not what I did. They straight up they straight up changed my my, and I don't know, my intent or something. And, so anyways, I have that proof. I'm right to me, I feel like I'm right at the tip of the spear with this whole thing. I'm, you know, fly on the wall on a lot of important meetings. I Zoom with, the two senators from Oregon, every Friday, Thatcher and, Linthicum. They're like the they're like the few only Republican senators in in Oregon. You know, John Bodine, my buddy, a lot of a lot of lot of other people. And, so now I'm, you know, I I caught the, the hot lots, the two the the hottest lots in the Bears universe. We punted one off to Puerto Rico, and, we just I just found this these other two of them recently. We punted them off to The Philippines. Those were Jansons, two Jansons. So I reached out to The Philippines people, and then and, there's they're doing they're, like, surprised and doing a lot of work over there. The whole New Zealand thing, you know, Barry the whistleblower, Kersh, even before Barry before Barry came out, there was a lot of people. The whole the whole, you know, fighting fighter freedom fighter movement in New Zealand, and because I had my various website, I had made contact with the pocket of freedom fighters over there. Plus, I like, Sam Bailey and, and her husband, you know, the the head of the, you know, the spear of the the terrain the terrain side, you know. And regardless of what the whole debate, terrain and germ theory, you know, I got friends on both sides and, you know, for me, let them arm wrestle it out. It needs to happen. They need to arm wrestle it. I'm a little I'm partial to the terrain myself, but I know these people have been the government is so shady, gain a function, chemtrails, whatever. They poisoned us somehow, some way. And, you know but to get people, afraid and scared and to get lined up for what in hindsight looks to be like a depop a depopulation shot that they're passing off as this, vaccine. I, you know, I'll I'll get off here in a second, but, you know, I I I I I I'm a little bit bummed or bothered when people say, oh, we can't call it a vaccine. I'll call it a g a gene therapy. And it's like, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. I never put that name that word vaccine on a pedestal. It was all dog shit from the beginning. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm calling it a vaccine, what it is, because it's dog shit just like the other ones. I want it to be associated. I've never put that pedestal that word on a pedestal like that. So, you know, sorry. I'm calling it a a a dog shit vaccine like the rest of them. Thank you. So, anyways, I don't mean to get all rude and crude, but thanks for letting me talk. And, hopefully, we can, do a space on on, you know, you could help me. We'll do a space, and we'll talk talk about some deep some deep stuff. Speaker 6: So thank you. That'd be great, actually. Cool. Who's next? Chelsea, is it TurboRocket Shark? Yeah. I think it's TurboRocket Shark and then Candice. Speaker 13: Hi, guys. Speaker 27: Hi, you guys. I was just listening. I don't I didn't mean to it's just an amazing conversation as always, and I love hearing your voices and seeing y'all. And, I need to get my CMP profile done. So if you see my name on Monday, yell at me because I gotta get that done. You guys are great. You have amazing doctors and a lot of amazing health care providers in this, including myself. And I think we all know it's not right. And, you know, we've gotta honor as you guys know, when I lost my dad at the rent disappear. Anyway, I I just, you know, I had other plans Saturday, and they fell through. And I've been on just listening to you guys. So I didn't have much to say except just so good to hear y'all and love you and just praying for y'all, and we'll we'll get through it. Well, it's super good to see you Speaker 6: or hear you. Speaker 27: Yeah. Hey. And, again, I thought that was so cool for you and me both because I didn't remember anybody from Twitter either. I thought that was so cool in Oklahoma City. So, anyway, I'm so grateful. And, again, everybody was so amazing. And so, again, I have I have hope in my heart. So Speaker 6: Awesome. Awesome. Well, thanks. Thanks for joining us. Speaker 13: Alright, you guys. Speaker 6: I think next is Candice. Right? Speaker 1: Candice seems to have dropped. If she wants to request again, she could totally take the mic. Otherwise, I don't see anyone else in the queue. Is there anyone else that has anything they wanna say? Speaker 6: No? Speaker 1: Last call. If anybody has any, oh, wait. I see we do have a couple of requests. Denise, you now have speaker. And after Denise, we will go to Barbara. Hi, David. Good to see you. Hello? Speaker 6: Hey. Can you hear me? Speaker 11: Oh, somebody else is talking? Yes. No. Go to your message. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. Speaker 10: Hey, everybody. Excuse me. I'm Denise, and, my 36 year old daughter was murdered in September 2021, by the hospital pro COVID protocol. So I know that Heidi Bond in California has been doing street protesting in front of the hospitals, and I just wanted people to realize that Speaker 18: we're starting to do it in Texas, Speaker 10: and our first protest was February 3, I believe it was. And it was in front of the hospital that murdered my daughter, and it was phenomenal. It was so empowering to to, one, to see medical personnel. I don't know if they were doctors or nurses. They had scrubs on. But they would drive out of the hospital parking lot. Someone wave. Some would honk their horns at us. Some would give us a thumbs up. Others were so embarrassed. They were trying to cover their faces. They were trying really hard not to see us, pretend that we were unfair. But isn't it's it's such an empowering, Speaker 7: active Speaker 10: event. And and we were there for three hours. And during that time, we had three people that came out of the ER, three families, and their families were being basically held hostage. The families were trying to get these people out of Northeast Baptist Hospital in San Antonio, and they were refusing. They were refusing to let them out of the hospital. They were refusing to have them transferred anywhere else. I mean, this is 2024. This is four years after COVID. None of them had COVID. None of them had COVID, but the hospital was still refusing to have them transferred. And I'm sure Northeast Baptist Hospital is not the only one. I'm sure there's, you know, the doctors talked earlier about, you know, follow the money. Where's the money? You know? Almost Speaker 4: patient. Speaker 7: Really? Speaker 6: We are at our site. Speaker 5: Not saying nurse is Speaker 1: Sorry. I didn't you're breaking up. We didn't hear that last part. Could you could you say that again? I'm sorry. Speaker 6: You are breaking up. Hello? Yeah. We can hear you now. Speaker 10: Okay. Okay. So I don't know what y'all heard, but, anyway, I just basically wanted to come on and say that, with two things, two points I wanna make. So the first point is my 82 year old father, just a few weeks ago, I had to take him to the ER. And we went in, and the first thing they wanted to do was swab him for flu and for COVID. And I'm his medical power of attorney. Of course, he had a voice too, and my mom was there. And we all three said no. And the doctors were shocked. The doctors and the nurses were shocked, but we stood our ground. They, you know, pulled all the all the stops out. Well, if you don't let us swab him, then we don't know what we're treating, and we can't prescribe any medications. And I'm like, okay. Then they started talking about, you know, well, since we can't swab him, we don't we we can't do any kind of tests on him or anything, which was a lie. So we're gonna have to discharge him. I said, okay. Next thing we knew, they were doing a chest X-ray, and then they did a CT scan, and they did diagnose him with, pneumonia. And they prescribed two antibiotics. I had ivermectin at home, so I brought him home. We started him on the antibiotics and the ivermectin. The man is back out at the ranch messing with his cows again. He feels so well. So I say that to say, stand up for your rights. Stand up for your loved ones. Because if you don't, they're going to go in the hospital and they're going to be murdered just like my 36 year old daughter was. The second thing I wanted to say was, everybody needs to find their niche. Everybody needs to find a way that they feel comfortable standing up to this oligarch. We have to find a way. My way right now is, to organize protests in San Antonio, Texas, across the Texas. Right now, I'm starting in San Antonio. I have banners. We've made signs. We go out in front of the hospital, and we make them see us. We make them see us with our signs. And, my first protest was February 3, and the three hours we were there, we had three people that we prayed for and three people that we gave information to for, advocacy because the hospital was holding their loved ones hostage. So I just wanted to share those two, little tidbits with you. So thank you. Speaker 6: Thanks, please. Speaker 18: Say something to you. It's doctor Hope Kelman. Doctor doctor Richard Neal is in San Antonio, Texas. Please look him up. He's the COVID doctor who does melatonin treatment and is, will be a tremendous ally. His name is doctor doctor Richard Neal. I think his he's got an office a little outside of San Antonio, but please look him up. You can tell him that you met me, doctor Coleman, and he will be a great ally for you. Speaker 6: Oh, that's good to know. Speaker 18: Good luck. You know, I treated the woman whose husband created what's it called? Run for your life, the drug that they give you when you get in the hospital and kills you. I remember you. Yeah. Run. Death is near. Yeah. Run for your death. Run for Death. Yeah. She had divorced him, but, or he had but I still yeah. I I that's the that's the fatality. That's the drug that does the fatality. So absolutely don't let anybody take that drug when you're in the hospital. Speaker 6: Yep. That's why we're doing these, making sure people are awake and aware. Speaker 27: Hey, Denise. I just wanted to tell you, I I'm gonna try to get down to San Antonio if I can. I ran a facility in San Antonio big time during the COVID, had lots of cases. And as you organize protests, it not I wouldn't you could look into Bayhar County, and I can't remember if it's like the I don't care if it's if it's Bayhar County health department. One of them, I I and this is anecdotal. Okay? And I'm no expert on this, but I had to do a lot of reports for them. They're the ones that they've been they added so many additional requirements in addition to the federal and state at the hospital and the nursing home level. And they were really difficult to work for, and I think you will find that that part of that cancer in that area is that group because it does affect all the hospitals. And like I said, this is just anecdotal. I ran a building down there for four months, but I I had a lot of interactions because it was early on in the COVID pandemic. Speaker 18: San Antonio got hit very hard with Delta, the Delta variant, and I don't know if your daughter if that was during your your daughter's Not Speaker 27: Yeah. Yeah. Well, in San Antonio got hit early. It went from Washington to San Antonio. It came out of the military base where they kept the cruise people. Southeast Nursing and Rehab was the facility I was running. They were the second or third in the country. And you wanna talk about a stack of paperwork. And, you know, you're talking actually about a pandemic. They didn't ever do anything wrong, I mean, if you follow their rules. But I I just that that they they shut down South San Antonio. I I especially in Texas. You guys you know, several is from Texas. We didn't have what you guys had up north from what I could tell at least by coverage. But, man, San Antonio, they they shut down all the Chase. Banks, I mean, it was wild. They San Antonio was really, really took that. It was really hard on San Antonio, at least in my experience. And, again, I've just anecdotal, So I just wanted to tell you that. Speaker 6: Awesome. Okay. So, I think the next person we had Speaker 19: Barbara. Speaker 6: Barbara. Is there Barbara? Speaker 26: Charm. Speaker 6: Charm. Mhmm. Speaker 11: Yes. Speaker 6: And then we we Speaker 11: need to That's my moniker. Well, hello, everybody. I just happened to be on on TikTok or on, whatever, Twitter, and I saw this, so I decided to hop on here. Interesting listening to everybody what everybody has to say. Obviously, I'm in the health field. I don't specify all of that Where I live, you can get a $200,000 fine and go to jail for at least six months and have all of your records received and your office closed and your business license taken from you if you speak publicly against, things. And, I mean, we see that happening every day, people who are being, you know, villainized for speaking out. So, I have a little moniker. But, you know, I think, like, some some of sort of what I look at is whether it's my personal life or my practice. I mean, a lot of people are getting a lot of kinds of strange things happening to their bodies, and, the unfortunate part is that a lot of people don't don't make the connection between, the problem and, you know, the treatments that they've been getting or whatever you wanna call them. And, you know, I do have a friend who was murdered in the hospital using, I don't know. I think they use remdesivir on her as well as the as well as the, you know, the in inhalate in in The ventilator? The ventilator. Yeah. Yeah. They they murdered her. She knew. She actually she she as soon as she went to the hospital, they said she tested positive for COVID, and then they put her on a ventilator. And they put her on some kind of some kind of, some they said they put her in a coma or whatever, and she was asthmatic. So being on a ventilator in a coma when you're asthmatic, she did come too after, like, I don't know how many weeks they had her on that. And by the time they by the time they said, oh, we can take the ventilator out, and it was too late because it was all infected inside. So they actually couldn't take it out. And, she didn't die with COVID. They she didn't have COVID when she died. She died, like, seven seven or eight weeks after she got in there. But we could all I mean, I'm I'm guessing they probably gave her remdesivir along with it. Now, I mean, the other the other thing, I'm in Canada, and the other thing that's going on here in parallel with all of this, and I believe we are, you know, facing genocide. The other thing that's going along with it is, we have, like, another sort of arm of these of the, agenda. They made MAID, MAID, MAID. They're they're ramping up MAID, which is medical assistance in dying. Yes. Mhmm. And we went from three thousand like, three three or four years ago, whatever. It was, like, two or three thousand cases a year. Well, apparently, last year, the statistics are sixteen thousand, and it's becoming the the the highest, they're getting the highest rates of, you know, increase and and cases anywhere in the world. Apparently, it's increasing faster than anywhere else in the world. And I was at a a there was a a meeting. It was it was a meeting It was about, effects, you know, on on this whole thing on the medical profession, like, all the policies related. And they had a they had a they did a video, and so they were speaking to all these health professionals. Some of them were injured. Lots of them had lost their jobs, you know, all the all the various kinds of things that we see happening. And, one person on the panel, I I haven't got her name yet, but I'm trying to track down who who it was. She mentioned that, they now have in our hospitals here in Canada, they actually have a quota for MAID. Speaker 6: Really? Speaker 11: Yes. And not only that, they're they're right in the process now of making MAID. Anybody who has any kind of mental health issue or an addiction or anything like that will be able to get MAID. And there's a thing on right now because if if it doesn't get, if it doesn't get a moratorium as of May, anybody with a mental health issue or any kind of any kind of addiction or anything can get made just like that. Well, you know, if you're depressed or if you're Yeah. If you're, you know you know, you have a psychotic attack because of whatever drugs you're doing, it would be very easy to end up in the psych ward and end up dead, and they said you had made I mean, Bill Gates many of you may know this. Bill Gates said straight out recently at some meeting he was at, they recorded it, and it's on YouTube. He talked about the, what did you call it? The death the the not the death squad, but the death panels. That they were gonna have death panels in the hospital to decide who would live and who would die, and they're making it so made as, you know, freely available to anybody that wants it. But not only that, but the doctors can now decide whether or not people can at least here, they can decide whether or not somebody should, get made or not. And they don't even have to tell them that they decided. Like, you could have an 80 year old. Something ends that have they have some health problem. They come into the hospital, and they've got this health problem. They decide, well, we don't wanna spend $40,000 keeping this guy in here for six months, so we'll just mate him. And we don't have to tell him. We don't have to tell his family or anything like that. So the main thing is paralleling right now, it's paralleling the what's happening with the, the treatments. So that's going on. And then, you know, in the background, like I say, I I know so many in my work, in my office. And I'm not a doctor, so, I mean, that kind of puts you in a situation there. But, you know, I mean, both in my practice and in my personal life, I'm in a recovery program. So most of the people that I know that are part of my social network are all in recovery. A lot of these people, you know, maybe they were 20 or 30 or something, they they quit all the bad behaviors, you know, with all the addictions and everything like that. And they're mostly healthy people. You know, the healthiest of the healthy because they don't smoke, they don't drink, they don't do drugs, they don't, you know, do any of that shit. And, you know, they're ending up with all kinds of if they don't die, they're ending up with a lot of illness, and the amount of people I know is just unbelievable that are going through that. And then, and then, of course, you know, the the gaslighting. You know, I I had two I had two people in particular. One person, a 20 year old, who after the second treatment, was, vomiting for four months every day, and they told him they went to the doctor. They did all these tests, and they said, oh, it's just your anxiety. I mean, are you out of your mind? I just, like, just go through the roof over that. And at the same time, it was his second treatment, and I had a lady up north that I knew way up, you know, in the interior of of my province who the same thing happened to her. She got the second one, and she vomited for four months. She ended up having to go off on off of work on short term disability. It took her, like, five months to get back to work. And, I'm sure you notice it. I mean, we probably you know, anybody that's really kinda paying attention knows that they've been targeting the old, the infirm, the, you know, Native American, the African American, the, you know, any any, you know, kind of these populations. Right? So, they're being targeted, for various different reasons. But also, of course, as we know, the, the the depopulation includes, sterilizing the ones that live. So, you know, you just see this matrix of of it. And, I mean, I think the thing is is I I kinda watch it all, and some people, they tell me, oh, this and that. And, I mean, I just try to ask them questions like, oh, when did that start happening? Oh, that started happening, like, last year in June. Oh, well, what was what was different in your life last year in June? Like, was there anything going on, anything different, unusual that happened in your life? You know? No. Nothing. You know? Meanwhile, maybe they went in for their third booster or whatever the hell. I don't know. But, you know, I think the thing is, like, you know, where I'm coming from and, I mean, I'm I've never signed up for the for the treatment. Thank god. I only had one when I was a kid. My I don't remember which one it was, but me and my brothers my my mom got us all done. And I got my brothers were fine, but I got sick for quite a long time. Like, I went back to being, like, a baby. Like, I was couldn't do anything. I was just a a blob that breathed and cried and peed my, you know, bed diaper or whatever. So, she never took us for any after that, and I did get a few of my younger adult life, but I haven't had any for, you know, whatever. I think I had two flu shots back in the nineteen nineties where the two the two years I got it, I was so sick those two years, I never ever got it again. And, anyway, so that when this came along, I was actually in Milan in, December. Well, actually not December, but in the, 2019, and I was very sick there. And I actually think I had this supposed thing they called, you know what, CV. But, anyway, when I came back and I was listening to all this for a lot of different reasons, I I just I just there was nothing made sense. You know, from one day to the next, the message changed so much. And then just sort of witnessing so many people that I know that are affected and all these people in recovery, like I they're all all the women I know, a lot a ton of women that I know all have skin problems, period problems. Like, they're just having all kinds of problems. Guys are having problems, with various different things, lots of lots of skin disorders, you know, heart disorders, erectile dysfunction with men that they can't even yeah. They just can't even perform anymore. I mean, all all of these just horrible things I'm hearing about. And, like, nobody I can't believe that nobody, like, can, like, you know, follow the dots. You know? Like, if this was, one of those stupid little things where you follow the dots and you make a picture, like, how can they not follow the dots and make the picture of what's going on here? That that just astounds me still. But but I guess the thing is is that, you know, we are in I I I believe that we are in a war. And, you know, my thing is, well, how the hell are we gonna get out of this? Like, how how are we gonna stop this? Like, how is that gonna really get turned around? Like and we don't have you know, you know, a lot of people tell me, well, you know, they're gonna fail. They're never gonna win. Blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, yeah. But you know what? I don't think we could just sit around and think, oh, they're never gonna win and expect that they're not gonna win. Like, we what what do we need to do? And when you've got everything's bought, you know, your government, your police, your judge, your I mean, everybody. The you know, when every everything is bought bought off like this, I mean, I don't know how we're gonna stop it, but I just think, like I guess that's where my head's at is how do we stop it and, you know, informing people that don't wanna be informed and don't wanna know. I mean, that that's a barrier right there. I was reading The Art of War and The Art of War. If you just read the first chapter, it tells you everything that's been going on for the last sixty years, eighty years, or whatever. Well, it's probably been going on for centuries, really. But, you know, in our existence, for sure, it's been going on, you know, since the fifties and sixties. I mean, John f Kennedy. What was his name? There's a guy. He started the red pill something. I forget his name. There's a number of people that were talking about the communism and the whatever was going on. Way back in the sixties, they were talking about this takeover, and that was happening, and nobody would listen to them. You know? Even David Icke. I mean, all these people were talking about it. Nobody ever believed any of them, and it's just proceeded. And it's just it I say they're like cockroaches. They just they're everywhere, and they won't go away. But you know what? We need something a little more than a roach killer to get rid of these, you know, these whatever monsters. And, like, I think the first thing is as a woman when I did my PhD, there was a a book I read by a a really cool, under under recognized philosopher, wrote a book called, The Sovereignty of Good, and she said clear vision commands right action. And I've been thinking about that a lot because, I mean, you know, you can you you can't you can't make people see what they don't wanna see. You can tell them what's going on, but if they don't wanna see it, they're not gonna see it. But then how many people are colluding that they see, they know, and they think that what they're doing is good? Like, they know what's going on, and they think they're they think they're totally like, they're they think they're good people. They're gonna save the planet, you know, while they kill how many of us. I don't know. And so I've I've been really thinking a lot about that clear vision commands, right, action. Well, does it? And, I mean, she's a smart woman and everything else, but I'm really challenging that. And I'm like, well, it might only make a difference to the true like, you have to you have to be really connected to your own humanity to really see the truth and act as a human. Because what does it mean to be human? You know? And it's only in our humanity. It's only our human it's our humanity that is fighting this war, and it's our humanity that they're trying to destroy with everything that they're doing, the transhumanism, everything. They don't wanna just kill our bodies. They wanna kill our mind, our body, our soul. They wanna kill it all. So if we aren't dead, you know, they wanna chip us and everything else. That's the transhuman. And, like, it's only in our humanity that, you know, and it's only in being connected to our humanity, I think. It's and and the people that I I mean, I am inspired by all the amazing beautiful people that in their humanity, they see clearly what's going on. And no matter what, they will stand, and they will say whatever. You know? This is wrong. This is not good. This is what's happening. Wake up. Blah blah blah. Whatever. David Icke. I mean, we could think whatever we want about David Icke, but, actually, I mean, you know, he's been telling the truth for a very, very long time, and, nobody would listen. And now most everything he said is coming true. And, some people say he's deep state. I don't really know if he is or not, but, but he's been trying to warn us for a long time. But the thing is now where we are, knowing what we know, seeing what we see, if we really, you know, clearly see what's going on, what is our duty now besides simply telling other people? I think it goes further than that. I think we need to go a lot further than that. And not that I have an answer because I don't really have an answer. I'm a I say I'm a little old lady in my little my little neighborhood. Not little old lady in Pasadena, a little old lady somewhere else. And, you know, I use TikTok, my little moniker. Under my little moniker, I use TikTok and and, you know, Twitter, you know, to express yeah. To to at least facilitate this process of getting clear vision about what's going on. But, I don't know. Like, I think you know? And and, certainly, there's lots of things going on, but I think that they've had way more time to develop their structure and, you know, every aspect of the, you know, throwing everything at us but the kitchen sink, routine to achieve their goal. And we're kind of you know, I think we were caught a lot of people a lot of a lot of us were I mean, even I was to a large degree. I mean, I had some clues, but to a large degree, I think we were a lot of us pretty caught off guard for the most part to realize the real depth of this evil. And what's it gonna take? I I don't know if prayer I don't think prayer is enough. I mean, prayer is great and all that, but I I think that, you know, when the rubber hits the road, what are you gonna do? I I tell everybody. I said, listen. I I don't care. If I go down in flames, I'm going down with a pure soul, pure body. Right? Do whatever you're gonna do, but I'm I'm whatever way I'm going down, I'm still gonna go down with pure blood. You know? However however that sounds, that's my reality. Right? I don't care. They can do whatever they want. You know? I mean yeah. Okay. Do not comply. That's probably number one in terms of what we're gonna do. And number two is, you know, how do we get everybody else on board? Do not comply. You know? I I think that's the biggest thing. If we all stop if nobody complied, they'd never get away with it, I don't think. Would they? I don't know. Anyway, that's just me babbling a little bit. I'm I'm really inspired to be here with the group. I've never been on with this group. I hope I catch this again, or I don't know who runs it or whatever, but I really hope to come back here again. And, yeah. So I don't know. That's just a few of my thoughts, reflections, questions about the whole scenario. Right? Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Barbara. We're so glad to have you on tonight. If you haven't already, we would love for you to, go to chbmp.org and document your story. And, and if you're inclined, also join us. We have a network of volunteers, and we're trying to take action about all these things. Speaker 11: Okay. How where where's the, sorry. Where's the link or whatever? Can you send it to me or something so I can get it? You can find me on, if you can you can find me on, Twitter. If you can send me some kind of links or whatever to it, that'd be great. Speaker 1: Sure. We're we're following each other, so I will DM it to you after the space. Oh, okay. Fantastic. Speaker 11: Okay. Great. Thank you so much. And thank you again. Thanks again for hosting this. I'm just like, awesome. I can't believe I found you guys tonight. And just like We're so glad you did. Speaker 1: Thanks. And and you had a lot of good info. I think the reason most people are not connecting the dots is something you touched on briefly, but didn't really go into, which is we've also sustained the greatest propaganda and censorship campaigns ever witnessed in human history. So of why people are not they can't even see the dots, still yet connect them. Speaker 11: Yep. Yeah. Exactly. Speaker 1: So that's why we're trying to shine lights on those dots and, make people aware of what's going on. We do have a few hands up. I don't know if you guys have questions for Barbara, Turbo, and then T Bird. Speaker 27: Go to I was gonna say I, John, I I dig your I dig the way you think, and I I I agree with everything you say. I am optimistic. I am more active now than I ever have been. Now am I doing enough? No. But I'm inspired, and I think I think the more people I think it people can't people won't be deceived. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Now how long some of these people will never wanna see it, and that's okay. And then hopefully, they don't lose their father like I did. But, you know, at that point, I think we've been deceived for two thousand years. But I also think that it's growing, baby. I don't think it can stop. And I I I really believe that. And I and I don't think I'm not a foolish optimist. I just think because of it because I get to hear you and I'm not in Canada, But I got to hear you tonight. I'm like, man, you got you got some really cool thoughts. Look. And and I'm not afraid to look at any idea. And this has been a new awakening since my dad died in the depression and every other damn thing that comes along when being a murder victim. Right? So Mhmm. And again, this but to feel a part of a group and I get I met several of these folks last week, and I I feel so inspired by it. So, again, I just think I think yeah. Can we do more? Absolutely. But, and and again, we have been lied to. We've been deceived. I think we God's light's been hidden from us. But Mhmm. Going forward, love and light, baby. That's the only way forward. Right? And and I really believe it. I I did it that's the only way. It can't we can't keep doing what we've been doing. We can't, and we see it now. Again, and maybe a minority of us see it, but at least somebody sees it. Hell, if they hadn't pushed so hard, we wouldn't know it now. I mean, you wanna talk about progress five years ago. Right? I mean, would you believe five years ago today, what you're talking about the shit we're talking about today? Mhmm. No. I was my head was down. I was working. My dad was alive. Life is grand. Right? Mhmm. Mhmm. You know? So I think there's something to be said. I think we're on the right path. So just keep your head up. Speaker 11: Right on. Thank you. Speaker 27: Alright, you guys. I'm going to bed. I love y'all. You guys kept me up too late. Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on and staying on as long as you did. We appreciate it. See you next week. Yes, ma'am. Talk to y'all soon. Alright. T bird and then lone wolf oh, sorry. Lone traveler. Go ahead. Speaker 19: Hey. Always a great space. It was great to hear everyone speak, including Turbo. Albert, I admire everything you do. It's so important what you're doing, the redactions that are happening. Patriot doing his research on the the influenzas and the COVIDs. And there's just so many incredible speakers in here tonight. It blows my mind every time. It's hard sometimes when I hear you guys talk about your loved one or, like, none of us we we've been going through it now for, well, probably three years this May, and, you know, I don't wanna be that statistic. I don't wanna be the statistic that's on the other side, you know, when you look about 1918 and this and you just saw numbers with that and exactly what Turo was saying, the propaganda that shoved down your throat. And there I've been through really emotional on these spaces. Sometimes I've had breakdowns, like but I'm as much as I'm sicker than I've ever been, I'm stronger than I'll ever be. And, I want the reason I'm speaking right now, I've said it last night in the space that, just our small little group of girls talk a lot. And this is still happening, and this is where it becomes really real for me. And I'm just sharing this not because of how severely disabled I am now because of the three Pfizers, but, you know, I have legal cases pending, and I'm a Canadian too. I'm going at it by myself. I'm a single mom. I'm on disability. I didn't have income for well over a year. I have no support. And, you know, they did tear us apart. So as sick as I still am, I don't have any family to support me. So when I go to these appointments, like many of us who are disabled or you don't have to be, you know, it's not a competition. I'll say that all the time. You could get one vaccine and and die. You could get one vaccine and be mildly injured or severely. Who's that? There's no continuum to to debate who's we we are we've all been poisoned at the end of the day. So Uh-huh. My point is, I go to the Heart Institute last Thursday. I'm telling you this raw because it's really important for me. I'm all alone. And I go in super calm because I'm thinking they're finally gonna help me, or I'm gonna ask for this pet skin, or I'm gonna ask because I'm learning from the Americans and everyone else around the world, because Canada sucks when it comes to helping each other, teaching each other, having the equipment, having the treatments. We don't have anything. And when you ask for it, they don't want you to say the word. They don't wanna look at you. They don't wanna see you. They put you off to another doctor. And I I love these spaces because that's the only reason I'm still alive today. It's not because of anything I'm taking. It's not any supplement I'm taking. It's God's will, I guess, or I don't know. I'm just an asshole. God doesn't want me yet. But what I wanna tell you is I posted it on my page, and no one needs to go look. That's not why I'm saying it. I started taking pictures because I didn't trust them. I'm all by myself, and I'm hooked up to the wall at the Heart Institute of Canada. Right? It's not just some some country hospital, And I'm seeing my third cardiologist. What 49 year old has three cardiologists when I was perfectly healthy? So here's the key. I I look at the first one. One seventy eight, my blood pressure. Now I I need you guys to understand. I'm as much as I talk a lot in these spaces, but when you're in that situation, you're trying to be respectful of the doctor. It's hard to stand up for yourself because we don't pay our doctors here. They will just quit on you. We don't have a choice. We have to suck up to them. There are no doctors, number one. But the ones that don't want anything to do with you, we're really pigeonholed. So they take my blood pressure. They sit me in a chair, nice and calm. I got a pillow under my arm. I'm listening to, like, Lindsay House's space. I'm, you you know, joking with some of the girls. I'm just there for my blood pressures, and they're gonna help me, hopefully. So I look up at the wall and I start taking pictures. And my blood pressure was a 171 over a 139. That was the fifth one they took. A 163 over a 143, that was the fourth one they took. I just posted a few of them live on that day. It gets worse. So I'm on three beta blockers. I'm on, like, I'm on heart meds and diuretics, And I'm five foot three. I'm not overweight. I'm why should why am I on heart meds and why am I on water pills to get rid of the excess fluid that's you can hear it. It's in my lungs. I'm not sick. I just have so much fluid that I can't get rid of. K. That's how high my blood everyone who knows this, one twenty over 80 is your normal. But when you're on that level of heart medication in the Heart Institute and your blood pressure's a 163 over a 143, and they dismissed me. They said I had white coat. You know? So white coat is if no one knows this. I'm I'm also an RN for over twenty five years. I was a trauma nurse. I've done it all. This is I I'm not nervous. I'm, like, I'm sitting there chilling out. They try to tell me it's just because it's white coat. They're gonna dismiss these blood pressures. Six sitting down, two standing up. The nurse comes in. She goes, I I don't believe that bottom number, a 143. I said, that's my normal. That is my new normal. I'm in heart failure. Like, I'm so tired all the time. So it gets better. This is why I wanna tell everyone. We can't keep talking like it's the past. I can't keep talking about my inner injury. You know, I talk to Sean all the time with her daughter, Auburn. Everyone's trying to move forward. We can't forget those who have died or mer been murdered. Sorry. Never wanna ever dismiss anyone's story. I'm sorry I'm rambling. Take pictures of everything. Go with your loved one even if you're mad at them and and be a witness for everything. They're still doing it to us today. They want us dead. I don't understand it. Like, the doctors all seem nice to your face. What I wanna tell you is I got the report. That's the other cool thing I wanna remind you too. Take pictures of everything, every little thing. What do you look like when you go in that day? What what what kind of vital signs are you able to take pictures of? Record the visit. So I forgot to do that because I was busy listening to a space and taking pictures at the same time. But, I get the report two days later from the cardiologist. It says that patient is reassured with her blood pressures at home. We did not take any vital signs at this visit. What else did it say? Oh, yeah. Patient is, COVID vaccine injured after so that that's good that he wrote that. But the fact that he wrote that he didn't even take any vital signs and that, oh, that patient says she has white coat syndrome. Lie. So at the end of it, I'm I'm getting madder right as I'm reading it. I'm like, this is all lies. I can't and it's typed. This is a transcribed message of my visit, which is a lie. And then it says they didn't take the vitals. Well, guess what the nurse did? She put the vitals in in this big red box that's all flagged with big the explanation marks next to each reading. And he's screwed now because they did take my vitals, and they did nothing. They sent me home and and write in the report. It says, patient advised to go back to her general practitioner. My general practitioner doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's a kid. But what I wanna tell you is read your reports. Every you go after your reports and you print them off immediately in case they change them, and keep a record of everything. Question everything. Save save your reports. Save your pictures, and just just keep doing it. That's I'm sorry I rambled there, but it's really important because this is still happening. They got away with it. They didn't get away with it because you guys were catching them, but I just I just wanted to share that. Thank you for listening. I'm sorry I went on too long there. Speaker 1: Good. Did not go on too long. Thank you so much for sharing that, Tipper. And we're all we're all just so devastated for you and and hoping for the best, and I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Speaker 7: Yeah. Thank you for, thank you, Tibor. I I think, you just, reminder that, the fight, is just starting. It's not ending. It's not in the middle. They will keep on doing this to all of us no matter, we took the vaccine or not. So everyone should understand that. And, if we don't put, end to this right now, that, there will be low ending to the, to the killing and damaging to our health. So, you know, a lot of people probably feel like duped that, you know, by those evil people, but we have to, you know, remind everybody that, it's not just, they use propaganda machine to, lie to us. They also, put the drug into the water, like, fluoride in the water and also in the air, in the food. They put a synthetic, valine in the food. So none and also the the high fructose, high fructose corn syrup, that kind of stuff, in our food. So all this then actually, you know, hindered us, in our thinking. So it's, you know, don't don't make it so hard on yourself and, just understand, what they're doing to us, and, we have to keep fighting and, you know, try our best. We cannot stop until all these people, you know, did all the things to us, get the what they deserve. We have to push for justice. That's what we need to do for you know, from this point on. We cannot stop fighting. Thank you all. You know, good luck to everybody. Speaker 1: Absolutely. And we will not stop fighting, until we end this. And and I think we will. If you listen to our founder, he thinks we're making really good progress and says he couldn't have imagined two years ago that we would be where we are now because we're just we're kicking so much ass. And and, really, they are losing. This is a losing battle for those who have staged this on us. Patriot Politics Research. Go ahead. Speaker 25: Thank you. Thank you. I just wanted this is gonna be real short. There is hope. Obviously, we can see the political dynamics change. People that were never for Trump are saying that they are going to vote for Trump. And, for whenever, someone was speaking earlier and when they were saying, like, how are we gonna change all this? Well, Obama's executive order is law, so that is the only person that can revoke that law would be the next president. So, unfortunately, this antibiotic stewardship program that our congress continues to fund and that is connected to the WHO's One World, One Health, initiative, basically to make everything cookie cutter, protocols for each specific disease and to restrict antibiotics for anything. So there's so many different viral infections that develop into pneumonia infections if they're not treated. So as long as the world is continuing with these antibiotic stewardship protocols by restricting access to people that just like how the physician said earlier, that it's money. The the program is to cost, to save money for the hospitals by allowing patients to die instead of treating them and then getting, reimbursement through CMS and Medicare. So as long as this protocols are still in place, this type of regardless disease x, just like I said measles, SARS one, MRSA, all these things can develop into pneumonia infections. And if we could take all the prophylactics, but if we don't have the antibiotics to treat that bacterial pneumonia infection, then everyone's gonna be in the same boat as the million other Americans like my mom and my mother-in-law were. So I don't want to say that we have to wait it out, but we have to wait it out because the only person that can change that Obama law would be president Trump. Obviously, we know Biden wouldn't do anything like that. So, unfortunately, we have to wait till January 2025 for any change physical change to end this medical tyranny. But at the same time, I didn't know about this group probably about two, three weeks ago, and this has been a life, life changing event for me to find other people in the same boat as us, you know. And everyone, I you know, my heart goes to out to everybody. And and it's amazing to hear everyone's experiences, their, their background, and how everyone's, like, taking a certain protocol that can help them here and sharing it. I you know, like, for me, I like I said, I wasn't aware of this group. So this is, you know, like, a positive, influence in my life, almost like a little bit therapy session to share with every one of you, and then also to share my research as well. And I think as as every day continues to grow, I think I see I start to seeing more newer faces in this in these spaces or more people talking out, you know. And the only thing I got sad about the physicians, this is what I'm gonna say, like, you could tell, like, they've been indoctrinated about antibiotics because why wouldn't you want to, like, proactively prescribe an antibiotic just in case that viral infection turned bacterial. Why wait for that to happen and then treat the the bacterial infection? I think we're all adults and we can tell, like, you know, like, don't just pop pills just for the sake of popping pills. You know, if the antiviral prophylactic doesn't work, then you start to see your symptoms develop into something a little bit more harsh. I think we're all, you know, we know our bodies and how they work that we can go, well, maybe it's time to pop this, start this antibiotic treatment. You know? Why should we wait? And that's another thing that I I didn't want to out of respect for the physicians that were in the group, in the space earlier. How come they're not mad that this Obama law is restricting them and how they can practice medicine with their own patients? That's that's something like they they seem to glaze over that. It's like, you know, I would be so pissed if someone said, you know, you can't do this in your job or something. You know? Like, you you have to because the antibiotic stewardship was you had to get a prior authorization, and I worked in specialty pharmacy. So, like, step therapy, like, a lot of everybody who takes medications know that if you go to a rheumatologist, you can't just go to Humira or Enbrel. The biologics, you have to do Plaquenil, which is like HCQ. And then you go to methotrexate. And then after methotrexate fails, you go to Humira. If Humira fails, then you go to Enbrel, and the insurances control that. The pharmacy benefit manager plays a role in it, and then the doctor plays a role in it. You know, the doctor, if he cares, he could bypass all those step therapies and put enough effort to get that specific drug that you want or you feel that you that would make you better. But the insurances play a huge role in it, and it's money making business. And, you know, the only thing that can change is, like, when we get a new president that will have new people that aren't part of the swamp, and I believe the two point o administration will because he he wants to dismantle the CIA, which has been a huge problem for our government since the inception of the CIA and World War, after the OSS in World War two. But I think that's the solution. But at the same time, we should stay positive because I've never I'm so so much more happier that I found people like you, and we can share our experiences and our wisdom and our research together. So that's all I wanna say. Thank you so much, and I'm gonna continue to listen. I hope everyone has a wonderful night. Speaker 1: Thank you so much for all of that. That was just so well said, and we're so glad that we're working with you too. You said we have to wait for a shift in power, but we do not have to wait idle. And that is you know, we are right now, we are all working just as hard as we can twenty four seven to compile this evidence. And when if there is a shift in power and, you know, somebody is willing to take action on these items, we've already done all of this legwork. We have over a thousand stories, and all of these together, they constitute a clear pattern pattern of action. There is no absolutely no doubt when you listen to a thousand of these stories and the commonalities between each of them that you can walk away and say this didn't happen. So they can try to say it's rare, but that's why we have to keep working to document more and more and more stories. So, I want to go to Miriam and then Barbara and then Loan and then Dwayne. Speaker 14: Okay. Hi, everyone. Just wanted to point out something a little bit. I'm gonna put an article in the chat. I know that we were talking about how this is a bigger issue, and it is, a coordinated effort on the part of the supranational organizations to include, World Economic Forum, the WHO, the UN. I recently wrote an article for Substack on the fourteenth. Basically, it's very sickening, but, basically, what's happening is the, oh, what am I trying to think of? The true purpose of they're now talking about getting financial assistance, for providing financial assistance so that there's equitable distribution of the vaccines and other pandemic related products. I'm quoting exactly. And it's basically, they're saying that there needs to be equitable distribution of poisons to equitably depopulate rich and poor nations alike, which is kind of crazy. James Roguski wrote about it. He's constantly writing about the international health regulations, and the seventy seventh, World Health Assembly is coming in May to basically enact the the, health regulations for the entire world where so that the pandemic, pandemic, let's use that word, pandemic is coordinated, and the response is coordinated worldwide. So, and like I said, one of the phrases in the international health regulations is that the response needs to be equitable and that first world countries need to provide financial assistance so that the poor nations can get the, quote, pandemic related products, aka the mRNA vaccines. So when I post this, there's a lot of information at the top. Basically, they pulled out he's pulled out all the different articles, showing some of the poor nations, what they're trying to do with them, like in Bangladesh. I can't say oh, well. Anyway, Bang Bangdalesh, I think that's how you say it, and some of the other nations. But if you scroll down in that same article, you'll see they've got the calendar for what they're planning for February, March, April, and May for the World Health Assembly. And if you keep scrolling down past his information, I wanted to call your attention to this part because it is a long article. But inside of the article underneath all of his the international health regulation information, you will also see that I put in a section that talks about something called the global vaccine action plan. I don't know if anybody's seen it, but it is listed on the World Health Organization's website. And, it's not for your health, but and it's, it is basically pushing the, UN agenda of the decade of vaccines. And, basically, you can read it, but it's basically talking about everything that they're recommending for the entire decade from 2020 to 2030. Also, you will see that it that the GVAP, which is the global vaccine action plan, supports the implementation of agenda 2030, which is a UN agenda. And they call it a strategy to leave no one behind, meaning to get the whole world truly vaccinated. Bill Gates talked about that as well. One of the interesting things on one of their schematics is I I love how they say this. Build and sustain healthy markets. So they're using the word market. So here here's the, you know, financial aspect of it across all antigens at the global level. I'm quoting here. Okay? And then they want immunization programs across all countries to achieve universal coverage. I'm reading directly from my article right now. And what basically, what they're doing is they're saying that it's going to require a quote, and I'm quoting political commitment to make this happen. So it's political, financial, okay, this this global immunization program. Then the last thing I wanted to say is they use the word in the next scheme schematic. They want they switched the verbiage to say that it's, quote, universal health coverage. You and I both know that this is not for health. Okay? So, basically, it goes on to mention what's called the one world, one health program. I think one of our speakers early talked about the one health program. If you read this sub sec, you will see the link where you can go and see where they describe what their one health program is, and they call it a one health it's a u integrated, unified, program designed to respond to, these are their words, global health threats, such as the COVID nineteen pandemic. So the the entire test run of the COVID nineteen pandemic is providing the foundation for their one health program for the global vaccine action plan. And then the final cap to this whole description is one health is also integrated and unifying, and it's unified via the global digital health certification network. All these that I've described are the are World Health Organization program plans. Okay? It's all on their website. Inside the article, you'll find all of the links. And it literally is talking about, and I'm quoting again, who is implementing an onboarding process to establish technical and governance procedures to produce public keys that can be used to verify that digitally signed health credentials, immunization cards, vaccine passports are issued by a recognized authority in the global digital health certification network. So they already have all this infrastructure in place. So at the end of this article, I just want you to know it's not all gloom and doom. There's some things listed on the article that I've put in there, actions that you can take that are practical actions at the local level to preserve your own health, such as refusing to take any more COVID shots or any shots in the global vaccine action plan, refusing to take any of the coming 81 mRNA vaccines. That is on the government website for, why can I not ever think of it when I'm trying to think of it? Basically, there's a government website for, all these studies, the investigational studies that they're doing, for the 81 vaccines. It is in the article as well. Not complying with any future public health emergency directives, supporting local parallel economies in your community, for local non GMO organic food, networking with local sources, water, heat, power. So you're not dependent on public or governmental sources for any of those things that are critical for survival or for universal basic income because, getting healthy now, and having personal immune health strategies, keeping yourself healthy is the key to where they cannot victimize you with whatever disease x or whatever crisis they have coming. Plant and garden. Help protect yourself by knowing the truth, and we've talked about this tonight about all the harm and the evidence of harm that continues with with the COVID viral bioweapon, the HHS subsidized remdesivir death standard of care protocols, the COVID shots, and the planned future onset of at least 81 mRNA shots. I've got all the links in the article. I'm gonna post it. But like I said, be sure that you scroll down to the bottom because that's where all the information that I just quoted to you is. Above that is James Raguseki's, information about how they're trying to manipulate the first world countries into funding the pandemic related products for the poor countries. So they wanna spread the misery, I'm sure. So thanks very much, and thanks for letting me speak. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Miriam. Charm go ahead. Speaker 11: Hello. Wow. It's just, there's so many things that come up when you're listening. It's just like, oh my god. It's just, you know, it's it gets kind of overwhelming at times. But, a couple of things that I was thinking about. First of all, like, the the doctors, why are the doctors going along with that? Well, I mean, the thing is is that, you know, they one of the things that I I observed, I I'm gonna write about this sometime, is, how they they play they they they strum the weakest they strum the weakest, you know, on a guitar, you know, you have six strings or whatever. It's like if we all had strings, they find the weakest one, and that's the one they play. So, you know, they they play to people's egos. We have people who are in leadership roles that are just, you know, like, literally, they're, you know, a clown, a second rate you know, Canada, we have a second rate, you know, grade two teacher, pedophile, whatever, probably has some kind of mental health thing going on. And they play to his ego, his greed, his selfishness, his lack of humanity. That's how they get him to do what they want him to do aside from maybe I say we live in an era of blackmail, bullying, and bribery. But, you know, and and all of the people that are put in these leadership roles, even the young not just the young global leaders, but the young global shapers, they get these young people who had really they're just nobodies. And, I did listen to somebody give an interesting speech about how all these these families that are at the top of the heap kinda thing, they pick the dumbest, stupidest people in their family, and they put them out front. And they get to be the puppets. And the thing about a puppet show is that it doesn't matter if you boo or you yay. It's whoever gets the most noise is the best best puppet of the day. So that's why Trudeau can stand up there. He doesn't give a shit if people say something good or something bad as long as they're paying attention to him. That's all he wants. Just pay attention to me. I'll I'll put on the good puppet show while all this you know, in the background, we're gonna do all this stuff to you that you don't even know what's going on. So, you know, I mean, that's just kind of, that's the distract distract and divide with a puppet show routine. Right? And and I said, you know, in Rome, you know, as Rome was falling, what were they doing? They were having the games. The games were on while the while Rome was falling. You know? But, one thing, about the health and somebody reminded me that, the nurse I don't know. I can't remember which one she is, but she was spoken. I was glad she spoke. You know, I even though I'm a health professional, I don't feel comfortable going to a health professor. Like, I have gallstones. They wanted to they wanted to cut my gallbladder out. I said, no. Thank you. I had, I have swollen ankles, and they said, oh, your veins are shot. We gotta cut out your veins out of your legs. We gotta just strip them out. I said, no. Thank you. They they just wanna you know, they get all scissor happy with wanting to cut out parts of me, and I'm just like, no. I'm not doing that. But who do I go to to actually solve these problems? Because I'm not going to them. I won't even walk into one of those places. So that's a big problem. And the other thing is some of you may or may not know, almost all I I think pretty well all injections that they're using medically, for humans, and I think it's going to animals. If they haven't done it already, it's all coming. All of them have graphene in them. Everything. There's, the doctors, what's his name? Doctor Regaldo. I think it's Regaldo from La Quinta Columna. They tested every vaccine, every anesthetic, like, all these kinds of things that they use in medical. Every one of them had graphene in them. Every single thing. They're even they're using it in anesthetics that you get for dental. They're using it for shots you get in your eye if you need, you know, the eye shots. Any anything. Any any injectable, anything that they're giving you, it has graphene in it. So I don't know if people know that or not, but that's very that's a little scary to me. So, I mean, you know, honestly, we can't as somebody did say, you know, we can't trust any product they they wanna give us. Like, I I don't want any shots. Thank you very much. If anything, I don't care what it is. You know, I won't even if I go in for an eye exam, I would not let them put that goddamn stuff in your eye supposedly to inspect your eye for whatever. It's like, thanks, but no thanks. Just, you know, give me the give me the exam, the external exam. I'm not I don't want any liquid in my eye. Thank you very much. So that's just one issue, the graphene. Another issue, of course, we know the money trail that they they they take they they draw upon people's worst qualities and expand that. And that the greed part is, you know, the money. But, I mean, of course, the thing about that is that all these people that are just kinda go along with that, to me, like, it's just like the second World War, you know, when these when these people supposedly you know, these people would, carry the bodies to the ovens or burn the bodies in the ovens or whatever stuff they were doing, they thought they might be saved. Well, some of them live long enough to be, you know, because, you know, second world world world war ended one day, and some of them did live. But that that was almost like a that was almost like a, you know, just a stroke of luck because any day they could have been on the one going in the oven. So, I mean, these people think, like, whether how conscious they are of what they're doing, I mean, all they know is about the money. And every maid, they get money. Every every time they put that ventilator, they get money. Anytime remdesivir, they get money. Anytime they did a COVID vaccine or a COVID death or a COVID just a COVID test or whatever, they got money, money, money, money, money. So they're all getting rich on that. So, I mean, it's it's really, you know, just the deepest you know, the corruption the the grossness of it is just it's it's makes your skin crawl. So, anyway, that's there's that. And then, the other thing so this thing about, so Uval Noah Harari says that, you know, they're gonna basically they wanna dehumanize humans by, you know, injecting the chip into us and, you know, turn us into Borg and all this kind of stuff. The transhuman agenda. I mean, the transhuman agenda is also part of the genocide agenda, you know, the depopulation agenda. Because when you turn us into Borg, you know, what is it that we're losing? You know, they only want 500,000 of these supposed Borgie, you know, chipped things on the planet, and the rest of us, they base basically want us all gone. But those, transhuman, I mean, they wanna remove the soul. They wanna remove the humanity. They wanna remove the spirit of the human. And and Yuval says it straight out. He says he says, freedom, there's no human rights. There's no human rights. God, there is no God. Like, all these things, you know, it's all he says it's all fantasy. And he basically threatened. He said, you know, anybody who doesn't go along with this is gonna we're gonna eliminate them. Pure. It's pure and simple. That's the way it is. And, so the transhumanism, the idea of destroying, you know, like, you know, what god has made, let no man put asunder. Well, no Uval Harr no Harari thinks he is God, and he could put it asunder. And he shall be the leader of the whatever, the transhuman world that they're creating, which is really nonhuman a nonhuman population. And, so I think when you put that in perspective, this idea that they only want 500,000,000. And all these people that are in the hospital doing whatever they're doing to you, they're they're not gonna be in that 500,000,000. You know? Anybody with brains, thoughts, resources, whatever, they're gonna be gone if if they have their way. That's how it's gonna fly. And if they if they if if even if they even if sort of we win, which I believe we will in the end, if and when we win, those of them that live will be the ones that will be on the other end of the stick. I mean, I heard I heard this great story. Somebody said it was some city in, France. They actually took a guillotine, and they rolled it right up to the office of the, the whatever. The municipality, you know, the the government, the local government. They actually rolled it right up to the front door. And apparently, a whole bunch of the, a whole bunch of the whatever they call them, the people that the municipality, the the the people that were running the municipality, whatever these I don't know what they call them, but, the municipal representatives or whatever, they all quit. And, I mean, that's the other side. Right? I was like, I laughed when I heard that. I'm like, oh, we need to be doing more of that. And then there was some country in Europe. I don't know where it was. I saw a video on TikTok where they went into the government buildings. Now, again, I don't know which which level of government, but they literally went in there, and they hauled out all of these government officials and literally threw them in dumpsters and rolled them down the street. I was like, okay. That's a good start. I mean, it's just kind of like, Speaker 1: It's that's true, though, that I saw that. But you said the Thank you. You exploit weaknesses. You said they exploit our weaknesses or our worst qualities. They're also exploiting our best impulses. Like, you don't wanna kill grandma, do you? Yeah. You Yeah. They're they're using our humanity against us. Speaker 11: Yep. They really are. You know? So, I mean yeah. So, anyway, I don't know. Those were a few more thoughts that I had. Some of it, yeah, I mean, my brother always says to me, he's just wonderful. He always says, listen. This is just like a really bad movie. And, you know, yes, not everybody's gonna make it through to the other side, but you gotta remember this is a movie. This is a this is, you know, this is a movie. Like, he says, they've already lost. They've already lost, and it's just gotta play out. It's like the last gasp, and they're gonna throw everything but the kitchen sink at us. Right? And and a lot of what's happening, you know, whether Elon Musk is a good guy or bad guy, doesn't matter what you think about him. Like, a lot of the, the coming out, like, I think it's also the come like, to whatever degree they let stuff be released. I mean, that's also part of the distraction. But on the other hand too, I mean, the control, you know, the control is the do they really have the control? There was an article I saw the other day. It said that, they can't control like, they want to control the way it all falls apart, but they're losing control of the way it all falls apart. You know? Because it's happening too it's happening faster than they wanted it to. And the faster it happens, the more people are gonna wake up and the quicker we're gonna be going after them. Right? So, anyway, just some other additional thoughts. Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Barbara. Thank you for those thoughts. I have DMed you a couple links, so check those out later. Loan, you've had your hand up for quite some time, and then Dwayne, and then we will go to Susan and Lizelle. And then we'll be wrapping it up. Speaker 7: Thank you. I just want to speak to, Patriot. You asked earlier about, why doctors are doing that, you know, kind of thing. You know? Why they are not, you know, pay attention or they didn't do much to the patient. I learned that fifteen years ago that, doctors, was forced to take the very big loan, like, student loan, and, also, most of them, take a big, mortgage as well. Also with, you know, very, you know, expensive cars. Everything is on the on the loan. So the system actually did to did this to them, have them get a big loan, bigger big debt so they had to follow the order. They had to follow all the procedures, the standard of, care. So, basically, this whole system forced them to do this, and then when they, you know, during the work they find out that, you know, something is not quite right. So some of the people will say something or do something and what happened to them? They will start to, lose their job. Fifteen years ago, one guy said he lost his job, and, two months later, somebody called him and say, you know, hey, we just want to talk to you and find out if you're okay or not. And, those guys told him that, normally, the doctor lost their job. They will kill themselves in probably two months because, they soon will find out that they cannot find any job that'll pay as much. And, they will start to lose their house, lose their car, lose their beautiful wife. That's why they are calling them to find out whether he's okay or not. That was I that was the, what I learned fifteen years ago. So I'm pretty sure the system got much worse today than that time. That's the reason why they're all doing this and, you know, that's what happened. So, you also mentioned about, waiting for Obamacare to change. I didn't catch, what exactly you're looking for, but I can tell you that, vitamin c is one thing for a lot of diseases. At least will help you, with whatever you have. And the choloidal silver is also can be used, like an, antibiotic. So those two things actually works wonders, to a lots of diseases. Maybe you should, look into it. One more thing I I just wanna say, to, Barb Barbara. You mentioned, David Ike earlier. What he said one thing, you know, is very profound. He said, we are many. They are few. The people in control Exactly. Yeah. The peep yeah. The people in control has a power. Their power was come from us. We gave our power to them, and, you know, we we give it to them so we can take that power back. When we take the power back, they don't know they don't even know how to make their own food. They have to use our creativity, use our power, you know, to control other people. So we need to understand this truth and start to take our own power back and say, low. That's how we change the world. We need to wake up. We need to have spiritual awakening. Know ourself. We need to do that. Thank you very much. Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's really what we're doing here, and I'm glad you can be here to, be part of it. Dwayne, we're glad to see you here tonight. Looking forward to what you have to say. Please take yourself off mute and go ahead. If you're still awake, I know you've been waiting for quite some time. Dwayne, are you still with us? All right, Dwayne. We'll come back to you. Maybe you'll wake up in a little bit. Susan, go ahead. And then Lizelle. Speaker 34: Oh, well, I just wanna share some information with Leah and with. Well, a lot of people use MMS, which is, Miracle Mineral Solutions, which is called, universal, antidote. And, yeah, well, it's it's sad. It can, it's for the spike proteins and parasite, blood clots, and then, all kinds of, the after the shot, injuries. So there, so you can look up, Jim Humble, protocols. This, there is a lot of information. I don't know whether you use the, Telegram or not. There is, Telegram, if you have questions or or wanna ask people, they share their experiences. So there's a lot of information. And, I also think that, the, doctor Brian Ardis talk about the, nicotine patch. Those are pretty, probably, pretty helpful too if, the, the injury is caused by the, venom. So I just wanna share this information. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. That sounded like some good information. We appreciate it. Lizelle, go ahead. Speaker 12: Hello, everyone. I just wanna quickly mention, about, I started at the organization, at the medical department. And, on my first day, they didn't have the desk ready for me. So I had to sit at the doc doctor's, desk who resigned. And, the desk was not cleaned properly and there were still email communication lying there. And, the doctors, with a resignation, the last email was said that, he he gave a oath to save people's lives. And not to kill them. So and I didn't know, you know, what was going on and I was trying to figure out. And, I can see the tension in the office that, you know, no one wants to talk about it or they're not allowed or I didn't know. It took me seven years. Seven years after that incident that I found out what that was. There was a change that was made in the medical law. They work with, coding. So if you're going to a doctor and and you get diagnosed, you get your medicine, that slip you've got that you have to submit to the insurance got ICD 10 codes on it. Now from my understanding, in our hospitals, they work with ICD nine. And, they've added a, a death code there. The number is ICD, 9Dash78. And, they removed it on the on the, public Internet, and they've placed it, inside, the archive. I don't know how the Internet works, but you can find it in in the archive library of the Internet. So pages that were removed. Because they're hiding this. Because people started talking about it and, ja, I think that's the reason why. But that a code said, death by guillotine. So me as a believer in Jesus Christ the Bible is true. Because it says there, my people will be beheaded. And they gonna use guillotine and they gonna use it in the hospitals. And, that's all I wanted to share. Speaker 1: Thank you for those interesting thoughts. Dwayne, are you with us? If so, take yourself off mic. If Dwayne is still away, we will go to Patriot Politics Research. And then I think I saw a request, but I don't see it now. So, go ahead, Patriot Politics Research. Speaker 25: Yes. I'm just gonna reply to lone traveler one one one, our friend with the accent, Asian accent, I would believe. I I don't remember what you were saying. I don't think you might have gotten me confused with someone else. But, what you were talking about also triggered something that I wanted to share. As I worked in specialty pharmacies where was I going with that? Now I just forgot it. When I would talk to physicians, gastroenterologists, rheumatologists, oncologists, the reason why they're in institutions is because I remember visiting this one, gastro over here in Northwestern Indiana, And, he has a great sense of humor, and you could tell, like, where you've you understood the physician was stuck in the system and had no leeway out. And one lunch, he really opened up to me. He goes he goes, Mila, he goes, I was like, hey, doctor Auerbach. Why aren't you you're you're a great physician. I see your patients love you and everything. Your your your your office is always packed. You're filled with appointments. He goes he goes, Mila, I he goes, me and other physicians like me, we wish we could be independent, but I'm already $10,000 in the hole at the first day of the month before I even turn the light switch on. He goes, it's simply impossible for independent physicians to compete with large institutions. And that's where we get stuck in the system where these independent physicians that would love to have their own private practice to get out of the system to run their practice how they see fit are basically stifled by all of the financial burdens, not just including, like, the the the college intuition and the cars. That's that's personal choices if the if physician wants I know a lot of great physicians that live, like, remedial humble lives. They don't buy, like, Maseratis or anything. You know, those are those are natural humble physicians. But, you know, when the system is designed to prevent independent physicians from bucking the system, you know, that and that's a problem too that we're gonna have to address through congress in in the next administration because I think a overhaul of the entire medical industrial complex is gonna happen. It's just a matter of time. It's not if, it's when. So we're going in the right direction, and and I love listening to everybody. So I just wanna keep it short. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We're so grateful for that. Miriam, please go ahead. Speaker 14: Yeah. I think I found the code that the last in, individual was can't remember the individual's name was talking about the execution ICD nine code. I don't know if anybody's aware. I put it in the chat, but, those codes are actually who? The World Health Organization. So, if you look in the chat, you'll find the code that she was referring to. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Miriam, and I will pin that to the top of the nest if I can find it here. Speaker 11: Can I just add a comment? If you actually look online, there's, there's stuff about how many, how many, the how many, what do you call it, guillotines that the government has procured in so many years or whatever. I don't have it on hand, but there actually is that information is available online, how many they've been buying. So this isn't new news. Big buying guillotines these days is big business, so you gotta wonder what that's about. Speaker 14: Yeah. I read that somewhere as well. I also found a site where, it lists all of the FEMA camps that are going up all over The United States as well. So I'll try to find that and post it as well. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Does anybody else have a few words? Jenny, I know you didn't, really get a chance to speak tonight. Would you like to say a few words before we wrap up? Speaker 17: Yeah. Actually, I I would. So thanks for letting me speak. So I just wanted to, first of all, just share a little bit about my story as far as what happened to my mom. So my mom actually worked, at one of the hospitals here for nineteen years. Speaker 34: Oh, well, I just wanna say one thing. I posted the the, Telegram link for the MMS. So if people can research it up, there is a lot of information. That's all I wanna say. Thank you so much. Speaker 1: Okay. Thanks for that. Sorry about that, Jenny. Please continue. Speaker 17: No. That's okay. So, yes, my mom had worked at the hospital for nineteen years and had retired at the age of 65. And she, contracted COVID by from taking care of two of my sisters who had COVID. We took her to the hospital due to having low oxygen. Did not know anything about remdesivir at the time. I honestly didn't know anything about it until after she passed, and I, obtained her medical records and started reading through them. And so, you know, I have made it my mission to, you know, share her story, to raise awareness, and to also let everybody know who is on here that they are not alone. They are not crazy if they think that this didn't happen to anybody else. Just to also point out that if you guys have not, shared your story on our website, please do so. Chbmp.org. This is an amazing organization, that I found in March 2023. And, we have several different types of support groups that go on just about every day of the week. And, so you guys, again, if you guys have never heard of our group, I highly recommend that you visit our website and, just fill out the form to to schedule an interview. And, also, real quickly, I just wanted to say that I did meet with someone who is a, unfortunately, a new victim. She lost her mom in a Houston, Texas hospital. She and I met for dinner last night. She did share her mom's horrific story with me, and I sent her the 25 commonalities and asked her to read through them and see just how, again, common these things are because they do, you know, they they resonate with a lot of us because we all share the same thing. So, anyways, that's really all I wanted to share this evening. And I think if we don't have anybody else who wants to speak, then we can maybe close out for tonight. Speaker 1: Yep. I'm at 7%, so we better wrap up. Does anyone else have anything else they would like to add before we end it tonight? Well, I am so, so grateful for all of you coming and staying on so long. This space lasted six hours, and we heard so many amazing and horrifying stories, and I'm just so grateful to you for sharing those. And as Jenny said, please come to chbmp.org. Telling your story on our space is great, but documenting your story and making it part of our living archive so it is part of the public record is even better. So if you shared your story with us tonight and you haven't yet, please go to chbmp.org and, tell us as much or as little as you're comfortable sharing. There are only a few required fields, and then you will schedule an interview with one of our volunteers, and we will get all of those details on the record. So, we hope to see you there. Thank you so much for coming, and we'll see you next Saturday at 8PM eastern. Speaker 11: Good night. Thanks so much. Speaker 1: Thank you.