Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another CHBMP space. Please give us a few minutes to get situated, and then we'll get started. You may have noticed, x is being a little bit difficult tonight. It it closed the space just to see if it started it. So we'll have to give everyone a few minutes to find the new link and join us here. We're just waiting for our cohost to find the the new link. So give us a few minutes, and, then we'll get started. Bit of a comedy of errors. My computer was restarting. So I started it on the phone, and, of course, as soon as I started out on the phone, I swear I didn't touch a single thing. It just ended it as soon as I started it. So I created a new one and just gonna take everyone a few minutes to come on. Yvonne likes to keep things interesting for us. If, any of our state chairs wanna come up on mic while we're waiting for our cohort host to join us, please do. Otherwise, just please continue to be patient, and, we'll get started in a moment. Elon really needs to do something about that. This has happened a few times where I I quit starting it on my phone at all because don't want it to to end before it even begins. But, that is a a glitch where if you start a space on your phone, sometimes as soon as you hit start, it it auto stops it and says, your space is over. Would you like to view analytics? Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna repost it. Miriam. Miriam, I'm so glad to see you. I am sending cohost invite right now. Get that in a sec. I'm just reposting a link to space. Welcome, Miriam. How are you doing? I can't actually hear you, Miriam. Say something. I've resent that cohost link, Miriam. Okay. We're just full of excitement tonight. Miriam is having a hard time accepting Mike. She's gonna rejoin. I'm sure Gail is on her way right now. Miriam, I've sent you another cohost invite. Hopefully, you can get that one. Let me know. Thank you all for joining. Please bear with us while we, sort out some technical difficulties here, and then we'll get started. Sherry, glad to see you up on Speaker 2: Can you can you say something? Can I can I rescue you? Could we, you know, like, have a convo for a minute until we sort this thing out? Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I I really appreciate it. I don't know what's gone wrong here. Kind of a Murphy's Law evening on spaces. Everything that could go wrong has and we're just in the first five minutes. Gail, I'm glad to see you on our sent cohost. Speaker 3: What was that, Sherry? I was gonna say maybe I shouldn't have mentioned Anthony Fauci when I was sending, invites out today. Yeah. That's Speaker 2: Gail's in the middle of rebooting right now, so it's gonna be a second. So it's it's just gonna be that kinda evening, guys, and welcome to the, Phoebe show. And we'll see if we can sort this out and make it make it make sense. Chelsea, you've been really busy working on a lot of projects, and I'm gonna let you know right now I am not up to speed because I've been working on today's anniversary list, and it was very depressing. It was a very long list, or it is a very long list. So, I I think I pretty much got it under control now, but it is busy. Yeah. We are sadly right in the middle of the the dark winter Speaker 1: of suffering and death that our our administration wished on us years ago, and it happened every every year since. Speaker 2: Yep. Yep. They they, they predicted it. It's funny how they managed to make that, happen, just as they predicted. Not that not that I believe that anything untoward was going on or anything. Speaker 1: Oh, no. Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't wouldn't wanna hint that. You know? Oh, lord. I Gail is having some real problems this evening as well. It won't let her hook up here as a speaker or a cohost regardless of what, Speaker 1: technology she's using. Oh, what fun. I do see Miriam finally up on cohost. Miriam, can you can you talk now? Speaker 4: I sure can. That was, interesting experience. Yay. Speaker 2: Glad to hear from you tonight, Miriam. Thank you for saving me from trying to make small talk with Chelsea. Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you. It must be gonna be a good one because we sure are having a lot of problems getting it up and running. Speaker 2: Yeah. That seems to be that seems to be the warning of, oh, that topic looks a little bit touchy. Speaker 5: So Hey. Can y'all can y'all hear me? I hear you. Yes. Speaker 4: Yes. We made it. Speaker 1: And I've sent another cohost link to you, Gail, so hopefully you can see that. Oh, no. It's saying I already have two cohosts. Darn it. Oh, that's alright. I don't care. Speaker 5: Oh, I hate that. It's probably showing me as a cohost when I'm not, but I don't know. So welcome to our spaces. It's starting off to be kind of a it show. Speaker 1: Oh, everything that could have gone wrong has in the last five minutes. But now we're all here, and, and hopefully, everyone can hear us okay. Speaker 5: Yeah. I was like, I'm just gonna, I I was like, I'm just gonna reboot my computer, like, fifteen minutes ago. Right? I was like, I'm gonna reboot my computer just so it it it's all fresh and because it's been giving me a little bit of problem today. And then as soon as it Speaker 1: rebooted, it's like doing a firmware upgrade. It's doing I was like, what the hell? Not now. That's so funny. I had this similar problem where right before the space, I'm like, okay. My computer is acting a little funny. Let's restart. And then the battery died, and then it wouldn't restart. So I'm like, okay. I'll just open the space on my phone. And as soon as I opened it, it closed the space and said, here's your analytics. And I was like, no. Speaker 5: Yep. And then Angela and the grandkid the other the granddaughter showed up to pick up their little brother because he spent the night last night. So whoo. Oh, that's fun. It's been a spicy day. Yeah. So much fun. I I love there's nothing that makes your Saturday night better than a toddler meltdown. Anybody who's got little ones, man. Speaker 2: You have been such an angel this week. I don't know how you do it. I'm just I have no no patience anymore, so I don't know how you do it. Speaker 5: I mean okay. While we're gathering, I'm just gonna throw out Speaker 2: crazy stuff my grandkids said this week. Can I do that, guys? Oh, please do it because it was the little bit you told us, I thought was hysterical. Speaker 5: So the four year old, she says the craziest stuff sometimes. I don't even know where she gets it. But she said, I was explaining to her how it's she she pooped, and she was upset about it. I don't know why. I don't know why it was different than but I was explaining to her everybody poops, and even princesses, they poop. And she got really upset with me from that comment. She said, Nana, princesses do not poop. That's crazy. And then I, my sister was over, and I said I I needed her to step out of the room for five minutes. I said, can you go play in the living room for five minutes, Nana? We'll call you right back in. She goes, what? She she said, you want me to go into a room where there is a door, and on the other side of that door is outside where there could be stranger danger. She said, do you have she said, do you even know anything about stranger danger, Nana? She said, do you had you have you even ever had kids or have she goes, I bet you didn't even have kids before you had grandkids. Oh, crap. Thanks. And then the then she said, I like sleeping on pop pop. He's he's soft and comfy and squishy like a pop pop should be, but I don't like his nose because it makes noise, and it keeps me awake. So there you go. Out of the middle of the stairs. Subject. When she barged in on me and she she barged in on me, I was I told her I said, I'm Nana's going to take a shower. Sit here, watch your show, and I'll be right out. If there's an emergency, come get me. She comes barging in on me, and she said, Nana, oh my gosh. I did not expect you to be naked. I was just getting out of the shower because I did not expect you to be naked like a naked old lady would be naked. I was like, shut up. You're going home. I was like, oh, so it's been a week. These kids, the stuff that comes out of their mouth, they it it just never ends. It's the craziest stuff. Anybody who's got kids probably understands. If you've got if you've got any any little ones, man, you know, you never know what's coming out of their mouth. Take after their nana sometimes too. So welcome to our spaces, our crimes against humanity spaces. Feel like we would be remiss if we didn't talk about the potential a couple things actually in this in the in the COVID related crimes against humanity space. I I feel like we wouldn't be we would be remiss if we didn't talk about the rumors about the Fauci, the possible blanket, Speaker 1: pardons. I mean, we're on pardon watch. In fact, tonight, I would love it if everyone could know, when you're telling your story, tell us why you believe Fauci should not be up for consideration for this blanket preemptive pardon. Speaker 5: Yeah. You know, from I'm just gonna throw it out there for me. He should I don't know that he can be pardoned to be to begin with because the department he worked with, I I think it would fall under the military, but and because of the DOD's involvement in the COVID related crimes against humanity. However, he should not be pardoned because he orchestrated he or not only did he orchestrate it, but he he profited from the murder of people, and he knew he knew he I mean, if you put everything he's ever done aside from the AIDS, the things that he did, with killing people with AIDS and all of that muckety muck. He's always been he's always been a criminal, but he orchestrated it all. And and not only that, but, you know, when hydroxychloroquine was brought to the attention of him, which he knew, he knew from SARS one that hydroxychloroquine, you know, ended SARS one. Right? When he and Mike Pence were approached with it, they, got rid of the people who were pushing for it. Right? And they they both have blood on their hands when it comes to that and should not be pardoned. Speaker 2: I totally Speaker 5: Absolutely. Speaker 4: Hey. I totally agree. You know, the the institute itself has a study, and yet there's an NIH study that says that, hydroxychloroquine was the answer to SARS CoV one. So Mhmm. There there's no denying what he knew. There's no denying what he did. So absolutely no pardon for him. Speaker 5: Yeah. If anybody wants to speak, just, click your mic or click the little mic and request to speak. So yeah. Well, I Yeah. Speaker 2: One of the things that that I lean back on is his 04/29/2020 in the Oval Office sitting next to to Deborah Birx, the scarf queen, and announcing that remdesivir would become the standard of care simply because it had passed with flying colors. In theory, the, the the new clinical tests that were done that spring on COVID. We now know a lot more about those clinical tests. We also have been told repeatedly, that the the clinical trials were absolutely bogus, that they changed the the endpoint in the middle. They, obfuscated a lot of the details that were actually in the clinical trial. It was it was in the paperwork, but it wasn't. It was semiberied. And if you didn't know what you were reading, you wouldn't know what to look for. And he called remdesivir the standard of care. Well and then they lump that in with all the other protocols that we now know all build upon each other to create death without a doubt. So, he set the stage in my opinion. Speaker 4: He absolutely did. And for those of you who don't know, that study in particular, they did change the endpoint, and they manipulated it to say that if you read the details, they considered it to be a success because it it supposedly, statistically, and you we know we can make statistics say anything we want them to say, reduced hospital stays for those that didn't die by one day. So it had nothing to do with mortality, saving life, anything. It had everything to do with the statistical change of twenty four hours of length of stay. And the other thing is he already knew that Ebola, in the Ebola trials that fifty three percent of the recipients, died from remdesivir from kidney failure and organ failure. So he simply wanted to use up the stock that he had there that would had been shelved since then. And it's all about making money and achieving you know, running up the desk count so then you can scare people into an EUA vac quote Speaker 6: vaccine. Speaker 8: Yeah. And that's Was that stock expired, Miriam? I mean, wasn't that 2015 or 2014? Speaker 4: No. It was, that study was either 2017 or 2019. I'll have to I'll have to look that back up. But Speaker 2: yeah. Alright. Yep. Miriam, I think the question would be, when you're talking about him using up his stock, were were they using up the stock of product? Are you talking about his investments? No. I'm talking about the product. Okay. But they managed to but didn't he seems to me in the 2020, he and or Mike Pence made a deal so that The United States had first dib on all of the remdesivir being manufactured? Speaker 4: That does, click a spark in my brain. I believe that may be true. I'll have to go back and look that up, but I do know that, you know, he one of the reasons for making that choice was the fact that there was a stock of remdesivir available. And, you know, he he's not there about health. He's there about making money. So Yeah. And and and, you know, boosting the military's, boosting the appearance of death so that the military countermeasure, because that's what it is, it's not a vaccine, will be taken up because of the fear that's generated. Speaker 2: Right. And now as far as the age of the stock, to me, the majority of it was used up or created for the Ebola, trial. So that would have only been 2018 anyway. But, I'm sure they had quite a bit left over because they weren't able to complete that trial because it had a fifty three point one percent mortality rate in Ebola. It was the worst one they took to to the, what was it, the Republic Of The Congo. So, yeah, they had plenty left over because they obviously couldn't use the stuff that was killing too many people and they got called on it. Sometimes that doesn't happen in those third world countries. They're just able to just keep giving all kinds of poisons to the people and you never see any of the, you know, any of the real documentation on it. So until they get kicked out of the country. Yep. Speaker 8: So And how long is the stuff fresh? Speaker 4: I don't I I don't I don't know how they what the system is for that because, you know, I do know that even when you look at medications that are supposedly expired, if you speak to any pharmacist or anybody, in that field, they will tell you that there's nothing wrong with using it up to a year on many items past that, if not longer on some items. Speaker 2: And I would guess before we we have a speaker who wants to come up, but I will point out to anybody who's listening that doesn't know this. Remdesivir comes as a powdered product. It's reconstituted as it's added to the IV. So it's not like it's a liquid and they are shipping it in vials or something like that. It is a dried substance. That's right. Speaker 4: Right. And anything that's dried, it has a much longer shelf life as well. So I can't tell you what what the labeled shelf life of it is, but maybe I can do some research and find that out. Speaker 8: Who's the this just an academic argument anyway? Because toxic sludge is toxic sludge whether it's fresh or Right. Rotten and old. Speaker 5: Right. Whether it's that it's yeah. Toxic sludge, that's a good way to put it. So Hi. Can I Yeah? It's also light sensitive, by the way. Can I can I give my experience Speaker 9: from the other side of Atlantic? I'm calling from Portugal. Speaker 5: And I Go ahead, man. Speaker 9: Can I tell you my vision? Remdesivir and Midazilam was protocols from CDC and was exported for all over the world. All governments, followed followed that protocols, like it was all truth. Remdesivir with the with the ventilators, stops the the kidneys on the older people. And, if you know, there was no autopsies, and people were after die, it goes directly to the grave. So, my experience started four years ago. I was not wake up, but I was wake up in time to to to tell the truth, to to come to come to in the in Portugal. We are struggling with, with mainstream media till now. I'm from a a a little party, from from Portugal. I I went in politics to by by by by necessity to to expose, what's going on. So, this is all all programmed. OMES, Gavi from Bill Gates, and Bill and Melinda Gates are all connected with these pharmaceuticals. And, I know I don't know if all we here in this room, knows what's going on, after five years of this madness. I don't know if I know everything what's going on, but I think everything everything we it's so exposed in in in United States. I I I watch very much time, Newsmax. I don't know if you if you'll see Newsmax, but in Portugal, it's extremely difficult because we are very, very we are being very censored. And I tried, and I tried to come to Twitter to to make a wake up call to everyone. So that's my experience. I don't know what's your opinions, but I I I'm still listening. I followed Fulmich, who who start the investigation in in 2021. Now, the the Georgesko in Romania exposed everything that's going on, and now he won the elections, and all these things are all connected. Speaker 5: I don't know if you are Speaker 9: yeah. I don't know if you are sure of, what's going on in Romania, but, when when elections can be can can't be rigged, as they was in 2020 with Trump, and with Bolsonaro in 2022, now they are starting to rig elections elections in in in Georgia and in Romania. So the globalists are still striking. And, when the the the elections are not very equal, they started now with a with a a coup of states, and they read the elections by by the constitutional trial. So that's the time we are now, and we are still fighting. Speaker 1: Sounds very familiar. It's, parallel to everything we've experienced here down to the the media propaganda and the censorship. Absolutely crimes against humanity. And I'm I'm so glad you took the time to, come tonight and and share your story with us, Nuna. We'll go with Hippie Dippy and then Frank. Hippy, how are you doing tonight? You are muted. Okay. We'll come back to Hippy Dippy. How are you doing tonight, Frank? Speaker 10: Hey. I'm doing great. Thank you. Interesting question about one individual who may or may not be pardoned amongst the whole fishbowl of of people. In one sense, it may be a distraction so that we talk about this bullshit. I posted something that came out of the Fauci dossier and also was something that was kind of pinned up many, many years ago, of a number of people, which Fauci is one of, in terms of all these violations of US federal code. And these cover a labyrinth of, violations, interlocking directorates, the gain of function. You know, you get on the whole list. But one one thing I wanted to bring to the attention, because a week ago, I was at an event in Marshall, Virginia. Chris and Debbie Cloud put this, event on every Saturday, the last Saturday of the month. They've been doing it for four years, and it usually has about anywhere between 5,300 people attend. So last Saturday night, it's a bonfire. It's outside, and they allow certain speakers. And Sebastian Gorka was invited. He dropped in for a thirty minute kind of, briefing in terms of his perspective to what's going on with, the new people being brought into the new administration. Then right after that, David Martin, kind of a guest speaker because he lives in Marshall, gave about a fifteen minute rendition of, what was called accountability. And it it ranged over, quite a few topics. But one that was interesting, forty eight hours before last Saturday night, he received a draft from the legal firm of which he and some other people have been working with for the last six months. That legal firm is supported financially by the largest independent donor to the Republican Party. And, he said, I just wanna bring to your attention an unfortunate condition as I read the brief that this law firm put together. And David put a kind of a chess match legal brief of information for the law firm to put together to hand to the five attorney generals that they've been working with for the last, I don't know, year. And he said, unfortunately, the brief that he reviewed from the law firm didn't have any of the information or the context or the playbook that he put together. So he said, inside of the inside, we have, what we call sabotage. So he said it was very, you know, disturbing that all that time and money spent was it went went for not. And he said the good thing is that the, the case that they're working within Tulsa with, a patient client family and a sheriff is still still in operation. So that's good. The and what the takeaway here is that we have people that are supposed to be on the good side moving to the sidelines when it's their job to take the right information put together by the right information people, and then it it's left in a lame duck condition. So all the things that we've been fighting for, all that, you know, it's unfortunate because we sit here and go, you know, can we get accountability? Can we have legal pursuit? It seems even the people that are drafting the legal information don't wanna get in the game. I mean, it is beyond sad. So the other thing I wanted to mention, because I watched this very closely, is that, the DOJE movement is is all comprised of people who took the jab, who financed mRNA technology, who have a relationship into Palantir, into PayPal, into all the things that have a controlled kind of fenced in environment, both from a medical side and a department of defense side. And so it's it's just you know, we have to be realistic, and I said this many times. If you don't know your competition, you can't play in the game. So and and all of you know that when I talk about Palantir, I'm speaking about Peter Thiel, who was the one of the cofounders of Palantir, one of the cofounders of PayPal, one of the cofounders of many pieces, and he was in David's book, coup d'etat twelve, going back to 02/2011. So Peter is one of the enterprise. Peter helped finance JD Vance getting into this election cycle. So there's a lot of money. Elon Musk has put in, I don't know, $80,000,000 into, you know he bought his way into this. So I think we have to be careful for what we wish for because what we're wishing for is being, flushed down the drain. And if we don't identify this, we will be building our own fence of which we'll never get out of. So it it doesn't answer your question about Fauci, but Fauci has has so many pieces of this pie that go back so many years. Remember what his original original task was coming into his position back in 1984, and that was to establish a universal vaccine. And essentially what the COVID vaccine compliment was is that universal vaccine because it landed or gene therapy, it landed in the children's, schedule. So he accomplished what he wanted to do. Done. His job is over. I know it's a sobering thought, but, you know, we have to face the reality. Doesn't mean we stop, but, you know, it's like, okay. How many legal firms are gonna be given all the information? And we pay them to do that. And they put together a terrible, terrible product that we're supposed to hand to five AGs putting their necks on the line. So as of this point in time, that is in a stalemate. Speaker 4: Thank you, Frank. I, agree with much, if not all of what you said. There's a lot of very concerning, players in the current slate for a lack of a better description there, and, Ed Dowd also agrees with you. I recently wrote his Hub Stack, that I entitled, and this is a quote from Ed Dowd, the battle has barely begun. And Ed knows well that group of players. He as you know, with his history. And so, yes, there's a lot of infiltrators for lack of better, word. But if you want to read a little bit about that, I'm going to put that article in the purple pill. And, yes, that doesn't mean we're gonna stop fighting, but it does mean we have to be very aware of what the battle is. Speaker 10: Yeah. And I'd say, listen, Ed Ed in his BlackRock days and in the investment community has dotted lines to all these people. So, you know, I spoke to David and and, you know, couple I I speak to him quite often, and I told him, I said, did you did you catch this was on Thursday. Did you catch the closing of Palantir? And he goes, no. I didn't, but I know it's grown exponentially since they got out of the New York Stock Exchange. Well, Palantir went from thirty three months ago to 77 recently. Alex Karp, the CEO and another cofounder of Palantir, was on all the financial networks Thursday along with a bunch of other people. I listened to all those people talk about their euphoric artificial intelligence activity, and it and one of the things that I've tried to point out that David pointed out back in 2021 was in terms of the COVID privateers, Palantir had a software platform called Gotham Data Tracking. That's one of about a dozen platforms they have. That one is the one that has one of the constructs of facial recognition. So remember, during COVID, when all the cameras were put out and people were supposedly wearing masks around, that software platform was taking pictures of everybody with their masks on so they could pick up their eyes, and they can figure out who was who even with a mask on. So one of the one of the key tools inside of the COVID activity was Gotham, data tracking. So I would encourage people to go into the website of Palantir, go on, read or listen to the interviews by these people, and you'll pick up on what their intent is. I listened to Jeffrey Bezos talk about his own platform that involves, the space race, that involves his AI, these people are psychopaths. And the fact that they're being brought in in one shape or way into this so called new administrative administration in the in the, illusion of, you know, doing something of reduction of unelected agencies, doing the, MAHA. I mean, again, we talk about MAGA, Make America Great Again. Well, I've always contested a country that was founded on the opium trade, and the First Bank of the United States was an opium dealer in 1791, we've never been great. We have been one drug organization underneath the American flag. We're one drug country that extends across the universe in a drug trade, that feeds a war trade, that feeds a human trafficking trade. That's what we're up against. So, I mean, I think people should be calling out these bullshit nominations, and Ed Dowd is doing it. So David was asked at this, event, last Saturday. Well, how come you haven't been nominated, brought into the circle? He goes, hey. At CPAC, they wouldn't even let me go to the, grand jury, the gathering that Ron Johnson put together. Ron Johnson made sure I wasn't there. Ron Johnson. The guy that had David in 2021 in his office with 17 people, and when David left, the bullet went through his sunroof. Ron Johnson. Yeah. This is warfare. Warfare. Speaker 9: Robert, can can I make Frank, can I make you a question? What do you think with the American people make some pressure on Robert E. Kennedy Jr. Since he was since the beginning of the COVID, one of defensers and the who struggled to this psychopathy. He's on government. I followed him, since since the beginning of this bullshit. And, I think American people should make some pressure, as as all the world is trying to make pressure on its governments and and things can can make some change. I think we are little fish, fighting with sharks. Okay? But all little fish is get together and, I think some pressure Speaker 10: makes things come out. What do you think about Robert? No. I I think pressure is good, but let me I'm gonna, you you know, the audience is gonna really hate me for what I'm gonna say next. So let me ask you a question. Nuno, have you read the the original book that Kennedy CHD put out that was about Fauci? Have you read that book? Speaker 9: No. I I I passed my eyes through it. I think it's all Okay. Speaker 10: So that book, so the Fauci Dossier that I, that, that I've shared relentlessly, the Fauci Dossier is two zero five pages, 27 of the pages is in a kind of a word format. The other 185 are all the coronavirus patents, patents applied for patents that were rejected, all the universities doing all these things, 5,000, 5,000 patents. So that's why it's 185 pages. That document is one of the key pieces inside of that book. Now, David was contracted by CHD, so Children's Health Defense Fund, to provide information that they didn't have. There was a contract. David fulfilled his end of the bargain. CHD did not fulfill the end of their bargain in terms of paying David for services rendered. So when David talks going back quite some time ago about the integrity of the people that are moving into these positions, where is the integrity of our organization or an individual who is, you know, Kennedy for not obligating their side of the bargain on just a simple contract of providing information that other people David has a, system underneath his MCAM organization that he can look into things that no one, no one in the world can look into. So he knows exactly who's doing what when, what money funded, flowed, etcetera, all the time. So, back to Robert Kennedy. So, if someone doesn't hold their end of the bargain, the where does that sit in the area of integrity? I think you check the check the box, and no. It doesn't. So, you know, we've always talked to people about, or shared, if you lie once, that kinda rides along with you. But most of the people don't know this. David brought this up with Alex Jones. He brought it up with some other people. A lot of people haven't caught it because David does not vocalize these issues. David stepped away from tens of opportunities to be in the stage with the so called medical freedom fighters, who, if you follow all of them and figure out how much money they get paid for attending a conference or something, they're getting paid for this. They're getting paid for the condition that COVID brought around. Speaker 5: They I mean, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say some some of them do not get paid. They do it because they've done it for us, and they, you know, they literally are on the phone saving patients' lives. I've Speaker 10: experienced that one. Saying. That's what I'm saying. No. No. I I but I hear what this Malone Robert Malone paid over a $100,000 for showing up to have a discussion. Speaker 5: Yeah. I agree. And I agree with you on the political pot, patty cake that's being played where, like, it it's all for show. Right? I mean, there's a lot of it going on, and people people cheer these round tables or these hearings or whatever. But they they could do something if they wanted, but they don't want to because they don't want the political pressure. They just want you to cheer them and believe that they're doing something, but they're not doing anything. And as soon as those people leave, they're they're getting I mean, they're they're responsible for the attacks on some of the people that are trying to Speaker 10: make a difference. Like Yeah. Yesterday, Martin. So look look it. David was, in in Oklahoma Mhmm. Yep. With with with a number of people. Okay? Mhmm. You know, I'm in constant contact with with people, you know, with Mick and with just following following up with and following through on these on these conditions. And and it and it's tough. So what what I'm trying to do is allow so I mean, this is a very basic thing because and I'm gonna repeat myself the many times I've talked about the 12 senses, the 12 cranial nerves. We as a population have been subdued into 2.8 of the five senses that most people think we have, but 2.8 of 12. So why why would it be a why couldn't wouldn't it be a mystery that we're not even operating in a a human capacity to move forward? Most of these people, number one, even though I mean, even the people who are fighting the fight, they have they have battles with themselves to to to figure out, okay, what is my fear? What's my shame? What is my pain? What am I bringing to the table in this environment? And I think the level of transparency is not as high as it should be. I think, again, I think we're at another stage of a circus even though one side won an election through, what I call a celection, because we don't have a number of people that we would go, okay, they're the leader that I would pick. Okay? These these people were put up into that platform. There were there's probably so many other people that could qualify, but our system doesn't allow for that. So our system's not a good system to get there. So now we're at a point, and I'm saying this, that we're at a point that we we crossed one, so we got in the end zone. Touchdown. We got that. We're ahead. Now the ball's back out. It's a kickoff. Now guess guess who's receiving it? The the people receiving it are the ones who have been appointed into these newly, selected groups to make changes. And we're finding that some of those people, they they don't have the, the what I would say are are the constructs that should be in that position. But guess what? Susie Wiles is the one making these choices, not Donald Trump. And if you think here's the other question. Is that the real Donald Trump that we're dealing with? Is it? That's a question. I think we should all be looking at, are we actually looking, remember this is all theater, is is he actually who we think he is? I have people that have met him going back to the eighties and the nineties, and they've met him concurrently. And they're like, that's not the guy that I met back in '87, '92. So on on their accord, as a personal experience, they're going, is this the same same guy, or is this Memorex? Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was really interesting when I had the opportunity to shake his hand. I got absolutely no impression of the man beyond that he was absolutely lovely and and gracious and perfectly nice, but I I didn't get a sense of who he was. Speaker 10: You have to have your own experience, and that's the most wonderful thing about it. Everyone has to have their own experience. I don't know. I'm fortunate to be connected to someone who goes back decades working with all administrations in the biowarfare area. And remember what he said a couple times that he stood in front of Congress in 2002 bringing the, discovery of, at that point in time, was 3,000 patents in coronavirus back in 02/2002. Did our government do anything with it? Absolutely not. All it did for them was to say, okay. Someone's watching. And they went ahead and did all the gain of function that you know about and where we landed today. So, I mean, we have a really difficult situation that we're operating within, And, we need to open our eyes and our ears and our our hearts into what is really going on so that we can be better at tuning into the frequency of what were being broadcasted. So going back to Ed Dowd, Ed Ed's actually doing some things. I've seen some other people post some things, and that's why I said most of the people inside this new organization, they all took the shots. Rubio took the shots. Okay? You got you you look at, a bunch of people in the beginning. They stood up for the mandates. Speaker 1: But did they really take the shots, or did they just go get there? I took my shot certificate and selfie so they could say they took the shots. Well, I mean, and I don't Speaker 10: let me just say this. I don't want pictures they have pictures of themselves taking the shots and advocating it, advertising it as the thing to do. Come on. Do not do not pose excuses for these people. Speaker 1: No. I just wonder how many of them were actually injected with the live mRNA and how many, you know, got that selfie and Well, guess what? Have it up to It doesn't it doesn't matter. Speaker 5: They post it up. Trump posted it up. What's worse what's worse if they actually believe that it worked and they got it? I can excuse that versus they knew that it was dangerous and pretended to get it and like, what you know what I mean? What's worse? Like, we a lot of our victims took the shots because they thought that Yeah. Because they were scared. But so I I wouldn't ever So before they took the shots, before these individuals Speaker 10: on the political stage took the shots, the Fauci dossier was sent to all these people. Remember what I said? Ron Johnson, 18. Mhmm. He challenged the validity of public record right to David's face. Speaker 3: Mhmm. Speaker 10: How how how, like what an insult. Speaker 5: That is an insult. Yeah. Speaker 10: But I'm not a big so And then a bullet goes through his sunroof on the Yeah. You know, driving I'm not a big Speaker 5: I'm not a big fan of Ron of Ron Johnson, just to be clear. So I don't think that was all legit. Right? Like, I I'm with you on that. Speaker 10: We we as an audience are trying to participate and trying to get accountability. We we're trying to dig into what what real accountability is. And I know people who have said the DOJ is so far gone, and they have been for four years. Mhmm. So, I mean, we're we're we're four you know, look look at all the dancing that, Rand Paul did Speaker 5: in Congress. What a waste. Yeah. Big time. That's what I'm saying. They could do something if they wanted to. They're not they don't want to. They're they're they're just toying, and they've been toying with us for Speaker 12: years Speaker 5: Yeah. This whole time. I mean, you know, there I you can kind of, like Speaker 10: This is this is a mercenary army activity playing out just like the, monarchy, the royals, about different countries Yeah. Each other back in the December to to the present. Speaker 5: Yeah. So So, Frank, hold on. We got we got some hands up, but I got a feeling Yeah. Go right ahead. I think I think it might be related to the because everybody wants to talk about the the like, I I agree with you on, like, everything you said. I I think we have we have to the people that we expect to bring about accountability, we have to hold them accountable, and don't get don't be disappointed when they let you down. I mean, you have to, like, take the take the it's time to take the rose colored glasses off with regard to party. Right? Like, it's you know? But I wanna get Yeah. I wanna get to these, hands in case I got a question for you. Yeah. Just just to be clear, I you know, Speaker 10: you don't have to agree with me. Mhmm. I'm just I'm just bringing some kind of at grassroots level. That's why I said David was really upset. He he he brought in the information that Yeah. This this law firm had put together. I mean, this is six months of work, and I don't know how much money what was in that. But the actual law firm that was supposed to be putting it to because Dave says, I've got the information. I've got the way to approach this. Yep. I'm gonna hand it to you guys. K. When I say Dave, it's not just David. Stan Graham and some other people. And they they pass it over, And then the playbook they put together is, like like, touch football versus tackle football. Speaker 13: Yeah. I agree. That's an insult. Speaker 5: I mean, I I agree. Like, I don't I don't think I've ever met a more brilliant person than than doctor David Martin. I I mean, when you say they handed it, like, on a silver platter, like, he's just anybody. Just go watch any of his videos. He lays it out clearly and it's so Speaker 10: I mean, he's been awake a lot longer than a lot of people though. So Yeah. Well, look at look at he's he's been tortured. Okay? Yeah. He's had our government and and other things gone through physical torture. Yeah. Okay? He's been in he's been in the viper's den, and he always Exactly. He always has the antidote next to Speaker 4: Yeah. You know? And I want to say for those of you who aren't familiar with doctor David Martin and also for I don't have any, insight into the details behind what Frank Frank is describing. But what I'm hearing what I am understanding him saying is that doctor David Martin, if you've ever watched any of his videos, you know that he brings the receipt. He brings the receipts. He has the patents. He shows the pattern of the patents for for gain of function by history of the patents. And so it appears that what has happened is he's handed the goods to to a to a party who was supposed to take those goods and actually use them for the purpose of making a pause in in getting justice. And, apparently, they took it and gutted it. Now there's only one one reason why you do that, and that's because you're not on the side of justice. Speaker 10: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And just just just to conclude before Speaker 5: and, again, Speaker 10: other people get get into this. Just to conclude here that you know, remember, in crew day 12, and David has publicly stated this, he was recruited by the people back in the late nineties, so 1999 and February. He was recruited to be their, we'll call it general manager. He turned it down twice. So he he knows Peter Thiel personally. Mhmm. Okay? He knew the people that were the the 12 original enterprise participants that did all the false flags and all the money laundering that led up to Obama's presidency. Obama had no idea that he was bought into it over John McCain at at at that time. John McCain was asked to step aside. So, during that round, okay, Dave was asked to be on the side of darkness. So that's why when you're close to the people and they wanted you and your technology, he can say with impunity the things that he does because guess what? He's he sat there and and been proposed that kind of activity that's god forbid that he took that way back then because right now, it would be a lot worse than it is. Speaker 5: Yep. I agree. Let's get to some of the hands because otherwise, I'll get letters all week. No. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, guys. No. Sometimes I'm half kidding. Sometimes I do get letters. But, and I might be going out of order here because I you guys are gonna have to keep me honest because I can see two hands up. I can see Timothy and Nuno. So I'm gonna go to Timothy and then Nuno. Speaker 7: Timothy. Speaker 14: How you doing? How you doing? I'm sorry. Interesting, boil down of what's going on, and I understand it's it's it's really frustrating when you get to a certain level and you realize that all of the politicians are selected to oversee the ongoing genocide. And it's it's aggravating because you're you're kinda left with no options. The judges, that's a wall. The the Supreme Court's wall. All your representatives are gonna be cowards. They're not gonna do anything. Your senators aren't gonna do anything. The president well, you obviously he's gonna do something, and he's gonna advocate that you take the shot. And it's it's an unfortunate measure where you're not left with any other options other than just, well, you could what the founding fathers had advocated for was, well, you know, you have to do what you have to do. And then there's the, well, the peaceful nonviolent situation. And so, I put in the nest, injected,um,.com, which is they started a a dating service, for unvaccinated people. They sued yeah. They, they just sued, Pfizer. They served them at their corporate headquarters for crimes against humanity. I put it in the nest for you guys to to if you guys wanna partake in that, it's we wanna get into a class action level, and and really do some damage. And there's also, the it's a court of public opinion, and you're confronting a bunch of monsters that are hiding behind the premise of power and authority. And if you take it from them in in peaceful compensation or just just basically just not even show any fear and show up some days, e even at your level, you know, a protest with your level, if you bring back protesting to where, you know, I don't really know what else to do because people, you know, you have that spectrum of reaction and and also awareness and then higher order thinking. You have these all and you you gotta make sure that everybody's, you know, has options. Because if You do. We just sit on our asses and and not and not, I guess, get ahead of it, they're gonna do exactly what they did before. But now they're gonna use NATO, and they're gonna actually use, military troops to the point where, they're gonna try to keep pushing and pushing and pushing into the point where it's finally normalized. And it it's gonna be up to the the status quo Republicans, the ones that sit in, you know, and just kinda blend in. You guys are gonna really have to get punk rock in your in your protest. Speaker 5: I mean I mean, it it's it's interesting though because you have it's like if everybody who was pissed about these things online would go to a protest and or a rally or show up at one of these events, the tide would shift because people would be so shit scared, but they do sit on their asses. Like, I I mean, we've I've tried many times. Well, you know, we've been to me and my family, we've been to a lot of rallies and a lot of protests and and stuff. Right? And some we bring the whole family, the grandkids, everything. And, it's amazing to me that you'll have 10,000 people in a town who are against the mandates, let's say. Let's say, you know, when the mandates were coming out in August 2021, 10,000 people complaining about the mandates. I don't wanna take the shot because of my job. I don't wanna take I don't wanna have to to, you know no no no, jabs for jobs. Right? Like, all the, you know, the memes that were going around. And they were like we went to a rally. I think the biggest rally that the one that was most attended was at was for Southwest Airlines, and there was probably 500 people there. But most of the rallies had maybe a 100 people, 200, and that was because it was such a big deal. If if we try to do that, like, sometimes we'll have we'll try to rally outside of a hospital where people were murdered, and, like, 20 people will show up or 50 people will show up. Speaker 1: It's crazy. Well, even Speaker 14: even five people is a significant number when we're dealing with these people that are not used to protests. They're they're literally not. And I think one of the reasons why it doesn't happen as much as we need it to happen right now is because it's just not normalized behavior. It's just not. And and if you if you make it, you know, something significant and you see it all over the place, it will kind of become normalized behavior because, again, the whole country and then magnify that on the whole world It's just used to this complacency. And I think a lot of it has to do with just the chemical lobotomy that everybody is suffering in. But, you know, other Right. Other than that, I mean, I don't really I don't see any outcome other than just worse than worse and worse. I mean Yeah. It's gonna have to be a normalized behavior to the point when they're not gonna be able to push back because they know the next step. Because, again, they use algorithms, and if you see if you see 10 people, then that's actually 20,000 based off of their their metrics because they know that just you know, we we represent a vast number of people just assume, you know, just five or 10 people. But everybody's so busy. It becomes a more normalized thing. Again, with the weather, it's gonna shift. I don't even know if we're gonna get, you know, Trump inaugurated. But, again, if you want Trump to respond to you, if you want that, they are very, very receptive to image and optics branding. And if you can figure out how to brand, a recovery out of this, that's another thing you guys can do socially and culturally and whatnot because that's all. They they just want they just want some sort of twisted version of what was once before, but they just want the psyop just as much as the left does. Right? I and I was it came to my it it it dawned on me. The only reason why we won is because Disney went too far. If Disney stayed back about a 100 yards from where they are, I think the right would've went along with it. You know? Just like it's just hard to say. But, you know, the true hard crimes against humanity, that that plight, it has to be a thousand percent pushback. Speaker 5: Yep. I agree. Thank you. Speaker 9: Let me tell you. Can I can I tell something? I'm not so pessimistic, because, now I can go to a rally alone. Okay? Five, four years ago, I I could not move. I was scared. I was I I was scared. It's that the some but so, this this fight may made me know very much people, making connections, making a network of people of people like us, and still fighting. And as as you said, right now, if we we think we can make them, go backward one yard, two yards, three yards, it's a victory. And and I think people should should think in that way. I'm not being incontious. I'm I think I I'm very very focused. And, as I as I was seeing now and and, very much politicians, I think they are victims too. I remember Macy, the congresswoman, I think she took two or three shots, and she's still fighting for that. Rand Paul, trying to to fight to fight with Fauci and and his crime and and his crimes. So every movie we make, together, it's it's it's fighting. I I I cannot comply, to to die in in my knees. Okay? And and I want to let you another question. What do you think about that, that 500 pages of that subcommittee, of COVID that came forward, two days ago? And I think this is these are tools to bring us to the to the to the to the play this game. They want us to play this game and for sure we have we have a thing. We will all die, but I think we should die fighting. Okay? Speaker 5: Thank you. I want to go to, next hippie dippy and then, cat cat cat cat. So hippie dippy and then cat. Speaker 13: Good evening, everybody. Sorry. I was I was away from the phone. Sorry about that. Well so what I've been doing is, is is kind of delving deeper into the insurance, Speaker 5: stuff. And, you know, their their part in, you know, monopolizing and overtaking all the administrative stuff and, you know, that that's a major concern. But I just wanted to let everybody know if these, Speaker 13: if there are these, you know, blanket white knights pardons, remember that the they only cover federal crimes, not state level crimes. That's where our strength lies. We have to take, you know, our power back at the state level. It's not for the faint of heart. It's not simple. And, Speaker 5: yeah, you know, there's power in numbers, but, Speaker 13: you know, the Chevron deference has has helped us strengthen, you know, our stuff. The other thing that this these, pardons do is if these people are called in other cases, they have given up the right if they're pardoned to plead the fifth. So they must answer for any other case that's brought against them. So I just want people to remember that Speaker 1: part of this, Speaker 13: this stuff. So, anyway, thanks for that. Speaker 5: No. I appreciate that. And you're right. Yeah. You're right about it's federal level, not state level, and it doesn't include military stuff. And I don't even I think that blanket pardons will be challenged anyways. They can be challenged. So it's not like Speaker 4: Now I would Speaker 1: a space with an expert who specifically deals with, this kind of law pardons and the like. Uh-huh. Somebody asked I was gonna ask, but somebody got there and asked, what if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt with evidence and investigations and whatever else that the twenty twenty election was completely fraudulent and that the current administration has been acting, you know, acting with power that they never should have had, could those pardons, if you were to do these reprehensible preemptive pardons, could they be overturned? And this guy seemed to think, no. Absolutely not. That's not how anything works. We're gonna whatever they did during their illegitimate term will continue to stand and, and really seem to encourage us to not focus on revenge, but focus on moving forward to make sure these things can't happen in the future. And I know that that is just absolutely unacceptable to the hundreds and hundreds of people who we've interviewed, who have experienced firsthand COVID related crimes against humanity because of what these people have done. So I I don't know. I hope the states become really, active and motivated once more evidence about these things comes out, and and we can pursue justice, through the states if if, and God forbid, they do go forward with these preemptive pardons. But I think until until they drop that shoot, we should all be screaming from the rooftops that that is absolutely unacceptable, and we will not stand for a a preemptive pardon of Tony Fauci. Speaker 5: Yep. I agree. Cat. Cat. Cat. Cat. Hey. Hi. Speaker 8: I don't know. You know, Sherry was up here talking about this really terrifying dark winter of death we are going through at the current moment. But I I just really think nobody you know, we ain't seen nothing yet because Peter Hotez, who even seems to be trumping Fauci in terms of terrorizing the public, has given us all notice that these there's just, like, suitcases full of viruses waiting, just waiting. They're smart. They know that on on January 21, they're all going to be released from these suitcases and come out and, just wreak havoc on the public. And I just was really worried that we're not ready for that. Are you guys ready to take Peter Hotez's new jobs to save the world from all the viruses that are waiting to, you know, come out on January 21? I mean, they're coming. Right? So Mhmm. Make your appointments. You guys get your appointments lined up at Walgreens and CVS. Get your jabs so that, you know, you'll be one day safer from hospitalization or or whatever the theory may be. I didn't even see Peter Speaker 1: suggesting that people should go get, you know, get be up to date on your boosters in advance of this. But for anyone who who hasn't seen it, I just pinned it to the the nest where he says, you know, as of 01/21/2025, all of these horrific, presumably, gain of function viruses are coming down the pike. So y'all better be prepared. And this is a not very veiled threat. Like, in 2019, we saw the same kind of foreshadowing. We 2019. Sorry. We saw the the same kind of thing where they were saying, oh, Trump is gonna be tested with a pandemic, and, and then we saw what came to pass. So it's really it's very alarming that he's out there saying this, and I think we should take him at his word. And, you know, like Jen's saying, be prepared, but don't don't be prepared by going and getting up to date with experimental mRNA boosters. Be prepared by having the things in your medicine cabinet that you need to to be prophylactic and, and not get these things in the first place. Speaker 5: And And then and and people do need to be prepared. Because while we're on this topic, seven calls this week from people who were sick, and only one of them was prepared. And That's how seven calls I got. People are still getting COVID tests. Speaker 1: And I just Yes. Take you by your your shirt and say, what what are you doing? Stop Yes. For COVID. We know that the tests are ineffective. We know that they give false positives, and we know that they're used to justify these horrendous incentivized COVID protocols. So why why go get a COVID test in 2024? Speaker 5: People are calling and they're like, hey. My mother has COVID or, my sister has COVID or I have COVID, and I'm I'm over here like, how the hell do you know that? First of all, you you you took the test. Stop taking the test. Just stop taking the test. Just treat everything like I mean, it doesn't it doesn't matter. The r RSV, the flu, COVID, doesn't matter. It's the same treatment. It's friggin COVID and act accordingly. Yeah. Right. Pretend you got COVID. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, budesonide, you you know, there's we're dealing with somebody right now who's got double pneumonia. Speaker 8: And Coffee enemas, parasite detoxing, all of it. Clor chlorine dioxide. Speaker 4: Correct. Speaker 8: Have it in your medicine cabinet. Stock up. And Jase case is a great place to get your, multiples of antibiotics, a kit. Yeah. Jase, j a s e, Jase case. Speaker 5: Yes. Speaker 8: And while Peter Hostes did not explicitly say, you know, go get your jobs, that's this is conditioning for, you know, January 22 when, the pandemic has started, and everybody is panicking, and the bodies are piling up in the morgue. So, you know, that's going to be the next Except the diagnosis. Line in the narrative. So he didn't say it specifically today, but that's what he's implying, and that's what's coming next. So just make sure you get all of them right now, you know, the shingles, the flu, the pneumonia. Get your COVID shot and the booster. You know? Get all 10 boosters. Speaker 1: Except. And then Except that the dynamics are shifting. Like, in in 2020, when when it was Trump's operation warp speed vaccines, we saw the the out party, you know, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, and their their whole cabal, insisting that this was rushed and scary, and probably people I'm not gonna take this vaccine, Kamala said. I I don't know if anyone should take it. We'll see, after their safety data. And that was their stance on it until they got into power, and then they flipped the script. And they're like, oh, well, these are totally safe and effective because we're in charge now, so everyone should go get them. And then you saw the, you know, Trump's people start saying, no. We're not going to comply because it's the Biden administration pushing Trump's operation or speed vaccine. So I don't know if It was Trump's you know, if they're going to continue how can they continue ramping up the go get your safe and effective booster if they're also trying to say Trump's in charge now and everything Trump does is dangerous. So I I don't know that they can have that both ways. Speaker 8: Well, I think that they are good at having things both ways. They'll just think of something. You know? They'll just make something up just like, you know, Bill Gates has his book, how to what is it? How to do something with statistics, how to lie with statistics or whatever. You know, so they'll just do that. They'll just make something up. It'll be a new flavor. It'll be a new zany frosting, Speaker 1: but it'll be on the same page. I don't know, though. Because if if we look at at what they did during the, you know, during 2020 until they until they took power, they were very down on Trump's public health authorities. They were not not, you know, they were still obviously, they were still working with the FDA at all, but they were not, like, endorsing them because it's ostensibly Trump's administration. So I don't see how they're Yeah. If this continues to, you know, they continue to flip it. So now because Trump's in charge, Speaker 5: the the vaccines are dangerous again. Yeah. I Well, I mean, like, they but they were acting like Trump was in a some kind in a lab with beakers and a bunsen burner making it himself. Like, I mean, that that wasn't happening. He was just I I saw you know what I'm saying? Like, that's said we don't see as many people as I Yeah. And the warnings aren't going Speaker 8: the mandates or whatever aren't gonna come you know, the recommendations aren't gonna come from the Trump admin. It's gonna come from the guys who are going out of power now. It's, you know, it's gonna come from them. They're going to try to maintain their foothold as the authorities, and they're going to try to minimize, you know, I kinda the the RFK. RFK is not gonna run the job. Think instead Speaker 1: that they are going to start acknowledging operation warp speed harms. So, I mean, it's it's amazing Did he of dissonance. Speaker 5: But Oh, I don't think I don't think they will. Trump in power again. Speaker 1: It it's Trump's responsibility. He's the one who did Operation Warp Speed in the first place. And if they do start actually investigating the the mRNA harms and and they go, oh, wow. This was really harmful after all, then they can finally justify all of their comparisons to Hitler because then it would be at Trump's feet the whole the whole all of the harms of the the operation warp speed mandates. I can totally see that. I totally do. I don't know. I don't think they'll do it. I don't think that the Speaker 5: in in the short Speaker 1: I mean, it it's very interesting, and I have to wonder. And I don't know if you cut out there again. I will have to say that that it was If you look at make you know, even more available. Speaker 5: Because, I mean, Warp Speed operation the shots I think the first shots were given in December 2020 to nursing home victims. Right? Because my I know my dad got his in December 2020, and he was forced to get it because he was lived in a nursing home. And my mom got hers, wasn't available until February 2021. So, I I mean, the Biden administration has taken has tried to take credit for making it available to the masses and then, of course, trying to mandate it. Right? Because not enough people were getting at So I don't think, I mean, I don't think that they'll go, oh, you know, no. This was they're taking the they're getting the same money. Right? Like, they're getting money from Pfizer and Moderna, and they're not gonna they're not gonna turn on those companies. It's not gonna happen. Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say is it I've got it goes beyond the it goes beyond the political wars. It goes straight back to the money and to the people who are profiting. And many of the people who are profiting are actually Eugenesis anyway. And so I think it comes down to the real agenda versus the political aspirations. I think the people in power want money and depop. So I don't I think that it's gonna extend way past the political aspirations, unfortunately. Speaker 9: I I don't think so. I think it's going to be, some castle cards, down downing, because people are very aware what, what's going on. So the same strategies are not going to to happen again. It's my way of thinking, and people who took the dread pill, for the next years, I think. I don't think people should fall in the same in the same. I think we they will still use the the fear. It's it's the best, the best arm that that they have, the best the best, gunshot. I think it's taking the fear to the people to to maintain some some this agenda. But if you think you are all talking about David Martin, David Martin studied this. He was inside the system since nineteen sixties, and, he was here in European Union taking some some, talking with with some, some politicians who still fights for this COVID thing comes up. And I think they will not use the the pharmaceuticals. I think they they still are struggling with, the social instability in some parts of geopolitical things, in in Romania, in Georgia, in in Syria, and and this sector has, for other things. They they will not try the same thing. They they make make cycles with big pharma. The last one was in in in 02/2010, 02/2008, when they used the the the the bird flu and the h one h gout menu, gout yeah. The birth flu, was in 02/2020. Before was the swimming flu, the the the cow, headache cow. I don't know how to say in English. So they they still the last sixty years, was always, but this time was very, very awakening for the, for the people. And I don't think they will use, near time, this strategy again because the, the, the certificates and the, the collusion with the the free the the the freedom to to to cycle around the states. And and people are very aware. I think they will not use the same strategy as they as you were saying, for for the next times, I don't think they will use it because our we we are, we are coming very awake. People are getting masses of people are awakening all over the world. Okay? And I don't think they will use it. And till finishing, I I will think I think, really, it's going to be the worst to distract us, okay, in in in Israel, in in Syria, and, here in Europe. I don't know. Speaker 5: I think you're right about that. Speaker 1: I still think it'll be amazing if we make it to January 21 without some kind of nuclear event. Speaker 5: Oh, I know. Right? I mean, they're certainly trying hard enough. Did you see Syria just fell apart? Yep. Speaker 4: Yeah. Speaker 1: Looks like it's gonna be another Libya. Speaker 5: Yep. I see our I also see our do we have anybody else with the hands up? Because I see our fearless leader on. Speaker 1: Great to see Brad on. How are you doing tonight, Brad? Speaker 16: Hey. I'm doing great. Thanks, everybody. I I agree with the prior caller, about how they're gonna continue these diversionary efforts. But if it were a year ago now when we were projecting where we might be a year from now, we would literally be popping, champagne corks if we could look into the future and see where we are now. Speaker 5: Yeah. That's true. Speaker 16: It's true. Right? And I see it on the Yeah. On the January 6 front. You have these, I guess they're, like, almost like pincer movements of, like, free information that's beginning to pierce through the the filters. The Hunter Biden, pardon, you know, made everybody from the other side of the Gulf wonder, well, why would a ten year pardon be required? What happened in 02/2014? And, of course, you go to Burisma, and then that opened up the whole question of of, you know, well, OG, there was a coup, and OG, our administrative state supported the coup. So you have a lot of people on the other side of the of The Gulf who were struggling with trying to cognitively square all these all these issues, and it's it's causing, for good reasons, cognitive diss dissonance and and psychic pain. And so we we need to be I think we need to continue to be patient to an extent. But that Hunter Biden, I noticed, like, almost like a break in the log jam in regards to the idea that all January sixers should be pardoned, in a blanket fashion. And this is something I've been advocating for from the very beginning, not getting into dicing and slicing comparisons about this person. He threw a flagpole. This Yeah. Javelin. This person used, you know, pushed the barrier. This person held a sign up over his head. This person sprayed mace. The the the or conversely, there's another cohort in the January 6 community that thinks it can divine who, CHS, confidential human sources, otherwise known as the feds. They think that they can divine who the feds are, and then they have very defined ideas, as to who they have figured as being feds. And my position from the beginning is, you know, we'll never know. If if we could know, it would take two to three years of concerted activity by offices of inspectors general with new leadership where they actually wanted to find delve into the back drawers of g s thirteen, fourteen journeyman agents to find out, you know, who the CHS actually are. So we're, you know, 02/1978 time frame before you could ever have a report on that. So that's a that's a foolish errand. On the who committed violence, question on January 6, you don't wanna have a drip, drip, drip, case by case pardon because then what the story becomes is every time there's a new group of pardons that comes out, the media will then seize upon that, you know, basically, from the perspective of what what violent conduct did the unhinged president decide to to pardon today. So the only way to get past all that is to do a blanket pardon and say, the government complicity before, during, and after January 6, the government conduct was so egregious. It it was a whole scale, deprivation of, American citizenship rights, human rights, constitutional rights. And so we're no longer concerned about how anybody thrown into this cauldron, acted. This goes for the January. This go for the it goes for the police who are in response. We're no longer concerned about that. We wanna send a, a resounding message to governments of the future that they can never ever devolve to where they target a class of American citizens like they did, and then you get past the sale. The reason a big reason why that, I think, is important is because, really, what we're in is a war of consciousness, and awareness increasing or opening or, the the the the the challenge here is is it's it's it's really, you know, overcoming this information war. We now know from people like Mike Benz, everybody should follow, that we had massive government sponsored this huge apparatus that's led by governmental agencies. But, as you peel back the layers of the onion and you see the NGOs, like Graphica and companies like that, you can see that we've all been victims of this massive sign up. It started, you know, we think is is best can be understood. It started, around the time of the, of of the, Ukraine coup, and it built steam through the Brexit movement where the EU and The US, the administrative state, not to be confused with the constitutionally elected, Western government of of properly elected, leadership, which only have, you know, limited, influence and control over this, that administrative state, which is functioning outside the constitutional governance system that's been in, you know, a fixture for the last over two hundred years. They're the ones driving all this. We've all been victims, whether you're a Jan sixer or you are a line prosecutor, a judge, or a member of the jury pool in the District Of Columbia, you, you know, you could not have known that there was this massive government system to deny you important context to base your decision making, to selectively, put inflammatory information in front of you, the same three or four tape loop loops, you know, the fire extinguisher being used as a weapon, the known being dragged through the crowd, the the tunnel videos, and, the guy with a crutch. I mean, those four loops were were were played in the days that followed January 6. And already by the afternoon of January 6, you had majority leader, McConnell Pelosi. And Pelosi both, you know, as if on cue, talking about insurrection. By the following day, everybody was was on narrative. You had, the government controlled social media platforms that we'd all been forced onto because they basically prevented us from meeting in person in churches and civic groups. Even with your neighbors, we're all sort of, you know, thrust inside and and forced to get our information from these massively corrupted and compromised and controlled platforms. They they could not have known. Then you had Facebook under government leadership basically eradicating any context from the social media platforms. You had to develop a development of a snitch network where, you know, as if by magic, they had, you know, tip lines and snitch lines. And from having looked at the discovery on the snitch line, I can tell you that there were hundreds of thousands of family members, colleagues, coworkers, people in your neighborhood who took the opportunity, to report to the government that, you know, person x, you know, is believed to have been, at the Capitol that day. Nobody could have known the scope and scale of what had been turned against us. Speaker 5: Wait a minute. Go back to that, the snitch lines. Speaker 16: Yeah. Speaker 5: So so you said there were many people that turned in their family members, relatives Yes. Friends? Speaker 16: Yes. Speaker 17: Wow. Speaker 16: Yeah. No. This is this is well documented, and it's it's in the in the project plum. Anybody any defense counsel that has access can go. And and, there have been various times where I felt physically ill, when I was doing the January 6 cases or doing the interviews of hospital homicide victims where I felt physically ill. That was that was one time because you can see the scope of the effort and the design behind it. You know, this is great leap forward stuff where Yep. They were sponsoring after creating it a denouncement and purge system, that you know, if you look at, actually, it's in the news from just yes yesterday, I believe. A guy, Refit, was resentenced, I guess, by, judge. I was actually had a trial in front of the judge. I can't recall his name right now as I sit here. But, he, actually, no. No. No. That's a different matter. I'm talking about, Friedrich, and she's criticized for, asking the family members to leave the courtroom, and then, you know, she she reimposed of, you know, a a really harsh sentence. Some of the things that are said about in and about her are false, but that's not the here nor there. The the issue is that the, the challenge that we have before us is we have to figure out a way to educate the judiciary, prosecutors, agents, coworkers, people in our neighborhood, people in our church, about the scope and scale of this government, led finance system, which is anathema to the American experience. It never should have happened, and we're just beginning to, the process of peeling back the layers of the onion. The parts of it that have been documented by guys like Mike Benz as it related to masking, anti vaxx, anti lockdowns Uh-huh. It seems to me, almost, I think I I would say certain that those same, resources and, that apparatus focused their efforts on January 6. But we're still behind the eight ball in terms of uncovering this stuff. You know? We're we're now how many years after the the vaccine was released in January 2020, basically, December 2021, the last weeks? And we're it's it's three years later, and we just got the house report, the 05/2020 house report, which basically confirms that everything all of our suspicions were true. Right? So we're we're we're behind the eight ball. There's there's a significant lag lag between, you know, being having these things deployed against us, getting whipsawed and you know, by the carnage that it causes. And then sometime thereafter, you know, the results of the postmortem come out, and it's like, oh, gee. We were right the whole time. Yeah. So we have to compress that timeline and and and try to get more on a proactive offensive footing. But, I mean, I'm thrilled where we are. I see a real strong possibility, although it's not really clear now from the from the courts that seem to be doubling down. I don't see a lot of evidence that the prosecutors that are assigned January 6 cases I don't see any signs in the records that I'm looking at that suggest they say, oh, gee. I have a wedding that week. I need a continuance. Or, oh, gee. The defendant is right that he didn't get this discovery. Your honor, we should really, you know, pump this another month, so we can get that discover. I don't see a lot of evidence of that, which I would have hoped to have seen. I see I see the these organs of power are sort of doubling down in the final days, making sure that they could impose penalties Speaker 5: prior to the part as being hoped. I I was gonna say, do you think that's because they want to make sure that there's convictions and penalties, and then they can go see these awful people that he that I don't but I don't you know, in the court of public opinion 1,500 already. Speaker 16: Yeah. So if and then what my advice would be to my former colleagues, Department of Justice is you don't wanna be anywhere near this. I've told them this from the very beginning, and I told them since 2021 when I got involved in the Ken Harrelson case that this is a classic example of a overreaction. The the government in terms of the, you know, creating a discovery unit known as a capital siege production unit and separating the responsibility for turning over, discovery from a line assistance obligations and comply with ethical, obligations. The pursuit of a shock and awe, I mean, they actually, like, touted this in January, February, March of of of twenty twenty one. This is not the way Department of Justice operates. It's completely inappropriate, and, you know, we're gonna have a bitter harvest from that. So my advice from the beginning has been, like, do whatever you can from your station in life given the restrictions that you're under. Career civil service servants don't have that much authority. I mean, it's it's not the career civil servant service is not created to buck the policy, goals, of the, elected, political leadership. Now and when I say that, people go, yeah. But what happened under, you know, under Trump? Everybody basically, you know, went on strike, or didn't comply. And and I would say, yes. I I I saw that too. It doesn't make it right, and that shouldn't be a model that we should be, facilitating. We have to get that career civil service back on track and back within historical norms of enforcement. Grant frauds we talked about this grant fraud, science fraud, procurement fraud Speaker 6: Mhmm. Speaker 16: Human trafficking, racketeering among NGOs in the human trafficking space, in the censorship space, new theories on competition, section one, section two of the Sherman Act, Clayton Act, Robinson Patman. There's some others between the f FTC and and, the antitrust division you can come up with, theories of harm, theories of consumer harm that, sort of merge, the merge some of these concepts, and you could create you could forge a a new enforcement program that gets at some of these harms. All this is a roundabout way of saying that I'm very encouraged. You know, I I I would expect president Trump and RFK junior to meet with CEOs and have dinner with CEOs of, the US gov you know, American, platinum, big pharma companies. Right? These are massive industries. And, you know, same thing with health care hospitals. You can't just pull the plug on all that and expect to have stability. Right? There has to be, have to be very smart people, lots of economists, lots of, you know, subject matter experts that chart a path to decorrupt our systems and orient those systems, you know, measured by degrees to get them ultimately to true north. Speaker 5: But that can't be a great fit. Yeah. I know there's a lot of people that are very upset about the meetings that have taken place. Like, I don't I don't know how much of people being brought down there, like Mark Zuckerberg, like the executives at Pfizer, like the medium people that were awful. I I don't know how much of that is a, this is what what we know. I I I don't know how much of it is to come to Jesus meeting with them to try to get them to give up information, and how much of it is, you know, there's this knee jerk reaction for people to see, you know, people like Mark Zuckerberg or the pharmaceutical executives going down to Mar A Lago, and they're like, see, he's pandering to them already. But you really don't know if he's pandering to them or if he's laying out the law. You know what I mean? Like, you this is a guy this is a president who showed somebody the picture of their house and so that they would know he could bomb it. Like, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like Yeah. So it's got to have Speaker 16: definitely. Yeah. We'll never know. Right? We don't have that, you know, that sign of pay grade. We'll never know. We have to have faith that there there's so many moving parts here, and and and to get this fixed and back on a track that doesn't result in you know, I remember I I think I did a I think it was in a filing. I think in a file some filing. I forget which what filing it was. But I think it was actually, it's one of our Supreme Court, writ of mandamus. You know, one of the things we pointed to for why a Rita Mandamus was urgently necessary is because you had lots of people at the highest levels of American the American economy and the American political system saying that we're in a path towards instability and civil war. Like, nobody nobody wants that, you know, political disobedience, peaceful protest, all these things. They're all legitimate, you know, using the legal system to push back as hard as you possibly can. That's our obligation. That's our duty. But imagine you're, you know, you're in the in the new administration, and you have to come up with a formula that can lead the world's largest economy. Right now, it's headed maybe, like, east or or at best Northeast. Right? Mhmm. And you gotta get that entire you know, the largest economy in the world, where California, I think, is bigger than, I think, all but maybe four or five governments. Right? So this is like a massive, massive operation that leads through what used to be our rule of law system. It's it's cracked right you know, it's cracked in right now, but, I mean, we used to have a really great rule of law system, and and we wanna get that restored. But you have to get all these things firing on all cylinders. You gotta get the right amount of, accountability. You gotta get everybody to transparency, and you have to create an a general awareness, reopening, to where people can handle the change. The change management doesn't cause a critical mass of people to say, you know what? The US system is bullshit. Let's go to anarchy. Like, I've all of us have zero interest in that. Right? So you have to have leadership where where they can say, okay. We're gonna put this on a five year timeline. We're gonna put this on a seven year timeline. This is what we're gonna do with the financial system. It's not working. We're going to you know, we wanna be we wanna treat cryptos crypto, for instance. Crypto's been targeted now for probably well, certainly, during over the Biden administration. They because there seems there's a perceived legislative gap, The US government kinda made tried to make up for it with enforcement, with their selective prosecution. So you have guys like Roger Ver, who's, like, known as Bitcoin Jesus, who, you know, after being run out of the country, and he's like, look. You know, I'm I'm not gonna be allowed back in. I've gotta, you know, I've gotta, like, cut my contacts because I'm not gonna be able to actually live my life. And they come up with some novel theory, you know, some novel tax theory to continue persecuting the guy. I represent thousands of, Himalayan exchange customers. That's a stable coin reserve that was created, to allow, particularly ethic Chinese who are in closed currency societies to be able to move their capital. You know, if you're in China and you have a big bank account and you have a cousin who's going through cancer therapy in Holland, there's no way to get your money there. Right? So the the folks who created the MLA Exchange said, hey. You know what? This is great. There's no middlemen. There's no requirement that there be financial institutions. We can set up a system where members of the community can loan money to other members of the community who can start businesses, who can pay for tuitions, you know, etcetera. You know, that's really the spirit that crypto came out of. And, you know, right now, our policy is to run anyone involved in crypto outside of The United States rather than for making treating them like chipmakers and, you know, Silicon Valley tech experts where we say, hey. Look. You know, there's some challenges that need to be ironed out, but crypto's important. And, you know, we wanna we wanna have you we wanna make it so that you can have your start ups here and that there's transparency in the regulatory systems where you see that by, you know, subjecting, yourself to these additional regulatory requirements, to the rule of law system, you know, to taxation, that you get, you know, a benefit that outweighs, outweighs all that. It's worth it to be in The United States system. You wanna be in The United States system. So right now, our systems like, I've never in my lifetime, I've never seen such our system in so much flux. It's almost like on a certainly on a week to week basis, but sometimes on a daily basis. You're seeing, like, significant events that can have a material effect on the outcome. So we need to be patient. People who we now identify as, our enemies, maybe we should, view a greater share of those as just opponents, and we should view them as opponents, you know, forever opponents. It could be that they're in the process the awareness, expand expansion process where at some point, they will get on board with us and try to work with us to to get some of these problems fixed. And but in regards to the pardon, that's correct. Does not apply to state actions. We have 50 states. So, you know, those those AGs, those are separate, governmental entities that are not bound by a presidential pardon. That kind of enforcement activity would be, shall we say, would be sort of a break from custom. But, you know, time will tell if breaking from custom is, wiser warranted, in in in these current times. And the other thing I would say is that I personally don't believe, and I don't believe it's been ever questioned or challenged or that there's a, you know, a body of law that discounts what I'm about to say. I don't think that the president can pardon crimes against humanity. So, you know, if there's a select group of people that were and, again, I I'm not there yet. Speaker 1: Crimes against humanity, I think, technically, is taken up by the International Criminal Court, which I don't think we wanna touch with a 10 foot pool. No. And US citizens have, Speaker 16: basically immunity or or they're not, I I don't know if it I don't know how it's legally characterized. Either, like Right. They have immunity or they don't have jurisdiction over American citizen. It there there's some mix mixture there. But I could see you know, remember, there was really no the there wasn't, like, a lot of, how do I say this? A lot of background and a lot of foundational building underneath, Nuremberg. Right? It's like a bunch of people that had the authority, had the power. We are the victors in the war. Came up with what seemed like, you know, a good solution, and, you know, we had Nuremberg. I don't see any reason why if everybody does if if everybody refuses to quit and we keep on pushing, I don't see any reason why you couldn't have some kind of international, group that you know, some, I don't know, international organization that has representation by the different gover I don't know if it's the UN. I'm not really sure, because it's never, you you know, time will tell. You have you need a critical mass of creative people who conclude that something really terrible happened, and we have to make sure that people of the future, that that that that we we we create a process and and and, rule of law results that set a resounding message, to people of the future. Speaker 5: And What is it? Speaker 16: If that were gonna happen, right, we would be at the very beginning stages of that. Like, this is a long effort that we're involved in. It's measured, I'd like to think it's within a decade, but it could be decades. Right? So Yeah. We just gotta keep doing what we're doing, keep on educating, do it with an open heart. You know, and, again, I'm I'm a big proponent of leniency, amnesty with full disclosures at lower levels because, again, if you're in a war of for awareness, if you're if you if you're in a war for, expanding consciousness to where rank and file Americans, come to understand that there's a lot of conduct the US government's been involved in that that, you know, we really don't wanna support. We wanna certainly redirect it. If if it it it if that's how you win when I say war, I'm, I'm of course, I'm hoping I'm talking about a peaceful war, a war of ideas, you know, etcetera. The the the the the key thing to figure out is how you can create a disclosure system that will help get everybody to transparency. Because right now, I can tell you, if you're in Washington, DC, when you're going to serve time on a jury, you think that there's a bunch of violent cavemen that, you know, put the entire American system at risk. They probably think you killed four or five policemen even though that's been debunked. I could go on and on. Right? And the reason they think that is because of taxpayer sponsored and funded government suppression and censorship. And that and I have to believe that there's good people in white hats in our intelligence agencies and in our DOD and in our Department of Justice and in our government that wanna get this fixed. I have to believe that they're struggling to find a way a way forward to get this addressed where it doesn't cause unreasonable risk to our way of life, or to our national security. Speaker 1: What do you think of the idea, Brett, that just as we saw them flip from being, dubious about operation warp speed to literally mandating the same products on employees? If they if they flip it around again after January 20 and they start acknowledging the the harms of these policies and protocols and mandates, and then try to lay it all at the feet of Donald Trump. Speaker 16: I think that's a significant risk, and which is why I mean, I think we implicitly address this with our efforts to break down in general consciousness the idea that, warp speed made perfect sense if all the taxpayer funded experts were telling the truth, and if they didn't have all these undisclosed ulterior motives. Right? Like, if you're and, again, I governor Cuomo, who I'm you know, like, look. Governor Cuomo, how is it that five governors discharge COVID patients into nursing homes? That's completely crazy depraved. Right? But I'm experienced enough to know there's probably they probably have an explanation that includes information that I don't have. And I also suspect that it may have been part of you know, there there may have been government sponsored, whether it's a foreign government or domestic government or it's an NGO. I don't know. Government sponsored efforts to con to corrupt that decision making process. Could they just flip a switch and say, you know, you did warp speed. Warp speed is the problem with all this and give the subsequent administration a pass. Yes. They could. But if we do our work and educate everybody that the issue we have is there's a administrative state that's locust, in Western governments and NGOs that is largely corrupted by funding from undisclosed sources, including countries like the CCP, that functions outside the influence or control of our elected representatives and leaders. Like, that's the problem. If you're if you're a governor or you're a president and your smartest taxpayer funded people come in and say, hydroxychloroquine and zinc, we thought it worked, but it doesn't work. It creates a gap in your heartbeat. You're gonna just kill everybody. Right? Or, look, I know that all the research shows that masking isn't good, but I've reviewed this, mister president, and, what I've discovered is is very disturbing. If we don't make sure that two year olds get masked, there's, you know, there's gonna be a mass die off among their grandparent. I mean, whatever it is, I'm oversimplifying it, and I'm not suggesting any of these things happen. But you can imagine being surrounded, whether you're president Biden or you're president Trump. You can imagine being surrounded by captured, corrupted, worm tongues that are being paid on the taxpayer dime to give objective risk assessments to our elected officials, and that system completely, utterly failed. So I give I'm inclined to give elected officials, and then this is no one likes this, a pass. You know? Speaker 5: I'm more concerned much of a pass? So how much of a pass? Because they you know, I do understand where you you have to rely on so called experts to give you specific information because you can't be as a leader, you're not an expert on everything, and so you surround yourself by experts. But at at some level, it also is your responsibility to, to look beyond it. And I when it comes to Trump, you know, he he did listen to many different people, and he did talk about hydroxychloroquine. I'm not sure so sure I would give Mike Pence a pass, for example, because he, got rid of anybody who was talking about hydroxychloroquine, you know, and and called them dangerous. So, like, where do you draw that line with elected officials Speaker 16: I don't I don't have to draw that line. In your past. What I'm concerned about is creating a disclo creating incentives and markets for mass full disclosures. Right? Like, in every level, whether it's Jan six, whether you're a Jan sixer, whether you're a police, whether you're a member, you know, anybody involved with Jan six, anybody involved with hospital homicides, anybody involved with vaccines, anybody involved with, instances where the US Department of Justice may have engaged in selective prosecutions. Like, I'm I'm less concerned about, you know, in Nuremberg, you had maybe 100,000 or 200,000 Germans who probably could have been prosecuted for war crimes. Speaker 11: Right. As it turned down a 120 Speaker 16: or whatever were right? Right. There's, like, a thousand who were, you know, subject of the the the equivalent of a grand jury investigation and maybe a 110, 120, whatever it was That were prosecuted. Speaker 5: Prosecuted. Right? So Yeah. And 40 only, like, 29 of them actually got the death penalty. So people do talk about Nuremberg like it was this this huge thing where masses of people were executed, and it's not true. Speaker 16: But but it it but that is a that is a huge thing. Like, that kind of accountability in terms of, like, human history, that was a huge, huge, huge thing. Like, huge beyond beyond belief huge. And but it's important to recognize, like, regarding this. Like, if you had if you had 30 you know, prosecutions where everybody saw it as a fair trial, the trials were made public, let's let's say a dozen. Let's say you had a dozen, and let's include Fauci in there. Right? And they got prosecuted for if if, again, if the evidence, supported this and, you know, you had a jury of his peers and yet you create a system where everybody on all sides of the equation would say he he had justice. Through a process like that, he was convicted of capital crimes. Mhmm. That would be a huge, huge, massive success. Because to get there, it's all the stuff that has to happen before before that to get there. It's just like the final report card. Like, to get there, you had to have a world war, and you had to have, like, thousands of eyewitness accounts of, liberating prison camps. And, oh my god, there's experimentation in the prison camps. And, oh my god, it's not just Germany. It's Japan. And, oh my like, on and on. And then send around all the all the staff sergeants with typewriters and interview the whole town around Auschwitz. And, you know, like, just I don't care who you interview. Just start interviewing and just start documenting. Like, it that was just an ultimate report card on the great work that everybody did leading up to that. So and by the way, I'll just tell you, like, I would if it were a choice between total transparency and getting all this information out where it can be part of the collective historical record that cannot be memory hold Mhmm. I would be for, no accountability at all. Speaker 5: I know. A lot of people a lot of people No. I know. They just agree. Victims I understand. You know, they had loved ones that were killed and that I mean, I can I get it? I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I would also I I would it's kinda like one of those situations where you can't find the body of somebody who was murdered and you give somebody leniency to find the body so that the family can have peace and peace of mind. And and it can be admitted that it happened from from there there is a big part of me that would agree with you in saying, yeah, because we need the truth to be told and these victims to be validated. I personally don't think we will see people prosecuted anyways unless we find the, what, the smoking gun, which we don't have. We already no. We no. Believe me. Speaker 16: Trust me. Smoking guns are all over the place. If you go and you pull the communications Yeah. The communications. Our public health agencies and big pharma and you can panel grand juries But we don't have a team. Moderna, and you have one over, you you have one involving Pfizer, and you have one involving J and J, and you have one involving AstraZeneca. Speaker 5: So And You don't have that today. Speaker 16: No. But Right. Again, the January 20 I'm not suggesting I'm not I I I have no inside knowledge about what the like, if if somebody were asking me, nobody's asking me as far as I know, I I would I would actually take another approach. If I actually wanted to get there, I would just take all of the Department of Justice resources and the OIGs. There's some systemic changes you could make. All the OIGs, there's probably 80 or 90 of them now. Each has three components. I would take the audit component, and I would generate red flags and then and create a system that requires them to to turn the red flags over to investigations. I would have multiple task forces that held each other accountable where, you could, there's things you could do with the qui tam the false claims act Mhmm. Process where you can make sure that, local US Attorney's offices intervene. You can, I would focus on actually, we laid this out in our Facebook suit, pages 46 through one zero eight? You could just basically follow that game plan that begins with the activity from August 2019 through roughly, February 2021. That would be your scope. And, you know, there was an effort, a corrupt effort to sabotage hydroxychloroquine, a corrupt effort to sabotage ivermectin. This, a big part of this effort was grant fraud and science fraud, that was being perpetrated by universities. There's a racketeering system that exists between, scientists at big pharma and, the, research journals. Get a look at all their financial stuff. Yep. And I would just keep it, like, base hit cases. You know? Like, you took in a million dollar grant, and, you diverted two thirds of that once a year, you know, your France vacation or something. And I would just do lots and lots of those, do five k ones for cooperation, and then just work up work up the chain. At the end of the day, after three or four years, you're probably gonna get to, you know, at least a couple dozen high level prosecutions where you have the national, necessary foundational work in terms of, like, getting what actually happened into the public space. I mean, that's really I see that as the biggest like, we still don't know. Like, how did five states discharge all their COVID cases? If there are even COVID cases, it might have been flu cases. How did they discharge them into, nursing homes? Speaker 1: Yes. And, Brad, you're missing one. We we know about the the democratic the democratic governors that were doing this. But Tom Wolfe, when I was when I was looking into this, I found that Tom Wolfe, who's Republican governor of Pennsylvania through 2023, Speaker 16: he did the same thing. And Oh, yeah. No. No. I to be clear, I Speaker 1: I I am sitting there the sixth to one there. Speaker 16: No. No. And I think also, I believe Ohio may have been one too. And, again, I'm going on public reporting, so our sample might not be good. It just may be that some reporter did a story on something and we happen to see it. Right? It it it could be all states. Like, we don't know. Nobody's putting put any effort into it. And, no, I am not giving Republicans a pass. You know, like, the the the the the I I I think the problems go way beyond that. Mhmm. Speaker 18: Agree. Speaker 5: Hey. I just wanna point mention to people because people are hanging on your every word. But if you want to speak, just press the little microphone. If you have a story about COVID related crimes against humanity, we're also talking about, you know, some of the blanket pardons that are being, touted or talked about. So if you want to if you wanna speak, please just press the press the button. And if you have questions for any of the people who are speaking, raise your hand. Just wanted to get that out there. Carry on, Brad. Speaker 16: Yes. So that's the that's basically the gist of it is that and then, you know, now I see in the January 6 community, which I'm pretty plugged into, I see a lot of anger directed towards the judiciary and a lot of anger directed towards, you know, the line prosecutors. And I respectfully think that that misses a lot of it it you know, just like the prosecution's missed the overall context Mhmm. Of what happened on January 6, I think that that response, is is is missing the important context. The important context is the more tied in you were to the establishment, the more reliance you had on traditional media, the networks, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal. The more you had your human interactions distilled down onto controlled, social media platforms, the more your, sense of objective reality was corrupted and perverted. Like, I I have to believe that these judges in, you know, who oversaw January 6 cases that they, to this day, believe that the severity of how they dealt with this, you know, based on their risk assessment and based on how they see the world and based on the information they have, they're defending the nation. They're defending the rule of order and the rule of law, and they're defending the interest of justice. Right? Like, it it isn't that they're, you know, in a backroom rubbing their hands together. I got another one. That is not how it that isn't how it's happening. Right? But how can we expect them to have a clear view on what happened when I'm pretty sophisticated in this area? I've spent a lot of like, way too much time trying to figure it out. I've only, like, connected a lot of the dots in the last six months in terms of how bad I mean, I I I knew the information control system was oppressive in regards to January 6 as it was with early treatment, as it was with what's happening in hospitals. But where I I have a more sophisticated, view now, it's that there were massive administrative state government resources put into this. And they created a hermetically sealed bubble that it wasn't just you know, like, I've said this before. Like, the members of our organization, they're the ones that we were unable to reach in 2020 in 2000 beginning of 2021 because of, you know, Facebook and Twitter suppression protocols. And I knew that there was some, government involvement that became clear just prior to our amending the Facebook suit. I think it was, whoever whatever that whistleblower James, can't think of his last name. He had a whistleblower, that explained there was coordination between Facebook and the government, but I didn't realize the full extent. I mean, you had in Twitter, if I understand this right, this is based on public information. I think I have this right. When Elon came in and bought Twitter, he fired, like, 80% of the staff without any you know, it it didn't, adversely impact his operations at all because most of them were involved. The most of them were former government agency personnel who were engaged in, censorship, that was we now know was directed by the government. Like, I'm just learning about this now, and I've availed myself of all these podcasts and alternative media forms. And if you're a judge living in DC, like, I I doubt very much that those guys that those guys and those those, women, this is inaccessible to them. And I suspect that there's additional government imposed blocks, filters, whatever you wanna call it, that makes it even harder for them to access the information that we can see. So I'm sympathetic, because I know that when they have the full this is this is my this is my my mind, like, what's in my mind. Like, I know that five years from now, when they get the full if we're successful with getting the full picture out, I believe that they will have regret, profound regret. And they will they will, you know, have to rationalize that. And one of the things that I think that they will say to themselves is, gee, I had no idea that there was this massive government apparatus that was that was altering my sense of reality. Speaker 1: Really, really good complaints. Speaker 16: So all these things are happening at once. I mean, as we said, Jan six if you're a police officer Jan six or you're a January, I believe that his history will show that that was an event that had a lot of help in its creation and and in how it devolved by, the government, only some of whom were elected representatives. Same thing with lockdowns. Same thing with hospital homicides. Same thing with vaccine mandates. I mean, you had a system where almost all universities around the country forced their children to get vaccines in order to get an education. State institutions did this. State universities did this. Like, you wanna talk about a tulip craze. Like, we were caught up in a tulip craze where where everybody we can or the only thing we could rely on is that everybody would react and act out of fear, terror, and without any cold deliberation, logic, or reasoning. And so I'm way more concerned I'm way more interested in to the extent that that wasn't organic. Like, you know, we have the emergence of COVID, you know, and we're led to believe that all these things were, like, organic reactions to COVID. It's like, okay. That's one, that that's one view. But my view is that COVID had help in its creation. COVID may have had help in in in how and when, it was released. I mean, I think after 520 page report, I think it's definitively shown that we released COVID. So our best defense as a nation is that it was released, by mistake inadvertently. And I happen to think that it's very it's very possible, based on what I'm seeing, that some may have helped release it intentionally. And then you just have a whole series of where basically everybody got gaslit. If you're the president of The United States on down, if you're a governor on down, the systems had devolved to such a point to be so corrupt that taxpayer funded experts that were whispering in the ears of governors and presidents, had undisclosed conflicts, I'm putting as mildly as I possibly can, that, should have been disclosed. Speaker 17: And, Speaker 16: you know, then you just have the normal the normal normal stuff with Western political systems where people will take anything and and and, you know, try to use it as a as a way to benefit their their their their political aspirations. You know, that's our system. But I continue to see it as our big challenge is to get the transparency. If we get the transparency, we can get we can increase everybody's consciousness. And in order to get the transparency, you have to create markets for disclosures, and you have to incentivize disclosures, and you have to share you have to you have to make the people who are making the disclosures not associate their disclosure with the destruction of their vocation or, you know, a lifetime in prison or, worse. And that that's the challenge. Like, how do you get, how do we make these disclosures about our system where we look at our warts, we see it clearly, and we say, look. There were mistakes made. There were some bad people. They should be held accountable. But the vast majority of people were acting within reason. And, with the proper disclosures and, with, you know, expressions of contrition and a request for forgiveness, and that's that happens on a broad enough base, then I think we could get another, many more centuries out of this old gal, this American experience. Speaker 1: Well said. Exciting times. Really looking forward to, to finally seeing all of our all of our hard work and due diligence over the last several years. Finally, start to to get some traction in the justice and accountability department over the next several years. Laurie, good to see you up, and then Julie. Speaker 3: Hello, everybody. Yeah. I've just given update on my on my, on my Pfizer shedding. Of course, that's real too, and they're hiding that. You know? They're hiding that, but it's I'm kinda worried. Like, some people say that, you know, that since I inhaled their all their chromosomes when they're in my car, some people actually literally say that now I'm I'm vaccinated from just inhaling all their chromosomes in my car. But and some people say I am on x when they, you know, private message me or and some people say they're not that I'm not. But, like, it I mean, like, why am I suffering for over three and a half years? You know, why is my d dimer high? You know? So I don't know. I mean, you know, they they say about Japan, you know, they made a big deal about Japan, you know, self replicon. You know? Well, you know, right here, you know, in in The United States, you know, they just passed the FDA just, approved the the bird flu, self replicon mRNA shots, which we all know that they're gearing up to release, what, you know, January 21, the day after Trump gets in or whatever. So but what I'm saying is that I think they already did it with Pfizer. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what to say. I mean, I think that I don't know if that's a possibility, if they already pulled it off with Pfizer already with the, self replicon on that, with the mRNA, the gene therapy based thing going on there. But, I go I go see my doctor, this week, this Thursday. I see my family doctor, and, I guess I'll let you guys know what's going on with my d dimer. But, I mean, I think, you know, we all should get a d dimer. When you get your, you know, your blood your blood done, get it, you know, if your doctor can give it to you. Some doctors are trying to hide it. But, you know, even if you're if even if you didn't take shots, still try to get it because we're still exposed to inhaling, you know, whatever they're exhaling out there that's making our blood clumping. But, yeah, I think it's probably along a long road and, of course, they're hiding that. Now now the cash guy, the the, the director was that the cash guy, the director, or whatever? Now, he has he does know about the the shedding. Harry Fisher did, post some, stuff that he said, about the shedding, how it was real, and then how it was very dangerous. So, I mean, that's that's good that that he brought some attention to it, you know, back in the day. I never heard of him before, so I really I never even knew about him, but I just I I just wanna, I wanna get justice for myself, and all along with the injured people the injured people that are that are messed up because they believed in their doctors and the media and the government and all that. But, you know, when you when you think, you know, you didn't take any shots and you'd be fine and and dandy and everything, it just you know, it takes one car ride, one one, one car ride. It takes, you know, for you to go into, a crowded space and breathe in all their chromosomes and, be messed up Speaker 5: just as bad as they are. I mean, I've heard I've heard Judy Mankovitz many times, doctor Mankovitz say all shots all shots shed. I don't know why people would think that the the COVID shot doesn't shed when they've already admitted it, the creators of the shot that it sheds. I mean They talked about exposure via inhalation or skin contact, and they were con concerned about, pregnant persons Speaker 1: Yeah. Through breastfeeding. So this is all in your own documents. Speaker 5: Right. Exactly. That's I mean, so what like, but to be clear, nobody's vaccinated because it's not a vaccine. Speaker 3: I don't I don't know, I I don't know. What I'm saying is that, that it's kinda scary that my blood is now clumping. Yeah. It's bad enough that I I've been suffering with, the headaches and and the vision the vision issues. I mean, a lot of other issues did go away. I mean, like I said, I could talk all night about what happened to me and what went on with me. I inhaled really bad batches. It was, like I said, a mother and daughter, and and the mother lasted three almost three years from her first Pfizer shot. And the daughter is over there. Last time I heard, she still has the massive chronic headaches, and she's having she's having some tremors and and, like, compulsions and stuff like that. So I I'd held some really some really bad Pfizer batches. They both had, you know, one or two shots. And so, you know, I'm I'm actually surprised I'm still living it. You know? I really am. So because people do die from shedding. So Have you asked your doctor about, Speaker 1: you know, aspirin and the kinases, like, and the others? Speaker 3: Yeah. I was I was taking an anakinase. I was I was taking all I was taking that. I guess I can I can go back on it? I mean, it's fairly cheap. You know, it's really cheap. You can get it in Amazon really cheap. I'm gonna I guess I'm gonna see what my d dimer is when I get my blood when I get my blood work done this Thursday. And, I guess I'll go from there. But, I it's in the blood. You know? And you you see that woman, you know, that doctor Anna, you know, you see her. And I'm not I mean, I don't think you can inhale the nano buds. I mean, I'm not buying that. I know you can inhale the spike proteins and the lipid nanoparticles. And I don't think there I don't think you can inhale the mRNA. I don't think so, but I'm not sure on that. So I don't know exactly what, what all we could inhale. But, if you inhale the lipid nanoparticles, see, that's the problem. I think that's what's causing the the clotting and the jab and and in me because it's the lipid nanoparticles because I inhaled it. I inhaled the lipid nanoparticles from them in my car, and I think you can inhale those. But I don't know how to get those out. And once they cross your blood brain barrier, you know, how do you get it out? Because when you inhale something, when I inhaled it, it went right to my it went straight to my brain. And, Speaker 1: Yeah. You you can't you can't get those out of your system. They they break down and, deposit, whatever they're full of, and then your body deals with whatever is left. Speaker 4: And just so everyone knows, the lipid nanoparticles are the carriers. They're the Speaker 3: they're What do you think that I inhaled? I I I'm pretty sure that I inhaled the the spike proteins and the lipid nanoparticles, but I don't think I don't think the mRNA can be inhaled. I don't I don't think I think you have to physically get the shots to have the mRNA because, like I said, I had three I g g four test done. I had three of them done in June, Speaker 1: and one that was at an independent laboratory. I think Miriam did a science that chimed in with something, Miriam. Yeah. The lipid nanoparticles, Lori, are the carriers. Speaker 4: They actually contain the mRNA. The mRNA is what produces the spike protein. So lipid nanoparticles are are literally they're fats that line whatever's inside of they they cover whatever's inside the lip lipid nanoparticles so that it keeps your it preserves the mRNA from being broken down by the body's normal defense systems. So they a lot of the scientists have now noted that there's multiple different payloads, meaning inside of the lipid nanoparticles, not just mRNA, but other things. So it's really difficult to know what any person will have unless they actually have their blood looked at by physicians like doctor Anna, Mihalzia, whom you mentioned. She does it both with dark, microscopy as well as bright field microscopy. So unless you're getting that looked at, you cannot know what you have been exposed to and what you potentially have in your body. The d dimer test actually just looks at the clotting effect, which is a it is a downstream effect from anything that produces inflammation in your body, and inflammation is produced by anything that the body finds to be foreign because of the way the body mobilizes itself. So it's very difficult. Again, the dimer is simply finding the symptom downstream, the clotting from what has been absorbed or or found in the body in the bloodstream. So real difficult to know unless you're getting those tests done, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to treat it. There are documented studies that show that lumbar kinase, nattokinase, and serrapeptase all help with breaking down spike proteins, which in and of itself produces inflammation and clotting as well. So there's just so many different things that it can be at this point. The best thing you can do is to try to address what you know. And if you do have a high d dimer, you wanna get things going that help reduce fibrin, which is part of that process as well. And, any and we know that nattokinase, lumbar kinase, serrapeptase, all those help with reducing fibrin. Okay? And that's a test that any doctor can do. They can do a fibrinogen test, which will tell you that as well. So very important. You know, it's great that you know that you have a high d dimer, but you have to treat the causative factor. And one thing that will help is reducing the the fibrin. That's those white rubbery things that they pulled out of people's vessels, and that's part of the clotting process. So I'm not a doctor, but I've done a lot of research on it, and I do have a medical background. So you wanna get you a doc who will do the tests and then get you started consistently on a product that helps break up that clotting cascade and the fibrin production that goes along with it because that's what produces the problem with lack of oxygenation to your tissues. It causes lack of blood flow to different organs, and it can cause symptoms anywhere in the body as a result because that little bitty those little bitty tiny clots can get in the capillaries and the small vessels and cause major problems through all the systems in your body. So the fur very first step you need to do is get a doc who will do the testing and then use the right protocols. So, that's my 2¢, and I'm gonna land my plane right there. Speaker 1: Very, very well said, Miriam. I think that those you should, go back after the space and and look at the transcript, Lauren, because there's a lot of good information in, in what Miriam just laid out. Coyote Sanctuary also posted some resources in the purple pill, which I have pinned to the nest. You might check those out. The the screenshot he shared, is talking about major implications for the shedding story, and, I know you'll wanna read that. Sherry also suggested that you might want to ask doctor Judy Mickiewicz about this. She's talked at length about this, and she just happens to be on a concurrent space right now on Jeremiah's space with, doctor Kimberly Biss and, doctor z and John Badon and others. So you might you might try popping over there and asking doctor Judy because she would certainly know all about the shedding. If if Miriam didn't thoroughly answer your question, which I think she she gave you some really good resources. So I hope that helps, Lori. Julie, really glad to have you on tonight. How are you doing? Speaker 18: Oh, thanks. And, yeah, I was actually I'm on both spaces on both phones. So, and I was gonna mention that to Lori. So doc over in that Jeremiah space, it's mostly the legal stuff. And doctor Joseph Sansone, is the one that he brought on because he's filed, a lawsuit in Florida and specifically it includes shedding because that happened to him. So I would definitely hop over there. Sorry. That's duplicate spaces, but we're all friends. And hear what or ask doctor Sansone and so doctor Sansone's over there right now getting affidavits from all the doctors that prove that this is a bioweapon and prove that it causes shedding and prove that the vaccines are harmful. So he's getting all these affidavits from doctor Mykavits, doctor Biz, doctor Thorpe, da da da, doctor Marble. So yeah, I would definitely pop over there and listen to that. It's not so much a doctor space like how what treatment you take because I know doctor Mykowitz will tell you not to take nanokinase. She is not a fan of that. She's not a fan of any pharmaceutical drugs. So I take her chlorine dioxide solution to keep my my my body clean. But anyway, so, there's that. You know, it's so interesting. I you just wonder at what point everybody in this country is not completely thoroughly pissed off because we've been harmed no matter what situation you're in. So this is, you know, doctor Fauci, doctor Barrett characters create this freaking virus, synthetic garbage in some freaking labs who knows where. And so people that have not been vaccinated, not been hospitalized, but got the COVID are harmed by the bioweapon. And so and they've been killed and, you know, all this, you know, all the fear mongering. And now they've got long COVID. And so then you've got the people like me who, until recently, never had COVID. So but I got injured by the vaccine. And, and that's like Lindsay. She's throttled, but she's never had COVID. And, so it's crazy. You're like every why aren't the people that got the virus not and then you got the shedding people. It's like, yeah. It's so crazy that everybody's not all pissed off and ready to, you know, go after everybody. But, you know, the it's just so bizarre to me. I what planet are we living on? And I will tell you this. When I and I because I didn't think I had COVID ever until last month. So last month, I was down in Santa Clara County to go to a a little thing that, Doctor. Cole was speaking at, but I also went into Santa Clara County, into Sunnyvale to a junior high to address congressman Ro Khanna, who was my mom's congressman, and I wanted to bring to him her CICP claim and ask him for help in dealing with the federal government HRSA to get my mom's claim moving, like, where is it? And that's what he's supposed to do as a congressman. If you need help with the federal agency, you bring it to him. So I literally wanted to go to him in person. And so and Ronald F. Owens junior filmed it. So there was that weekend. I came home, got a sore throat, and lost my freaking taste and smell. I'm like, oh my god. I got I went into the belly of the beast into a gym surrounded by overly vaccinated seniors who are obsessed with their boosters and their flu shots and then and I got shed on. I'm like, oh my god. I came home so sick. I'm like, oh my god. I got shed on. This is just what Lori's talking about. I'm like, I'm pissed off. So I immediately called doctor Marble and got my ivermectin and got over it. But I'm like, this is crazy. So anyway, thank you guys for always holding this space. It's really important that people get an opportunity to share their stories and continue to, you know, be able to voice what's going on because it's such a tragedy. And I also came up to brag about myself a little bit which I hate doing, but I went down to Sacramento on Wednesday and gave testimony before the California Board of Pharmacy. And I swear it was like giving testimony to Congress because it was more formal and there was like this table and me and Ron Owens were sitting there and, I nailed it. I have not I mean, this was a three minute me being very pointed, very direct, and I gave them a lot of this is what I expect of you from the board of pharmacy and, you know, everything from please make sure that you're protecting the employees of your pharmacies who are having to basically administer and inject people with a, you know, known toxin. So I'm trying to protect your employees much less the consumers that you are the protection agent for of California, and that you need to be honest. And you need to make sure that are your pharmacists trained in VAERS as they should be? Because there's over 26,000 reports that they filed since 2017 for things like the flu shot and the RSV and the pneumonia and all this stuff. And I gave them all the VAERS reports. I'm like, here's the, you know, 87 dead people. Please go investigate where which pharmacists are having the problems. And when I came here a year ago, I told you guys there were seventy four. So thirteen dead people, blood on your hands. I mean, I literally said that. So there's the six minute video down below. It's I'm trying to, again, get it pushed out to as many people so I get some traction on it. And Ron Owens was pretty clear too. So we're gonna keep going back every month to that board of pharmacy and, and then, you know, see where that lands. But yeah. And then the day before, we were in Tehama County, which is north of Butte County here. So that was my eighth county to visit and put them on notice and tell them that they're injuring people, the whole story that I keep telling them everywhere I go. So that was the seventh county, and we did a little interview with Angela Kasler. And I put her ex Twitter handle down below. She's never shared her vaccine injury story publicly until last week. And this woman is throttled by Pfizer to the point where she's got nanotech in her blood that doctor Robert Young is filming. So she's filming her blood with wires and and all sorts of horrible things. This parasite and all horrible things and you can see it in the blood. She's had this she spent $75,000 getting her blood recycled. It's like and so that's the first time and she's she's coming out. So I keep telling her come to the Saturday night thing. Hopefully Mick maybe I just sent Mick her information can interview her because she's she said she'd go stay professor. And, she's a campfire survivor. This woman had to drive through the Paradise campfire y'all literally with fire at in her at around her car. So and she's this little mild mannered Asian. I'm just amazing woman. So anyway, I hope that I get her more into x spaces but yeah. Just, you know, sitting here try to, you know, do what we're trying to do, you know. It's just crazy but commend commending you guys for holding these spaces every Saturday night. It's extremely important. So thank you so much. Thank you, Julie. I mean, yeah, you can't stress it enough that Speaker 5: it's so important that people tell their stories, that they talk about it, that we normalize talking about it, that, you know? I mean, I appreciate everything that you're doing to make, to make it normal to talk about, to to put people on the spot, to get the word out there because people do come forward when they hear other people come forward. Not just and not just the the shot stories, but the protocol stories too. We need people to come forward. The more people come forward, the the more chance we have of getting something done. Who's next? Chelsea? Speaker 1: We're happy to have Vindog Radio with us this evening. Vindog. Vindog. Speaker 8: VinDog. Sorry. I had to just say that. Speaker 5: His last name is really not dog. Word has it. Speaker 19: Well, it's for it's, first name, mister, last name, dog. No. I'm just kidding. So, mister dog, what it what That's what I used to tell kids. That's what I used to tell the kids when they would ask when they call the radio station back in That's funny. Oh, man. No. I'm just, stopping by, showing my support, and, just, thanking you guys for, bringing me people to, to tell their stories about these protocol desks because it's not being told enough like you said, Gal and Chelsea. Yeah. Man, Thursday was a really was a really knockout, podcast. Those nurses hit it out of the park Yeah. I must say. And it was really, really good. So, I just say we just gotta keep on moving the ball down the road and, you know, not wait on these numbskulls in Washington. Let's just keep pushing it. We have to force we have to force feed these people. Speaker 5: I agree. Yeah. I agree. We have to keep keep doing that. And I've got this week, we're doing Wednesday and Thursday. Right? Speaker 19: Yep. Yep. Wednesday at 05:00 your time? Mhmm. Central. And, Thursday and Thursday the. Yep. Speaker 1: So mhmm. And if you missed last Thursday's space, it is pinned up in the nest on x and on Rumble. I hope you guys check that out. Deborah Mose and NurseNet were just awesome, and, they they had the lay of the land so totally covered between them. I barely needed to say word. Speaker 19: Yeah. I just let them roll. Speaker 5: Yep. Speaker 19: That's good. Yeah. It was yeah. So I I'm glad we're able to add extra, extra, episodes to that too so that we can really push this out into the troposphere because, I've asked some people to do that, and they're kinda hesitant. But I do have one more person, Gail, that is, in the broadcast industry that does wanna take on some of this. Okay. Great. I'll have to send you his information. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 19: Yeah. He does a radio show from home, but it's out of Colorado. So it's out of Greeley, Colorado. Speaker 18: Yeah. Include me, VinDogg. It's Julie. Thank you. Hi, Julie. Hi, Julie. Hi, sweetie. Speaker 5: Yeah. Good to hear you on here. Mhmm. Speaker 19: So, yeah, we'll we'll definitely do that. Connect us up because Speaker 5: we can we can supply an endless supply of people who are willing to talk about what's happened to them. And, yeah, we we can. So, I have December pretty much, you know, locked up. I'm just just, confirming availability with a few more people, and then you'll have a whole schedule for December. But, yeah, send connect with Speaker 1: that on Thursday, so I'll even be on there. Mhmm. Speaker 19: Okay. Sounds good. Sounds good. Alright. So, whoever's up next, I just gonna keep on push forward and let you know that the support is here still. So we're good to go. Yep. Speaker 5: Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Ben. We really we appreciate the heck out of it. Speaker 19: Absolutely. Absolutely. Speaker 1: And now with an update on his recent arrest or how that all ended up going down, Michael Jackson. No relation. Speaker 21: Go ahead, Mike. Hey, everybody. How are you doing? Good to see you. Yeah. I actually just, I had my sentencing hearing yesterday, actually, and it was absolutely brutal. So I think most people on here or a lot of people on here probably know my story that I, I went into hiding with my seven year old daughter in, December '21 to prevent her from being vaccinated. I was, on the run for three months. We were I was arrested with my daughter. I went through a lot of difficult times. They threw me in a Supermax jail for a year. I literally have not spoken to my daughter in almost three years since the day I was arrested. Been through a sham trial. Some of the best experts in the world on it were denied the ability to testify on my behalf. And, yes, there was my sentencing. So, I got there, and, it was pretty obvious the judge was extremely angry during the sentencing. I wasn't allowed to speak or anything like that. So I basically just sat there and listened to her try to script the or skin this the strip the skin off my body. She said that, that it's evil people like me is the reason why the government has changed the law in Canada to go after parents who, you know, protect not like her words, take their children. And, you know, and and then she said, for a baseless claim of how the vaccine hurts people. So she said with no evidence, I provided no evidence. And in my trial, I tried many occasions to to enter evidence, and I was denied. Sorry. I just came out of a walk. But, it was just brutal. She she said that I'd done so much damage to my child, you know, by by taking her for those ninety days and, you know, taking her from her school and all these things and that everything I I was just evil, basically. And that, I deserve the fact that I haven't been able to speak to my daughter in three years. And, anyway, she sentenced me, and it was by force. You could tell because she she mentioned it in twice. I'm sure it's the same in your country. We have what's called a parity law rule when sentencing a a a someone who's been convicted of something. And what that means is you can't just give somebody ten years for something you've traditionally given somebody, like, you know, three months for sort of thing. So she kept saying how she's bound by this rule, but you can tell she's just so upset. So I got sentenced to time served. So I was really expecting to have to go back to jail for a couple more years because of the way things have been running. But, I have basically got time served because I served a year. And, in Reman, that turns out to be eighteen months time and a half. And, so and then she sends me to two years probation and community work, which means, you know, I can come home now. I just actually got home, like, an hour ago. Holy cow. That's amazing. Speaker 5: Praise God. So you Well don't go to jail? Speaker 21: I well, I've been I don't go back. Right. You don't go back. Go back. Yes. And I And and I'm gonna share this because I know there's believers on here. So I'm gonna I'm gonna share a miracle story about this. So, obviously, I've been having a hard time since I've been out of jail. Like, not being able to speak to my daughter, going through this whole criminal process, and just watching the police and the the corruption and the lawyers they gave me who who turned out to be fake. And Yep. It's just been it's so bad. Right? And, you know, my joining Twitter and you know, I know that I have support there, but, like, the fundraiser was, like, you know, the it's, like, $2,000 is all I've raised in six months. I need, like, 25,000. Mhmm. And it's, like, it's just been hard. And I and I've been questioning, you know, God all the time. Like, what is going on? Like, where are you? Like, I know I chose this path, and I'm so thankful that God chose me. Yada yada yada. And I'm not trying to diminish that, but it doesn't mean much when you're going it it's supposed to, but in some cases, it's hard to to to rely on that when you're going through it. Right? Yeah. And, so I'm at a men's breakfast this morning that a a bunch of believers, you know, who've been praying for me pretty hard, and I wanted to share the blessing with them. And and the one guy pulls me over, and he says, you know, Michael, yesterday morning at 07:00, he said you were probably still driving because it was like a three hour drive for me. He He said you're probably still driving, but I tell you, I was sitting in my big chair in my living room in the dark. My school bus outside was warming up, and he said all of a sudden, I lost my vision. It was just black, completely blind. And he said, he said, lord, like, what what's going on? He was praying at the time, I guess. And, he said that he got brought into a courtroom, and in the courtroom was a judge sitting on the bench. And standing beside the judge was this giant angel. And the angel was so big he had to duck to fit in the room. And the angel bent down and started whispering in the judge's ear, And the judge was angry, turned to face the angel and was yelling at the angel and arguing with the angel and, like, extremely angry. And this went on for a little while, he said, and then the angel reached down and put his hand on the judge's head and turn the judge's head away from him facing forward to the people in the in the courtroom and bent down and whispered to the judge, you will follow God's will. Speaker 5: That's amazing. Speaker 21: And, basically, like, you know, the fill in the blank, like, release him. Right? Let him go. Mhmm. And, I was blown away because this guy you know, I I knew that something was going on because the judge was so mad when she was reading it. Right? Like, he was she was angry. I mean, I put the link up. I don't know if anybody on here watched the hearing because I I put the link on my, Twitter page so people could watch it live, but he was angry and mad. And it was, just to hear that, you know, I felt that, you know, there's so few of these people when, like Julie's saying, traveling around and doing all this, they don't have any fear of the Lord. Most people on earth do not have that fear of the Lord for what for what they've done or what they're continuing to do, and there's so many even of us believers who don't have the fear of the Lord anymore. And, I felt that by her I just felt that something had like, why, after all the time this judge has broken the law I mean, literally broken the law in my case to convict me. Right? Why now did she not hang me out to dry and throw me back in prison? And I I just felt that the fear of the Lord must she must be tasting it now. Like, something must be happening. Right? And for that Speaker 5: sorry. Go ahead. No. I was gonna ask you. So what so what's, like, the next fight? Is it getting, the rights to see your daughter? Speaker 21: Well, no. Because because the judgment I mean, obviously, I wish. Yes. But the judgment, the sentencing was so harsh. Her words, like, literally painted me to be the most evil man in the whole country. Right? So what I've been telling everybody since day one when I come on these things and I talk about what's going on in Canada is that this is not about me, whether you like me, my character, anything like this. This is about the government of Canada lusting after our parental rights, like vampires, like blood. Right? They want our rights so bad. They wanna you know, they've been in in both our countries, they've been removing the father from the family for generations so that the children are vulnerable. Right? You can you can go back and there's so many examples of how society's changed because the father's been gone. So in Canada now, with the transgender and the mutilating and the COVID and the all the vaccines and all the injuries and everything, They're trying to remove the father from the family so that the children are vulnerable. So and I've been telling this to people. I said, I need support. I you know, lawyers are expensive. You know, this. I need I need you know, I need your help. Right? And nobody's done anything in my country. I get more support here than I get in my own country by far. Australia, all these other places. So after the the sentencing was done, this my transgendered crown, you know, this this this person that has no respect for family or rights or anything about children, says to me, I'm going outside. The press is wanting, media scrum. Are you gonna join? Like like, we're friends. Right? And I just look at this person. I say, are you joking? I say, I have nothing to say to them. You go and tell them what you need to tell them. And the words out of her mouth was the devil laid his cards on the table, and I'm so thankful because I'm hoping people in my country finally wake up and listen to what she said. He said so he said, I'm so thankful that the judge gave us this decision. It's so important. This charge that he was charged with, there's not been a precedent set. Now we have a precedent. Now we can go after parents who break the law. Speaker 22: Wow. Speaker 21: Yes. Right out of the horse's mouth. And and and I've been telling people, this law used to be a family sort of law. Like, it was in the criminal code, but it was treated like a family contempt order. You know, three months or a slap on a wrist. They changed the law in Canada in 2019 to a serious criminal charge with a penalty up to ten years in prison. So there's no precedent. There's never been a precedent set in this new law, and that's what they want. They wanna set a precedent. And I've been telling people, because there's no precedent, we have the opportunity in this country to make a precedent where parents have the right to protect their children. They have the right to stand in. They don't have to prove anything. The law's even written. It says you just have to believe that your children would suffer harm, and you can't be found guilty of this offense. And if everybody remembers people on here I told my story to, when the when it came to the judge giving instructions to the jury after my trial, she said to the jury that, this is part of the criminal code, you know, this defense sort of thing, but it doesn't apply to him. If he took his daughter, you must find him guilty. So she she ruled out in her instruction of the jury that I had any defense whatsoever as a parent, And that's what this is about. And so, you know, like I said, my my fundraiser was so low, so a friend of mine stepped up at the very last minute. You know, we had this lawyer, and he was, like, hard and hardened heart sort of thing situation, and we were praying about it. And, a girl in the who was praying got a word that we're not supposed to use them, and she got this she said, I know this is strange, but I got the letter l. And I go back to an email I got from some stranger in Alberta. You know, I'm in Saskatchewan. He was in Alberta. We're saying, hey. You know, I'm gonna send you this. I hope this helps some just some case law. And he said, I I thought of a law firm that might be able to help you. Little law with an l. So I called this lawyer, like, three days before my sentencing hearing, and she decided to come on. She's been to the Supreme Court of Canada in in in our country. She's been an appeal court lawyer for years. She's got a really good reputation. And I think God we prayed about it, and I think God let us stir because she's probably got a heart he can work with. You know? Mhmm. And so right away, we were able to file our appeal yesterday, right after the hearing. He drew up, a notice of appeal to the court, and, we filed it. So the next stage is, like, going to war. Like, this is just the beginning. Right? So now we have to prepare, and, we're appealing the sentence as well. Like, I'm on two years probation. So now I'm not even allowed to leave the province, and I have restrictions. But we're gonna have a court date coming up in the next few weeks to get that lifted as part of the appeal until we could get it heard at the appeal court. But, you know, to be honest with you, this is not over by any means. Complacency is so dangerous. I still need I still need prayer, support, sharing the story, you know, get the word out. You know, we have to we have to stand up and have our rights in this country for our children as do you. And, yeah. So there is a blessing, but it's it's that I'm not in jail that I was actually be able to come home, but it's muted. Right? Because, I'm just, anticipating the next step. Speaker 5: Yep. Well, I'm glad you came on here to give us an update. That's Speaker 21: Well, I'm thankful for all your prayers and support, and I just ask that I just pray that it continues. Speaker 5: You bet. You bet. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you said you posted the, the hearing? Because I I haven't seen it, but I do wanna watch it. Speaker 21: No. I I you can't watch it now. What I did was I post I posted a link so people who grab the link, they could watch it live at the time. But you you're not allowed to, you know, record it or share it. You could you could only watch it. You know, we we don't have the freedom you guys do. Like, everything's in done here in secret. Right? Mhmm. So there was there was people who watched it, but nobody actually was able to record it or anything. But I have the I have hopefully, gonna find some people gonna help me start posting this stuff somehow, some way, like the paperwork and stuff to show what happened. So I have her judgment and her reasoning, and it's the same thing. Even her judgment shows that how biased she is. And, you know, it it's so, ironic that the government trying to harm and steal our children is accusing me of being the the evil one. You know? Right. Because I'm trying to stop them. Speaker 5: Well, great. Who's next, Chelsea? I'm My flying blind. Makes Speaker 1: puts a finer point on that this this whole strange war is really ultimately an assault on the family, an attempt to abolish the nuclear family, to criminalize parents, and to to kind of give give parental rights to the state. And, they they have the technology. You can imagine in the near future if if everyone is required to carry a device in their pocket, really, that's all it would take. Your child has a human right to their state provided digital device that they have to carry on themselves at all times. They have to report into that. They have to check into that. That it becomes responsible to them in in lieu of the parents being responsible for them. So, I mean, that's that's really where they're trying to drive all this. I know it sound it might even sound farfetched right now, but after all we've experienced, we saw them in Australia. They made people put an app on their phone. And if they didn't when they got a message from the state, if they didn't take a picture of themselves proving they were wherever they were and send that back to the state within however many minutes, they would automatically have, like, teams sent after them to to arrest them. So it it really isn't that far fetched. They were they were they've been laying all of this out for us, and we really have to Speaker 4: stand against it. It's not far it's not far fetched at all. I don't I just saw a headline yesterday or the day before, that, it's been affirmed that in the state of Vermont, children can be vaccinated without parental consent. So, yeah, the I think it is definitely moving in that direction that it makes total sense too. If you if you want to have a solid lock on tyranny, the best way to do it is to have control of subsequent generations. Speaker 1: And to answer your question, Gail, there is no one in the queue. So I take this opportunity to remind everyone, if you have a story related to COVID protocols, policies, or mandates, or or COVID censorship or why Fauci should absolutely never be given a blanket retroactive preemptive pardon, please press the button on the bottom left hand corner of your screen and come up on mic. I think Michael might have something else to say. Go ahead, Michael. Speaker 21: Yeah. I just wanted to say in Canada already, we have that. So, you know, they try to get the mature child, permission thing. I don't know if a child's old enough, they can make the decision. But here in Canada, a child can be vaccinated already across the country without the parent's permission. They can also be put on puberty blockers and change their name without the parent's permission or even knowledge. Wow. Speaker 5: So so, you know, it's funny because well, not funny. In Vermont, there was just a ruling on that six year old that got vaccinated, got the shot at school without the parents. That's exactly that's what I was telling you. They have affirmed it. Yep. And they said the school could do it. Speaker 1: It's freaking crazy. Which is very very dangerous precedent that effectively I'd be moving Speaker 5: yeah. I'd be packing up my kids and getting the hell out. Speaker 21: My daughter goes to a you know, I fought hard in our divorce to get my daughter to go to a a Christian school. The Christian school held a a COVID nineteen vaccine clinic in the school. And when I and when I fought and argued with the the principal and manager of the school, they said, it's just precautionary, like a like a school zone, you know, slowing down. We're just trying to protect our children. Speaker 4: Yeah. Here in The States, a lot of churches also had, vaccine drives as well. So there is, definitely not a monopoly on wisdom, in people in in Christian scenarios, unfortunately. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 6: Well, Speaker 5: do we want to do we wanna read the names? Speaker 1: Yeah. We've got Sherry Martin up on mic, but give me a minute because I always I've started a bit of a tradition where I I announce it a couple minutes in advance. So anyone who, is looking out for that and just wants to come on to to hear the names can Sure. Yeah. Give me a minute to post that, and then we'll do that. In the meantime, Sherry could tell us how she's doing. How are you doing, Sherry? Speaker 2: You you you you want the the down and dirty, or do you do we wanna talk about important stuff to everybody? Speaker 1: The cold, hard truth laid on us. Speaker 2: The cold, hard truth. Speaking of cold, hard truth, in North Carolina, we're down in the, like, upper twenties, and I'm not in the mountains for anybody who thinks about this. In Western North Carolina, they are living in tents, and it's going to be in the upper teens tonight for them. This is the craziest thing we've we've had our chance to see, I think, I think but maybe not. I mean, if we put Lahaina together with Western North Carolina, together with, East Palestine, Ohio, Speaker 6: it Speaker 2: I'm it there's there's no words for what's happening in this country as we hand money in the billions to Ukraine and Northern Africa, and we don't have the capability of helping the people in Western North Carolina. I have no idea whatever happened to the children in Lahaina. Mhmm. And I'm just gonna ramble because I get crazy like that. It's just something that makes me nuts. So but there is there is a problem in in Western North Carolina where some of the counties are refusing to let the the the people use the Amish sheds that were built for them, because they don't fit current building standards. I I don't see in in times of need personally how they can choose to do this when a tent is going to be better, but that's it. That's all I can say. But, let me know when you want me to read tonight's anniversaries, Chelsea. I'll be glad to do it. Speaker 1: Well, I've got the post out there. Speaker 2: You wanna if you wanna give it a few more minutes, that's fine. I just I'm here. I do see Speaker 1: him for a quest coming in. Oh, it's Jen. Cat. Cat. Speaker 5: Cat. Maybe she's You know, one other thing one other thing that we could, read, we haven't read it in a while. And I, since we've launched the campaign with the, you know, talking about the 25 commonalities with the videos and stuff, I don't know if you want to put one of those out there and have Sherry read the 25 commonalities that we have found in the protocol cases. Speaker 1: Yeah. That is such a good idea, Gail, if Sherry doesn't mind. I just penned the the video we just put out with the first commonality, which is isolation. I just posted that just after the space got started, and it's already almost got 2,000 impressions. So, we would really appreciate anyone in this space helping us get that out there. This is the first in what's going to be, a series of these videos, one for each commonality and ultimately probably several for each commonality because we have so many hundreds of hours of these interviews, and there's so much really heartbreaking, but but critical material in these in these interviews. So, I'm going to be putting these out, trying to catch up with the days here. And then if if I can, I'm gonna try to do one every day through Christmas, and then for Christmas, compile all of them into, I think it's gonna be, like, a three hour feature, feature, of all of the the the 25 COVID protocol commonalities. So it it was a list Tracy Berg first identified. Well, she was like, well, we keep saying we hear these things over and over again. Maybe we should make a list and and keep track of these things we hear over and over and over again. And so the the 25 commonalities was born. And I think there there are still more commonalities we'll we'll continue to identify as we go through. But these videos are just they're ten minute supercuts, just little short snippets from each interview. And it I I think it really they make the point each one makes the point, pretty, pretty comprehensively that these things happened. They happened to lots of people. They weren't rare events. They weren't isolated events. And this is a pattern of action people need to be alarmed about and and really raising hell about right now. Speaker 2: Totally agree. Did you wanna did you wanna have take cat cat cat, or did you want me to read that? Speaker 1: What do you wanna do, Kim? Speaker 5: Go to Kat Kat Kat first. Alright. Speaker 1: Go ahead, Kim. Speaker 8: Yeah. Sherry was talking about the tents, and I thought, you know, there's this liability shield for the big pharma manufacturers on untested, unsafe, ineffective toxic sludge, but they suddenly care so very much about liability and safety issues when it comes to, Amish housing units that have been erected to save the lives of people out in the cold freezing after a natural disaster. So that's kind of ironic. Speaker 2: I think it's more of a power play, Jan. It because each of these little fiefdoms has to have their very own king or queen in this case because my understanding is in this one particular county, it's a woman. And, and I'm gonna say something that's really unpopular maybe, but some women shouldn't have power. And that is Amen. Yeah. There there are some women who just should not have power, and they're scary when they get it. They don't care who they hurt. Speaker 5: That's right. But yes. Speaker 8: Yeah. I was I was being sarcastic, Sherry. No. I didn't mean it was a power play. Speaker 2: No. But it is. I mean, the problem is that we're seeing I don't know. Maybe it's social media because we we're not reliant anymore on the news, quote, unquote, news, to tell us what's going on. So now we're seeing really starkly things that are happening in our world that, you know, in my case, it's only four hours from me, that I wouldn't have seen because we know the news isn't covering it. And I think that part of that's that's why we are so frustrated as a group. People who get on x, talk on the spaces. This is where we get our news from the people on the ground, and that that really has some people running scared right now. Speaker 8: We are the media. Speaker 3: We are. Speaker 2: We are the media. I saw this coming Speaker 1: just just after the inception of the internet when I was hosting little message board communities. And we were giving each other news. We could say, was that story you live in that area. Was that story legitimate? And and that's when we first started to, like, triangulate actual actual reality from what we were being told on the television because pre internet, you a lot of people got their information primarily from the TV set. And it was even a meme that if you saw it on TV that, like, validated it as real. Like, did it happen? I don't know. Did you see it on TV? And and these days, you know, you can't even believe what you see with your own eyes, but it's interesting how that that's really expanded to, to go exponential to the point that each of us are our own media. And, and we can do, you know, do with that what you will, run with it, create your own show if you want. All of the, all of the tools to do that are at your disposal. So I, I think it's great that so many people are doing that. I think a lot of people are getting their information from these live streams now and spaces instead of traditional media. And I think it's only a matter of time till the New York Times is dead. And I can't wait because the New York Times is trash. Speaker 5: It is trash. Speaker 2: Maybe that's why MSNBC is up for sale? Speaker 1: Who wants that? Who who even would want MSNBC? There is talk, like, must should buy MSNBC. I don't think, like I don't I mean, it would be a lark. It would be kind of a funny, cheeky thing to do, but I don't think it's actually gonna accomplish anything because people are moving away from these, these mediums that really have betrayed them. Yes. It's about time. Speaker 2: I totally agree, Chelsea, because the news has, done all of its done itself in. It literally is committing Harry Carey now. Speaker 5: K. Well, I I think there would be some value in buying it though for him because there are still people who do who do watch and believe Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a must now. It's a right wing propaganda network of the Russians. Don't pay any attention to that, and the people the true believers are just gonna turn it off and flip over to CNN's new thing. I don't know. I don't think they would notice. Speaker 5: I think they're just they're like goats. They just eat whatever is put in front of them. Speaker 1: No. And they're, like They would have some notice unless it's like a hostile takeover in the dead of night, and they have no notice. Like, Rachel Maddow would be screaming like, don't listen to anything I say from this moment on Alright. You know? I mean, how many but how many Speaker 5: people how many how many people still how many conservatives still thought Fox was, right wing even after leftists purchased part of it. Any Speaker 1: I mean, it was it certainly was the most right wing of any mainstream television network. So, you know, it might be easy to make that mistake in a vacuum of real information. Speaker 5: Right. Exactly. And I think it would work the same way. Same with all the radio stations that, George Soros' son just bought. Right? The 120. Peoples people are, like, shocked when when I tell them that. They're like, no way. Speaker 1: But we thought Yeah. We thought it was it would be then dog radio would be taken off iHeartRadio immediately, and that hasn't happened. Right. So what they're doing instead, how are they using that? Are they gonna, you know, track the connections and the networks? And, why do they want that? It's interesting. Speaker 5: Yeah. It is. And so maybe it wouldn't be so awful to do the do it on the flip side, but, you know, for cheap on the cheap. Speaker 1: It occurs to me that, reading the the anniversaries and the commonalities might be a lot for Sherry to to do tonight. What do you think, Sherry? Speaker 2: I can do I can we could split the, commonalities up if it if if you guys want to and, you know, do do parts. Speaker 5: Alright. Let me let me pull up the commonalities. I'll I can read the commonalities, and then, do you wanna do the commonalities before the names? Speaker 2: We can do it either way appropriate Speaker 1: because, you know, first, we'll tell everybody the things everybody experienced, and then we'll we'll read the names of the people who actually experienced those things and died. Speaker 5: Some of the names. Yes. Because okay. So the commonalities as people know who have been on here before, but people who have not been on here that probably don't know are the, you know, things that we discovered, amongst the commonalities amongst victims and the stories that were told across the nation. So these things, there's a there are some things that are common between cases, but these were common, so common. They they were common practices in the hospitals themselves or common words that were used, that type of thing. And it started with the isolation of the victim. So the the victim is the patient the victim is isolated and denied access to family, friends, advocates, pastor, priest, clergy, anybody. Not just physically isolated, but oftentimes even, you know, just in every every possible way. But the physical isolation, I will say as a survivor, was one of the hardest things to endure was you know, it's like being in solitary confinement for however many days you're in there. For me, it was twelve days. It was very tough. To to only see the faces that you know are trying to kill you and not friendly faces is absolutely horrible. And then, the second is strict adherence to EUA protocols. They the only options that they would allow victims were the hospital protocol drugs. The remdesivir, which is also called Vekleri, baricitinib, which is also called the Lumiont, tesilizumab, which is also called Actemra, and there's a few others. But, you know, they they would was your only option. Anything else was, you know, laughed at. So, and sometimes patients were forced on these things when they refused. When they refused them, they were either forced, tricked, or given it without them knowing or consent. The third, which kinda goes with second, is denial of alternative treatments. And these alternative treatments really should have been the main treatments. They were for SARS one as we talked about earlier, but all requests were denied or ridiculed when asked for treatments like ivermectin, vitamins, budesonide, hydroxychloroquine. And, you know, as we know now, those and we knew then too, those drugs were saving millions. And false statements were made. They would make they would all make the same false statement, either saying it there's no proof it works, it doesn't work, or saying these things were not FDA approved, which was an outright lie. So that was that that's the third. Denied informed consent is the fourth. There no informed consent was provided regarding medications, treatments, intubation, procedures, anything. There you'd be hard pressed to find any type of informed consent being given to anybody who died or anybody who survived. Gaslighting the gaslighting by the hospital staff of the victim and the family. And, this is the way it kinda went. I know I heard this gazillion times, the gaslighting of you're gonna die because you didn't take because you're you're unvaccinated, and that's why you're gonna die. I mean, the doctor patted me on the hand and said, I'm sorry, missus Selleck, you're gonna die just because I was unvaccinated. Had nothing to do with my treatment or my condition. If they and if they refuse to, be vaccinated or they don't comply with the hospital protocol or the ventilation, they and they they tell you 10 times a day, you're a very sick woman. You're a very sick man. They tell your family from the time you get there, oh, he's very they use that same language. Very sick man. Very sick woman. It's it's almost like they're they have a script that they read off of. The six was the, removal of communication devices. Call lights, glasses, cell phones, other communications devices removed from the patient's possession or placed out of their reach. And what's so ironic is when somebody comes to go look in your window or, you know, like, what or when like like, in my case, when the police officer was gonna come up and do a welfare check, suddenly, you know, I get a gown and my and my call light is next to me. Right? Like, and my glasses are within reach, where my glasses are never in reach. It's it's all to to just make it harder to communicate with the outside world or the staff. The dehumanization, it's very method methodical. They they treat patients like animals because they don't expect them to survive and tell the story. They don't clean them. Their hair's matted. No mouth care. Just being dirty, naked, cold, a pervasive sense of wrongdoing. Family members, friends, and often the victims all had a feeling something was wrong from the get go. Something didn't seem right. They couldn't put their finger on it. There are family members. You know, I think of the one mom who got her son's phone after the fact after he died, and he had texted one of his friends. I don't think they're gonna let me leave here alive. Stuff like that. So, and we hear it all the time when people find us. They're like, I had a feeling something was wrong. They get the medical records, and then they see it, and they understand that their loved one didn't die of COVID. They died of the brutality and the protocols. Vaccination. So vaccination discrimination is a is a big one. The way patients were treated was very dependent on their vaccine status. If they were unvaccinated, which, you know, that was part of the plan. Right? The the dark winter that Joe Biden announced was going to happen, they made happen because they killed people who were unvaccinated. They, verbally mocked and physically abused. I was physically abused by a nurse, because I was unvaccinated. Physical abuse, verbal abuse, mocking, and just very they and they did it very gleefully. Very, very gleefully. They they meant to do it. They hated you. So that that was the thing. The rapid oxygen increase, I didn't realize when this was happening to me that that it it's designed to lead you to a mechanical vent. So they they increase the oxygen as fast as they can to get you dependent on it. Once you are on a high enough oxygen level, you're not getting up and leaving by yourself. I mean, they they will have you by the time you realize they're trying to kill you, you're on so much I was on 60 liters by the time they tried, you know, said that they were gonna kill me. And and this this the BiPAP or the the forced hot air and it being increased quickly, it causes complications of the lung. It first of all, it's a it's a gas exchange issue. It's not an oxygen issue. And so they're doing you they're doing damage to you rather than helping you. And so that leads to mechanical ventilation. They're treating the wrong problem. Refusal to communicate. So doctors, nurses, hospital administration refusing to communicate with family or advocates. They just won't respond, call the answer their calls, answer their questions. I mean, even lawyers, they would, you know, not communicate with lawyers when families would get them. Sometimes they wouldn't even communicate with the victim themselves. Dehydration and starvation, denial of food, water, nutrition, and then given diuretics or laxatives, which also deplete all your nutrients. I mean, go look at, you know, the story in Georgia of Ares Dobson, that little that little boy starved to death. Right? I mean, I was seven days without water, twelve days without food, or any nutrition. Right? So and that's so common. You know, Anne Quiner's I can remember her story when doctor Varon, had come out in the media and said that Scott was the most malnourished patient he had ever seen in his entire career. So that is that's they weaken him. Without food and without water, you're gonna die. And I'm gonna tell you, without food, you're in a little bit of pain, but without water, that's that's where the the painfulness is. Restraint abuse, We hear we hear from Charlene a lot, how her mother was placed in restraints. She didn't need restraints. There was no there was no reason to put her in restraints other than to punish her and, for wanting water and, not checking the restraints for many, you know, eleven hours or twelve you're supposed to check them whatever fifteen minutes or what have you. We see it in people's medical records where they tried to leave and they were given Ativan and restraint physical restraints, chemical restraints off often are used as well. They don't follow the legal requirements, and that's a crime actually. So I that's where I do think that, you know, if it if it wasn't for COVID, people would be would be criminally charged for misuse of restraints. Ventilation is also, documented in many records as being used as a method of behavioral control or, I e, a restraint. Number 14 is denial of bathroom use. Just deny forced onto a catheter or a rectal tube, told you can't use the a bedside commode. They don't take you to the bathroom, or they just let you lay and pee and poop. Like, they you know, IEC dehumanization, nonemergency ventilation. It's like, I can't tell you how many times a survivor will say, yeah. I was up one guy. He's like, an accountant. He's like, I was doing somebody's taxes up in bed on my laptop, and they came in and said we gotta vent you. One woman was told by her doctor that she needed to drive to the hospital and be vent be put on a vent. Like, it's nonemergency ventilation. And the family or the victim are often told it's to give your lungs a rest. Immediately, they wanna get you on the vent, and they'll do anything they can to talk you into it. DNR pressure or shenanigans false outright falsified my DNR do not resuscitate, order was falsified. I've told them many times I I was a full code. We hear this time and time again where the family is either pressured into signing a do not resuscitate order or, their request to be, a full code is completely ignored. Grace Sherritt's case in Erin, Wisconsin, her parents literally were screaming, she's not a DNR, save our daughter. We we hear this over and over again. I there's nothing scarier than not knowing you're not a DNR and having the doctors and nurses tell you you are, and that and you knew that they were gonna let you die. So that's number 16. Number 17 is palliative care pressure. The victim and the family are pressured into palliative care, palliative care, comfort care, or hospice, and, or the family's denied part the ability to participate in that consult meeting if that consult meeting ever even happens. Palliative palliative care has been ordered even without consent. And, you know, we we experienced this with somebody we were, advocating for where she pushed the palliative care meeting consult meeting. She asked for one to be held on the Monday to buy her some time, and they went ahead and put him on there without her even knowing that he was on palliative care. So we hear that. We hear that often. Isolated even in death. You know? Families are forced. You hear Andy talk about it all the time, how his father was, you know, violently murdered while him and his mom were kept at bay and had to watch through a window. And they were, you know, kept by kept it by at bay by the police. And so they deny him access as their loved one's dying. We've had widows who were told by nurses, don't worry. I held his hand as he died. He didn't die alone. And that's just like a double slap in the face. Right? Like, yeah, it was just crazy. And then we we also hear from people who are, lot of victims who they're denied even access to view the body after death. So, you know, they can come only so far and look at the face, but they can't move the sheet and they can't go and really see their their loved one. It's a little bit bizarre, and denial of, like, any type of last rights. Like, I'm Catholic. They were gonna deny me extreme unction if I didn't take remdesivir. We've heard of many people being denied last rites, anointing, prayer, extreme unction, or anything that their, religion indicates should happen at the time of death, you know, including how the body is handled after death. Police and security involve involvement, you only have to go look at my profile and see the police standoff we had. But police and security teams have become the hospital's, Gestapo. So they are being used as their personal Gestapo to keep the victim isolated, to keep the families out. We have had widows threatened. We have had so many people old, young, male, female, you know, families just threatened with arrest. Many families who who did push through and got their loved one out have been prosecuted, have criminal records now, or are being prosecuted like my husband. Number 20 is refusal to transfer. So a lot of families will go down that road of if I just transfer them to a different hospital, well, the other the next hospital is gonna do the same. But but they will fight that transfer, and they will, oftentimes, not only will they refuse a transfer or, like in my case, refuse to change doctors, they'll accelerate the person's death once that process starts and, you know, even with lawyers involved in all of that. 21 is infections and injuries that you know? And all of these things are sentinel events that need to be reported, but infections and injuries, sepsis, MRSA, hospital acquired infections, they don't treat them. They don't care for they don't they the the lack of care for the patient, the neglect of the patient is, what what is causing these and the pressure pressure sores sometimes down to the bone, big pressure sores where people's people's these survivors even still are missing part of their buttocks or part of their, stomach area, the skin tears, the necrosis, all I mean, I think think many of you have probably seen cases out there that are going through this. And, that that that is due to extreme neglect, which is number 22, neglect, lack of basic care, lack of high hygiene, no mouth care, lack of grooming, bathing, linen changes. They treat you like an animal. They they don't they neglect your every need because they're busy making their TikTok videos or whatever they're doing. I don't know. Or they they just they don't they don't much care. So I always get in arguments with nurses over this one. I like I mean, yeah. Oh, they work so hard. Nighttime emergencies, they'll wake the family up. They don't allow them in because you're isolated. They don't give them any information because they don't communicate with them, and then they'll wake them up in the middle of the night, and they want them to make instant life and death choices with very little information without being able to see their loved one, talk to their loved one, know what's truly going on, and the staff attempts to scare them or confuse them. That's why my husband kept saying, you will never get me to agree to a vent unless I can come up and examine her, see her, and talk to her. So so that is, that's so common. Perception of, I can never say this word. Malevolence. Victim states or feels like the hospital's torturing them or trying to kill them. You know? I mean, it come it becomes evident to everybody when they're in the hospital pretty much at some point that the hospital staff is torturing them or going to kill them because somebody tells them or some or just, you know, you just know. And then on 25 is unqualified staff, treatment by foreign, doctors who wouldn't think twice about the mill the, government telling you how to treat a patient, travel nurses and doctors who made crap tons of money on the back of patients and and being killers and then just left a few I mean, travel, fake. You know? So, like, there's, Operation Nightingale where they found like, I think it's over 20,000 fake nurses now. They had the same thing with fake doctors, that paid for their degrees and their transcripts. FEMA doctors and nurses, we see that a lot. FEMA is FEMA needs to go away, and unqualified medical staff. So that's number 25, and we see that in abundance. How did I do, ladies? So these are pretty pretty alarming, things that happened. So, Gail? Speaker 1: Yes. Alarming is like the understatement of the century. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2: I wanna Patterns of abuse. Yeah. I just wanted to add something. One of your survivors was on my Monday night meeting one night, and he pointed out that he had found, I believe, two other people, who had ex that that that told him in what could be another commonality. That seemed like they were all offered, including him, they were all given laxatives. And then they were obviously going to have to get up and use the bedside commode. Well, that would make them short on breath, and then they would be told, well, if this doesn't get itself right really soon, we're gonna have to vent you. And he felt like if there's multiple patients that this is happening to, is this a Speaker 8: is this Commonality? Yeah. Well, what we And is it what we Speaker 5: when we developed the commonalities, it was really around, you know, like, hundreds of patients across the nation across the nation in multiple hospitals every state. It's the the the medicals the medical ins, the the way that they were handled being the same. I mean, there there are things like that where I and I think that's that's woven in. You know, they they gave the laxatives because they wanted, I think, to dehydrate you, really. But as to how people you know, I most victims were denied the ability to get up on a on a bedside commode regardless of of, I I think that's more of a commonality is that denial of use of the commode. The the and well, in the denial of assistance in going to the bathroom because, like, a lot of people did a lot of people did try to go to the bathroom by themselves if they could get up and they were not in an ICU or whatever and passed out because they couldn't get you know, they were on the call light for an hour or whatever, and the nurse was making a TikTok video. So, yeah, so I I know what you're talking about. I I think it's maybe it I think it's something we have to watch to see how many people come up with that. But if it's I think it's woven in there. Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when you say woven in there, then then my my thought about that conversation that that he initiated was that's an it's almost like the rest of the script because it is one of those things where it's so dirty and underhanded and gives the hospital or the doctor or whoever's in charge the the right to start saying, well, Speaker 5: it's a dangerous time. We're gonna have to No. I agree. You know? So So I agree with you. I agree with you. But when we came up with this list, it was more around the ideas around it it's more around the idea that it's happened to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people because we could like, the maliciousness, the little the things that happened to more than one peep person, like, three people, five people, 10 people, even that maybe happened to 50 people, that list could be longer than your arm. Right? I mean, like, it it could be, you know, the, you know, the things that were said, the things that were done. Like, I mean, we have multiple we have multiple victims who were on vents, who the nurses played horror movies Speaker 3: Mhmm. Speaker 5: Or inappropriate stuff. It's it it happened more than once. It probably happened more than five times, but it's it it wasn't a commonality. It was, you know, individual malicious actors where I think this you know, what we were going for with the 25 commonalities is the things that the hospitals put in place. Right? The things that were every single patient got treated that way and were common in every state and almost every hospital because because those things have to have come from somewhere above the hospital themselves. There has to be proof somewhere, memos, instructions, how these things were handled. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 5: Yeah. And so in order to not dilute the in order to not dilute that mission of the 25 commonalities, that's why we're, like there's things we watch for in interviews where we're like, we should probably watch this to see how how often it's coming up, or else we could have, you know, 80 commonalities, really, a 100 commonalities. Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that a lot of it may stem from the relaxed guidelines out of CMS that they they chose to make it sound like, well, the hospital is going to be overrun. And as long as the hospital is going to be overrun and short staffed, we have to give these nurses a lot of leniency on how much time they need to spend with each patient, and then we will relax the guidelines on restraints. We will relax the guidelines on how often they go in the room. We will relax the guidelines on how often the patient needs to go to the restroom. We will relax the guidelines on whether or not the nurse is allowed or should have to feed the patient. And that, you know, that probably came out of CMS because they're the ones who really hold the line on or did, on hospitals in order for the hospital to meet certification standards to keep their contracts. Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean and I I also don't want to, you know, get into this discussion sometimes with doctors like doctor Bain. I also want to be very clear that I also do understand I do understand why some of these things could have been seen as legitimate things that needed to be done. Right? So, like, if somebody's on 60 liters of of oxygen, do you really wanna take the chance of walking them to the bathroom when they're gonna be dizzy from the oxygen? Right? But it doesn't take a lot to pivot somebody and sit with them while they're on a bedside commode. So do they really need to be pushed onto a catheter that could cause another infection? Like like but I do understand that that could be seen as a normal course of care. The same with checking somebody's blood sugar and occasionally having to give them insulin when they're on high dose steroids because high dose steroids can, you know, can jack your your blood sugar. Like, there's there's things that nurses were probably like, yeah. That seems legitimate. Right? But, you know, even with when they were saying, ah, we don't we can't give you water because you could aspirate. Well, you could. You could. You you could aspirate, but a nurse could also sit there with you so you could drink a little bit of water or a little bit of liquid Makes sense. Have a little bit of food. It's been done. But what they were really doing was making sure you didn't have water and food so that they could vent you, right, without Speaker 2: Exactly. That's that's where it really comes from. And they they Right. They lost their humanity in the process, and that's why a lot of the other things that go along with process, and that's why a lot of the other things that go along with this became laziness because Mhmm. She or he is going to die anyway. Why do we have to worry about it? Speaker 1: Right. Nurses say exactly as much to me that they were they were starving people and dehydrating them, and that was because they were planning to put them on the vent. They're planning on putting them on the vent. Right. So those kind of things, those were instructions that came down from the hospital. Right? Speaker 5: When it comes to how some of the laziness stuff, that that comes down that just comes down to the staff that's hired. Right? That those are things that probably have always happened in facilities with lazy or abusive nurses. But with COVID, one of the things when I talk about when we talk about the dehumanization and the cruelty to the unvaccinated with the abuse and the the neglect, that came from from the I don't wanna say the protocol, but it it came from the demonization of the of the unvaccinated. So that's why you see things like and it's very clear in different many hospitals where the hospital, the doctors, the administrators, the nurses, the people in charge of the culture of that hospital all over the country. You know, like like the one in Dallas that said where the doctor said, me and my staff would like to see unvaccinated people clubbed to death like baby seals. That kind of stuff. That is that that was from Speaker 1: that was that was part of the protocol. Right? That environment was fostered by the New York Times at Al and the entire media apparatus Yep. To to justify, to give those people permission to discriminate against to the point of death. Speaker 5: And and and by the Biden administration, quite frankly, because it was the we're getting very tired of you. It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. The you're killing your neighbors. You're you're not doing you're not a good member of society. Blah blah blah blah blah. And Speaker 1: And we now know that all of that was a lie. All of that not that I mean, not only was it offensive at the time, but it was completely made up of whole cloth. They didn't have any data to support any of that. They were just literally making it up as they went along. Yeah. Exactly. Speaker 5: And so so yeah. So the this is what people went through and more and more. And so, yeah, and more. So Now if I don't know, Sherry, if you're ready, but Speaker 2: we should I I I am, but, we have a hand up, and I didn't know if we we needed to go to Jan before we do that. Speaker 5: Yeah. Let's do that. Jan? Speaker 8: Yeah. I I'm not I don't know this for sure, but isn't it true that if somebody can't drink or if there there's a danger of them aspirating, isn't it true that you would get them on a a bag of ringers right away and just keep that keep that saline coming into their into their veins with through an IV? And, perhaps other minerals and vitamins, like vitamin c and stuff. Wouldn't you do that if somebody if you're afraid somebody's gonna aspirate? Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, normally normally, you would, but also with the high flow BiPAP, you need I mean, you need to be able to drink your your whole I mean, it's agony. It's agony to not be able to drink. But, yes, you would, but they don't. And they're very half the time. I mean, it was it was day five before a nurse threw a fit in my case and was like, this IV needs to be on all the time. Like Yeah. Speaker 8: And then the other thing I wanted to say is, I bet you when we unearth archives one day, we're gonna find out that the same script of the 25 commonalities that you said you suspect come from someplace else, obviously. I I bet you when we unearth archives, we're gonna find that that same scriptwriter is the one who wrote the big media, mainstream media, scripts where you can lay over every single newscaster on mainstream media of, you know, you know, you've seen the videos where it's Yeah. Safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective. And there's just every single solitary newscaster. And they can you can lay one video on top of the next of every broadcast that night and then the whole And don't the puppet thing. Yeah. Don't don't make them get vaccinated. Speaker 5: Don't the puppet masters from Big Harm have their have their arms up the asses of the media and the doctors at the same time making them talk? Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. When we unearth the archives one day, we're gonna find out that all the the script writers came from the same place for all of the entities and instrumentalities. Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Speaker 1: Alright. Speaker 5: Go ahead. Protocol widow. Let's Okay. Go with it. Speaker 2: This is another long list because we are reviewing the years '20 and '21, and those are the years well, '21 was the winter, the cold winter of the non vaccinated, so we have a lot of twenty twenty ones here. And I will apologize in advance. There are some names on here that I will stumble over, and I apologize if you're listening and I butcher your name. I really am not doing that on purpose. So Donell Cooley was killed on 12/07/2021. Her story was told by her husband, Jerry Cooley. Robert Yellow was killed on 12/07/2021. His story was told by his son, Michael Yellow. Miguel Rodriguez was killed on 12/07/2021. His story was told by his wife, Martha, and daughter Lisbeth Rodriguez. Eris Dobson was killed on 12/08/2021. His story was told by his father David Dobson. Reminder, Aris was 13. Robert Mckenowitz was killed on 12/08/2021. His story was told by his wife Joanne Mckenowitz and his daughter Teresa Chikowits. Helen Johnson was killed 12/08/2021. Her story was told by her daughter Dawn Reed. Jeremy Budick was killed on 12/08/2021. His story was told by his parents, Cheryl and Scott Budick. Mary Nelson was killed on 12/09/2020. Her story was told by her husband, Douglas Nelson. Mark Lang was killed on 12/09/2020. His story was told by his wife, Joy Lang. Bernard Schultz was killed on 12/09/2021. His story was told by his wife, Jerry Schultz. Ronald Gilham senior was killed on 12/09/2021. His story was told by his son, Ronald Gillham junior. David Marlowe was killed on 12/10/2020. His story was told by his wife, Jane Marlow. Randy McMail was killed on 12/10/2021. His story was told by his wife, Marie McMail. Jose Ulibarri was killed on 12/11/2020. His story was told by his wife, Dara Ulibarri. Stephanie Estevan was killed on 12/11/2021. Her story was told by her daughter, Julie Istvan. Carl Van Horn was killed 12/11/2021. His story was told by his son, Mike Van Horn. Evange Evangeline Young was killed on 12/11/2021. Her story was told by her spouse, Allegra Acosta Young. Keith Smith was killed on 12/12/2021. His story was told by his wife, Darla Smith. James Klauser was killed on 12/12/2021. His story was told by his wife, Cindy Klauser. Ron McNulty was killed on 12/12/2021. His story was told by his wife, Nancy McNulty. John Baker was killed on 12/12/2021. His story was told by his wife, Jody Baker. Steven Traini was killed on 12/12/2021. His story was told by his wife, Nancy Traini. Ray Evangelista was killed on 12/12/2021. His story was told by his life partner, Kelly Cornelius. William Piegler junior was killed on 12/13/2021. His story was told by his wife, Evelyn Piegler. Tim Baker was killed on 12/13/2021. His story was told by his wife, Cheryl, daughter, Brooklyn, and son, Hayden bake Baker. Greg Adleman was killed on 12/13/2021. His story was told by his wife, Laura Adleman. Jeffrey Marshall was killed on 12/13/2021. His story was told by his wife, Diane Marshall. The members of the former Feds Group Freedom Foundation and the COVID nineteen Humanity Betrayal Memory Project want to extend our deepest sympathies to all of our families for these horrific crimes. Speaker 5: Thank you, Sherry. And like I say every week, these are only the people who put their stories into our database, and they're only this week. The anniversary is being today and this week. Just add add a bunch of zeros. Speaker 1: And you can see the full list of those who documented their stories with us and are facing the anniversaries of their loved ones, for the next entire month. If you click the link up in the nest, which is chbmp.org/anniversaries. Speaker 5: And I I wanna ask people to, you know, please share their stories. These these people were brave enough to to tell their stories through tears. I mean, go out to Georgia and look at Ares' story. I mean, anybody who can watch that father's interview not be heartbroken. I I mean, they don't have a heart. Speaker 1: And they didn't just torture Aries. They tortured the parents to Yeah. They put them through absolute hell. Speaker 5: Absolute hell. And, like, all of these stories, you know, I mean, I did some I did a lot of these interviews, you know, Evelyn's interview. You know? I mean, I mean, some it's the craziest thing. Some of our victims, you know, literally escaped atrocities in their own country to come here to be killed to be killed in an American holocaust, if you will. So, you know, I'm I am mindful of of that. Speaker 1: And if you go to that anniversaries page, each each one of those little memorial items links back to their original story, And I I think it would mean a lot to them if, anyone in this space were to go copy one of those and share it and just spread the word about what these families endured. Yep. Speaker 5: Do we have some Speaker 1: we have a hand up. Yep. Doctor Me. Doctor Wei, doctor Lin. Sorry. And then Heidi. Speaker 5: Thank you. Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad you joined us again, doctor Lin. How are you doing tonight? Speaker 12: Doing well. Doing well. Thanks. Yeah. I I just clicked on the link, and and it went away from the, you know, went on the link to the, the COVID, crime against humanity page, but then it it got off the the pay my, my ads page, so I couldn't, click on the mic right away when you call my name. Speaker 1: No worries. Glad you're here. Were were you able to, hear the the list of anniversary share just read? Sorry, the space is being a little wonky. It just did it drop everyone to listener? I think it did. I'm sorry about that. I am I am approving you guys, putting you back up on mic. Sorry about that, doctor. You were interrupt Speaker 12: Kind of dropped out. But but, anyway, what I was, wanted to add a couple of points, into the thing and ask if if, any hospital nurse noticed one issue that I thought was, a issue A big issue in causing the people to deteriorate before, getting to the point of, putting on ventilator. So, you know, I'm an outpatient doctor, so I don't have a direct contact with the hospital patient. But I I've been asked to help a couple of people to take care of outpatient, and we made all the arrangements, rented the ventilator, not ventilator, the oxygen concentrator at home and got everything ready. But, when he was just getting ready to leave, you know, he was threatened again and says, if you go home, you're gonna die and and blah blah blah. And so so finally, the guy the gentleman just kind of, got afraid. So so he stayed in the hospital. I had a video call with him, I think that was probably in '8 August '21. In that evening, after he was convinced to stay, he he was able to speak in full sentences, and he only wore an oxygen, through the cannula. And and then thirty minutes after the call, I heard from his wife that he was intubated, and and he never left the hospital after that. So he he died in the next couple of weeks. So, you know, it's to to me, it was very weird in in the progress of a disease process that I just finished a video conversation with someone still able to speak in full sentence and fully, cognizant. And then thirty minutes later, the wife was just after the wife left and went home and received a call and said, no. They said he needed to be intubated, and they couldn't even wait till his wife get there. One of the things I thought was, strange because when we we were helping these people, outpatient, we'll we'll be okay with them getting the oxygen down to 80% and just with, some nasal cannula oxygen. But in a hospital, they get put on the so called a high flow oxygen, like 40 liter, to even six liter with, either pressurized nasal cannula. I think that actually, make them worse because the oxygen toxicity, and they were on such high flow and high percentage oxygen, to, say, keep the oxygen saturation 95% unnecessary when when they do have a long lived, problem. And I think that probably caused some of them, worsening in addition to not getting the right treatment, like the adequate dose of steroids. So so that's one thing I I wanted to ask if anyone can confirm whether they were jumping on the high flow oxygen even when their when their oxygen saturation was only eighty eighty some percent. They could have been easily taken care of with a couple of liters or maybe even without oxygen. Speaker 1: I know we have lots of people up here who can speak to that. I think Miriam would like to go first. Go ahead. Speaker 4: Yeah. I can tell you that definitely happened, with my husband. I've been reviewing his records after the fact. I didn't have any access at the time. And then one year later, both my sons became very ill and were hospitalized with COVID, and they were literally, my oldest son, who was, let's see. He was 32 at the time. I warned both of them. And he literally fought with your nurse for forty five minutes because she would come in and turn it up. He would throw a fit, you know, and say, no. I don't need it turned up. So he literally he has his he has his law degree, and he said, look. You're not going to turn that up anymore. I'm gonna I'm going to file a complaint, and it will be a loss. I mean, he literally won the argument, and that nurse was so very angry because she kept trying to turn the oxygen up when there was no reason for it. So I know that that happened, and it happened to many people. Speaker 5: Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. And I I wanna say I wanna say something on that that too. Like, that that was one of the my husband, he had been a, an emergency room RN, for years. And one of the ways that he knew that they were harming me and basically trying to kill me was the way that they managed the oxygen and the way that they were increasing it, the high flow, the, high flow cannula, and then the BiPAP, and then the you know? And that was he watched that, and that's how one of the things that he knew he had very little time to act when he stormed the ICU to get me out. So, it and he kept saying, you know, it's a it's a gas exchange issue. It's not a a push more oxygen on it. And he man you know, he he was able to think. Speaker 1: Bill Bill dropped just as my browser completely froze. Speaker 5: Oh, I can you hear me? I can hear you now. Oh, I can hear you now. Wow. That was, like, the weirdest thing. I could hear myself back, like, playing back to me. This is the this is the weirdest, buggiest space we've ever had. Seriously. Speaker 1: It's just bizarre bugs. I've never seen anything where literally everyone dropped off at the same time Yeah. Just happened and then whatever just happened now. Please request Mike so I can get everyone back up on stage. Speaker 5: That's right. Because we're not quitters. Speaker 1: Right. They they should know better than to think, you know, they're not gonna give up that easy. Speaker 5: Like, we'll we'll work through it even if it's crap. Like Speaker 1: I I I'm so sorry, doctor. You were interrupted again. Please pick up where you left Speaker 12: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it dropped out and, so I I I couldn't hear anything when when it dropped out. So I dropped out and came back on. So the second piece of information that I I think I could provide is, to confirm the the mentality, that, people have the hostility against those who were not vaccinated. When I was in conversation with, our chief medical officer, you know, regarding you know, I I was offering my service. I said I I'm willing to see more patients with COVID. And and he he asked how are you gonna treat them? I said, you know, I'm gonna treat them with I what I know will work. And I said, well, if it's not the CDC protocol, then it's thanks, but no thanks. Because, he he knew, that I I'm, I've proposed to to use, ivermectin, and, also, he knew I'm against the the vaccine mandate. So and but he in the conversation, he also said that, you know, I'm I am, you know, I'm not feeling very charitable towards those who are not vaccinated because they are taking up public resources and and therefore, you know, the people who are holding resentment against them are just to do so. And that's a medical director talking. Speaker 17: Wow. Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, wow. Speaker 12: Yeah. So so that's the medical director. That's, you know, he's he he could he he's right to feel judgmental. And, and then I have at one point, I had, a few patients with COVID in the hospital, and, one of them was fully vaccinated. So, you know, I I think that was in, in July, '21. So so he got the two shots earlier on. So so but he still died. The the that person still died. And his wife later told me, you know, expressing gratitude for the hospital because the the, all the staff was so nice to him and give him preferential treatment because they say you've done everything right and blah blah blah. So but in implying that for others, they were not quite as kind. Yeah. Because because they didn't do everything right. Yeah. And I also treat some of the it clearly backs injured patients with a small fiber, neuralgia. And she just treated very badly by the specialist because nobody believe her. They or at least they acted like whatever she said was not real. You you know, you're just making it up and and all that. It's I I have a patient with Parkinson's disease who who have been seeing a specialist neurologist, in in Spokane, which is about couple hours from where I practice because, I practice in a smaller community. They so the neurologist said, unless you're vexed, I I'm not gonna see you. And so so that patient didn't get to be seen by a neurologist for two years because she refused to get the jab. Wow. Yeah. I Speaker 5: hear that so often. Yeah. Speaker 1: Right. I was just thinking we hear this over and over and over again, and it never ceases to be absolutely horrifying every time. Speaker 5: Although I have to say, I me and my husband, after the experience that we had, Speaker 1: we we literally Speaker 5: judged every doctor by whether or not they went along with just things that didn't make sense. And and it didn't even matter if they were doctors that treated COVID. So, like, we went to our eye doctor, And, when I went to pick up my glasses, they were all in this panic. Oh, COVID's, you know, ramping up again. You gotta wear a mask. You can't and I I I said no. You can bring them outside to me then because I'm not putting a mask on my face. And I said you can take us off of your list because we're never gonna be back ever. When COVID's over, whatever. Our doctors, we dropped. My husband went in to hit like, we just wouldn't do it if the if a doctor was going to believe anything and and go along with nonsense crap that didn't make sense from a medical perspective or anything like that, they were part of the problem. And that's how we treated that's how we treated it. So we started, started doing that. Like, we would not, we wouldn't even, go into businesses that, you know, that jump through hoops for the the CDC or anything like that. We just we just couldn't. We just couldn't. And we decided that that was this was the harsh harshest stand. And, like, some of them were like, oh, well, you know what? It's not like like, I I would tell people, ask your doctor. If you got COVID, how how would they treat it? If it's anything other than ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and budesonide, get yourself a new damn doctor because you don't know what else they're doing wrong. Right? They don't know what else they're just doing because the CDC told them to do it. So so you you have to make those hard hard decisions. And, and people people would be like, well, I would just go to a different doctor for COVID. Well, how can you trust them? Right? Like and that was our our position. Even when doctors would be like, oh, you gotta wear a mask because it's COVID. Okay. Take us off the list. Bye. See never see us again. Businesses, the same way. You're part of the problem. You're part of you're you're, you know I mean, I I always tell people, like, their behavior and the way that they're they're taking the knee and bowing down and doing whatever they're told, they're they're complicit in all the murder that's going on. That's how I Speaker 6: feel about it. Speaker 1: Absolutely. And the propagandists who laid the groundwork to make it acceptable for them to do this are also every bit as culpable, I think. Exactly. Exactly. And and I won't I won't Speaker 5: I it's such a you know, when I I drew that hard line, and then when I heard, when I heard, Brad talking about the snitch lines for the j sixers, there were snitch lines for for, people who went out of their house, for people who went to the park for they were around COVID. There there's all these snitch lines. They're nothing but a bun I mean, you it really showed you who the freaking Nazis were. Right? And and I you know, that's why we always say, if you ever wondered what you'd do in Nazi Germany, look yourself in the look yourself in the eye in the in the mirror because you're doing it now or you did it during COVID or whatever. So, you know, ask yourself if you can be proud. Speaker 1: We all have been tested. Yes. I mean, the the last several years have absolutely been an IQ test and an empathy test and a test of your moral fiber and and your fortitude and your stamina for dealing with absolute clown world BS. And those who who made it through and managed to to see what was actually going going on are are really few and far between. And we're we're really lucky, all of us, to have found each other and to have found the truth ultimately in all of these lies. Speaker 5: Yeah. Did did Heidi come up? I I sent Heidi she was next, and I sent her a request. Speaker 1: Yeah, Heidi. The space is really, really buggy tonight. So, if you tap my again to request again, we'll get you back up here. You were drop everyone was dropped momentarily, and I've never seen a space as buggy as this one has been tonight. Apparently, they don't want us talking about not pardoning Fauci and accountability for COVID related credit. Right. Speaker 5: Right. Exactly. Who's currently not? Can you hear me? Oh, I know she's just there, Heidi. Speaker 3: Hey. Speaker 7: Hey, Heidi. How are you? Oh oh, I didn't have anything big to say. I was just going to, I'm just glad I'm here, and I'm glad you're here, and it's made a big difference. So, but I I I mentioned, wanted to mention, I I didn't know if you had heard of that CEO at the, which was the National Healthcare Company? Or Speaker 5: United United Healthcare. Speaker 7: Yep. Yep. Yep. I just wondered if you heard that that story and I've been following it. Yeah. Just wondered. I mean, it's it's sort of strange. I mean, I wondered if it was some sort of a hotshot or something. Of course, that's speculation. But Speaker 5: No. I think, I mean, I didn't I did hear he was he was going to testify on about something that was related to, the some type of some type of stock, shenanigans. So I don't Yeah. Speaker 4: They were saying insider trading knowledge was happening. Something like that. Other weird things that were being talked about that there was monopoly money, in the backpack that was found. There was on some of the shell casings, words like deny, defend, depose. Speaker 5: There's a lot of weird hadn't yeah. Which related back to the stock stuff. But I you know? Right. I also would say you can't it's almost like you I you know, I was joking yesterday, which I shouldn't joke, but, you know, it looked like such a professional hit. And then when they were like when they were like, oh, they've recovered the backpack, Huckleberry may had had said to me he said, yeah. Because the guy gave it to them when he clocked in for work in the morning. Speaker 1: Like Exactly. Did you hear about the contents of the backpack? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 5: Yes. How much you wanna bet he turns out to be then they're like, oh, he was an anti vaxxer, and, this is why RFK Jr should not be in the government. You know what I mean? No. Please. Come on, David. Speaker 4: At this point, I would not be surprised by anything that they will do to use this and spin it and Yeah. Who knows? Speaker 1: It's also supposedly was I heard it was a woman, and they were also doing, like, a a look alike contest where people were showing up in the park wearing the same the same getup. Speaker 5: Really? Speaker 1: Like, it's a it's a cultural phenomenon right now for some reason, which really just Speaker 5: Interesting. Speaker 1: The the sad sad state of our society right now where everybody's kind of celebrating this. Speaker 5: Yeah. I didn't celebrate it, but, you know, it's it it is. And, you know, I there's people that that are speculating that somebody on that street was a spotter for him because it was just so like, you know, and I I would agree. I would agree that it it it's unusual that somebody could in New York City could hang out at the bumper of a vehicle. Right? And nobody harasses them. Right? Nobody's like, hey. What are you doing here? Get out. I don't know. I think there's more to be. I think you can't I think some of the stuff that's come out is the ultimate is a great example of the flicker effect. Right? Like, you're not gonna know what to believe. Speaker 1: And that's why I I never dial too deeply into these current event current thing things because, the current thing is always going to be packed full of distortion and misinformation and That's right. Kind of guiding you away from what might be real. And then your brain will just automatically turn off at some point to all this and and just quit paying any attention. And you don't wanna get to that point. So Speaker 5: all of the You don't. And and you wanna be able to take in new information. Right? Speaker 1: Exactly. And we live in a time where that that's part that's one of the weapons. It's just absolute bombardment with so much information that you can't find those little morsels of truth, and they bank on that. Speaker 5: Yeah. So just listen to everything we tell you. No. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Sometimes you went wrong. Speaker 7: Yeah. I I wonder what's going to happen in the next thirty days and just will Trump even actually get sworn in? Speaker 1: A question that I don't know. Ask that question, isn't it? It's the next thirty days are jam packed with excitement and trepidation. Speaker 5: You all know my per you all know my prediction because I say it all the time. I predict that Biden is going to, pardon Trump on the last day, and then he's gonna walk out of the White House with his his MAGA hat in hand and Jill in a red dress. Speaker 1: Yep. Well, you're an optimist, Gail. I I think he's trying right now, he is trying to to spend whatever he has hasn't already offshored to Ukraine to to offshore all tie up all of our treasure for the next decade in in like solar boondoggles and and the like. He's not doing it. Billion dollars right now, the solar boondoggles, but it's no startups. No innovation can come of this. It's all like there are these little rules. Like, you have to have your company for this many years, and you have to have this many spare parts to be able to get this money. So, like But is it him? Or is it you know what I mean? Like It's Podesta. Podesta is in charge of all of that. Speaker 5: Yeah. But, like but is it is is Joe even aware is Joe even aware of what like, does he is it him Speaker 1: where his shoes are at any given time. Yeah. Speaker 5: Somebody else is dealing with it. Obama. Speaker 1: And they've kind of conditioned us to to believe that it doesn't matter if we even have a president because we haven't had one for the last four years, which is, you know, it's effectively ceding power to the deep state. We can't let this happen. Speaker 4: 100%. Right. Speaker 5: I agree. Speaker 1: I see a hand. Speaker 5: Yay. Less of us talking and more of whoever has their hand up. Speaker 1: Go ahead, Brushfire. How are you doing? Speaker 23: Greetings, brothers and sisters. Brushfire here. I read science papers around the COVID nineteen pandemic and whatnot, and, I came across one today on my desk. I'm gonna post it in the nest if you wanna take a look, but it was titled oops. Sorry. It was titled psychiatric adverse events following COVID nineteen vaccination, a population based cohort study in Seoul, South Korea. And the study was aimed to investigate a psychiatric adverse effects after COVID nineteen vaccination. And they talked a little bit about possible frame shifting in the the study, but what they concluded was that, COVID nineteen vaccination affects occurrences of psychiatric disorders. It increases the risks of deep depression, anxiety, dissociative, stress related, and somatoform disorders and sleep disorders. So I just wanted to share that interesting, study that came out today, and I, will land it there. Thanks for having me. Speaker 1: It could also have something to do with the political division in the sample groups. I mean, just just putting that out there. But, yes, it is interesting. We, of course, were There'll be biases Speaker 20: on which groups, even just politically speaking, are taking it, and they're already predisposed to all of that much higher rates. So, I mean, yes, there there are lots of reasons and indications to think that it can and does directly cause neurological effects. But I think, as with anything, there's never any one fixed definite cause of it. And when you look at the gross data, like, you can see that there is a clear political divide in, you know, who's taking how many of them and, how often. And then when you look at the data behind those, you see that the group that is more inclined to take more of them is already substantially more predisposed to these various neurological and mental disorders. So Speaker 1: not nothing's ever as clear as it seems. But, But if prions are a thing, that would certainly explain all of the psychological Speaker 20: To a degree. Disorders, wouldn't it? To a degree. I mean, even strokes and blood clotting can make some differences, and the, protein the path is not just, prions themselves. But, yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of different factors that can go into any one thing. So sir certainly far and away not not saying that it's neurologically safe. I am definitely not saying that. Just just the perspective on what data can really mean when you look at it in one way versus another. Yep. Speaker 23: Yeah. What's interesting is that there was a well powered study, and it was a retrospective study. Speaker 20: Did it did it control for the I I haven't read this one. I'm not familiar with the study you're talking about. Was it control? I mean, I I find it difficult to imagine, but, I'm gonna say it's literally set out to control for, you know, secondary, factors like this, but they could have because the cohort is intrinsically biased towards these two groups and, you know, one of these two groups particularly. And, Speaker 1: I just sent you a study so you can check that out. I can't Speaker 20: really draw an even conclusion from that without accounting for all such factors. So I'll be oh, I'll have a look. Because where it's saying that it might it affects occurrences. So are they new? Are they old? Are they preexisting? Speaker 1: Yes. I'm just having a look over the abstracts that they put that you put here in this Well, he looks that over. We'll take the next speaker, and then we'll circle back to your brush file. Speaker 6: Art? Speaker 15: Yeah. So this one this one's a little more nuanced in relation to, you know, one of the effects of everything. So, you know, I'd been married before, and then, you know, we got my kids older and then met a woman. And we ended up getting married, and she ended and then COVID hit, and her 24 year old daughter convinced her to get the shot while I was arguing against it the whole time. Like, do not do this. So they both did it together. Her daughter ended up with, POTS disease and is completely infertile now. And now they're both extremely angry with me, kinda looking at me as the scapegoat. And, you know, we're actually in the process of a divorce right now because it's it's not gonna work, like, because of all of that bullshit. Like, everything was great, and everything was good before all of this like, so these are like like like I said, when I started, this was a more nuanced thing, but these are the kind of stories that nobody's talking about that these maniacs and psychopaths Speaker 5: caused. You mean the destruction of families? Speaker 15: That yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, destruction of, like, beautiful humans, beautiful fan. Like Mhmm. Like, this was not this isn't what I we signed up for. Like and we were doing great. Like, this was a beautiful, wonderful thing. You know? My kids love love her, and I love her. Speaker 5: But do they know so do they know that do they know that their, that the shot caused the problems that they caught that it caused? Yes. Speaker 15: Yeah. And they're mad at me. Speaker 4: May I ask you a question, Mark? Sure. Is there a, and I don't want any details from you, but, is that a rationalization on their part, or is it irrational anger? Like, are they trying to, like, can they verbalize why I'm mad at you because you didn't try hard enough to give or are they just mad, period, irrationally? Because I wonder if the if there's a psychological issue behind that anger. Speaker 15: Of course, it's psychological. Like, it's like they're angry about every like, they're angry about the whole situation, and it it's, you know, it's just landing here. Like, that's and there's no way to there's no way to remedy it. And that's and that is these are one these are one of these unspoken things about this whole atrocity that, like it's like, you motherfuckers and you know what? What's crazy about it? Because they did know. They did know that these kind of thing like, they knew they were gonna break families up. They knew they were gonna kill people. They knew that my mom sterile my mom. If you saw a picture of my stepdaughter, she's a 25 year old, gorgeous, beautiful, blue eyed, like, totally should've made babies. Totally. Cheerleader, student council president, like, all the and can't now. Like, she's sterile because she she fell for the fear. And I did my best. Like, I was like, guys, do not do like, this has not been tested. Please don't. Why aren't you doing it, Bart? I'm like, because it hasn't been tested. Like, there's no long term side effects studies because it's not possible to have long term side effects studies. Like, don't do that. You know? And now so now that she's injured and can't have babies, so and convinced her mom to do it. So now they're looking at like, every time they look at me, they're like, yeah, that motherfucker's telling us. Told you. Like, so it's old. Like, it's broken. It's all broken. And those motherfuckers knew it. Like, it would like, to this nth degree. So very sad. I just wanna share that bit of a story with people because, you know, the mainstream media and stuff is talking about, you know, what this, that, and it's like, dude, you have no idea how deep this has gone. It's so deep. It's sad. So, anyway, didn't mean to bring everybody down, but here we are. Speaker 4: No. Your story is very important because I'm sure that there's so very many others that have experienced the same thing but are suffering in silence. And so I think it does help for everyone to tell their story because then at least you know you're not alone. Speaker 15: Yeah. I mean, I know I'm not alone, but I I just as far as the repercussions go, you know, it's like the fact that people don't understand. Why are people so mad at Fauci? It's like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, you ruined the you ruined the marriage that I thought I was supposed to have, you motherfuckers. Like you know? So I'm gonna, yeah, like mhmm. I know. Speaker 4: I am so sorry. I I'm really am sorry that you have gone through that. Speaker 12: I they quickly looked at this study. So I I think I could answer the question about whether they know what, what the cause of the anxiety or depression. No. The study was not designed to do that because it this study is just based on registry of a diagnosis that appears at, one week, two weeks, four weeks, and three months, after the, you know, vaccination date and and the match, unvaccinated people. So so it's just intended to collect a large number, of peoples, with the the incidence per 10,000. It's, you know, included, over a million people in the study. So so it has the power to to say, yeah. This is statistically significant, but it won't have it won't have the detail that we want to look at. Why why is this happening? Because they're only looking at, registration data or claim data, what kind of diagnosis was being, reported. Yeah. Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Unfortunately, Brushfire, who asked that question, has dropped, but, hopefully, he'll get on the recording and Speaker 20: and hear that good answer. Was it somebody that was coming back to ask about it? No. Doctor Speaker 1: doctor Lynn was just, telling us that the study wasn't meant to be done. I mean I'm sorry. Doctor, would you would you paraphrase what you just said so my husband can benefit from it? So Speaker 12: so studies so the especially when it comes to a, mental health or psychiatric diagnosis, if you want deep dig deeper, the study has to be small because you have to interview people to find what's behind certain things. But when it's only looking at, say, wanting to get a tower, say, okay. We we know that this is occurring in the broad population, and they they were looking at records of, claim data from a million people. You know, there are four four point five or 4,600,000 peep eligible people in Seoul. They looked at over a million of them. So so that's a lot of, data that they looked at. But but they were only able to look at just plain data, you know, what diagnosis appear after one week, two week, four weeks, and three months of vaccination compared to those who never got vaccinated. So that's just it it you know, it it can provide a, you know, snapshot of what's what's happening at that time across the population, but it's not gonna be able to answer some of the question as what is the specific reason, whether it's a some neurochemistry being affected or whether that or the high pressure campaign is, causing, you know, these fragile minds to break up. And and while the other ones who who resisted were the ones who was who have a stronger psyche. Yeah. We we wouldn't know. Speaker 20: Right. Yeah. That that's that is kind of what I was going to do on the same lines of looking at the other factors that, you won't always be able to see. And I have to say, I made those comments before not having had the opportunity to read the study yet though. And it, it actually really surprised me that it was so well powered. Speaker 5: And I think in I mean, Speaker 11: I didn't have Yeah. Having read it, I didn't have any immediate Speaker 20: criticisms that, would really because I mean, you see a lot of these studies, especially the positive ones, you can look at them. And usually within five minutes, it's fairly easy to write them off as they've made some critical underlying error that allows them to show that, oh, the vaccine is great and saved 20,000,000 people or something. But I Mhmm. It didn't jump out at me as so, you know, so fatally flawed that, the conclusions are meaningless. So, I mean, I I would take the conclusions in that seriously that, for whatever reason there may be, that there is definitely a signal there that various these various increased psychological problems have been and are being caused somehow, some way by either of the shot itself or something around the shot or something to do with who takes the shot. But some there's some there's some connection to the shot and those people having their disorders. I think that's a reasonable conclusion to drop on that. Speaker 12: So but but let me just, pause it that one. You know, the the the person that I was saying that the the vaccine injured person that I was seeing, she got labeled anxiety, depression because they couldn't find a reason for her pain. Yeah. So, you know, every specialist that said that, oh, you're just anxious. You're just dead because we didn't find anything wrong with you. You you just come you you come in complaining. My head is about to explode, and, you know, I'm I'm on fire in the whole body. Yeah. It could be worse than just what they're saying being neurological problems. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's actually I I think it's, actually a lot of the other problem that they they were filing under mental health, but but they're they they're vest injured. They we we have a lot of vest injured people who just they they couldn't find under the current, pathophysiology or new diagnostic structure to find something that they can put diagnosis on there to say, okay. So you're just anxious. Speaker 20: Well, it's 07:00. Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. That's just terrible. Freshfire, I wanna give you a chance to respond to that since you're back up. Speaker 23: You know, I accidentally dropped out, and I didn't I'm so sorry. I didn't hear the whole thing, but, yeah. Speaker 1: Sorry. Well, come back come back and listen to the recording. There's a lot of good information relevant to the question you asked. And and I appreciate you bringing the study to our attention because we Yeah. We weren't familiar with that. Adams, Speaker 23: put it out so more people will become aware of it now. I think, Yeah. The story is basically, you know, the spike protein itself is is causing damage. You know? It can happen in, natural wild type infection and more so it just seems that it happens in the, the vaccinated with the exception in this study, surprisingly, to schizophrenia. So, anyways, it's just another data point worth worth looking at. Speaker 12: And and the schizophrenia is probably because those people who refuse to get vaccinated probably just got labeled. These are crazy people. The the the doctors probably just calling him crazy because they say, no. We're not gonna get vaccinated. Speaker 1: So Absolutely terrible. Speaker 12: Yeah. Speaker 1: Takt, did you have a question or something you wanted to add? Speaker 11: Yeah. Thank thanks for having the space. And it's, like, it's, fascinating to me is that, so many people are, ignoring the fact that, there's there's a a long history of of a viral or in postviral, you know, chronic issues that often get, mislabeled and get written off as, like, psychological disorders. And in many cases, it is actually impacting the brain as so many different studies have shown, in what was just talking about as far as the spike protein. I I post I just posted a study, in the comments below. That is a recent study. I think it was just posted, the November, and it talks about how, spike protein impacts the brain. But, this this from infection. Now there's only maybe twenty percent of people that are getting vaccinated at this point, at least with the latest booster. I think some somewhere between seventeen and 19 in The US. So, the thing the thing to keep in mind is that nearly every single person is getting infected with COVID, whether they know it or not, two to four times a year. And, eighty percent people aren't getting vaccinated. So there is this thing that, for some reason, a lot of people want to ignore that there's a virus that is capable of, impacting the brain and basically, systemically impacting the body. But, I'm just not sure why especially with the, you know, people you know, with the, the guy that was talking about getting divorced. And I I know this know this situation well myself, but there I think I think we're we're all just, like, a little bit misunderstanding what's happening, and and it sucks that we can't we can't, like, all, get get it get it get along on the get on the same wavelength. I think it's like we're just, like, missing a little bit. Speaker 20: I think we are pretty close on that. You might have me or us mistaken for somebody else here a little bit. I put out a lot of the earlier science that was showing just how bad the spike protein itself is. And, obviously, that does include the virus and the vaccine. And while a lot a lot of the death directly that resulted from a stent to be the virus was due really to the murderers hospital protocols and so forth, I'm and I'm sure many are aware that the virus itself does have these terribly deleterious effects as well. And what really interests me is that when often people will come in and start talking about, you know, look look at the virus. It's the virus and the spike protein that is causing so much of this, and we have to deal with long COVID and so on and so forth. And to that, I say, absolutely. So why is it that we are injecting trillions of spike proteins into people? Because when you've got when you've got a virus or you've got you've got lots and lots of viruses in an active infection, there is still far less actual spike protein exposure to a person from any one infection than there is from trillions of free spikes floating around that have already been changed by they're in a different form. They are not in a, mitigated form where they can't do any damage. They're still they've still got lots of these epitopes that, bind to various places and cause the damage. And moreover, you've also got the frame shifting where even if you if you get the mRNA shots and you're not even ending up with entirely as much spike protein as was supposed to be there, you're ending up with totally random proteins instead, which really is no improvement at all. So personally, I'm I'm with you that, yes, the virus itself is dangerous too. I think that does get overlooked because the virus has been used for so much beyond just public health. It's been used as an excuse for so much of this enhanced government control and surveillance and, you know, all of these social changes that, were attempted and have largely been defeated. But, Speaker 5: I wouldn't But don't you think that was by don't you think that was by design, Adam? Like, because Oh, yeah. It is gain of function. Right? It's gain of function. Yep. And that's why it acts differently than a virus. Speaker 6: Yeah. Speaker 5: And and then you add to the fact that part of the death protocol is the don't treat them with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and we get it. See Speaker 20: you. Right. So it it just gets me sometimes that, you know, you'll be talking about the dangers of the vaccine and the harms attributed to the vaccine. And, you know, then the conversation will shift to, wait, what about the virus? And, you know, yes, the virus is bad. The virus has a spike, as does the vaccine. Both of these things are bad. So maybe we should use the ivermectin to prevent the virus and Right. Put the people that put the vaccine out there on trial. So maybe we don't do that again anymore either. Speaker 1: That's about this. Right. Does that answer Well, the people intact. Speaker 11: So so so we're ignoring the virus that we have no choice of getting infected with based based on the current societal, viewpoint, and you can choose not to get vaccinated. So and most people are choosing not to get vaccinated. Right? So I just If that's the if that's the case, then Yep. Don't shouldn't we be looking at the fact that there's Speaker 5: this virus is still rapidly evolving to evade the immune system? Yeah. And No. Like like, you treat the virus. You treat the virus. Right? Like, you you you allow the so they had to demonize ivermectin, hydroxychlor chloroquine, and budesonide as a treatment because, otherwise, you couldn't even have the death dart. Let's not call it a vaccine because it's not a vaccine. It doesn't prevent anything. It doesn't stop anything. It doesn't reduce anything. It doesn't do anything except for, I mean, it is a kill shot. That it's that's it's it's not safe and effective. It's not it wouldn't even exist if they hadn't killed, murdered, euthanized people in in mass in the hospitals. They killed them with they poisoned them, and I'm a survivor. I'm a survivor. I know from being in the hospital, they were murdering people left and right as fast as they could. They didn't intend for anybody to leave, and it was to drive up the numbers so that people would run out and put this shot in their arm. But the reality is they were killing people. Speaker 4: Yes. And that's what I'm saying. It wasn't Speaker 5: COVID killing people. It was the protocols, the lack of treatment, the the drugs that they gave, the overdosing, the the absolute neglect and abuse that they perpetrated upon patients. And we've documented so many stories, looked at so many medical records. It was across the nation in almost every hospital by I mean, Speaker 11: they're serial killers. The the the staff Alright. Alright. You're you're but you're living in the past. That's No. No. I'm not living in the past. Right right now right now No. Speaker 6: No. No. No. No. No. No. You stop. Right now Speaker 11: there's thousands of people dying Speaker 5: every day. Right now there's thousands of people dying every day. Protocol. They're being killed by the protocols. We still get we still get calls for from relatives to save somebody from the hospitals because of the same protocols. They haven't changed anything. They haven't changed the protocol. They're still using the same death protocol. That's what you don't understand. People are not going in. When when when we keep people out of the hospitals and we give them ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and budesonide, they live they're they're recovered in a couple days couple days. When they go into the hospital and they get remdesivir, baricitinib, tesilizumab, even if they take Paxlovid or any of the other drugs, they're dying. Speaker 1: Like, okay. So it's a virus. Why are we throwing everything we know about treating viruses out the window? Yeah. Correct. Speaker 8: It's so stupid. And Speaker 4: and I also want to say that if you know anything about how a virus behaves Yep. Know that the more that it is challenged and mutates, it becomes more transmissible but less deadly. Yep. Okay? That is how it works. That is science tact. Speaker 11: That's the way it works. That's exactly what happened. And that is that is 100% false. I'm sorry. That's not true. That's not that's absolutely true. Your mouth is at muted again, buddy, Speaker 4: because that is fat. Speaker 11: Okay. Is measles less deadly? Is AIDS less deadly? That's bullshit. Speaker 4: Yeah. Right. Okay. Right. That is absolutely the truth about, immunology. And the second thing is I know what your tack is. You are trying to basically say that we shouldn't we should only be worrying about the virus. This is another fear tactic from those who, quote, follow the science, and we aren't here for that. Okay? We're here to to speak truth Speaker 5: and to tell the truth about what has happened. Yeah. And I you know what? And I'm I'm just gonna say this. I don't give a shit about any all of the studies as far as I'm concerned. I don't really care what they say. I know what eyewitnesses have said. I know what survivors have said. I know what families have experienced. I know what it says in these medical records. I know what's actually going on because that's the reality. That's the reality everybody's afraid to look at. When they when they vent people for behavioral control, not for medical reasons over and over and over again, it's to kill them. What everything that they've done is to kill people in the hospital. So people like you will be so gullible that you'll believe that the virus is killing people. Oh, COVID's this cold is killing people. Well, I mean, and it's I will tell you. It's gen it it's mutated. It's it's, I mean, it's a bioweapon because it is it it is gain of function. I get it. It's a bioweapon. My, you know, my husband was a bioweapons officer in the military. I get it. It's bioweapon. It's a bioweapon, and it behaves a little bit different than a virus, but not that different. No. So so do you believe that you're safe because you don't take a vaccine? Yep. You're damn right I do. You're damn right I do. Believe. Because you know what? I'm I'm safe I'm safe because because I know how to treat it. Do you I'm safe because I can because I know ivermectin will will will treat it. Speaker 1: And do you believe that's safe because you're up to date with your thirteenth freaking booster? Do you does that make you feel safe and effective and secure? Speaker 20: What's what protein there? Right. Extra Speaker 5: protein. Protein. Speaker 11: Yeah. I I I I personally build immunity, but I I Ivermectin definitely doesn't work. Oh, it absolutely works. It absolutely works. You're such an idiot. Speaker 5: I I I I will tell you I will tell you that's what I mean, I've given it to my grandkids, and it's cured them in a freaking day. Speaker 4: Yeah. And I will tell you this too. I have had COVID the first time when my husband died. I've been exposed three other times to people who were so ill. They ended up in the hospital. I was living in the house with them house with them in closed environs with them coughing and backing up tongues. And guess who never got COVID a second time? Me. Because you take the ivermectin once a week. And I'm 61 years old. So this this scare tactic about, oh, it's still out there and it's deadly is Oh, yep. Speaker 5: Every single person that have that has taken ivermectin or has gotten their loved one out of the hospital has taken ivermectin or people that we've gotten into the the hospitals where they have rubbed liquid ivermectin on their loved one, doctors are, like, amazed. Why is this person getting better? Ivermectin Ivermectin absolutely works. Budesonide works. Hydroxychloroquine works. So vitamins work. Vitamin c. Remember the guy we he was the doctor said he was gonna die that night die that night, and his wife begged them to to do high dose vitamin c in a in a in an IV. No. She got him transferred to a home to a hospice hospital and on the way canceled the hospital and redirected the ambulance to her house where she had somebody ready to give him IV, vitamin c. And this man who was not conscience conscious was walking around his living room later that day. The man that was going to die. I mean, the this is this is a the it is an absolute farce, and you're so gullible that you gobble up what you see on the evening news and the numbers of deaths from COVID. And it's and you're you have eyewitnesses telling you there's so many eyewitnesses witness stories. They're murdering people in the hospitals, murdering them Thank you. Flat out. Speaker 1: If if I can, if anyone can hear me. Can anyone hear me? We can hear you. Okay. I wasn't I wasn't sure. But I just want to note the absolute irony that this account is called TACT. Right. Henceforth I saw it. Against COVID transmission and is is spreading alleged strategies to avoid cut COVID and respiratory viruses, which include Paxlovid. And, and I haven't gotten into to it yet, but I'm sure wearing a mask is somewhere in this massive freaking threat. Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure. I'm I'm sure of it. If you actually want to help people, Speaker 1: if you actually want to prevent COVID transmission, you will shut up up and tune in and listen to what these amazing people are trying to tell you because there are ways to easily prevent COVID transmission. Speaker 5: Yeah. It's called ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and butyricide. And Speaker 4: you take the studies are out there. The more you take, the more you get COVID. Okay? Because what it does is it causes a shift from IGG three to IGG four Yep. Which tamps down your immune response. And so the best defense against COVID is to not take the vaccines and to support your immune system. I'm 61 years old. I have never, never caught COVID since the first time. And the reason is because I haven't taken the vaccine and because I support my immune system. And people quite honestly, people like you need to Speaker 5: you you need to broaden your education. You you need to look at I I don't know. Maybe why don't you I don't know Speaker 1: if you heard Adam on his way out of the room, but he said you need to catch up on the science of ivermectin. Absolutely. Speaker 4: Numerous studies that now Absolutely. And ivermectin is extremely important for those who have taken the vaxxers because once again, the studies are there that show correspondingly the more vaccines, quote, COVID vaccines you take, Speaker 5: the more susceptible you are Yeah. To COVID. And why don't you as far as the IgG Speaker 4: to I IgG three to IgG four shift. This is science. Speaker 5: So ivermectin is extremely important to those who've taken the vaccine more so than to those of us who haven't. But he's selling immune system. But he's selling Paxlovid. Right? I mean, he's selling the AIDS drugs. He's selling the he's selling the fear porn, the panic porn. He has everyone. Speaker 11: Hold on. You guys you guys are you guys are up tact. Words. Way up. Okay. I'm gonna give tact about Speaker 1: twenty seconds to express his, summarize his thoughts, and then we're going to go to the numerous actual victims of COVID related crimes against humanity who are patiently waiting for their chance to talk now. Absolutely. This trollish behavior for far too long already. I know. We knew it was a troll going in, though. That's so We're gonna give you a chance to say your piece, and then come off mic, and we're gonna continue the space. Speaker 5: Go ahead, Charles. Speaker 11: Alright. Thanks, for allowing me to speak again. Now Speaker 5: let me see if I could, sum this up. Everything was so wrong. Every every single thing you guys just said. No. It wasn't. Now I'm gonna You put that in a lot. Crazy. Now I'm just gonna shut down. On. You said, first of all, I'm gonna shut you over talk. I'm gonna shut you down. Be able to talk for a couple times. Don't you tell me. Don't you fucking ever tell me as a survivor when some when they try to euthanize my ass in the hospital along with many other people, we save people from the hospitals every damn day. Every damn day. What do you do? You put out this bullshit that that actually causes death. You are a fucking murderer. You are a murderer. That's what you are. And your information that's out there is murderous. I don't we don't have to entertain you. Y'all have had nonstop nonstop Censorship of the truth, which cost millions of lives, not COVID. You, sir, and your ilk have cost millions of lives by your in the information you put out, the demonization of shit that works like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and budesonide that has saved multiple lives that would have saved that saved me, that saved me, all of these doctors that y'all went after, you, sir, are a freaking you're just as responsible for every single murder that happened in the name of COVID with COVID on it because not only did you put out this this crap and you you don't even know what you're talking about. I mean, you literally don't know what you're talking about. You you peddled You go. You peddled freaking poison. You peddle poison. You suppress other information, and you have for years. You're responsible. You're just as responsible, and you're just an idiot. Like, you're a goat that would eat anything, including poison, just because you're told to. I mean, you we shouldn't be entertaining you. We shouldn't be entertaining you. You're ignorant. You haven't looked at one That's the best thing you can say about him, Gail. Is that true? Hasn't looked at he has he looked at thousands? Look at a look at thousands of medical records of people who died supposedly of COVID, and you'll see that they were murdered in the hospital. So you I mean, it's just he's an idiot. Used to to treat a virus, Speaker 1: give or take ivermectin, and absolutely none of them include fentanyl. So Right. Or that near Morphine. Smoke it. Speaker 5: Right. Exactly. Or morphine or propofol or, any countless other Ativan. Right? Haldol, chemo. Right? Like, all the shit that they gave people. Speaker 1: They actually had to have the prisons, like, stop stop using their euthanasia medication to to provide it to the COVID patients. I mean Right. Yeah. So they could kill them. Speaker 5: So this guy's an idiot. Can you just bounce him? Speaker 1: Yeah. I was trying to interject before you went on your tirade. Speaker 5: Right. Sorry. I I get I you know what? Minutes. I you know what? The the rules that we have in the spaces, we trolls get no quarter given to trolls. No quarter given to trolls. They have had their reign of terror, their reign of all of this bullshit. Go on to Zuckerberg's platform and peddle your dumbass Speaker 1: shit. And I'm sorry. I'm swearing a lot. I so generously gave him twenty seconds to summarize his thoughts, and he couldn't give it that. I shut him up. And what's and then he said, well, you're you're wrong. No surprise. Speaker 4: Yeah. So The first thing he says is you're wrong. He thinks that's gonna go wrong. He doesn't he doesn't even know. Speaker 5: Like, okay. So he's looked at the medical records we've looked at? He he knows he was in the hospital room with me when they said they were gonna kill me. Like, he he knows what the survivors that have lived to tell the tales. So shut the freak up. What he knows is what he read that he wants to believe. But like Adam said, he's not even caught up on on the on the science around and the studies around ivermectin. I mean, he's still pushing Paxlovid? Come on. Come on, man. A freaking HIV drug with five black box warnings. Oh, I don't know why. I guess COVID kills the kidneys. No. It couldn't be the Paxlovid that says right on it. It does kidney damage. No. Speaker 1: No. Not that. What he's for. Speaker 5: Right. I mean, come on, man. There. Speaker 7: Freaking Speaker 4: dumbass. Well, well, we're he did one service to us. We're all energized in our adrenaline. It's going now. We can go longer. Yeah. We knew. I mean, we knew. We knew he was a troll going in. That was just Speaker 5: to entertain ourselves, I I think. Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes a troll can be a a good opportunity to say things we wouldn't otherwise say to get those things on the record because that was a lot of different stuff that you guys put out. Kevin, like, come on, man. Like, he's gonna come on here, and he's like when when I saw I mean, before before Speaker 5: before you approved him, when I looked at his his page, and I'm like, what? Like, he's Paxlovid? Come on. Oh, what an idiot. I bet I I knew it. I was like, he's gonna he that's why I brought up ivermectin because I knew he's gonna be like, ivermectin doesn't work. Well, you noticed that he got he got so discombobulated that he couldn't come up with an argument, so he just says, you're wrong. You're wrong. He was You're wrong. Nearly outmatched. We we Speaker 1: stop. He's already dead. We, like, we totally. Speaker 5: Well, I mean, like, look. I I really do feel that way about, you know, new studies show. Like, you gotta pin your song. Right? Like, like, new studies okay. Studies, whatever. I take those with a grain of thought a grain of salt. They they do not they do not trump the real experience. Like, this this guy that was just on, like, you literally he could see he could witness a car accident where one car just sped through a stoplight and rammed another. And if there was a study that said it didn't happen, he'd be like, no. There's a study that said it didn't happen. It was COVID. You know, like, COVID crashed into the car. Like, I mean, that's how how he would be. He wouldn't even believe his own eyes or his own experiences. Right? But, you know, Speaker 4: Well and I'm sure he's gonna cherry pick the studies that fit his own narrative as well. Yeah. Because, you know, if you if you look, you can find the truth. He doesn't want the truth. No. I mean and he's, you know, I mean, he's he was he's on his thirteenth he's on his thirteenth booster too. So, like, to believe the truth Speaker 5: right now would be to believe that there's poison running through his veins. Right? What Like like, he's gonna I wish I wish actually you know, I wish t bird had been on I wish T bird had been on right now and and a few others because when he's like, take the you know, I know you take the shot because it's better. Right? Like, I mean, they're literally in Canada offering people made because they're so damaged. Or where's where's hurricane Sheldon? I think you need their Speaker 1: He's not just some dude. He's running this org Yes. That is telling people with he's got 7,500 followers, telling them that the most important thing you can do Speaker 5: is Is get your thirteenth booster. Speaker 1: COVID. And and, yes, stay up to date on your boosters. Did you hear him, though? He was like, no. I'm not up to date on my boosters. I have immunity. Like, what the Yeah. What number what Speaker 5: what number was it that that gave you the that gave you apparently immunity? Speaker 1: I wanna get to Care Bear, though, because she's been patient. Speaker 5: Been patient. Speaker 1: Hey, Care Bear. How you doing, Care Bear? Hey there. Alright. Speaker 17: Okay. I'm gonna tell you my story. I've got a I've got a bunch of them, but I'll just I'll narrow it down to the remdesivir. So my husband got COVID from 11 vaccinated people at the gym. He never went anywhere but to the gym, and, he got COVID from them. We believe anyway. Two days later, he had such a high fever. He couldn't breathe. He had to get rushed to the hospital under an ambulance. The ambulance, the fire department guys in the ambulance, they didn't even wanna transport him. They were arguing with him. Oh, you're not really that sick. He couldn't even breathe. He was, like, he couldn't he was gasping for breath. So we argue with them. They finally agreed to take him. They said the hospital was on lot on code black. Then he gets into the hospital. They I never got a I was blocked at the door. I followed them in my car in the ambulance in my car. I was blocked at the door. They've told me I couldn't go in. In a in the entire week that he was in the hospital, I never got notified that he was alive, he was dead, nothing. Nobody called me. Not one hospital person called me. When he got in there, so he's by himself, thank God he had the for the fortitude to put his phone and his charger in his back pocket with, you know, with his wallet. Otherwise, I never would have known what his condition was. Our daughter is an emergency room nurse. She went to the hospital. They wouldn't let her in. It wouldn't give her any information, and she was working for the same hospital system. Go figure. Well, anyway, they gave him remdesivir. And a week later, he came out of the hospital with kidney failure, an enlarged liver, and diabetes. Now how that happened, we don't know because he didn't have any of that before he went in. Anyway, within one year of him having gone into the hospital, he'd he all of a sudden, he has to have open heart surgery. So remdesivir affected all of his organs. It was awful. Speaker 5: Yes. That's exactly right. It wasn't COVID didn't didn't affect his organs. It was remdesivir. You know? I mean Yeah. I'm so sorry. Speaker 17: Yeah. His and and here's the thing. Our friend is a fireman, and when he found out that my husband was rushed to the hospital, he called me immediately, and he said, how do you have any symptoms of COVID? And I said, yeah. I think I've got it. I have a runny nose, and I didn't I wasn't feeling great. And he rushed over. He rushed me over for ivermectin, and he said, take one of these a day, and it will kill the COVID. So I did. All I got was a runny nose. That was it. Yeah. So the Ivermectin works. Yeah. Exactly. Speaker 5: So many people see, this is one of the things one of the things so this is one of the things I think we need to do. This I I've I've wanted to do this, and I don't even know if we should do it. Just even written stories of I took ivermectin, I got better. How many of those could we collect, do you think? I mean Hundreds and thousands of them. Yeah. I think I think that's a If we go worldwide, literally a million. I think we millions. I think we should have people put their ivermectin story in, you know, and and then just even have a have a site where Speaker 1: Just like we have the the ivermectin graphic, just the information out about ivermectin in the first place Just Yeah. Human would remember that. And then we got You know? Hundreds of doctors to sign at the bottom. We could just put out a general statement to what we know everyone pretty much experienced, and they could just sign Yeah. It. And then the they could put in their story Okay. Optional. So we just get, you know, get all those hands raised. Speaker 17: Right. Well, we live in Costa Rica now. We moved right after we had open heart surgery. And the funny thing is you can walk into any pharmacy in Costa Rica, and you can buy over ivermectin over the counter, and it's just pennies on the dollar. Yep. It's cheap. And everybody here uses it because it kills it kills viruses, and it kills, parasites. So that's it. I mean, every his doctor, his primary doctor, she was she's from Peru, and she said to him, everybody and we we everybody is recommended to use ivermectin. Speaker 5: And it's and it's so safe. It's, the world's Yeah. Top 10 safest, most effective, most useful drugs. Speaker 17: Yeah. So bad in The US during COVID. Yeah. That was a good idea. Kids took it for for what? For lice? Speaker 1: For like whose article was, ivermectin and underutilized public health strategy. And their their guidance was to give it out by the, you know, by the hundreds of thousands. Just dose everybody with ivermectin because it's so safe, and it protects against all these things. And then in the middle of COVID, they took down that page. They took down that page because we were using it to say, look. Even the WHO says it's totally safe. Speaker 5: And they were like, oh, we can't get the remdesivir in a moment. Speaker 1: And the decisions are crimes against humanity too. They tried to suppress it. Yeah. Speaker 17: One other thing I'm gonna tell you is that one of our relatives, 65 years old, healthy male I mean, healthy. Like, he worked out all the time. He he was in, I mean, pound hard chest. I mean, he was really in great shape. He got COVID. He went into the hospital in Jupiter, Florida, came out a week later. And two days later, he died of kidney failure. He was given remdesivir. Yep. Speaker 5: Dead. And and, like, and and that idiot that was just on that idiot that was this on would be like, no. COVID COVID attacks the kidneys. Like, I mean, look. Speaker 17: It's not the bad. Failure is number one. I mean, you probably already know, but kidney failure is one of the one of the number one things that I that Remdesivir just, but it also affected my husband's heart. He was tested. He's a he's a USA boxing coach. He's in excellent condition. You know, that's where he got the COVID from, all the boxers at the gym. Speaker 22: And, it it you know? New surgeries. I had two extensive heart tests before the surgery. Speaker 17: Yeah. And I was fine. And he was fine. He was cleared. And then all of a sudden, he gets COVID. And, yeah. He's got every he's got every illness in the world when he enlarged liver. Come on. And they told him he had diabetes. Why? He's never had die and he doesn't have diabetes now. So what? That was insane. I know. The fact that they the fact that they would not let me have any communication with him nor my daughter or my son-in-law, both of them are emergency room nurses. They would not have let anybody in the family have contact with him until they were ready to discharge him. And then they could meet him in we could meet him in the parking lot. Wow. It was awful. I mean, they what they did to people, this is crimes against humanity. It is just awful. It it's awful what what was perpetrated on people. And the the isolation is even worse. My mother died from COVID in a nursing home in Canada. And I I would I couldn't cross the border to go home because, you know, the Canadian government told me I would have to wear an ankle monitor for fourteen days. Or if I broke the if I broke my quarantine, I would, have to pay $750,000 fine or six months in prison. So my mother was buried three days later. How could I go to the funeral? I couldn't. Yeah. No. I'm telling you, the shit that they pulled is un un is unconscionable. Yeah. And somehow that's gonna be okay. Yeah. I don't think so. A lot of people everybody has a a story about people that they loved that were harmed, including themselves. You know? It's terrible. It's just absolutely terrible what happened. Speaker 5: Yeah. I agree. I agree. Yep. Speaker 1: And I don't know. You came on kinda late, but we just put out a video. It is my pen tweet right now, and it's also up in the nest with, just ten minutes of back to back people saying over and over again describing how their loved ones were isolated or they were isolated. Speaker 6: Yep. But I'm sure Speaker 5: but I'm sure that there'll be a study that says that nobody was ever isolated, and that guy that was just, that guy that was just out be like, well, there's a study that says that there wasn't any isolation going on because, like, I read it I read it on the internets that it wasn't happening. Exactly. I'm pretty precise Speaker 1: about why we are compiling these videos. And this is a project that has been in the works for literally three years. This is a project where we're we're going through every single video of the numbers of thousand that we've interviewed. And and just pulling out these little back of that that you can compile into these paper cuts that make it incontrovertible. When you watch this, you can't deny that it happened because you just have Speaker 5: 30 people tell you about how it happened. That guy is just on. He'll deny it. He'll be like, he'll be like, well, I read it on the Internet. It wasn't happening. So what CNN told me. Speaker 17: Yeah. Yeah. CNN told you. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're the source for all good news. Exactly. Speaker 5: He's probably being paid a pretty penny to play dumb about this, man. Oh, yeah. It pushed it pushed tax livid. Yeah. Like, I mean, that isn't that what all the sellouts and the killers are doing? Speaker 17: Yeah. I I I'll tell you too. I'll my the fireman got our friend, the fireman that brought me to four ivermectin, he had been running. He was he ran calls to Disney. And after they rolled out the shots, he was seeing Yeah. Stuff in the ambulances that would be the just stuff that never happened before. I mean, just gross. Gross. And side effects, injuries. Wow. It was just it was mind boggling. He was sharing some of the stories with us, and we were like, wow. And you can't you can't even believe it. You think that the people are he but, I mean, he's a friend of ours. So, you know, I know I know he's not. I mean, he saved my life. I believe he saved my life because I started getting symptoms. So, you know You know, one of the things about that, and I hate to go back to that guy that was just on, but, Speaker 5: like, one of the thing one of the ways you know he's full of crap is he even said he's not up to date. If he believed what he was peddling, he'd have his thirteenth booster already. Speaker 22: Yeah. Right. Yeah. Speaker 17: I think it's cognitive dissonance. That's what I think it is. You know, your your mind can't accept that you fell for this horrible crime, you know, this horrible thing. You took the shot, and now you can't take it back because you got it, you know, or more. My brother's on his sixth booster, and he was looking forward to having another one. I mean, I tried saying it, but why? Yeah. It hasn't did it stop you from getting COVID? No. Right. Exactly. Times have you had COVID? Three times. Oh, well, then what good was it? Well, I didn't get it as bad. Well, you know what? It would have been gone immediately if you took ivermectin too. Speaker 5: Exactly. Like, it Exactly. And you wouldn't and you wouldn't have the poison. Like like, how to put say you wouldn't have put all them that spike protein in your body that's replicating and not I mean, there's people, like, literally, there's people that come on to these spaces every week that are that are injured, dying, trying to save their lives and their friends' lives from this damn shot. And he's peddling this crap, and and they're they would do anything to turn back the clock and not have taken it. You know, I hate to out I think about Shell and I think about T Bird in particular and Lindsay. Yeah. I talked to her. And and they would do do it. I mean, here they are. Here is this big Ernesto, the Martins whose daughter was killed. Like, these people are out there day and night trying to save other people's lives Yeah. Other people's lives with the truth. And then you got this yin yang that comes on here pushing the shots when so many people have been killed or maimed or Yeah. Changed forever. Speaker 17: Yeah. I had a girl I had a friend that came into my office the day they started allowing the elderly. They had to get the elderly first. So she lined up. She's a 74 year old nurse. She's an oncology nurse. She comes into the she comes into she's retired, but she came into the office into my office to see me. And within a minute, she started slurring her words. She had just got her Pfizer shot an hour before, her first one. She starts slurring her words. One of the girls sitting next to me immediately says, oh my god. She's having a stroke. She had a massive stroke, and she was in rehab for six months. And then and then talking about my no. T bird. She's I'm Canadian too. So I I've talked to her before. Answers for answers for Sean is Dan Hartman. Yeah. 17 years old son. Well, I I went to high school with Dan's cousin. So I've known about his whole case since day one. But, you know, he died. He died at 17 years old, dead because he wanted to play hockey. Yeah. You know, that's how crazy Canada is, how how dystopian they are now commie they're commies. So it's just awful. It's Speaker 22: Let me I will I will say this. This is Mark, Caroline. I'm I'm Keith. That's my husband. Mhmm. I I I, you know, I had the I was in the hospital five days. I got out. Of course, I lived. Thank God. Mhmm. The heart thing just blew my mind. Everybody in the family was like, what the hell? Here's the guy that boxes three or four hours a day. I train kids. I do everything. I run. Seventy years. I'm 73 now. 70 back then. But ever since I've gotten out of the hospital, I've never had COVID again. But every time I get a runny nose or a sniffle or my throat starts scratching, what do I do? Ivermectin. That's right. And guess what? In two days, it's gone. Gone. Yep. Right now, right as we're speaking, right now, I'm on my second day because I started getting a chest thing yesterday, and I was coughing and, you know, everything. I took it last night, and I'm on my third one now. Yep. And I feel a hell of a lot better than I did yesterday. That's right. Because it works. So me nuts. Yeah. And, I mean, I know. My daughter's so mad because I never got the shot because she's a nurse, but she's had COVID, like, three or four times. Not serious. Not like me, but she's been sick as hell and had to miss work for four or five days. You know? Yeah. But, you know, she she won't believe in the ivermectin either. But No. Because the because somebody, you know, the the news media has told everybody that it's, oh, it's forced to wormer like they did with Joe Rogan. Exactly. Speaker 5: Exactly. When it's when it's been people medicine forever, like, I mean Absolutely. I mean, it also, you know, it's also in heartworm medication for dogs. But, you know, you know, there's a lot of arthritis medicines that that, they use for dogs and and livestock. Right? But we still have the human the pharmaceutical grade human version of it. This the stupidest thing that they ever said was, well, it's it's for horses. Stop it. You're not a horse. Whatever. But, you know, people who couldn't get it took the horse the horse paste and were were better too. But the it's it's literally a crime that we couldn't get ivermectin filled for COVID when it worked. Speaker 22: Right. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Speaker 17: I ended up going to frontline doctors Yeah. And I got a prescription. I just did a telemedicine thing. They were the only ones that would prescribe it. The only ones in Florida that would because we lived in Florida. Yeah. Got it. That's where our fireman friend got it from. He got it from, frontline. In fact, he's the one that recommended it to me. He just go to frontline doctors. I'll get you a prescription of in case you have a, you know, a flare you you need it again. Speaker 5: So but I mean, I personally I personally get it from Virex because they they're brilliant. They just put the word pet in front of all their medication all their stuff so you can like, they just call it. And they're like pharmaceutical grade, human grade, but it's for your pet. It but it's human grade Yep. Because you want the best for your pet. And I love the, I went on there and I saw all the, the reviews, and it was like, you know, my dog had a runny nose, and I want the best for my dog, so I ordered them. But it's the same stuff it's the same stuff I would get from India. Right? Like, the ivermectin I get from India or here, it's just cheaper. Yeah. But, Speaker 17: Same Well, I mean, I can walk into any pharmacy and get it over the counter. I can just walk a block away and I've got other weapon in my hand. Exactly. Same in same in Mexico. You can do that. Yes. Yes. Exact all of Latin America, you can buy ivermectin over the counter. Speaker 1: Everywhere but here. Speaker 17: Everybody but everywhere but, US and Canada. And I don't know about Europe, but, I just know US and Canada. Oh, no. It's it's the and, you know, my my whole I'm I am Canadian. If you go when you go to Canada, good luck. They all think that I'm fucking crazy. Oops. Oops. Sorry. Oops. Sorry. They think I'm crazy. Speaker 5: And, yeah. I mean well and I think here, people I think people here are starting to really wake up to ivermectin because, so many people are taking it. So many people are taking ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and budesonide for many things. But, yeah, I mean, there's many sources to get it, e even cheap. But Yeah. You know, you have to get it. If you have if you if needed in a pinch, there's my free doctor dot com. There's docintheloop.com, doctor Bain. You know, he's in, I think, in 17 states now. And they work with compounding pharmacies because Yeah. You know, like, I won't even I won't even do business at I will pay more at a compounding pharmacy for stuff, even over the counter stuff just because I I don't wanna give Walgreens or CVS my business. Sure. Because if they had filled those prescriptions during when peep during the dark winter when they were killing so many people. Yeah. I would've had my ivermectin, and I never would've ended up in the hospital. I would've I would've I wouldn't have my my oxygen wouldn't have got to 77 while I was waiting for it to be, you know, delivered by mail. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 22: It's it's it's it yeah. That's true. Yeah. We can't go back to The States without bringing about 500 Speaker 6: because everybody wants to log out. Whole suitcase for a lot of friends. Are like, don't come unless you're working in hibernation. Yeah. Speaker 22: Case for our veterans are like, don't come unless you're with an Ivermectin. Yeah. Yeah. Right. One for them. Speaker 5: It's a it's a yeah. You could stay you could even stay with us, but you gotta bring Speaker 17: I know. Yeah. The the the disclaimer is, yeah, you can you can stay with us. Bring us ivermectin. Speaker 5: Right. Speaker 17: Oh, that's great. Anyway, alright. I'm out of here. I'm going to bed. Well, thank you. Alright. You too. Bye bye. Thank you. Speaker 1: Well, don't go just yet. We've got Deborah Mose, who's also been waiting very patiently for a while. How are you doing, Deborah? Speaker 5: Hey, Deborah. Speaker 1: I hope you didn't I hope we didn't put you to sleep, Deborah. If you're there, you're gonna take yourself off mute. Speaker 5: Deborah. Speaker 4: Deborah, can you hear me? In case you can't hear Chelsea or Gail, we're ready for you. You can take yourself off mute. Speaker 5: Deborah to the spaces, please. Deborah to the spaces. Speaker 1: Really good space tonight, though. I I thought we had a really good and engaging and robust conversation. Not a lot of people touched on why Fauci should I mean, we did. Every literally everything we talked about is why Fauci should not have a pardon. But, you know, what would be cool is to get people just saying that over and over and over again. I wonder if we could organize that, Gail, if we could get, like I mean, nobody not a single person ever submitted a testimonial at f f c t f dot org forward slash testimonials. But maybe we could get everyone to send in, like, a ten second video just saying no pardon for Fauci or if they wanna make it twenty seconds and and say why. Speaker 5: You know? I wonder yeah. And I I mean, I think people sometimes will write before they'll do a video, but I don't know. The videos are impactful, though. They are. They absolutely are. You know? Speaker 1: Which reminds me, if you missed it, go to our pinned tweet and and watch that ten minute video. I know we've all been in the space, so probably haven't listened to it. But it is it's something. And if there's 25 of these, I'm trying to make ten minute or less videos, and it is really hard to keep them down to, to just ten minutes because there are so many of these. But, you know, 25 times 10, it's gonna be a a few hour video once we put them all together. And, you know, I think it's gonna be amazing and eye raising. And it's been a really long time coming, hasn't it? Speaker 5: Yeah. It has. We've been talking about this for a long time. Do you know, just to illustrate how we got to the 25 commonalities and how we how we why we think it's a script that they're going I mean, the script. It started off as the script. Right? They're they all say the same thing and do the same thing and, you know, and it's not because that's how it is with COVID. You know? It's not that, you know, COVID makes doctors say these things. It's I don't care what the study show. It's because it's because this was a pandemic, because this was a crime against humanity, because they were told to say these things. They were directed to say these things, conditioned to say these things, and do these things. Speaker 1: And given permission to commit murder courtesy of the mainstream press. And we saw this from from, you know, CNN, MSNBC on day TV to Jimmy Kimmel and the late night hosts on late night TV, And this kind of oh, Stephen Colbert with the vaccine. I'm sure everyone's seen that. Oh, yeah. Just absolute just a fork in the eye to anyone who isn't completely brainwashed by this stuff, first of all. Really transparent and and cringey. But, also, all of that was to to say, oh, well, you know, if you're if you're not vaccinated, then good luck, Wheezy. Yeah. I'm right. Exactly. Giving them really giving the task at permission to not just kill people, but actually be proud of it and brag about it and say, yeah. Those those unvaccinated, I really gave that gave them what for today when I made sure they died. Speaker 5: Oh, and let's and let's let's take put it in its put little dose of reality here. They didn't it it didn't just go to people who like, they didn't just kill people who had COVID who were unvaccinated. This expanded to people who went to the hospital for freaking anything and and didn't have the COVID shot. I mean and and, you know, oh, denial of, even denial of treatments for for diseases or conditions people had or organ transplants. You're not giving children an organ transplant because they don't freaking have this I mean, you know, it it wasn't just, oh, you you got COVID and you didn't take the shot, therefore, we're not gonna, you know, we're gonna kill you. It was other things too. You know? People who had you know, there was a interview I did in Arizona with an where a 19 year old, he had, he had a a mini stroke and went to the hospital, and he was unvaccinated, and they killed him. Well, first of all, they tested him and tested him until he tested positive for COVID. You know? But even though he didn't have any symptoms, he was asymptomatic and gave him remdesivir and put him on a vent. But, he went in for, you know, a stroke. Right? So this isn't just I mean, they did this to Speaker 1: And and this is why we touched on this earlier, but it's it can't be understated. Do not get a test. Don't let your Yeah. If you have the sniffles, just assume it's COVID if you're concerned about it being COVID and take the appropriate measures. Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, because the the treatment the the pro the ideal treatment for flu, RSV, you know, pneumonia, COVID, it's all the same. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. Go to the flccc.net. They have the doses, the dosing information, and the time you should take it and how much you should take, and just print that out. It works. Budesonide, I I can't tell you how, how much how important it is to have a nebulizer. Scott Miller was on, he would tell you. I just got one. Doctor Bartlett was so on point with his budesonide. I would not be here if it wasn't for doctor Bartlett. You know, he had me doing one milligram of budesonide in the nebulizer every two hours, and my husband was able to titrate me down from 60 liters of oxygen. So, I mean well, he could only get me to 25. I had to survive on 25, but, you know, which is probably only what it really what I needed to begin with. But point being, I they budesonide works. It it works with, you know, every it's always been a treatment for pneumonia, but then COVID you know, they would tell people, well, COVID pneumonia is different. No. It's not. But, yes, I'd I there are so many people who who got better just with budesonide. I can remember doctor Bartlett telling us telling my husband, stop asking for ivermectin. They're never gonna give it to her in the hospital. Push for budesonide and, you know, high dose vitamins, those types of things that they can't really justify saying no to. And when they saw the budesonide was working, they started messing with the treatments, replacing it with albuterol or skipping it or whatever. I, after my husband took me out of there, stormed the ICU, took me out of there, and saved me. I talked to a woman, doctor Bartlett put us in touch, whose husband died two weeks after. Two weeks after I was in that hospital at the same hospital. When I spoke to her, she said that they told her they don't even have budesonide. They know damn well I survived because of budesonide. They knew damn well that I was getting better, and they were shocked. And that's why they they were messing with the budesonide. So yeah, I, yeah, so Speaker 1: budesonide works. Thank you so much, Gail. Because when we say be prepared, people might not know what that means. And it's Yeah. It's really important people were accusing us earlier of downplaying the severity of this virus. That is not actually something we are doing. We're saying don't ignore the virus like the the public health guidance was. Ignore it until you're you can't breathe and then go to ICU. We're saying treat prophylactically, treat early, treat often. They're very safe and and actually effective, medications and supplements that you can avail yourself of, keep in a cabinet. And then when you get those sniffles, Speaker 5: you know, talk to your doctor and you have those things on hand. Right. Because, of course, you know, have them on hand ahead of time. Have have them on you know, get them ahead of time. Make sure you have them. Be prepared, not scared. Like, like, of course, COVID is COVID, the it's it's a biological weapon. It's a it's, yeah, I mean, it's gain of function. They they've all but admitted it. Right? Like, that it comes from a lab. Speaker 1: They've admitted They've not only admitted it. They've they've forecast the the release date for a whole host of additional gain of function baddies. They're like they they're just brazen at this point. Maybe they're anticipating preemptive pardons for all of them. Speaker 5: Right. And I think doctor David Martin had said, you know, there's 63 or 68 that they have ready to go pathogens that they can release on the public. And they have many mechanisms to do it from, you know, to to to release it over crowds. Right? They've they've worked on this for I mean, come on. Biological warfare goes back to the medieval days, right, with, poisoning the water, but, or the well. It's where the expression comes from, actually. But so, yeah, so, like, they we know it's serious. We know it's serious and that raging lunatic or that I think he wasn't raging, but he wasn't he was an idiot that was on Cushion Poison. Speaker 1: Tact. Tactless. Tactless. Absolutely. I mean, that's just so ironic because it's so tactless to come into a a group of victims and tell them they don't know what they're talking about. Right. We don't know we don't know what we're talking about. Speaker 5: But yeah. So, like and I a matter of fact, we've called people out that have said it it was just you know, it's it that COVID is nothing because we're like, no. People got sick. Like, people got sick. It is a bioweapon for sure. Speaker 1: It is a And since you since you bring that up, there's someone in our chat right now going on and on about why are the intelligent people in the wonderful COVID humanity betrayal memory project space still talking about nonexistent viruses and mutating variants when over 200 health institutions failed to provide isolates dot dot dot. And this whole the virus hasn't been isolated thing is such a red herring. I am so sorry, Jamie, to have to tell you this, but it's an absolute red herring. Electron microscopes exist. You you can see these viruses under an electron microscope. They do actually exist. Then then I think there was some argument about, well, because it's gain of function, it's not it doesn't really exist in nature. Well, okay. I'll give you that. It certainly didn't exist in nature. But Speaker 5: it had to exist in nature. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Sorry. Go ahead. No. I was gonna say it it had it had to exist in nature in some form for it to be modified in a lab. For it wasn't ego. It wasn't created, like, in a it was it was it wasn't created synthetically from whole cloth. Right? Like, it it it did Speaker 1: it was it was They start with some viruses, and then they poke them and make them right. They make them more infectious and more deadly in some cases. Speaker 5: It's gain of function, Speaker 4: not synthetic remain. And my favorite one is when they say, oh, well, you know, people just went to the hospital, and it was really just the flu. Excuse me, but my husband and I had a flu in 2017. It was gone in seven days, and it was bad. We had chest condition. We were coughing. We were sick. We ran a fever, etcetera, etcetera. In 2020, within forty eight hours, the man's o two sats were down in the mid seventies I think at risk. And he and he was accessory breathing. He was in acute he was in acute respiratory distress. I think we know. This I mean, I hate it when they start doing that stuff. It was a real thing. It was data function, and it just it just incenses Speaker 5: me to hear people start that stuff. I can see why people I mean, I understand where the where the pattern comes from in that, but it because peep there are people who who got COVID who didn't, who didn't have that bizarre effect that I mean, 2021, what the fall and the 2021 and the 2022, I do think it was a different beast. Because I had COVID when it first came out. I didn't test, but I knew it, after I had worked the, Supertude Day election. And I, you know, came in contact with thousands of people. And I was like, you're not taking me to the hospital. They're killing their people are dying. I didn't know they were necessarily killing people, but it was a totally different different animal than in 2021. You know, and my grandson had had it in the 2021, and it was a totally different beast. But, you know, we gave him ivermectin, and and he was good. But but there was something bizarre about how it hit in in late twenty twenty twenty one. The whole thing didn't make sense. And Yeah. And everything everybody that we have interviewed, most of the people we've interviewed from 2021 in 2022, the 2021 and early twenty twenty two had been around a lot of vaccinated people, when when they got sick. And I I do think that it came from the shedding. Speaker 1: So I'm glad Laurie's still here to hear this. Yep. Laurie, it it I mean, most of most of this is due to that. I totally believe that. Yeah. I I I Speaker 5: the more I hear the more stories I hear from that time period, the more convinced I am that they that they spread it through the vaccinated. Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was actually released. The gain of function bug was kind of test released in some places in 2019. And then they they said, well, we have a proof of concept. Let's move forward with the whole op. And Yeah. And then and here we are. Speaker 5: And and what we see now a lot, and I'm just going by the calls I get, is vaccinating people going to the hospital, which with with what appears to me to be issues like confusion and, Speaker 1: Oh, this is so sad. We started documenting these cases in 2021 in 2021. And so we know, like, there's there's a lot of this going on. There's a lot of people coming on with what they're calling early onset dementia where they just start losing their minds immediately, almost immediately after getting these shots, and they never connect the dots. And I saw this play out in my own family, and and then they ended up killing my loved ones with, Yeah. Psychiatric what was it? Schizophrenic drugs Yeah. To control exit seeking behavior, which is just if you think about that, that is so sad. Speaker 6: It's it's pretty sad. Speaker 5: They're they're covering up the injury and the the vaccine injury and the deaths. I mean, and now they go to the hospital. They're like, you know, they have these issues, and they give them the old COVID test. This is why you guys need to stop testing to give them the COVID test. Oh, you they don't have symptoms for COVID, but they've got COVID, and then they give them remdesivir and they kill them. I like, we're we've we've seen that a lot, and I I personally this is my personal opinion from just from what I'm seeing. I think that they're covering up vaccine death and calling it COVID. We got hands up. Got a couple hands up. Yep. Daniel. Speaker 1: Daniel, thank you for your patience. How are you doing tonight? And then we'll get to you, Trivium. How are you, Daniel? Speaker 24: I'm good. Thanks. I had a a question. I'm listening to some of the things that you're saying and, like, some of the idea of of, you know, one nurse turning up the oxygen. Mhmm. You know what I mean? And then another nurse turning it down. Right? There's a a researcher in California, and I forget her name. I think she's at Berkeley, and she studies medical serial killers. Right. And, apparently, it's a much bigger problem than people realize because you have people in hospitals that are expected to die. Yeah. There's lots of death naturally, and you have access to all these interventions Yeah. And ways to kill them. You have IVs and there's so there's just a lot of vulnerability. I imagine during COVID, when you have lockdowns and you have people not allowed to talk to their family members, you've got, almost a level of hysteria Yeah. At some some points. I can imagine that if, you know, if I was a medical serial killer Yep. Working in a hospital during the peak of the hysteria would have been the best time ever to kill perhaps huge numbers of people. So Yep. Is there any current studies on the medical serial killers and the COVID, you know, disaster, or has any of your own, experience Speaker 5: do you have any kinda any thoughts or, you know, any any input on that? I think they were all yeah. I mean, I think they were a lot of them were medical serial killers. That's I always I always say I feel like I escaped serial killers. I think they're so one of the things that's difficult in all of the tracking of these people is the number of FEMA and travel nurses and doctors that that moved about the country during during COVID. And it wasn't because the hospitals didn't have enough staff because they were actually they had actually laid off a lot of their staff because they weren't doing the average normal, you know, what do they call them, elective type things. Right? So there were a lot of nurses and doctors Speaker 1: that They canceled nonelective things too. They canceled people's cancer surgeries, and people died as a result of that too. Speaker 5: Right. And so so they laid off all these nurses and doctors temporarily, and then they brought in these they brought in travel nurses, FEMA nurses, paid them big dollars to travel and go to different places. And how, I mean, how easy would it be to be a killer nurse if you're in this city for two weeks, in this state for another two weeks? And then it's even more complicated because of operation Nightingale where you have the 20,000 plus fake nurses who purchase their transcripts and purchase their degrees, got and then went to, like, New York where it's easy to get licensed and then got licensed in other states. And so and and, like, I think 90% of those were foreigners who got a visa along with they were all from, like, Middle East, Africa. And, many of them, rather than being indicted, since those nine schools in Florida were busted, instead of being indicted, they just left the country. But some of them have been some of them have been indicted across the 12 states or whatever that they existed. So it's it's really hard to, like, track that, but I I would be I think you make a really great point, and I I would bet anything that there are some that there are a lot of serial killers serial medical killers. They, like, that have that god complex, right, that works in the hospitals on the COVID on the COVID units. And then I I think that there are others that just worked head down, didn't wanna make waves, just wanted to keep their job. And then there there are there are the few the few that we know of that did very heroic things, like snuck patients ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine Speaker 1: or Speaker 5: took a patient to the exit and had their family pick them up. Right? Speaker 1: People really need to appreciate the full horror movie scope of this. You have doctors who realize that the protocols that they're mandated to give the patients are killing people, and they are literally sneaking them drugs, sneaking them the treatments that they know will work at at risk for their career and their livelihood. Speaker 5: If you can fathom that. Sorry, Gail. No. No. You're right. And and then take it even further. You know, like, the one woman who the the one nurse who said, who told the doctor what the doctor was gonna give the woman remdesivir, and the woman said the nurse said, but, doctor, she has five children at home. And he canceled the remdesivir. Speaker 1: They they know it was gonna kill her. Speaker 5: I mean, they know it was gonna kill her. Right? So but but then, you know, when that story was was told, it was like, you know, that nurse was heroic. But on the other hand, that nurse and that doctor team, how many have they killed? So, like, are they serial killers? I would say yes. I I would say yes. If you're a nurse or a doctor and you know that these drugs were killing people and you continued to give them and you you're not coming forward as a whistleblower, yeah, you're you're a serial killer. Right? Because you killed lots of people. Speaker 1: That's what is And making that making that exception, sparing that one person, you you've basically made yourself God. Yeah. You're fine now. Determining who lives and dies, and that's not anyone's role. Speaker 5: And they did that. They did that to, you know, when you look at the how they handled elderly and and handicapped kids. Right? Like Down syndrome. Right? They they played god. They they took this opportunity during COVID to, to call the herd, if you will. And and Daniel makes a good point about because I mean, we know this because because of the isolation. I always say they isolated because they didn't want witnesses and they didn't want anybody interfering with their plan to kill you. Speaker 1: That certainly what it felt like. In one of the clips in the isolation video that I I penned earlier, it's a woman saying that, basically, she she views this as a silent holocaust because people were isolated, so they were alone so nobody could hear their cries and their screams. Speaker 5: No. Yeah. Right. Exactly. That yeah. That yeah. And that that hits home for me because the isolation was very difficult. Very difficult. I I would see the sun come up, and I would I would thank god that I lived another day. I didn't know how I was gonna get out of there. I didn't know I I never feared dying of COVID, not once. I feared being murdered. That that that if I and I told my family that. Like, I told the police that, you know, that they were going to murder me. I wasn't gonna die of COVID. They would they they were going to murder me. Speaker 1: And this is a commonality because so many people felt that way Yeah. Speaker 5: That, like It was that way. They were doing that to people. Speaker 4: They made it obvious because they didn't they didn't expect you. Speaker 5: You know, they increase the oxygen. They you can't get like, you can't get out on your own, and they don't let your family in. So what the hell are you they know you can't get out. And the ones that did the ones that did get out of bed and tried to get out, they shot up with Ativan and strapped to a bed and gave him the protocol and killed him anyways. It's freaking insane. People people people like that that troll that was on earlier do not understand the the magnitude of what people people did. And it wasn't your your nurse that that works at the local doctor's office. She probably didn't even have a job during this time. Like, she was from or she was working. Like, I can't like, we hear from nurses who are like, yeah. I took good care. You know, I I got all my patients were living, so they moved me to another, you know, another part of the hospital. Or, you know, Speaker 1: I don't you know? So The the ones that get me are where the the patient is getting better so the doctors know something is wrong, and they start quizzing the the family members and checking their bags and stuff because they know because the patient's getting better, something something's amiss. Like, that's kind of a dead giveaway. Speaker 5: Yeah. Because the patient is getting better. That's crazy. See, now I'm gonna have to look I'm gonna have to look into I'm Daniel's got me thinking about how do we because I've always said that there were serial kill I I think there's three classifications of medical workers. Hey, Daniel. Can if you can you DM me the, the woman you're talking about that does the studies about medical serial killers? If she's I wanna read read up on that. Speaker 1: I think what you were just talking about really dovetails nicely with the question Trivium wanted to ask. So, Trivium, go ahead and then Heidi. And then we'll be wrapping it up, guys. Go ahead, Trivium. Speaker 25: Yes. My my question had to do with people's thoughts on how the dehumanization could be so large and so broad in an industry, and pretty much that was answered with the last call. I would or the, yeah, the last question and then everybody's comments. But as I was listening, I was thinking Mass Milgram experiment, and then I thought of the corporation. There's a documentary called The Corporation on YouTube, which is very good, to look at, and it compares the corporate structure with the clinical definition of psychopathy. And so both of those probably relate. But what you guys are describing is it's crazy, but I I know it's true, you know, and that's that's scary. That's really scary, and nobody's admitting it. And it comes it comes back to the incentives. Speaker 20: It's like so It goes Yeah. It goes much further than that. Speaker 6: This goes back better than this. This goes back, Speaker 26: around about fifty years. But oops. Oops. Sorry. Nobody really wants to get in that far. So I think a really good example of how this was and that it was so widespread is, the so called opioid crisis that, was pretty much a precursor to this. That was coming to a head right. That was coming to a head in the years before pandemic hit. And what happened with that is that, you know, you've got people abusing opiates, and, you know, they're in chronic pain. They're cancer patients. They've just got out of surgery, so on and so forth. And they changed all the rules and the laws and started making examples out of doctors that started prescribing even a little bit too much of it. And so what they did in doing so was across the entire medical field, They made all these doctors amenable to watching their patients suffer and die, or not die in this case, but suffer because they had to follow the rules. So that that is it's such a simple thing. And the ones that didn't go with that, they lost licenses. They were made examples of. And, you know, I mean, even the underlying justification for that, which was the proliferation of these street drugs was dishonest at its core anyways. Speaker 5: But Yeah. Speaker 26: That just Speaker 5: That's all. There's a whole lawsuit about that now. Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, that's just a whole how deep it goes. Speaker 1: Yep. They use they use that to immunize doctors against the suffering of their patients. There's a psychological exploit that you ask if you want to ask for a big favor, you ask for a little favor first. You ask for something small that someone's sure to give you, and then that will make them more amenable to giving you the big ask. And and that's really what they did with that. Speaker 5: Yeah. And wouldn't you well, and, also, you you have to remember that they brought in all these doctors from countries that the government tells them on a regular basis how to treat their patients. So they're already I mean, they would think nothing of the government saying use this treatment for this, this treatment for that. They're you know, they don't think anymore. They're just like little robots. Speaker 6: Yep. Speaker 1: Heidi has her hand up, and then we'll go to Kat, and then we'll go to doing, Speaker 8: surgeries without, without an not anesthesia, without, opioids. They're sending patients home, cancer patients, amputation patient patients, mastectomy and hysterectomy patients home without any opioids whatsoever. Speaker 1: Oh, and there was just this big thing, that insurance Speaker 8: Yeah. The anesthesia. Yeah. Yeah. That's where it was going next. Right. Now they're not gonna do anesthesia after six hours. Speaker 1: Well, they were saying that. They had put that forward. The insurance companies had said, we're not gonna cover your opiates through if your surgery goes over this long. And then Oh my gosh. A assassination happened of the health care CEO, and then they immediately rolled that back. So people are like, wait. Violence works? I mean, in so many means. No endorsement of violence, obviously. But Well, that was anesthesia, Speaker 8: Chelsea, not opioid. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. It was six hours of surgery. The after six hours of surgery, the insurance company was cutting you off on reimbursement for for the anesthesiologist. So after six hours, basically, the anesthesiologist goes home either goes home or you pay him out of pocket, and then if you don't have money to pay him out of pocket, he goes home and you have to bite a rope. Speaker 5: And yeah. Or a leather strap or something. That's crazy. That's freaking crazy. That's unethical. I mean, it's just that's it's crazy. Speaker 4: We haven't really got to know. Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is the same slow decline as, like, customer service and everything else. Like, we just continue to lower our standards of the what we'll accept, what we'll tolerate as permissible to the point they're literally killing our loved ones. And and some people still aren't even aware of it, and other people are like, well, what are you gonna do? And then there's us. Speaker 5: Yeah. You you're gonna we gotta stop them from kill so, like, and and it and it what kills me is they, not the hospital because I escaped. But what kills me sorry. Oh, you weren't is, the they they will give these drugs to COVID patients not administered in a surgical setting. They'll just pump them up with propofol and fentanyl and all this shit. Oh, that freaking kills me. They're Speaker 1: sending people home from surgery without any any painkillers at all. And then there's a dump of people who come to the the ER with a respiratory infection full of opiates. Like, what? The like, seriously, shouldn't the disconnect really dawn Speaker 5: on the doctors? Like, wait. What am I what the hell am I doing with my life? Well, it didn't dawn on people like that troll that was on here. Like, I mean, but, yeah, like, it should dawn on them. Right? Like, oh, we shouldn't give somebody with a breathing with pneumonia, fentanyl. Like, that might cause like, it's insane. Speaker 1: Well, how does that sound to be on them? Keep them still while they're on the vent. Speaker 8: It's the first don't end them, you guys. They know. They know. They know. They know. And they don't care. You know why? Because they incentivize by watching their fellow men. Do you know how many I hang out in the opioid anti, in the pro opioid fight, advocacy groups and with, Claudia Morandi and Bev Shechtman. And I'll tell you what, there are you guys don't have any idea how many doctors are sitting in prison. Not jail. Prison. They've been sentenced to for their lives into prison sentences because they prescribed opioids. They went against the government, the DEA, who is in your hospital room with you, in that little in that little exam room with you. All the time, the DEA is in there with you, monitoring everything that doctor's doing, and that doctor knows that if he prescribes you opioids, he's going to jail. He could end up like his fellow his fellow doctors who stood up and said, no. This is not in your patient's best interest. This is what we're doing for the patient. We are giving that we are managing that patient's pain because that patient could stroke out. That patient could could could become suicidal. That patient needs that patient's blood pressure could go through the roof if we don't control his pain, and they're not doing it because the DEA is watching the whole time, and the CDC is watching. I can't remember the name of the doctor who's overlooking this. I think it's, starts with k something. Kolodny. It's Kolodny. It's Andrew Kolodny. He's a he's another Anthony Fauci, Peter Hotez murderer. And he is the one that is making sure that the DEA and the CDC are all lining up to ensure that nobody's going home with opioids from surgery. Well I just read a whole story about somebody who went home with an amputated leg with no opioids. Speaker 1: Oh, that's horrendous. That's very But if if Joe Biden can be doling out preemptive retroactive blanket pardons for anyone who helped him pull off the the sham of the last four years, then I think that, you know, Trump should just go wild with his pardon power and and all of those doctors that you just mentioned that are are doing time for just trying to treat their own patients. And and anyone else who's been in this fight and lost their license. Or some doctors were even locked up. Some doctors were even institutionalized for treating their patients. All of those people should be acknowledged and and given full retroactive blanket Speaker 6: credit card. Speaker 5: I'm just gonna submit my own name for a blanket card and not because I've ever done anything wrong, but, you know, I mean, it was my twenties. I don't 100% remember. So, like, could you give me a pardon from Speaker 1: You were such a bad kid. Yeah. Speaker 5: If he can give me a a pardon from 1984 onward, like, into up until 2036, maybe, I would appreciate it. Because I don't know. You know? You don't you never know. I might run a red light or need something to it's crazy. You never know. You never know. You never you never know when you might have to pull the old pardon out of the pocket Speaker 6: out of your pocket. Speaker 5: The old get out of jail free card. Speaker 25: Does the pardon cover when they frame you? Speaker 5: I hope so. That's what I that's what I'm counting on. Speaker 1: And if you find these Fauci These Speaker 8: yeah. These opioid doctors are all sitting in prison and have been framed. Crazy. Speaker 5: I mean, that is so crazy. Speaker 1: So Meanwhile, Fauci is walking free. Speaker 5: I know. Speaker 1: And if he gets that pardon, I swear we're gonna have issues. My heart just sank when I heard that. Like, we've been fighting for justice and accountability for four years. That's gonna feel really empty if he can't be up there with the rest of them facing that. Speaker 8: And the AIDS victims have been fighting since the eighties. That's correct. MECFS victims, me and the rest of the chronic fatigue syndrome myalgic encephalomyelitis victims who have been, you know, absolutely disappeared and depersoned because we were cut off from the AIDS groups. We've been fighting since, you know, the AIDS the AIDS crisis, which is Fauci's baby. I'm so sorry we didn't hear you sooner. Speaker 20: There is there is one consideration. A pardon can prevent a person from being convicted or being punished, but I don't think that it actually prevents them from standing trial per se. And that is one half of what is so important about even even if it could never end in federal charges, I mean, it can always still end in state charges, but I think it's so important to get him on the record with everything that he actually did. Right. They should be able to investigate and put him on trial even if they can't convict him. Speaker 5: Even at a federal level, they could at a state level. But But he can't plead the fifth then because Right. They could deposition him. Back to Yeah. They could deposition him even in a civil thing, and and he can't claim the fifth because he's got that pardon. I mean, if that Speaker 1: sorry. And then he said If that were the only way that we get the full truth of everything that happened, if if Fauci has to get pardoned to feel free enough to go on on trial and and give a full accounting, a full reckoning of who ordered him to do what when, and how he carried it out, and who was affected, and everything else. Would that be worth it to anyone in this room? Would that be a fair trade, a full accounting for his freedom? Speaker 5: I mean, from a from a big picture perspective, it it would be to me because I think when once people start talking and testifying without their with when they can't plead the fifth, other crimes can be discovered that are not covered under that pardon. Right? So I I think you could I think you could lead to a conviction anyways by getting or you could lead to the conviction of others. I don't I mean, if he's pardoned, I I don't I'd be I'd be surprised if he was pardoned. There'd be a tricky pardon, but I I I don't think any of those pardons, blanket pardons, would make them untouchable. Speaker 1: Not for the not for the the means and breadth of what they've done. Like, the scope of what they've done with the from the gain of function, research with our tax dollars to create these abominations, to their release, to their, oh, let's just fax a blueprint of the spike and inject it into everyone within a few days. Yeah. Like, all of this is just I mean, it's so horrendous. And then the propaganda campaigns to to separate families and and, dehumanize the unvaxxed and all of all of the things. It it's so it's such a huge betrayal of humanity, which, you know, I said the thing. It's it's humanity betrayal. And, and it's I don't think there's any you can't excuse any of that. You can't pardon that. Speaker 5: No. No. I mean, there's there's there's things that and and you can't it can't just be super broad or it would be challenged. Right? So Speaker 1: well Well, I mean, Hunter's pardon is pretty darn broad. It it it is, but it Speaker 5: it it covers a time period, which makes me makes me go, wow. What did he do in 2014? Right? And we all know. Oh, Burisma. Yeah. Burisma. That's right. But it's you know, I mean, I I think I I think all these pardons that they're talking about, I I just I don't think they'll cover it all. I think they'll, I think they'll miss something either it's it's impossible to be broad and not miss something that you could Speaker 3: prosecute for. Right? I mean, Speaker 5: it'd be very difficult. Caribbean has to abandon. Because they've committed so many because they've committed so many crimes because one crime led to another crime, which led to another crime. Right? Speaker 1: So But they're so altruistic, and they wanted to do this without causing any suffering. So Speaker 5: I know. For them. Speaker 3: Oh, even the peaceful and civil, Speaker 8: depopulation agenda? Speaker 5: Right. Yeah. Basically. Right. They it's it's for the greater good. What's that movie? Swan of the dead? Greater good. Speaker 7: Yeah. Just listening to this is unbelievable. Like, Gail's story, it just I can't wrap my mind around how malicious and intent they did these protocols, and they actually wanna kill people. I mean, because when this happened to my dad, I it was after the lockdowns, and I thought the whole COVID hysteria had kind of died down. Think again. And, I mean, it's not as big as what they were doing initially, but I think they're still doing it here and there. They are. They're all just Yeah. Absolutely are. And my dad was he was just a low hanging fruit. I mean, he had a health you know, some health issues. I mean, nothing he couldn't live with, but, I mean, the way it went down was so suspicious. And then when I found the group, I put together the commonalities you were reading, and it was like, oh my gosh. I mean, it it woke up everything. I was wondering why didn't they feed them? And they said, oh, we can't give them liquid. And it all made sense. Everything, the the resting of the lungs, we're gonna turn up the high flow and it'll help his lungs. Yeah. I mean, everything everything woke me up. I mean, just hearing the story, but it's just incredible that they could get that many doctors to carry this out. I mean, or is it just small percentage or you know, it's just Speaker 1: it's so evil. And it's amazing what they can do with those dangling carrots with those little incentives. Really, it was all done by incentives, and just they do the same thing with us. They they do it by conveniences. They would enslave us all with our own conveniences. Speaker 5: And my you know, my husband just piggybacking on what Heidi said. My husband says this all the time when he's talking about our story is for him, not for him as a former nurse, as a former, you know, biological weapons officer in the military, nothing made sense. Every time he spoke to the doctors, every time he spoke to me, nothing made nothing they told him made sense, and that's where he had to, like that that's what what really drove him. I mean, nothing made sense from the start of the pandemic, actually. I can remember the first couple days where he was like, no. Viruses don't act like this. Bio biological weapons do. Doesn't make sense. This doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. And then when I was in the hospital, nothing made sense. He questioned everything on his own. So I so I think, you know, there's something to be said there. Like, it it it it nothing when nothing makes sense, nothing makes sense. Okay. So, who had their hand up? Speaker 25: Oh, I got gonna take Trivium. Keep it quick. Wait. We're we're better at that. Very, very quick. I just wanted to say pardons are for people that have been convicted of something. Fauci hasn't even been charged with anything. You you can't pardon somebody for future crimes they might be charged with. Well, you can't. Speaker 5: You get you you it's but it's happened quite a bit in The United States. I mean, they've pardoned, I mean, Jimmy Carter pardoned all of the draft dodgers that weren't charged with anything. It's actually happened quite a bit in the history of America where they pardon people kind of preemptively. But Speaker 1: Right. And whenever anybody says you can't do that in The United States Of America, I look I look back over the last five years, and I have a better word. Yeah. Speaker 25: So so they must they must define the crimes, though. I mean, he's gotta say, okay. I'm gonna pardon you for a, b, c, and d. It's not like a blanket pardon. Speaker 1: Right? No. He just gave a complete blanket pardon to his own son for anything he may or may not have done over the last Speaker 5: Twenty fourteen. 11. Yeah. Eleven years. Right? Twenty fourteen. Yeah. You can. Speaker 1: I mean, they have they they're just rubbing it in our faces. They said they were afraid Trump would be a king, but they're acting like despots, pardoning themselves for their own crimes, lying to our face for literally all of this time about everything from having been legitimately elected to safe and effective. You won't get sick if you get these vaccines. And now they're gonna pardon themselves on the way out the door. And I think we'll find a way around that because, I mean, it's anti American. It's anti American. We're not gonna stand for this. Speaker 5: Yeah. I I think we'll find a way around it. Speaker 7: And where did I hate to ask. I didn't wanna interrupt, but where did Gail find that ivermectin? Speaker 5: Is it from a you said a pet supply? No. No. No. They're, they're a bunch of doctors in Florida. It's Verix Health, actually. Speaker 7: Verix. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 7: I was just curious, because I had ordered some from India. Actually stocked up a little bit for who knows what's going to come. But I mean, I I order from in the Speaker 5: you're not really supposed to, but I order, you know, hydroxychloroquine and stuff from there and from a few sources because you can't I keep telling them you need hydroxychloroquine for pets. They're like, well, yeah, I mean, I don't think they can pull that one off. Fenbendazole and doxycycline and I mean, I think you guys fancy. Speaker 1: Ain't you guys fancy? I've got a closet full of horse paste from Amazon, Speaker 7: and, and that does me just fine. But it's also it's Yeah. I got I got my horse face too. I just bought one from Tractor Supply. Speaker 5: If you do if you do a search for petmectin, you'll you'll see the website. It it's like twelve milligrams. It's the same stuff you get from India. It's 6 I think $69 for 50 of them. And it I think they it ships from Florida. So I I get it pretty quick. I I don't I don't like to risk ordering from India Speaker 1: unless I have to. That can be sketchy. Speaker 5: Yeah. And so I I tried to and I I tried to do things locally, but, but they they haven't been able to to stop them from selling these three medications without a prescription over the counter or, you know, through mail because they can't they can't have it both ways. They can't say ivermectins for animals and then complain that a place sells human grade, pharmaceutical grade, ivermectin for animals. Like, I mean because they, you know, the horse paste does have some impurities in it. I, you know, I can't I not that I haven't you know, my daughter put And it tastes like apples. And it tastes like apples. Right? Like like but, you know, I didn't wanna have you know, like, I I I was worried I'd get a hankering for hay and, you know, if I took the horse space. But you don't you don't have a hankering for hay, do you? Speaker 1: No. Believe me, if I could afford to actually consult a friendly position and and be stocked up like y'all are, I I would. But but this works in a sense. And, you know, friends help out once in a while, which is nice. Speaker 5: There's and there's a formula for it. Right? So but it it it because it is it's outrageously expensive if you are getting a prescription for it and you're not prepared with it and you're like, when I like, 10 pills for me were, $75 getting it filled at the you know what? Speaker 1: Right. It was pennies, and then we created all this demand, and now it's, like, expensive. Speaker 7: Because it'll save your life. It was it was pretty cheap, the Indian company. I can't think of the name of it. Dayandnight, I think,.com. Speaker 5: But Was it All Day All Day Chemists? Speaker 7: I'm I think they're just called dayandnight.com or something like that. Yeah. It's it's out of Canada, and they ship it from India. But I think I got, like, I think I've got about 30 pills for 50, maybe $50 because I didn't I didn't wanna spend a lot either, but they're just a low milligram. And then I've got several horse paste. Speaker 5: I grab one now and then. Because it's because it's based on weight. Right? So you have to make sure, like, you get that's that's one of the problems. And I pinned Speaker 1: I pinned our old infographic with the the dosing. Well, the those are the old, like, the original dosing, protocol, Speaker 5: but it gives you a rough idea. Yeah. I mean, it's it's convert your weight. When if you're sick, it's convert your your pounds to kilograms and then times point zero six. If you're not sick, but you're taking it prophylactically, then you can times it by point two. Right? You you still have to convert your weight to kilograms. So it's a lot of math. It's a lot of math. So I just Yeah. There's a chart on flccc.net that has pounds, what the kilograms how how much you are in kilograms, and then the calculate it's a it's a nice little chart. I have it printed out so that when people call me and say how much ivermectin how much do you weigh? If it's a woman I'm talking to and she's telling me her weight, I gotta add 20 pounds because she's probably lying. And then Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Like Only 20? Speaker 5: If it's a guy, I'm like, yeah. He probably doesn't know. Let me ask his wife. You know, I'm just kidding. That's so funny because it's true. It is true. This was a good spaces. So, Yeah. You've been just absolutely full of beans tonight. I love it. Me? I'm just yeah. I get sometimes, I I get fired up a little bit. I'm a I'm a little fired up. Just a little bit. Speaker 7: I've enjoyed listening. I just I love you, girls. And guys here, I've I've enjoyed listening to everybody. The the the, also another thing that works good, I've heard I haven't tried personally for COVID was the, chlorine dioxide. And I was telling Sherry about it that I found, a website called the universal antidote. And I was just experimenting with it because our dog got really sick about a month ago, and my little pest control, termite guy came over and he said he he was really awake to everything. And I was telling him about the group and what happened with my dad. And he, you know, he watches Alex, and he's a character, but he him and his wife said, have you ever heard of chlorine dioxide? And they said it'll it cured them of COVID. Both of them had COVID, and they said try it for your dog. And we thought our dog was dying, and she just wasn't walking. She's, like, a lab a 100 pound lab, ham mix, but she just wasn't doing anything, and we weren't sure if not it was heart failure. But we started giving her just a little light dose of it, and she's gradually I mean, it's unbelievable. She started barking again. She's out taking going up the steps, and she couldn't even move her legs. We were, like, carrying her, and we literally said her prayers for her. And we're telling her goodbye. Aw. Talking about burying her. So it's I mean, it's I I don't know how long she has, but it's definitely got her going again and eating really good. I mean, her appetite came back. Yeah. So it's definitely cleared. There was some kind of blockage we're thinking, but we never took her to the vet because we're scared of the vet. And it's like everybody here after, we have all these problems with doctors and vets. And I've used it, and I've used it on my dog's wounds. Speaker 5: And I I I just had somebody use it that was sick and said it was it was good. I you know, I'm not a faithful user of it, but may but, I mean, there's a lot of things that there there's a whole protocol on the flccc.net. I do try to, like, drive people there and then you know? But be prepared ahead of time. You do not want to be unprepared. I part of the reason I'm so full of piss and vinegar tonight is because of how many people have called me this week, you know, that that are sick. And on the like, why are you taking COVID tests? Right. And I'm like, stop taking the test. Some people didn't take the test. Some people did. And then, you know but like I said, you know, seven people called me this week. Only one person was prepared. So I need everybody intheloop.com, Speaker 1: myfreedoctor.com, or Yeah. Find find a local doctor you can trust. They are few and far between, but they are out there. And a good way to to, you know, suss them out is call and ask about their vaccine policy. Yep. And get the, Speaker 5: yeah, exactly. And get get go and look at everything that you need that you know, like, the vitamins that you need, the supplements that you need, and make sure you have them and you're taking them. I I'm I'm at the point I take this is why I take hydroxychloroquine every week and ivermectin with it every other week. On a Sunday. I take a every Sunday, I take hydroxychloroquine. Every other Sunday, I add ivermectin. That's what I do. And I take the vitamins and the supplements every day, every single day. That was something that was something Scott Miller had, you know, recommended and, you know, I well, okay. When I say I take the supplements every day, I just looked at my container and the grandkids were over, and I didn't take it the last two days. So I'm a liar. But I'm just gonna have I was just gonna grab it and, you know, So Really? But I think it is If you're gonna take hydroxychloroquine Speaker 8: a lot, be sure to have somebody monitoring your eyes. Okay? That's just a a warning. Read about it, research it, and find out why I say that. It hurt my eyes pretty bad. Did it? Did it break it? Speaker 5: I gotta look at yeah. Gotta look at that. Yeah. Speaker 8: Yeah. Read it. Read about it and find out before you, you know, get too far into taking hydroxychloroquine for a long time. Speaker 1: And, of course, always talk to a trusted doctor before you take any anything you've, heard in our space Speaker 5: to heart. Yeah. Everybody should. Everybody should. I don't I don't only because I haven't trusted a doctor since they tried to kill me. No. I talk to doctor Bain often. I'm afraid that closing this out has become imminent as the phone is now at 1%. Speaker 1: So I Alright, guys. To thank you all for coming. I think it's been a really great space. I pinned the link if you'd like to keep the conversation going. Go to ffctf.org. Fill out the short intake. Join our signal groups where we are constantly collaborating on all of these things and more. What am I missing, Gail? Document your story with us at chbmp.org. Even if you've told us your story tonight, it's important you document it as chbmp.org. Also, between project.org Speaker 5: and get it on the record. What was that, Gail? And and do your interview. Like, you documented it and you schedule your interview, and you do an interview with one of our interviewers, and share the stories. Yeah. And if you if you share the space. It's If you've documented your story with us and Lost you. But if you documented your story Speaker 1: and you didn't Sorry. I had to come back to the computer. The phone died. If you have documented your story with us, and you haven't done that interview component, please email us at email at c h b m p dot org. That will come to Gail and I, and we can be sure you get your interview booked and scheduled and get that on the record. Because we can't publish your story, or we won't at this point publish your story without that interview component. So please follow-up with that. Speaker 5: Okay. My dog started huffing every time we speak, so he's really upset that we've gone this long. Yes. So is Adam. Speaker 4: I guess he's a good cuter ass. Bella feels you. Bella feels you. And Alright. Well My poor dog has, gone to sleep with the couch because he's worn out. So Speaker 6: Yeah. Speaker 5: My dog literally just Chelsea started speaking again, and my dog went, He's like, no. No. Stop. Yep. So Please. We'll see you guys next week. I have to send, Speaker 1: some of Miriam's things to the nest. Check those out. Thank you so much, Miriam, for helping cohost. Thank you so much, Gail. Thank you all for coming. Have a great night. Have a great week. We'll see you on the Monday support group and again next week and every Saturday night at 8PM eastern. Speaker 5: Good night. Good Speaker 6: night.